Dynatech SuperMaxx Long Tube Headers in stock now!

[PFYC]

Our shipment of Dynatech SuperMaxx Long Tube Headers has arrived at our Kansas warehouse. Orders placed by 2pm EST Tuesday-Friday ship same day (noon EST Mondays).

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See how close you are to a nice, shiny new set of Dynatech long tube headers? Merry Christmas. :cool:

Click here for your set of Dynatech Long Tube Headers (http://www.pfyc.com/store/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=PFYC&Product_Code=GT5007&Product_Count=0&Category_Code=GTEXH).

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Mike Lewis
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[nikivee]

$1200 for headers! That's crazy. Why are headers for GTO's so damn expensive?

[gotzaGTO]

maybe cause they come with the hi flow cats already atached?

[PFYC]

I understand your frustration. I’m not the manufacturer so my guesses are only speculation. I don’t think there is any one reason but the combination of all of the reason below contribute to higher costs for these headers.

1. Small, limited market. Only so many cars on the road.
2. New to market. Companies always try to recover development costs early on.
3. Steel prices. This year steel prices have gone through the roof, everything steel has gone up.
4. Stainless vs mild steel or aluminized. From what I’ve heard, stainless has gone up even more than mild steel or aluminized.
5. Made in USA quality. Many of the larger header manufacturers have sent their manufacturing oversees to Taiwan and China. The Dynatech and Stainless Works are made in the USA.
6. Cats included. This drives the cost up as well.
7. Limited competition in the marketplace.

For what its worth, both the Stainless Works and the Dynatech are top quality. We have not had a single customer complain about the price once they’ve received the product. I think most on this forum who purchased them will say they are glad they did and would do it again in a heartbeat although I’m also sure all of them would say they would have rather paid less. :)

I’m glad companies are making stuff for the GTO. At least we have the choice of whether to buy it or not.

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Mike Lewis
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[Rob]

Yes, the days of getting $60 Black Jack headers are sadly over...

[nikivee]

Yes, the days of getting $60 Black Jack headers are sadly over...

I don't expect $60 buck headers, but $450 to 600 would be reasonable. I paid $529 for a good set of headers for my 67 GTO by Indian Adventures.

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[DevilYellow]

Dynatech is another top notch company, their Hummer, C5, C6, F-body header systems always are that expensive if not a little more.

[Rob]

I don't expect $60 buck headers, but $450 to 600 would be reasonable. I paid $529 for a good set of headers for my 67 GTO by Indian Adventures.

http://imagescommerce.bcentral.com/merchantfiles/4 716958/40065.jpgThat is probably what mild steel headers will cost, more than likely. And probably without cats.

My Dynatechs are beautiful looking headers. They looked like they were polished before installing them. 304 Stainless I believe. And with some nice flowing cats. Very well thought out system. I got one of the first batch so mine hit a heat shield bolt on the driver's side. That is going to be taken care of very soon.

[PFYC]

I don't expect $60 buck headers, but $450 to 600 would be reasonable. I paid $529 for a good set of headers for my 67 GTO by Indian Adventures.
There are your differences. I'll note comparisons above here.

1. 4 model years vs one. More on the road means a larger market for them.
2. Not new to market. Development costs recovered many years ago.
3. Probably not relevant, their steel prices have gone up as much as anyones.
4. Don't know if those are stainless or not, they don't say on their web site.
5. Don't know where they're made, could be oversees, maybe not.
6. No cat. There's about $250-$300 right there.
7. Plenty of competition in the marketplace for many years.

My guess (again speculation) is that when these first came out, they were pretty pricey for their day. Over time, the price has come down relative to inflation. You'll see the same happen with today's new headers over the course of a few years as development costs are recovered, the market increases and competition increases.

As DevilYellow pointed out, the Dynatech GTO headers are actually the lowest priced headers out of the ones he listed with the exception of the F-Body headers which are priced the same as the GTO I believe.

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Mike Lewis
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[DevilYellow]

Yup, you get what you pay for. Kooks, Dynatech, SW are great header companies... when you see hooker/flowtech and others get into the gain you will see more competitive prices but quality go down with the price.

[slick50]

$1200 for headers! That's crazy. Why are headers for GTO's so damn expensive?

Back in 1997, I paid $1200.00 for a set of Grotyohann long tubes & Random Tech HP cats. The application was for a 96 Impala SS. So almost 8 years later the price is the same. Can't whine about that. Can whine that I don't have $1200.00 to do it again.

slick50

[dozlert]

The company that bought Grotyohann out and is now www.provenperformanceconcepts.com. Gordon was looking for a GTO to test build a set of headers on but my GTO is still in Louisiana. I am still overseas so I passed that potato to bioinformaticus. Not sure if they ever made him a set of headers.

[GOAT]

What kinda hp/tq increase are we talking about w/ the SuperMaxxs? I would think alot for $1200...

[Helldrives]

Do they have a CARB number for us in Cali?

[DGOAT]

Isn't SLP comming out with LTs pretty soon? I heard you can get them with or without cats and with or with out a ceramic coating.

[PFYC]

What kinda hp/tq increase are we talking about w/ the SuperMaxxs? I would think alot for $1200...
All of the LT's for the GTO will be roughly the same hp/tq numbers. I won't quote figures since I haven't personally dynoed them but I think you'll find posts on here that range between 35-40hp and 40-50lb-ft of torque or so.
Do they have a CARB number for us in Cali?
No, you won't find LT's that do since the cats must be relocated.
Isn't SLP comming out with LTs pretty soon? I heard you can get them with or without headers and with or with out a ceramic coating.
I'm not sure when SLP will come out with LTs but considering the quality and performance of what is available now, I personally don't see any reason to wait for SLP to release theirs. You can't go wrong with either selection that is available now.

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Mike Lewis
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[Timonator]

Will the stailess steel stay corrosion free like ceramic coated headers?And what size are the primary tubes on these headers? Also I've read about long tube headers that wrap around the steering rack causing the power steering fluid to boil ,is this true? Thanks

[94bamf]

$1200 for headers! That's crazy. Why are headers for GTO's so damn expensive?

I agree with you 100 percent, I will wait for BBK and see if they decided to make headers for the GTO, if not mine won't have headers.

I certainly understand things being more expensive because of the limited number of cars and the limited number of customers, but they are atleast partly that expensive because they can be(what else are you gonna buy?).

Damn near everything for the GTO is priced crazy. :banghead:

[Timonator]

I agree with you 100 percent, I will wait for BBK and see if they decided to make headers for the GTO, if not mine won't have headers.

I certainly understand things being more expensive because of the limited number of cars and the limited number of customers, but they are atleast partly that expensive because they can be(what else are you gonna buy?).

Damn near everything for the GTO is priced crazy. :banghead:I think they're a little on the high side but consider what it would cost for a high quality large primary header for any car then add ceramic coating so they don't deteriorate plus some high flow cats and you'll be pretty close to that price. And it could be worse. Dinan headers for bmws are like 10 grand.

[mr2guru]

Do these come with header gaskets? Do you pricematch?

[PFYC]

Do these come with header gaskets? Do you pricematch?
They do come with gaskets and we do have a low price guarantee. There is a link to the details of the low price guarantee on the Welcome page of our web site. http://www.pfyc.com/gtostore

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Mike Lewis
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[xom]

Do they have a CARB number for us in Cali?

impossible for long tube headers to have a CARB number. Technically it illegal for anyone here to install them as it removes/moves the cats which is a federal no no. We in CA have the smog check in which is a pretty tough visual inspection as well as the snifer check.(depending on where you go of course) so that makes it even harder/impossible to pass smog even if the you pass the emissions portion.