Plz!!! Tell Me What You Think!!!

[Tinman]

On November 14th I made a phone call to a company called ON3MotorSports.
The answering machine came on stating they were having phone problems and to leave your name & number and they would get back to you.
Not long after a guy who goes by the name of Dustin Robinette called me back.
I told him I was looking for a set of custom made OZ Galileo III wheels for my GTO.
I let him know that the price I had been previously quoted for the custom made set with KDW's and Drag Radials was $3,775.xx.
I had also told him with the custom made set needed No Modifications at all would have to be made for fitments on the GTO. They bolt right up!
He reassured me this was no problem and he would take good care of me.
Well, about 3 hours later Dustin called me back and said he had located a set of the wheels for me. I was like "HuH", those have to be CUSTOM made.
He said he had been in touch with "his guy's" and all of them were using a split configuration set of wheels from a BMW M3. He later changed this to a series 3 BMW.
I was very skeptical and questioned him about the offsets. I knew what they were supposed to be. He told me that was not a problem and he "Guaranteed"
the wheels and tire combo would have zero fitments issues! No cutting, no fending pulling, and no rolling the rear quarters would be needed to make them work.
"Just bolt them on", Dustin said. I asked him, since I wasn't fully convinced if he would take them back if anything at all was wrong? "Yes John" he said!
Now you have to take into consideration here, the off the shelf wheels he was selling me had a price tag much lower than the price for OZ's custom set for the GTO. Over 800 hundred dollars less.
Well Dustin was conveying his excitement over finding the wheels & tires for my car, in fact he was so excited he tacked on another $75.00 for something or another!
I forget exactly what the extra $ was for! So here is this man sitting back at his desk with a moron by his tail charging and getting almost $1000.00 dollars more profit than normal on a set of off the shelf OZ Wheels! WoW!
Well these wheels were going to be on the way to me within a few days.
OOPS, Dustin called, they hit a snag, some kid DROPPED and damaged the darn wheels. It would now be even a longer wait for the wheels. Mind you now, he had already charged me for the set on November the 15th.
Well during this waiting period, which ended up being over a month I had spoken to two other OZ wheel suppliers who had told me these wheels WOULD NOT FIT!!! They both in fact told me the GTO OZ Galileo III's had their own part #. Anything else would not fit!
I called Dustin to cancel my order. I told him I did not want the wheels.
He asked, so I explained to him that "2" OZ wheel suppliers said this was a waste of time and to stop the transaction!
He said he was going to look into it and would call me back.
He got back to me FAST, and had found out that these guys (OZ Suppliers) were WRONG, and that "his guys" were using this configuration all of the time! I told him I still didn't want them! He asked why again, and I flat out told him I thought it was BS and they weren't going to fit.
That is when he told me he would test fit them on his own 2006 GTO, and if there were any problems he would not send them.
He shot 4 dark pics for me with them mounted on one side of his car, and in his email he said:
------------------------------------------------------------------------
" Here's proof that these wheels fit! :)"

Thanks again, John!
- Dustin @ On 3

On 3 Motorsports
1434 N 26th Ave.
Phoenix, AZ 85053
PH: 602-269-0029
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I will include those pics later!
I was still worried, the 4 grand price tag had me being VERY CAUTIOUS!
So I finally asked one last time, "Dustin, you guarantee they will fit or my money back right? After all, it is 4 grand!!!!
"Absolutely"!!!, he replied!
Here are pics of the wheels on my car for a 1/2 of a block ride
http://mysite.verizon.net/tinman04/JPICS/RghtRR-1.JPG

http://mysite.verizon.net/tinman04/JPICS/RghtRR-2.JPG

http://mysite.verizon.net/tinman04/JPICS/LftRR-1.JPG

http://mysite.verizon.net/tinman04/JPICS/LftRR-2.JPG

http://mysite.verizon.net/tinman04/JPICS/LftFrt-1.JPG

http://mysite.verizon.net/tinman04/JPICS/RghtFrt-1.JPG

Obviously these Wheels Do Not fit.
They are not "Just as good as the custom set"!!!
He refuses to take the Wheels back, and went as far to say, " I don't remember giving you any guarantee!"
This guy in my opinion has gone back on his word and is very dishonest!
I'm having this taken care of in a way not usually done, and until the process is complete I will not give any details.
A chargeback is out of the question, this was my bank card and they do not get involved in such matters.
The way I have chosen to go is a much more effective means in the long run!!!
I have given you as many details as possible!
While trying to remain unbiased it is not a one sided info post!
Your opinions are welcome and would be greatly appreciated!
Last but not least, has anyone else had dealings with this vendor?
EDIT:
I forgot to mention, I told dustin I would eat the cost for the tires and lugs to try and make it easier for him only dealing with one vendor!
A Useless Offer!

[GT086]

From what you've told us, I'd kill him.

[TheEricHarris]

If you really spent $4K on wheels/tires and the guy will not back his word, this calls for a Southwest round trip ticket for some ass beating.

I'm still shocked you paid $4K on wheels/tires....dayum.

[ugly]

what a nightmare, that sucks dude

[Tinman]

If you really spent $4K on wheels/tires and the guy will not back his word, this calls for a Southwest round trip ticket for some ass beating.

I'm still shocked you paid $4K on wheels/tires....dayum.

Why are you shocked?
Have you never heard of a set of wheels costing 6 grand before?
HRE's and lots of other top of the line manufaturers cost well above 4 thousand.
I like the wheels and had been trying to get them for 2 years now.
Now this guy, due to a loss for names I'll use "GUY" pulls this Stunt!
It not only hurts me to see a vendor back out of a deal like this, but too then start lying about it blatently, man that really shows a true lack of character and self dignity! Respect is something you earn, that's far from what he has earned from me!!!

[caritter3]

Wow, I'm incredibly sorry to see those pics and feel for you.

[mike5215@bellsouth.n]

I'm a little confused, because it looks like you have these wheels (or very similar) in chrome on the pic in your sig.

Anyway, the lessons here are pretty clear:

-Get any guarantee in writing. In the case of a verbal guarantee like this, follow it up with a letter to the vendor, ie "This will serve as follow up to our discussion on [DATE] regarding the OZ rims for my GTO. As you'll recall, you advised that, if upon mounting the rims I discovered that they did not fit, or would not fit without additional modification to the car, you would take them back as a return for a full refund. If this is not your understanding of our discussion of [DATE], and your guarantee, please do not complete this sale and contact me at xxx-xxx-xxxx to discuss." Ideally this should be certified mail but regular mail is better than nothing.

-Pay with a credit card (not a debit card). Amex is best with regard to handling chargebacks.

In the instant case, it looks like you'll either have to roll/cut, or pull them off and sell the rims yourself.

[ShelbyGoat]

Take it to Judge Judy.

[ddawson]

I hate to say it but, any time a tire shop says they will fit without a custom offset being made run away.

BTW what offset are they and in what size??

Did you have the cradle aligned yet?? If not don’t as it moves the rear over to the right about a 1/8” more.

[04IBM GTO]

I did a charge back with my bankcard, check with your bank....

[multistrada74]

sucks man, but in my opinion, this car isn't worth 4,000 wheels. 2 g max.

[tmoneyr007]

Man that's a horrible story. You need to pull the wheels off and find out what the offsets are. Also is it only the rears that are rubbing? Do you have your fenders rolled?

[GagToe]

I'd shoot him, or have 15 goats say hello to him :evil:

[barkingspud]

Tinman....On3 is a sponsor on ls1tech.com......Make use of their sponsor feedback system and they may step in to help.....

[mike5215@bellsouth.n]

Ya know, why can't your card issuer do a chargeback for you? It's not so much that he promised you he'd take them back if they didn't fit... he sent you the wrong rims, right? I mean, he sold you rims that were a GTO fitment, and he sent you ones that weren't. So, he didn't ship what you ordrered. That's an absolute valid reason for a chargeback. And your bank can do so...that's the benefit of the Visa logo on there.

[RazzinGTO]

Tinman....On3 is a sponsor on ls1tech.com......Make use of their sponsor feedback system and they may step in to help.....

This sounds like a good idea. I have dealt with a lot of the sponsors on here and they are all great. I think a large part of their clientel (sp?) comes from these forums. Therefore if you post information on there about your experiance others will see it, and the sponsor might just do something to help alleviate the issue.

Oh and hurry up, I want to hear about what you are doing about this.

JR

[HORTENSE]

yea.... what are the offsets? cuz i was thinking of some O.Z. wheels too....mind the price....

raise hell man!

Edit: are they heavier wheels compared to stock? i have a hard time finding any technical info on O.Z. wheels........

[Tinman]

I've tried to register on ls1tech, my provider blocks the activation emails from the forums for some reason. I'll try to track down a moderator there later.
I am using a perfectly legitimate approach to bring this matter to a close, I appreciate the concern very much!

mike5215@bellsouth.net:

Those wheels are in no way near the same. I would not buy another set of those lead weights :)
Thanks for your advice Mike, (Good For Future Refference)!

ddawson: The new wheels are 18x8 fronts and 18x9 rears, the tires are 245x40x18 front & 275x35x18 rear G-Force drag radials. G-Force KDW's front side.
The offset on the rear "HE SAID" was +52 --- NOT!!!
He wouldn't give me the front offset, he always danced around it when I asked!
Both front and rear tires rub, the fronts would get very beat up on a turn with a bump at say 10MPH, no doubt in my mind!

As far as what goes on the car, I agree it is a bit much for tires and wheels, but if he hadn't price gouged me it would be down to around 3 grand!
My car is well worth a set of W's & T's in the 3 to 4 grand range.
Have a look if you like! (http://mysite.verizon.net/vzerj5bk/mygoat/id1.htm l)

Hortense: I honestly do not know what these offsets are that I have, but mike @ DMS can get you the correct OZ wheels for your GTO!
As for heavier, far from it, each wheel shipped was less then 35 lbs. w/ tires!


My toilet stopped up trying to send Dustin @ ON3 his next meal, no need for a plumber though, I be 1! I guess I need to cut back on the serving size aye???!!!

[dms]

I've tried to register on ls1tech, my provider blocks the activation emails from the forums for some reason. I'll try to track down a moderator there later.
I am using a perfectly legitimate approach to bring this matter to a close, I appreciate the concern very much!

mike5215@bellsouth.net:

Those wheels are in no way near the same. I would not buy another set of those lead weights :)
Thanks for your advice Mike, (Good For Future Refference)!

ddawson: The new wheels are 18x8 fronts and 18x9 rears, the tires are 245x40x18 front & 275x35x18 rear G-Force drag radials. G-Force KDW's front side.
The offset on the rear "HE SAID" was +52 --- NOT!!!
He wouldn't give me the front offset, he always danced around it when I asked!
Both front and rear tires rub, the fronts would get very beat up on a turn with a bump at say 10MPH, no doubt in my mind!

As far as what goes on the car, I agree it is a biot much for tires and wheels, but if he hadn't price gouged me it would be down to around 3 grand!
My car is well worth a set of W's & T's in the 3 to 4 grand range.
Have a look if you like! (http://mysite.verizon.net/vzerj5bk/mygoat/id1.htm l)


My toilet stopped up trying to send Dustin @ ON3 his next meal, no need for a plumber though, I be 1! I guess I need to cut back on the serving size aye???!!!

I have done a number of OZ wheels in the Galaeos and Superleggara III series. There are pictures on my site showing them. All were built on split configured wheels, and none of them had issues like this. Also all the ones I did also had complete Pedders systems, including cradle aligns. But the main reason is the stock OZ wheels are really set up for a BMW and they do not have the appropirate offsets. You have to have them custom made with a 53mm offset in the rear.

mike

[Tinman]

I have done a number of OZ wheels in the Galaeos and Superleggara III series. There are pictures on my site showing them. All were built on split configured wheels, and none of them had issues like this. Also all the ones I did also had complete Pedders systems, including cradle aligns. But the main reason is the stock OZ wheels are really set up for a BMW and they do not have the appropirate offsets. You have to have them custom made with a 53mm offset in the rear.

mike

Thanks loads Mike, this info will go a long way in the investigation.
Also, thanks for the GTO OZ Galileo III Wheel part #'s.
I've got this all taken care of now and am awaiting the deposit back into my account.
I will be in contact with you for a set of the CUSTOM Made OZ Galileo III wheels with the KDW's and Drag Radials from the G-Force Series!
I want to appologize publicly for my rant previously.
I know you have accepted it but wanted to make it public was all Mike!
The part #'s you gave me today literally Cinch's this deal between myself and ON3, thanks Millions!!!!
BMW OZ Galileo III Wheels have no place on Pontiac GTO's, the proof of this is above!!!

[Tinman]

I have emailed the webmaster at ls1tech and also regitered under a new name and email. I have yet to get one of their activation emails and no messages from ls1tech.
I'm only trying to warn some folks of what to expect from this guy, I'm not going to pull my hair out trying to get an account on the site!!!!
I've tried twice, until I hear back from them they won't know what this dude is about!

[Midnight]

Thanks loads Mike, this info will go a long way in the investigation.
Also, thanks for the GTO OZ Galileo III Wheel part #'s.
I've got this all taken care of now and am awaiting the deposit back into my account.
I will be in contact with you for a set of the CUSTOM Made OZ Galileo III wheels with the KDW's and Drag Radials from the G-Force Series!
I want to appologize publicly for my rant previously.
I know you have accepted it but wanted to make it public was all Mike!
The part #'s you gave me today literally Cinch's this deal between myself and ON3, thanks Millions!!!!
BMW OZ Galileo III Wheels have no place on Pontiac GTO's, the proof of this is above!!!

Dude, I hope this works out for you. As for the cost of the wheels, you guys need to check out Tinman's website. I don't think $$$ are an issue for him. Besides, who says $4k is too much for shoes? My wife has at least that much upstairs in her closet!

[no limits]

It looks like he ordered bmw m3 offset instead of 3series offset. I had my friends m3 wheels on my car and it looked like the one in the pics. The front should be fine but the back ones are like 25 or 35 offset.

[Summerwolf]

sucks man, but in my opinion, this car isn't worth 4,000 wheels. 2 g max.

this was the DUMBEST thing anyone on this forum has said EVER

[Runscared]

The O.Z. Galileao III should be available for the GTO in 45MM offset in 18x8 or 18x9. Here is a link.

http://www.tirerack.com/upgrade_garage/WheelSearch .jsp?autoMake=Pontiac&autoModel=GTO&autoYear=2006&autoModClar=

Hope all goes well for you in solving your issues with the previous vendor.

[dms]

The O.Z. Galileao III should be available for the GTO in 45MM offset in 18x8 or 18x9. Here is a link.

http://www.tirerack.com/upgrade_garage/WheelSearch .jsp?autoMake=Pontiac&autoModel=GTO&autoYear=2006&autoModClar=

Hope all goes well for you in solving your issues with the previous vendor.

Running 9 inch rear wheels at 45mm offsets, is probaba;y what Tinman has. You absolutey need 53-55mm offsets for the rear. You can order the correct offset wheels, but they have to be custom made, and they charge you extra for it.

Everyone focuses on the cost of wheels, and to be honest is a practical way of looking at it. But when you spend $5k to $7k on engine upgrades, then put on a cool looking wheel that is 3-10 pounds heavier than OEM, whats the point? You just added serious unspring weight and reduced your net hp.
The advantage of the 2 OZ wheels that are avialable for the GTO, is they are very strong and light weight.I think the Superrleggara III wheel is the strongest, lightest wheel out there for under 3500 a set, and use titanium fasteners.

OZ wheels are great, and yest pricey. But if you look ta Tinman's GTO, he has spared no expense making his GTO an ultimate ride

mike

[tony parker]

What do you mean the Goats aren't worth big $ wheels? I spent close to 4Gs on mine and it was worth every penny.

[Tinman]

Great News...
The people within the bank where I had faxed all of my information have no record of me sending ANYTHING in the form of information pertaining to this incident!
It makes you wonder exactly which moron got this info, and exactly what he or she did with it!
I'm so pissed off I can't see straight!
I've got to drive over 130 miles to retrieve the info needed in this case, re-fax it to them, then hope I get my money back for another TWO fricken weeks!
Isn't it wonderful how little 4 grand means when it isn't your money!

[Midnight]

Great News...
The people within the bank where I had faxed all of my information have no record of me sending ANYTHING in the form of information pertaining to this incident!
It makes you wonder exactly which moron got this info, and exactly what he or she did with it!
I'm so pissed off I can't see straight!
I've got to drive over 130 miles to retrieve the info needed in this case, re-fax it to them, then hope I get my money back for another TWO fricken weeks!
Isn't it wonderful how little 4 grand means when it isn't your money!
Damn! I wish I had more to add, but... damn.

[HOT04GTO]

Tinman....On3 is a sponsor on ls1tech.com......Make use of their sponsor feedback system and they may step in to help.....

The above statement is a good start! Also contact the BBB (Better Business Burea) and file a complaint at complaints.bbb.org/ . Also, word of mouth is the best way to sink a business that is run with poor business ethics. The guy is obviously a piece of sh!t, good luck with your situation.

[Loosecannon]

I hope it all works out for you Tinman,...
P.s. I spent about $3,500 on my CCW SP500's,.with tires. Spending 4g's for wheels is easy to now-a-days. Nice car by the way!

[Tinman]

Well this bullshit has come to an end with the Credit Card Company!
They say since the wheels and tires were "INSTALLED & DAMAGED" even though wrong, they are now my merchandise. So the asshole at on3motorsports is free and clear to keep smiling as I take it up the AXX!
Let this be a lesson for anyone dealing with someone they don't know!
That low life good for nothing POS got away with this!

Now moving on, since these wheels are 3 part wheels, wouldn't it be safe to assume the proper section could be ordered to make these fit properly?
I'm open for suggestions...thanks!

EDIT:
Here is what I'm going to try and do to remedy this situation.
I called Eastwood and ordered a fender roller, I'll roll all 4 corners.
I've also got a new rear set of springs for this current suspension, the current spring rating is 400lb's each, my new springs are 500lb's each.
Hopefully this will be all that will be needed. I'll know soon enough, the roller should be here tomorrow from PA, and I put the new springs on today.
I've Got my fingers crossed!

[odie3283]

I'm in Phoenix, these guys seem a little shady to me...

I could go kill him or something...At least rough him up and steal his lunch money

[Underoath]

I'm in Phoenix, these guys seem a little shady to me...

I could go kill him or something...At least rough him up and steal his lunch money

Now THATS brotherhood. I hate d-bags that tell lies just to sell a product. He'll get his in the end.... His wife will cheat on him and bring back herpes. Yyyep.

[04GeeTeeOh]

throw a rock through his window-...wait ..thats just me though..

[enjoisht]

ouch that sucks, yea those wheels are expensive, they are on tire rack for 718, wow i feel ya man, sorry to hear about that...if you get you money back go with CCW,,they are amazing...later

[racefaceboy]

i would drive to his place and kick the living Crap out of him. i cant belive he backed off his word. what a scum bag, i hope everything turns out good for you.

[Tinman]

i would drive to his place and kick the living Crap out of him. i cant belive he backed off his word. what a scum bag, i hope everything turns out good for you.

Thanks for the support, it's appreciated big time!
As to the post about getting my money back, that's history!
He hasn't heard / seen the last of me!
But to show my hand would be real "Dumb-Shit" like.
My son lives there :)
He's getting married also, and I'm making sure I'm there!
Only thing Dustin needs to figure out is, who my son is, and when he is getting married.
I got something soooooooo special made just for him!
(Who - My Son or Dustin?) hehehehe
He will begin thinking, "man, is there a conspiracy against me, or is Tinman in town"?
Keep your eyes Õ¿Õ open you low life!
I'm coming!

[Summerwolf]

I'm not too too far away right now being deployed, I get three days off after every 6 so I could help ya out too on the roughing him up for lunch money bit....

[paulboy2006]

post his emaill we can all shoot him one saying "do something good for someone, 1 person hears about it, Do something bad, 10 people here about it, and it compounds from their buddy"

And also yes, i was con'd out for exactly 4k on an ebay deal, took 4 months to get a responce, and i still saw no refund... i will get vengenece, just letting him forget me first.

Good luck buddy, Please post the offsets and sizing

[goat 06]

sucks man, but in my opinion, this car isn't worth 4,000 wheels. 2 g max.

:confused: :bootyshak :slap:

[Tinman]

The wheels aren't marked, I have no idea what the offsets are.
They are 18x8's and 18x9's, I do know this, they aren't the right ones!

[ricksvt]

any update?

[Tinman]

any update?

Credit Card company said the mechandise wasn't in the same shape I got it in, therefore it was MINE!

I got a fender roller from eastwood, I'm just waiting on warm weather to get the job done and see how they fit.
If the job doesn't work out I'm going to sell them and get the right ones.
Tire Rack has the rear ones for the GTO in stock, I'm pretty sure I'll be able to make the front ones work.
Time will soon tell! The front's have to be special ordered. The rears they have listed as being a +53 offset.
As for the seller, I posted about him over on LS1TECH, it's like it went in one ear and out the other for those guys.
Anyone dumb enough to deal with a dishonest dog like him deserves what they get.
I'm going out there this year, my son is getting married.
I'm looking real forward to that trip!

[LBarnes]

Are you sure that the offset wasn,t affected by the spotech rotors. I know this can change the offset on some cars quite a bit?

[bobby]

throw a rock through his window-...wait ..thats just me though..

I'm with him...

[dendyc]

That Blows!

[mach5288]

That sucks man, unfortunately there are alot of dishonest people out there, but to be honest, if he was that shady about giving actual specs on the wheels when other dealers said they wouldn't work, I wouldn't have ordered from him in the first place.

I hope you can get some form of retribution from that asshole and get the wheels to work by rolling the fenders, and you can actually make more room if you cut the fenders if you want to try that instead. Good luck!

[Tinman]

I am impatiently waiting for warmer weather.

L_Barnes, that is not the case, the car currently has GM Optional MC2 FZ10's (18x8) with a +42 offset all the way around.
And when I had the stoptechs installed they didn't affect the fit one bit.
The worst part of the problem is in the rear though, stoptechs are on the front only.
Thanks for the input, I appreciate it!

This is how the line-up comes up on Tire Rack!

OZ Gallileo III - Split Configuration

Finish Shown: Bright Sil w/Polished Lip
Size Selected: 18x8 Front
Price: $632 (each)
Estimated Availability Special Order
Recommended Tire Size: 235/40-18
Wheel Offset +45mm
Weight: 27.5 lbs.


Size Selected: 18x9 Optional Rear
Price: $718 (each)
Estimated Availability In Stock
Recommended Tire Size: 265/35-18
Wheel Offset +53mm
Weight: 28.0 lbs.

[Tinman]

Well, I don't think I could have gotten much luckier!
enjoisht's pop owns a 3 bay automotive shop, and enjoisht (Forum Member) (Kyle)
invited me there to roll my fenders.
Kyle, another Kyle and a couple of others did all of the work.
We took our time, or should say THEY, and everything worked out PERFECT!
I changed the rear springs to 500lb's each from 400lb's and bought a fender roller from Eastwood.
All 4 fenders needed rolling, the rear needed it the most.
In fact the left side rear just barely rubs, and we have a ton of room left for rolling.
Since my back is so screwed up I couldn't play as long as those guys can.
They are motor heads Thru N Thru!
The shop is SPOTLESS and set up so well it made this entire project a cake walk!
And now, his pop is a mechanic, so I finally found me a GR8 local shop!
This man takes care of his place, his belonging's, tools and most of all his Vehicles!
Kyle and I are going to finish up next week, or maybe even this weekend( I HOPE ), it all depends.
Until then no pics! I need to have the tires reversed on the rear rims and get them road force balanced & an alignment!
I know there are prolly a few of you saying: "Instead of doing all of that bitching, why didn't you just try this 1st?"

Well it goes like this OK!
The wheels are made by OZ SPECIALLY for the GTO!
No fender rolling, no need for new springs or a fender roller (Well Over $700.00) before I'm through, and that's if the rear tires are still useable!
For $3,800.00 + :eek2: they should have jumped onto the car by themselves and should have included an ass wiper.
Nuff said, this thread is now DEAD.
I'm a happy camper, and in my personal opinion, the wheels/tires look S I C K!!!!
Thanks again both Kyle's and the rest of you guys!
This thread is over and OUT!
Thanks to all of you for your suggestions and idea's!


I specially like the one about spending a short amount of time in AZ


REAL SOON!


Pics in another thread soon!







EDIT:


I forgot to mention.
A buddy of Kyles showed a genuine interest in my 6 wheels and 8 tires,
So it looks like those bad boys will be gone soon too :)
I'm giving it all to him for $400.00. <---- Aren't Good Deals Just Great?!!? ;)

[beansandcornbread]

Main - 602-269-0029
Fax - 602-269-6814

Those are the numbers of those bastards. Everyone feel free to give them some hell about the lousy sh!ty buisness these assho!es run. I certainly will. Damn that pisses me off. Glad to see things are looking up a bit for you.

[MVDCGTO]

I'm glad everything is working itself out for you. It really sucks when a deal goes south and you end up catching it in the a$$. Your car looks great in the pics I cant wait to see the new wheels on it.

P.S. You took this much better than I would have. . .but I have a VERY short fuse for ignorant a-holes like that :bomb: :The_Villa

[Tinman]

At this point in the game, that was mild compared to the nightmares I went through cuz of mistakes made, and I mean a ton of em!
Like the time it was on the dyno at 5800 rpm's and the pressure line popped out of the tranny cuz it was re-installed incorrectly,

The line shot right onto the header and the whole car went up in flames!
Seen some really dumb chit MVDCGTO (http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/member.php?u=7996)

Thanks for the Backup beansandcornbread (http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/member.php?u=11565) :) :) :)

[Tinman]

Well, I ordered another pair of Galileo III's for the rear of my car back in March.
It's such a beautiful day, and I'm getting ready to head up to Maryland.
I decided I would put these on before I go, I'm saving the Drag Radials for track purposes only.
These wheels have the KDW 2's in a 275 width on them.
Anyway, the guy I got the other set of wheels from didn't include the hubcentrics, these new wheels have them already installed!
I don't see any problems from not having them previously, but I'm sure they make a difference! (Not installed yet)
So I called the Tire *ack and asked them to send me 4.
I was already in the puter from my previous order.
They are sending all 4 rings to me FREE!
Now tell me that isn't customer service!
If I had waited just a few more months I could have gotten these wheels through them myself!
We live and hopefully learn!
Just wanted to toss out the info on what great Customer Service they have!
Off to complete my install and hit the road, cya...

[06 TRed GTO]

sucks man, but in my opinion, this car isn't worth 4,000 wheels. 2 g max.

When the car is stock maybe I mite be able to see your point, But when you upgrade the car as much as he has or other owners have then it is much more realistic. If you put 15-20k+ in the car in mods, Than a 4-6k+ set of wheels isn't that far off track. I know first hand what he is went through that's why I went with a Custom Made wheel only so you don't have to deal with off the shelf issues like this.

Being Different is NEVER cheapest route!



Great job so far TINMAN :thumbs:


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[Tinman]

06 TRed GTO:
Thanks for that, I agree! I never felt that putting that amount into wheels was out of line. Others have said similar things. It's all in your likes and wants I would think.
I do want to add to my experience today.
I can't believe how GOOD my car is riding!
I don't mean a little bit better, it is riding like I had a full new suspension added!
I am shocked!
Those drag radials ride like flinstone wheels! That is not an understatement!
Changing them out to 275 KWD's made so much difference it is totally unbelievable!
My car rides exactly how it did when I got it back from LPE now, no, even better, better than it ever did new!
I honestly thought my struts and shocks were needing rebuilding.
I know differently now.
I also have the 40 setting adjustment on the shocks and struts on #30.
10 more clicks and it would be at full race(hard). So to get a smooth ride at that setting tells me these are still in great shape and the valving is working perfectly!
I had mentioned I had all of the bushings redone, but the car was riding like a TANK!
Now that I switched those DR's out it is sooooooo unreal!
I also added hub centric rings to the rear wheels today, I'm not sure if they added to it all, but I am definitely a happy camper! :)

I was wondering if anyone else has had this happen to them?
I have never heard anything like this before from any of the members, so I thought they would be fine on a Daily Driver.
They weren't on there very long either, maybe 5k.
Well, I sure got a pleasant surprise today. I hope things keep going this well, (knock knock knock on wood)

[dms]

Well, I ordered another pair of Galileo III's for the rear of my car back in March.
It's such a beautiful day, and I'm getting ready to head up to Maryland.
I decided I would put these on before I go, I'm saving the Drag Radials for track purposes only.
These wheels have the KDW 2's in a 275 width on them.
Anyway, the guy I got the other set of wheels from didn't include the hubcentrics, these new wheels have them already installed!
I don't see any problems from not having them previously, but I'm sure they make a difference! (Not installed yet)
So I called the Tire *ack and asked them to send me 4.
I was already in the puter from my previous order.
They are sending all 4 rings to me FREE!
Now tell me that isn't customer service!
If I had waited just a few more months I could have gotten these wheels through them myself!
We live and hopefully learn!
Just wanted to toss out the info on what great Customer Service they have!
Off to complete my install and hit the road, cya...


the OZ wheels do not need hub centric rings. They are so accurate. Unless something has changed with Tire Rack in the last couple of months, they do not do the custom offsets that are needed for your split configuration. Are they going to do the offsets you and I have discussed?

mike

[Tinman]

Hi Mike;

I sent you a PM with the sizes of all 6 wheels.
They are a split config with the front's being in the +40's range and the new rears are +53's.

Thanks

[wildwildwest]

I have to agree with GTO86 :iagree:

[Tinman]

From what you've told us, I'd kill him.

DITTO!!!!!!!!!