Est. Price on New Camaro????

[GTOnBLUHVN]

From motortrend.com...

and the big-horse versions of Mustang, Camaro, and Challenger will probably be $50,000-plus.

Do you guys really think the top of the line Camaro will really sticker for $50K+???

[HUMBLER]

Uhh, no.

[GoatChips]

A camaro with the LS7 could fetch 50k, I would bet sticker would end up even higher the first year with dealer markup. Same guys buying the cobra would buy a Camaro ZL-1.

[Adam4356]

very possible taking into accounts future prices. think of the CTSV now - luxury items + hand built hi-po motor.


i wouldn't at all be surprised if it's well into the 40's, near 50

[SSport]

I couldn't see it being that much. The camaro has always been the competition for the Mustang and in order to compete, they need to have similar prices......I couldn't see how they could price the SS that far away from a GT....but who knows

[Smitty's05GTO]

From motortrend.com...

and the big-horse versions of Mustang, Camaro, and Challenger will probably be $50,000-plus.

Do you guys really think the top of the line Camaro will really sticker for $50K+???

Considering top of the line C6 vettes can be bought for around 50K... i sure hope not.

[Razz2o4]

The prices I am hearing is mid to high 30's for the camaros and tipping into low 40's fully loaded. Unfortunately Les Stanford Chevrolet has an ad in Dupont so I am getting calls everyday on it, but we just dont know the details yet. Maby some time after the car show I can give some better ideas. For a car that wont go into production untill mid 2008 though, its hard to say. We are taking deposits though!

[GTO1_OHIO]

We'll see an entry level V6 (mid $20K), V8 (30Ks) , and V8+ (40ks) just like Dodge and Ford are doing with the Mustang and Charger. We'll see a sh*t load of the first two and very few of the top of the line. What they won't be is as rare as our car is.

[GoatChips]

We'll see an entry level V6 (mid $20K), V8 (30Ks) , and V8+ (40ks) just like Dodge and Ford are doing with the Mustang and Charger. We'll see a sh*t load of the first two and very few of the top of the line. What they won't be is as rare as our car is.

If this bodes true, and I'm not a doubting Thomas, then what do you think the demand will be on the V8+ models. Are you (Raz204) getting any deposits for those yet?? And if so, is dealer markup going to be standard the first year? Just your best guess is all I'm asking.

[Jeffs386]

each one ordered come with a free mullett haircut!

[BacKDooRMaN]

When I participated in a Consumer Product Asessment (put on :secret: by Dodge to test the water for the Challenger), they were planning on marketing the Challenger @ 31,xxx for the V8 & a V6 version for 27,xxx, keeping that in mind as well as what the crustang sells for & what our car sells for I think there is no way they would try to market the Camaro V8 @ 50k.

My guess is it will be sold near the price range of the crustang models.
With the V8 heavy loaded around 38-43k.

[TA455]

It wouldn't surprise me at all to see some top of the line/HiPo versions of the Camaro, Mustang, Charger, and Challenger reach the 50s.

Inflation is a sad fact of life. I bought a new '76 Trans AM for $4750; and 3 years later paid $5200 for a damned VW Rabbit.

No matter what the Camaro sells for I would suspect that it will cost less than the next generation GTO (if there is one).

[RobertHammen]

They are purportedly shooting for within $1k-$2k of Mustang prices. So, figure $22k for a 300 hp 3.6L DOHC V-6 (an upgraded version of the "high-feature" motor currently in the CTS and other higher-end cars), $28-$30k for the base V8 (dunno if this will be the 450 hp 6.2L LS3 or not), and then probably $40k+ for a s/c LS3 motor (no LS7's, indeed no current powertrains will be in the Camaro).

Of course, figure that there will be at least $5k-$10k ADM on all of these cars for at least the first year, so that may factor into the price as well...

More discussion on this topic availabe over at http://web.camaross.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f= 61

[Go X-15 Go]

They are purportedly shooting for within $1k-$2k of Mustang prices. So, figure $22k for a 300 hp 3.6L DOHC V-6 (an upgraded version of the "high-feature" motor currently in the CTS and other higher-end cars)

I cringe at the thought of that great new Camaro body with a V-6 in it, but oh well.

[Flashpoint]

I cringe at the thought of that great new Camaro body with a V-6 in it, but oh well.

Chevy needs and has always had a 6 cyl. camaro as the base, same for ford and the mustang. They need those cars, they are for the "want the look without the high insurance rates, fuel economy, price, etc... that the V8 models mean" crowd.

That market does exist. Just look at the shear number of V6 mustangs sold. Not everyone is a "performance oriented" person.

The Challenger was "planed", at least what was said early on as a limited production car, so that is the car that a V6 version doesn't make any sense. Guess this has changed. :confused:

Of course there is going to be the "market adjustments" because there are people willing to pay them to be the first on the block to have one.

Too bad most learn the hard way that once that rareness dies and the supply and demand start to equal out or even turn the other way, your resale if you care about it has plummeted, or if you happen to get into a wreck,the insurance company isn't going to cover your $10K market adjustment you paid .

IMO you are giving a loan to someone that is going already planing on bending you over if you give them a deposit on a car that you might get 1.5 years from now... So they get even more money investing your loan when you could have used the money yourself to help pay for your new car.

That doesn't make any sense to me at all :nuts:

oh and as for the mototrend comment... the majority of the automotive media are ridiculously inaccurate on information... even on stuff that if you research well enough you can find the real facts instead of writing opinionated :bs: ...if you want proof go look at a few articles written about 2004-2006 GTO's , then compare to your own experiences and the facts you know.

[simpleGTO]

Chevy needs and has always had a 6 cyl. camaro as the base, same for ford and the mustang. They need those cars, they are for the "want the look without the high insurance rates, fuel economy, price, etc... that the V8 models mean" crowd.

That market does exist. Just look at the shear number of V6 mustangs sold. Not everyone is a "performance oriented" person.

The Challenger was "planed", at least what was said early on as a limited production car, so that is the car that a V6 version doesn't make any sense. Guess this has changed. :confused:

Of course there is going to be the "market adjustments" because there are people willing to pay them to be the first on the block to have one.

Too bad most learn the hard way that once that rareness dies and the supply and demand start to equal out or even turn the other way, your resale if you care about it has plummeted, or if you happen to get into a wreck,the insurance company isn't going to cover your $10K market adjustment you paid .

IMO you are giving a loan to someone that is going already planing on bending you over if you give them a deposit on a car that you might get 1.5 years from now... So they get even more money investing your loan when you could have used the money yourself to help pay for your new car.

That doesn't make any sense to me at all :nuts:

oh and as for the mototrend comment... the majority of the automotive media are ridiculously inaccurate on information... even on stuff that if you research well enough you can find the real facts instead of writing opinionated :bs: ...if you want proof go look at a few articles written about 2004-2006 GTO's , then compare to your own experiences and the facts you know.
That is why I have an 05 instead of 04. What a difference a year makes, after trying to buy an 04 from the almighty dealer to picking from a lot full of 05s and a good deal. The dealers will hose everyone for the first year.

[AK Goat]

They are purportedly shooting for within $1k-$2k of Mustang prices. So, figure $22k for a 300 hp 3.6L DOHC V-6 (an upgraded version of the "high-feature" motor currently in the CTS and other higher-end cars), $28-$30k for the base V8 (dunno if this will be the 450 hp 6.2L LS3 or not), and then probably $40k+ for a s/c LS3 motor (no LS7's, indeed no current powertrains will be in the Camaro).



If they price out like stated above I suppose that's fair enough. Some of the earlier posts were hypothisizing basic V-8 models in the mid-to-upper $30's with the top models running $45k - $50k......if that's the case...:bs:

Hmmmm....my Goat is looking like a better deal every day. :burnout:

[Jontall]

It has to be priced the same as or a little less then Mustang GT.

[RobertHammen]

It has to be priced the same as or a little MORE then Mustang GT.

Fixed it for you.

Seriously, they hope to offer more HP and features (IRS et. al.) standard... of course, the Mustang will not be a static target, I am sure, but neither will its pricing be, either. They figure they've got a $1k-$2k cushion above current Mustang prices, or so I've been told...

[highperf]

I cringe at the thought of that great new Camaro body with a V-6 in it, but oh well.why ? the V6 is what makes the V8 all the more possible from a GM business perspective. +there has almost always been a V6 option.

You may not want to buy one, but it's a good thing.

as for "market adjustments" they can stick'em up their a**

Jim

[rednari]

Chevy will offer several models to fit every budget whether the buyer seeks HP or MPGs. The top Hi-hp model will probably cost between 38 and 42.
The Shelby 500, Ford's supercharged Mustang sells for 40 to 41. That will keep prices competitive for the new Camaro.

Also, if the car topped 50m, as suggested by motor trend, it places the vehicle in the same price range as a Corvette, and thus Chevy would compete against itself. Not likely, especially when the 45 plus market is further covered by the new CTS-V for 2008 for those that prefer luxury.

[Go X-15 Go]

why ? the V6 is what makes the V8 all the more possible from a GM business perspective. +there has almost always been a V6 option.

You may not want to buy one, but it's a good thing.

as for "market adjustments" they can stick'em up their a**

Jim

The design language and the aesthetic lines of the car are just mean - the concept car looks like it can shoot down MIGs or something... I understand the business standpoint and my dad owned an old '75 Firebird Esprit V6 (which was a fun car). It is a given that there will be many of them on the road when they come out and it will be a shame the day I will see one in person and not think anything of it - like the last gen f-bodies which fell victim to many custom atrocities:

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c295/ls1broughto n/HPIM0068.jpg

[Jontall]

With 140,000 Mustangs sold last year, the new Camaro better be one hell-of-a-car.

[highperf]

The design language and the aesthetic lines of the car are just mean - the concept car looks like it can shoot down MIGs or something... I understand the business standpoint and my dad owned an old '75 Firebird Esprit V6 (which was a fun car). It is a given that there will be many of them on the road when they come out and it will be a shame the day I will see one in person and not think anything of it - like the last gen f-bodies which fell victim to many custom atrocities:

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c295/ls1broughto n/HPIM0068.jpg
I hear ya... but a V8 doesn't keep folks from doing "stupid things". That kind of nastyness will still happen.

[bonequark]

With 140,000 Mustangs sold last year, the new Camaro better be one hell-of-a-car.

I'm not sure what a statement like that implies? If the car is crap but outsells the Mustang it will be a hit in your opinion? Camaros and Firebirds rarely sold more than Mustangs during the heyday years of the 60's, early 70's. So what? As long as the new one is solid, fast and comfortable, it will be a "hit", regardless of how many actual numbers roll off the line.

Remember also that the Ford Cobra Mustangs of the early 2000's never sold in very high numbers at all. In fact, they sold in volume very similar to the GTO. The GTO may in fact have sold more for its three year run than a similar 3 year run for the Mustang Cobra in 2000-2003. So what?

[thedak]

It has to be priced the same as or a little less then Mustang GT.

Ain't going to happen though....

[NRG]

I say no to a V6 version of the camaro. The camaro is a muscle car.... muscle cars have V8's... they don't have V6's. If you want the muscle car, you have to pay for the V8 that goes along with it.

[GTO_Kroh]

honestly im just gonna keep my goat ive always liked pontiacs better and i dont see a new trans am

[RobertHammen]

I say no to a V6 version of the camaro. The camaro is a muscle car.... muscle cars have V8's... they don't have V6's. If you want the muscle car, you have to pay for the V8 that goes along with it.

50% of Mustangs sold are of the V6 variety. Secretaries have to buy cars too. Not everyone (especially college kids) can afford a $30k V8, or the gas to keep it running. Spreading the cost across 100k vehicles is what makes the Camaro possible in the first place (and keeps the cost down on the V8 models you love so much)...

[DriveTOOfast]

I say no to a V6 version of the camaro. The camaro is a muscle car.... muscle cars have V8's... they don't have V6's. If you want the muscle car, you have to pay for the V8 that goes along with it.

Some posts completely ignore the truth and this is a prime example.

Not ALL Camaros were muscle cars, in fact very few were even sold as "muscle cars". 6 cylinder or small 2 barreled V-8's were the norm. Powerglides or turbo 350 automatics or 3 speed standards. Single track rear ends. Single exhausts.
Same with Chevelles and Mustangs and Barracudas and .........

There actually were a few cars that were sold strictly as muscle cars if you ignore the mid 70's to the mid 80's where they put name plates on any piece of junk:

GTO, Road Runner, GTX, & Vette come to mind.

[Adam4356]

Prices are gonna be up due to inflation across to the board. I'm certain the camaro will be competitive with the mustang but will not come in at anything less.


The V6 camaro is the key of the line. ALL of the success lies in this model and GM knows it this time around.

[GT joe]

I say no to a V6 version of the camaro. The camaro is a muscle car.... muscle cars have V8's... they don't have V6's. If you want the muscle car, you have to pay for the V8 that goes along with it.

The Camaro came with more v6's than v-8's in all years sold.The Chevelles came with 6's. The Lemans/Tempest came with 6's.The Dusters/Novas/Firebirds etc etc came with 6's.
I'm confused, what really makes it a muscle car? Is it the muscle that powers it or is it the body it comes in?
Say no to the smaller engines being avail to those that want them, and you can say no to being able to buy the same thing with the muscle car motor in it. No sales ... no build. Need to keep the hi-po world alive by letting those who are afraid of it to believe they are a part of it by driving their "cool 6 cyl. Camaro"
Car companies make money in sales, & we stay happy in performance.:sneaky:

[Train66]

Chevy will have no problem selling every Camaro they build with a V-8.

I like most all of this board, would only be interested in a Z/28 or SS V-8 Camaro, not a V-6 model. But the reality is that Chevy needs to sell a mix of V-8 and V-6 Camaros, to meet the CAFE fleet fuel economy standards imposed by law. The mix might be 75% V-6 and 25% V-8 Camaros.

With the CAFE standards likely to be raised by a Democratic led Congress, the key for Chevy and GM will be to build a very good V-6 Camaro, to meet the Corporate Average Fuel Economy - fleet standards required by law.

Chevy - GM has excellent new V-6 engines available in the Caddy CTS and Saturn Aura, that can be slightly modified for use in the base Camaro.

A base Camaro with a 280 horsepower (or more) V-6 and a six speed automatic would appeal to the secretary set, and be a price leader.
If Chevy builds that, and sells that car in good numbers, the Z/28 - SS V-8 Camaro will never be in jeopardy of being discontinued again.

It is very apparent that GM is really doing a great job with this new generation of GM vehicles, as far as interior materials, fit and finish is concerned. So, with a great available drivetrain lineup, the Camaro can be a real winner.

I expect the Camaro will be priced competively to the Mustang.

[Toby]

Long time read, first time poster.


They are trying to make the V6 camaro comparably priced to the base mustang. Which of course bring back a car like the Camaro will definitely get marked higher than normal just because of the name. The Challenger probably won't offer a base V6 due to costs of the new chassis and such. Ford plans to throw a volley back at Dodge and Chevrolet by making a Boss 302 version of the mustang (if that isn't already in production).

Camaro's biggest problem right now is mating the motor to the 6-speed auto, as well as pricing it within the mustang's range because of the advanced architecture. I doubt a top of the line Camaro would go for $50k. Maybe first year or two. But after that it will go back and maybe reside in $40k or so. Assuming they have the standard RS (v6), Z28 (mid-v8) and SS (high-V8). Z28 is expected to be the first badged V8 camaro and the SS will be soon to follow. Chevrolet will have no problem pushing the Camaro onto people. One of the letdowns of Pontiac fans is the absence of the Firebird. But hopefully it will come back once they see how the Camaro does.


And on the subject of a top C6 at $50k. A z06 is priced higher than $50k.

[txbatman]

I say no to a V6 version of the camaro. The camaro is a muscle car.... muscle cars have V8's... they don't have V6's. If you want the muscle car, you have to pay for the V8 that goes along with it.

It's a good thing you don't make decisions for GM. And actually, the camaro was a pony car, in response to the mustang. Muscle cars were midsize coupes with big engines. And most of the 1st gen camaros/firebirds were I-6's.

[Fastmofo]

Of course they have to have a base V6, not to come across sexist, but there will be chics and others that don't want a 400+hp V8, (as strange as that may sound). Did someone say 300hp V6? Impressive!

[Konnie the Goat]

One of the letdowns of Pontiac fans is the absence of the Firebird. But hopefully it will come back once they see how the Camaro does.


Wont happen. But dont worry, youll be able to buy a conversion kit. GM will not make another firechicken. Once motors went corporate, there werent enough differences between the two. A GTO type car for pontiac make more sense. it has enough difference, but enough in common, to be both porfitable, and not steal camaro sales.

[GTPDan]

Wont have an LS7 or an LS2, neither engine will even be in production when the Camaro rolls out. Also now the grape vine is saying that the engine choices will consist of 2 6s (one economy and one hipo) and 1 v8. I think its a pretty safe assumption that the LS3 will be the v8 since it is supposed to debut in 2008 as the new base v8 for the Corvette.