View Full Version : GMM Street or Race
CycloneGoat2005
02-12-2007, 01:04 PM
JHP has stock in Both the Race & Street Rip Shifters at there NY Distribution Center. Email JHP.com.au or call the USA Line direct at 1-716-940-7548 to place your orders today.
DP
BoostedLT5
02-12-2007, 01:45 PM
How much for the race version shipped to 01701?
GEMELLI
02-12-2007, 02:17 PM
What about the conversion from race to street for the LSS?
offaxis
02-12-2007, 02:40 PM
just ordered mine !! glad to see someone had the street version in stock ready to go at a great price too
thanks
Jeremy
fat nick
02-12-2007, 02:48 PM
How much for a street version for LSS?
JoesYum
02-12-2007, 04:42 PM
The prices are listed in JHP website. All prices include shipping.
I got mine after a week, it was shipped from NYC.
BaadGoat2006
02-15-2007, 03:21 PM
I would like a price on a race version to 37323
whiteboyslo
02-15-2007, 03:33 PM
Guys -
All their prices are here:
http://www.jhp.com.au/monaro-gto/
prices include shipping
Mike
TitanMS
02-15-2007, 09:45 PM
I called yesterday but no answer and no call back. Just sent you a PM ;)
BaadGoat2006
02-16-2007, 07:59 AM
i wish they would have a GP on these shifters
fuzzybam
02-16-2007, 09:17 AM
Man, I hate calling places. I prefer to order online. So which person do I email because I only have the domain name...
huskergto
02-16-2007, 01:07 PM
I smell a HUGE Group Purchase on these baaad boys. :)
LS2Greg
02-16-2007, 01:56 PM
I smell a HUGE Group Purchase on these baaad boys. :)
I'm down with that!
Let me ask a quick question though, after reading on the website, I am a little confused between the street and race versions. Can someone tell me why I would want the street vs. the race or vise versa? Thanks!
BaadGoat2006
02-16-2007, 02:16 PM
Im down, hell if the deal was sweet enough...Id buy two.
Blk Goat
02-16-2007, 02:37 PM
I'm in for a GP
RPS06GTO
02-16-2007, 03:59 PM
Hmmm...GP sounds tasty.
Mtn Goat
02-16-2007, 05:14 PM
Ordered mine the day of the first post of the thread. Got it today, and I installed it within a few hours.
Nice!
tigertamer
02-16-2007, 05:27 PM
group purchase!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! come on geoff!!!!
tigertamer
02-16-2007, 05:31 PM
email geoff from jhp .let's see what he saids.
rcn11thacr
02-16-2007, 06:44 PM
Ttt
speeddemon
02-16-2007, 08:17 PM
GP :ftw: ill buy one fo sho! :D
fuzzybam
02-17-2007, 03:34 AM
If there's a GP, mark me down for a street version...
fat nick
02-17-2007, 06:34 AM
GP it
cjmatt
02-17-2007, 07:18 AM
ill prob go in on a GP too, or else wait for the hurst
QSGTO
02-17-2007, 01:46 PM
I'm in for for race version
woodnutz
02-17-2007, 06:20 PM
+1 for gp. I need one
tigertamer
02-17-2007, 07:57 PM
come on jhp get off the pot and sale some ripshifters!! the boys want a gp!!
365ciGTO
02-17-2007, 08:38 PM
I'm in for a GP, street version!
longhornbsbll15
02-17-2007, 10:08 PM
+1 for the GP, i've got the credit card in hand! I felt one tonight and I NEED THE SUM BITCH!
tigertamer
02-18-2007, 05:41 AM
i count about 12-14 people for a gp.come on jhp!!!!!
BaadGoat2006
02-18-2007, 06:41 AM
count me in for 2, going to pick up an 05 today also
tigertamer
02-18-2007, 07:14 AM
seems like alot of interest in the gmm ripshift for a gp. anyone have a inside line to geoff at jhp to get this started?
speeddemon
02-19-2007, 01:01 AM
seems like alot of interest in the gmm ripshift for a gp. anyone have a inside line to geoff at jhp to get this started?
+1000
imran
02-19-2007, 03:12 AM
if their is a group purchase, i'm most likely getting one too. ( race version )
SI GTO
02-19-2007, 04:10 AM
I'm in for GP-Street version....
Bandit
02-19-2007, 08:11 AM
I'd be in for one if a GB happens.
JUDGETHIS06
02-19-2007, 08:19 AM
You could add me to the list for a race version on a GP
LS2Greg
02-19-2007, 09:02 AM
LOL, we all want to get one, someone has GOT to make this happen!
Spyral
02-19-2007, 10:35 AM
I helped Titan install his in just over an hour last Saturday. Get the race version, it is the shiznit. I would be down for a GP but I already have a GMM Race version.
zervun
02-19-2007, 11:49 AM
I would be in for a GP also not sure which one
Anyone tried both? street and race?
jsalvato1
02-19-2007, 01:11 PM
Count me in for a GP. Just haven't decided which one to go for.
ecetim
02-19-2007, 01:15 PM
I'd be in for a GP (street), but make it worth my while! ;)
Mtn Goat
02-19-2007, 02:45 PM
I will say that the race I just installed is quite LOUD! Pretty much in every gear, I can hear the internals of the tranny working. I know some people say there isn't much difference, but mine is significantly louder than b-4.
However, I don't really mind the noise that much, since the shifting is so much improved.
raceaddict
02-19-2007, 03:00 PM
Count me in on a street version!!
Gilty1
02-19-2007, 03:00 PM
Count me in for a race version if the GP happens
CycloneGoat2005
02-19-2007, 03:41 PM
We did a "GP" on the GMM's about 4 months ago and I would like to thank all of you that participated in the "GP". As of right now there are no plans to run another special at this time.
Thanks for support
DP/JHP
ecetim
02-19-2007, 03:57 PM
We did a "GP" on the GMM's about 4 months ago and I would like to thank all of you that participated in the "GP". As of right now there are no plans to run another special at this time.
Thanks for support
DP/JHPBoooooooooooooo :nono:
speeddemon
02-19-2007, 04:11 PM
Boooooooooooooo :nono:
:( :( :( :(
fuzzybam
02-19-2007, 04:32 PM
:( :( :( :(
We did a "GP" on the GMM's about 4 months ago and I would like to thank all of you that participated in the "GP". As of right now there are no plans to run another special at this time.
Thanks for support
DP/JHP
Why Not???
Seems to me the interest is there to support another "GP".
I will sign up if you have one.
speeddemon
02-19-2007, 05:41 PM
Why Not???
Seems to me the interest is there to support another "GP".
I will sign up if you have one.
+1000
BaadGoat2006
02-19-2007, 05:50 PM
Well seems there is quite a bit of interest in a GP. I assume I can buy another brand
speeddemon
02-19-2007, 05:57 PM
Well seems there is quite a bit of interest in a GP. I assume I can buy another brand
Hurst? :shiner:
ecetim
02-19-2007, 06:18 PM
Why Not???
Seems to me the interest is there to support another "GP".
I will sign up if you have one.I personally won't buy one till there is a GP ;)
tigertamer
02-20-2007, 01:16 AM
what a cop out .thanks for the support!seems to be more then enough interested just no interest from the sponsor.i'll wait !
speeddemon
02-20-2007, 01:30 AM
I personally won't buy one till there is a GP ;)
here here :judge:
ecetim
02-20-2007, 04:39 AM
what a cop out .thanks for the support!seems to be more then enough interested just no interest from the sponsor.i'll wait !I'm not trying to give a vendor crap, but the GMM's are very expensive. The reason is mostly because they have a strangle-hold on the performance shifter market and can charge that much money; I'm sure materials costs are sizeable, but it's also not $300+. I can't say I blame them for charging such a high price, but clearly if there are lots of people on these boards that don't have GMM's, that alone is enough reason to have a GOOD GP.
:bunny:
woodnutz
02-20-2007, 08:28 AM
+10000000000
1INSANEGTO
02-20-2007, 10:39 AM
I will not buy one till the price drops. *waits with cash in hand*
fat nick
02-20-2007, 01:54 PM
Ha. I'm not an idiot. An idiot pays retail.
tigertamer
02-20-2007, 05:48 PM
it's kinda funny that we have not seen one post from jhp other then there stateside counterpart to anknowledge our request for a gp!! i quess there just to busy!!
speeddemon
02-20-2007, 08:50 PM
yeah I know......how can they say no when there are almost 20-30 of us with cash in hand?
1INSANEGTO
02-21-2007, 03:37 AM
Ttt
huskergto
02-21-2007, 12:10 PM
I agree....booooo on the no-JHP group purchase, there's gotta be at least 20 or 30 interested this time around. Any word from Don "pod god".... i.e. online coupon for $$$ off? :)
speeddemon
02-21-2007, 12:44 PM
I wonder what price we are looking at for a GP....probally less than $300 I hope :gr_jest:
fuzzybam
02-21-2007, 09:39 PM
Weird, I contacted JHP and haven't heard anything back from them :(
95Formula
02-22-2007, 08:58 AM
well, im definately down for a GP on a RACE shifter. JHP...GET OFF YOUR ASSES AND MAKE IT HAPPEN!!! :mad:
Gilty1
02-22-2007, 01:47 PM
I also have cash in hand but I will wait for a GP.
LS2Greg
02-22-2007, 01:52 PM
I'm going to start a list. If we get organized then maybe we can just go to them with the list and get a concrete price. Just add your name and if you want a street or race version.
1. LS2Greg - Street
fuzzybam
02-22-2007, 02:11 PM
I'm going to start a list. If we get organized then maybe we can just go to them with the list and get a concrete price. Just add your name and if you want a street or race version.
1. LS2Greg - Street
2. fuzzybam - Street
BaadGoat2006
02-22-2007, 02:50 PM
2. baadgoat2006 - race
JUDGETHIS06
02-22-2007, 03:49 PM
3. Judgethis06- Race
ecetim
02-22-2007, 04:39 PM
4. ecetim - Street Only if the price is right!
tigertamer
02-22-2007, 04:47 PM
I'm going to start a list. If we get organized then maybe we can just go to them with the list and get a concrete price. Just add your name and if you want a street or race version.
1. LS2Greg - Street
5.tigertamer- street
speeddemon
02-22-2007, 05:40 PM
6.speeddemon-race
QSGTO
02-22-2007, 05:48 PM
7. QSGTO - Race
nailbomb
02-22-2007, 06:07 PM
8. Nailhead76
i'm good for this. probably race..need to get it by 4/1/07 preferably
everett
02-22-2007, 06:08 PM
ill take a race version
95Formula
02-22-2007, 07:11 PM
10. 95Formula-Race version FTMFW!!!
speeddemon
02-22-2007, 08:48 PM
got another taker
11.Hotrodkush-Race
Farsighted770
02-22-2007, 08:59 PM
The numbers got messed up but im gonna do this to try and get a big picture of how many we really got... i say just quote my list and add your name to it so we can see where we're at. hopefully JHP + GMM will get the hint... i NEED a new shifter :D
1. LS2Greg - Street
2. fuzzybam - Street
3. baadgoat2006 - Race
4. Judgethis06 - Race
5. ecetim - Street
6. tigertamer - Street
7. speeddemon - Race
8. QSGTO - Race
9. Nailhead76 - Race
10. everett - Race
11. 95Formula - Race
12. Hotrodkush - Race
13. Farsighted770 - Street
speeddemon
02-22-2007, 09:51 PM
if we get to 20 then JHP would be stupid to ignore us!
1INSANEGTO
02-23-2007, 03:59 AM
1. LS2Greg - Street
2. fuzzybam - Street
3. baadgoat2006 - Race
4. Judgethis06 - Race
5. ecetim - Street
6. tigertamer - Street
7. speeddemon - Race
8. QSGTO - Race
9. Nailhead76 - Race
10. everett - Race
11. 95Formula - Race
12. Hotrodkush - Race
13. Farsighted770 - Street
14. 1INSANEGTO- Race
BaadGoat2006
02-23-2007, 04:45 AM
if we get to 20 then JHP would be stupid to ignore us!
kinda what i thought too.
EllisJuan
02-23-2007, 06:31 AM
this thread makes me lol
nailbomb
02-23-2007, 07:59 AM
has anyone actually contact JHP or their distributor. This thread is in the "parts for sale section" maybe they have not checked it yet.
Gilty1
02-23-2007, 08:11 AM
1. Gilty1 - Race(Cash in hand if the price is right)
zervun
02-23-2007, 09:43 AM
1. LS2Greg - Street
2. fuzzybam - Street
3. baadgoat2006 - Race
4. Judgethis06 - Race
5. ecetim - Street
6. tigertamer - Street
7. speeddemon - Race
8. QSGTO - Race
9. Nailhead76 - Race
10. everett - Race
11. 95Formula - Race
12. Hotrodkush - Race
13. Farsighted770 - Street
14. 1INSANEGTO- Race
15. zervun- Race
Race Race
365ciGTO
02-23-2007, 09:56 AM
I did put my name too!
365ciGTO:Street
ecetim
02-23-2007, 10:31 AM
I'm going to start a list. If we get organized then maybe we can just go to them with the list and get a concrete price. Just add your name and if you want a street or race version.
1. LS2Greg - StreetYou should start a new post in the Vendor advertisement section with this list. I'd do it for you, but I don't have the time to manage it right now ;)
1INSANEGTO
02-23-2007, 10:58 AM
1. LS2Greg - Street
2. fuzzybam - Street
3. baadgoat2006 - Race
4. Judgethis06 - Race
5. ecetim - Street
6. tigertamer - Street
7. speeddemon - Race
8. QSGTO - Race
9. Nailhead76 - Race
10. everett - Race
11. 95Formula - Race
12. Hotrodkush - Race
13. Farsighted770 - Street
14. 1INSANEGTO- Race
15. zervun- Race
16. Gilty1 - Race
17. 365ciGTO:Street
Farsighted770
02-23-2007, 11:05 AM
Updated list
1. LS2Greg - Street
2. fuzzybam - Street
3. baadgoat2006 - Race
4. Judgethis06 - Race
5. ecetim - Street
6. tigertamer - Street
7. speeddemon - Race
8. QSGTO - Race
9. Nailhead76 - Race
10. everett - Race
11. 95Formula - Race
12. Hotrodkush - Race
13. Farsighted770 - Street
14. 1INSANEGTO- Race
15. zevrun - race
16. gilty1 - race
17. 365ciGTO - Street
365ciGTO
02-23-2007, 11:51 AM
Thank You, now let cross the fingers!
jsalvato1
02-23-2007, 12:22 PM
Updated list
1. LS2Greg - Street
2. fuzzybam - Street
3. baadgoat2006 - Race
4. Judgethis06 - Race
5. ecetim - Street
6. tigertamer - Street
7. speeddemon - Race
8. QSGTO - Race
9. Nailhead76 - Race
10. everett - Race
11. 95Formula - Race
12. Hotrodkush - Race
13. Farsighted770 - Street
14. 1INSANEGTO- Race
15. zevrun - race
16. gilty1 - race
17. 365ciGTO - Street
18. jsalvato1 - Race
woodnutz
02-23-2007, 12:59 PM
add me for a street version.
speeddemon
02-23-2007, 01:29 PM
1. LS2Greg - Street
2. fuzzybam - Street
3. baadgoat2006 - Race
4. Judgethis06 - Race
5. ecetim - Street
6. tigertamer - Street
7. speeddemon - Race
8. QSGTO - Race
9. Nailhead76 - Race
10. everett - Race
11. 95Formula - Race
12. Hotrodkush - Race
13. Farsighted770 - Street
14. 1INSANEGTO- Race
15. zevrun - race
16. gilty1 - race
17. 365ciGTO - Street
18. jsalvato1 - Race
19. woodnutz - Street
ecetim
02-23-2007, 03:37 PM
Give it a little time and we'll hit 30. Ought to be a good discount there
tigertamer
02-23-2007, 05:38 PM
come on jhp get with it !make some money and alot of goat owners happy!i sent a email and they replied that they had no intention on a gp, but maybe with this list they will get the hint!!
Farsighted770
02-23-2007, 07:42 PM
come on jhp get with it !make some money and alot of goat owners happy!i sent a email and they replied that they had no intention on a gp, but maybe with this list they will get the hint!!
how long ago you send the email? if we sent at 20 and they say no than we can send at 30... than 40 if we are that patient... im having trouble being patient, lol anyway, this all may be for nothing, but it certainly doesnt hurt to try, and it is most definitely in their best interest to do one... least thats my thinkin.
ecetim
02-23-2007, 07:56 PM
how long ago you send the email? if we sent at 20 and they say no than we can send at 30... than 40 if we are that patient... im having trouble being patient, lol anyway, this all may be for nothing, but it certainly doesnt hurt to try, and it is most definitely in their best interest to do one... least thats my thinkin.If they ignore this, it tells me they're more interested in profit than customers. In that case, I won't ever buy a GMM. I'll get a B&M for under half the price and get it installed properly despite the poor engineering. Or I'll keep the stock shifter. But I won't buy a GMM.
EDIT - Unless it's used ;)
04RAREREDGTO
02-23-2007, 09:39 PM
1. LS2Greg - Street
2. fuzzybam - Street
3. baadgoat2006 - Race
4. Judgethis06 - Race
5. ecetim - Street
6. tigertamer - Street
7. speeddemon - Race
8. QSGTO - Race
9. Nailhead76 - Race
10. everett - Race
11. 95Formula - Race
12. Hotrodkush - Race
13. Farsighted770 - Street
14. 1INSANEGTO- Race
15. zevrun - race
16. gilty1 - race
17. 365ciGTO - Street
18. jsalvato1 - Race
19. woodnutz - Street
20. 04rareredgto - Street
I'm down, cash in hand as well
Knightmare
02-23-2007, 10:01 PM
1. LS2Greg - Street
2. fuzzybam - Street
3. baadgoat2006 - Race
4. Judgethis06 - Race
5. ecetim - Street
6. tigertamer - Street
7. speeddemon - Race
8. QSGTO - Race
9. Nailhead76 - Race
10. everett - Race
11. 95Formula - Race
12. Hotrodkush - Race
13. Farsighted770 - Street
14. 1INSANEGTO- Race
15. zevrun - race
16. gilty1 - race
17. 365ciGTO - Street
18. jsalvato1 - Race
19. woodnutz - Street
20. 04rareredgto - Street
21. Knightmare - race
puredrive
02-23-2007, 10:18 PM
1. LS2Greg - Street
2. fuzzybam - Street
3. baadgoat2006 - Race
4. Judgethis06 - Race
5. ecetim - Street
6. tigertamer - Street
7. speeddemon - Race
8. QSGTO - Race
9. Nailhead76 - Race
10. everett - Race
11. 95Formula - Race
12. Hotrodkush - Race
13. Farsighted770 - Street
14. 1INSANEGTO- Race
15. zevrun - race
16. gilty1 - race
17. 365ciGTO - Street
18. jsalvato1 - Race
19. woodnutz - Street
20. 04rareredgto - Street
21. Knightmare - race
22.puredrive-street
GP price!!!!!!
puredrive
02-23-2007, 10:20 PM
this has to be the most expensive shifter ever...I thought that vag cars were expensive too mod..but damn this shifter better be damn good...
No One buy a shifter
We are on Strike!!!:bubbrub
tigertamer
02-24-2007, 01:18 AM
i sent a email about two weeks ago and cyclonegoat2005 is there u.s. distributor and said that there was not intention at that timef or a gp.wow what a list for a group purchase now! i cant understand why we haven't heard any reply from jhp other then there just not interested??
fuzzybam
02-24-2007, 01:18 AM
this has to be the most expensive shifter ever...I thought that vag cars were expensive too mod..but damn this shifter better be damn good...
No One buy a shifter
We are on Strike!!!:bubbrub
VAG cars expensive to mod? Man, I loved how cheap it was to mod my GTi, at least compared to this GTO. lol
longhornbsbll15
02-24-2007, 09:59 AM
1. LS2Greg - Street
2. fuzzybam - Street
3. baadgoat2006 - Race
4. Judgethis06 - Race
5. ecetim - Street
6. tigertamer - Street
7. speeddemon - Race
8. QSGTO - Race
9. Nailhead76 - Race
10. everett - Race
11. 95Formula - Race
12. Hotrodkush - Race
13. Farsighted770 - Street
14. 1INSANEGTO- Race
15. zevrun - race
16. gilty1 - race
17. 365ciGTO - Street
18. jsalvato1 - Race
19. woodnutz - Street
20. 04rareredgto - Street
21. Knightmare - race
22.puredrive-street
23.longhornbsbll15-RACE!
GP price!!!!!!
nomorefwd
02-24-2007, 03:19 PM
If it's a good price I would be in. I am not going to pay $300 for a shifter.
Added myself to the list if this happens.
1. LS2Greg - Street
2. fuzzybam - Street
3. baadgoat2006 - Race
4. Judgethis06 - Race
5. ecetim - Street
6. tigertamer - Street
7. speeddemon - Race
8. QSGTO - Race
9. Nailhead76 - Race
10. everett - Race
11. 95Formula - Race
12. Hotrodkush - Race
13. Farsighted770 - Street
14. 1INSANEGTO- Race
15. zevrun - race
16. gilty1 - race
17. 365ciGTO - Street
18. jsalvato1 - Race
19. woodnutz - Street
20. 04rareredgto - Street
21. Knightmare - race
22.puredrive-street
23.longhornbsbll15-RACE!
24.Deak - Street
TurboDonnie
02-24-2007, 06:27 PM
Count me in too. New owner here, just bought my 04 Barbados Blue m6 last Saturday, and I'm ready for this shifter!! Glad to be here.
1. LS2Greg - Street
2. fuzzybam - Street
3. baadgoat2006 - Race
4. Judgethis06 - Race
5. ecetim - Street
6. tigertamer - Street
7. speeddemon - Race
8. QSGTO - Race
9. Nailhead76 - Race
10. everett - Race
11. 95Formula - Race
12. Hotrodkush - Race
13. Farsighted770 - Street
14. 1INSANEGTO- Race
15. zevrun - race
16. gilty1 - race
17. 365ciGTO - Street
18. jsalvato1 - Race
19. woodnutz - Street
20. 04rareredgto - Street
21. Knightmare - race
22.puredrive-street
23.longhornbsbll15-RACE!
24.Deak - Street
25. TurboDonnie - race
Farsighted770
02-24-2007, 07:30 PM
1. LS2Greg - Street
2. fuzzybam - Street
3. baadgoat2006 - Race
4. Judgethis06 - Race
5. ecetim - Street
6. tigertamer - Street
7. speeddemon - Race
8. QSGTO - Race
9. Nailhead76 - Race
10. everett - Race
11. 95Formula - Race
12. Hotrodkush - Race
13. Farsighted770 - Street
14. 1INSANEGTO- Race
15. zevrun - race
16. gilty1 - race
17. 365ciGTO - Street
18. jsalvato1 - Race
19. woodnutz - Street
20. 04rareredgto - Street
21. Knightmare - race
22.puredrive-street
23.longhornbsbll15-RACE!
24.Deak - Street
25. TurboDonnie - race
26. nomorefwd - ?
if your interested add your name to the list... we want something we can take to JHP to get a good price, the more names the more likely the chances of a GP :D least i hope
speeddemon
02-24-2007, 07:48 PM
damn we have one hell of a list....lets get to 40!!! :D
cjmatt
02-24-2007, 08:58 PM
1. LS2Greg - Street
2. fuzzybam - Street
3. baadgoat2006 - Race
4. Judgethis06 - Race
5. ecetim - Street
6. tigertamer - Street
7. speeddemon - Race
8. QSGTO - Race
9. Nailhead76 - Race
10. everett - Race
11. 95Formula - Race
12. Hotrodkush - Race
13. Farsighted770 - Street
14. 1INSANEGTO- Race
15. zevrun - race
16. gilty1 - race
17. 365ciGTO - Street
18. jsalvato1 - Race
19. woodnutz - Street
20. 04rareredgto - Street
21. Knightmare - race
22.puredrive-street
23.longhornbsbll15-RACE!
24.Deak - Street
25. TurboDonnie - race
26. nomorefwd - ?
27. cjmatt - street
1. LS2Greg - Street
2. fuzzybam - Street
3. baadgoat2006 - Race
4. Judgethis06 - Race
5. ecetim - Street
6. tigertamer - Street
7. speeddemon - Race
8. QSGTO - Race
9. Nailhead76 - Race
10. everett - Race
11. 95Formula - Race
12. Hotrodkush - Race
13. Farsighted770 - Street
14. 1INSANEGTO- Race
15. zevrun - race
16. gilty1 - race
17. 365ciGTO - Street
18. jsalvato1 - Race
19. woodnutz - Street
20. 04rareredgto - Street
21. Knightmare - race
22.puredrive-street
23.longhornbsbll15-RACE!
24.Deak - Street
25. TurboDonnie - race
26. nomorefwd - ?
27. cjmatt - street
28. Rada - street
kmaro
02-24-2007, 10:12 PM
1. LS2Greg - Street
2. fuzzybam - Street
3. baadgoat2006 - Race
4. Judgethis06 - Race
5. ecetim - Street
6. tigertamer - Street
7. speeddemon - Race
8. QSGTO - Race
9. Nailhead76 - Race
10. everett - Race
11. 95Formula - Race
12. Hotrodkush - Race
13. Farsighted770 - Street
14. 1INSANEGTO- Race
15. zevrun - race
16. gilty1 - race
17. 365ciGTO - Street
18. jsalvato1 - Race
19. woodnutz - Street
20. 04rareredgto - Street
21. Knightmare - race
22.puredrive-street
23.longhornbsbll15-RACE!
24.Deak - Street
25. TurboDonnie - race
26. nomorefwd - ?
27. cjmatt - street
28. Rada - street
29. Kmaro - Race
speeddemon
02-25-2007, 12:46 AM
11 more! :D :D :D
Farsighted770
02-25-2007, 01:16 AM
damn we have one hell of a list....lets get to 40!!! :D
remember that thing i said about patience, lol...
but seriously though, if we get up that high and they dont feel a GP is in their best interest than i will feel a different shifter will be in mine... i may even wait for the hurst, if that says anything.
MintGTO
02-25-2007, 06:50 AM
1. LS2Greg - Street
2. fuzzybam - Street
3. baadgoat2006 - Race
4. Judgethis06 - Race
5. ecetim - Street
6. tigertamer - Street
7. speeddemon - Race
8. QSGTO - Race
9. Nailhead76 - Race
10. everett - Race
11. 95Formula - Race
12. Hotrodkush - Race
13. Farsighted770 - Street
14. 1INSANEGTO- Race
15. zevrun - race
16. gilty1 - race
17. 365ciGTO - Street
18. jsalvato1 - Race
19. woodnutz - Street
20. 04rareredgto - Street
21. Knightmare - race
22.puredrive-street
23.longhornbsbll15-RACE!
24.Deak - Street
25. TurboDonnie - race
26. nomorefwd - ?
27. cjmatt - street
28. Rada - street
29. Kmaro - Race
30. MinGTO - Race
fat nick
02-25-2007, 07:29 AM
1. LS2Greg - Street
2. fuzzybam - Street
3. baadgoat2006 - Race
4. Judgethis06 - Race
5. ecetim - Street
6. tigertamer - Street
7. speeddemon - Race
8. QSGTO - Race
9. Nailhead76 - Race
10. everett - Race
11. 95Formula - Race
12. Hotrodkush - Race
13. Farsighted770 - Street
14. 1INSANEGTO- Race
15. zevrun - race
16. gilty1 - race
17. 365ciGTO - Street
18. jsalvato1 - Race
19. woodnutz - Street
20. 04rareredgto - Street
21. Knightmare - race
22.puredrive-street
23.longhornbsbll15-RACE!
24.Deak - Street
25. TurboDonnie - race
26. nomorefwd - ?
27. cjmatt - street
28. Rada - street
29. Kmaro - Race
30. MinGTO - Race
31. Fat Nick- Street for LSS
tigertamer
02-25-2007, 07:44 AM
wow !!!!up to 31 for gp! come on jhp or cyclone05gto let's get this going!! i wonder if speed inc. might be interested(i see they carry the race version's)?!
anyone else try emailing jhp?!
tigertamer
02-25-2007, 07:57 AM
imho
i feel jhp does not want to do a gp because it would cut into there profit. the gp price really only saved us money on shipping from austrilia and now that they have stock in the u.s. with cyclone being one of there distributor's they don't need to discount the shifters and cut into there profit's. on other gp they where just saving us money on shipping.
thanks for the support mate's!
puredrive
02-25-2007, 08:11 AM
Have they ever done a GB? I'm new to the forum so I don't really know. But I think if all of us can wait. and they see that we are not budging then we got a shot.
fat nick
02-25-2007, 08:13 AM
Well it's now or never imo. If they can't see 31+ definate sells to knock a few bucks off then they never will see a penny from me.
tigertamer
02-25-2007, 09:34 AM
they did one a few months back for the street,looks like they have enough to do other if they wish too.
fat nick i feel the same.
kmaro
02-25-2007, 10:17 AM
attn vendors:
~35 orders * ~275 = $10,000
come on who wants some pocket change? lets move some inventory!!
ecetim
02-25-2007, 11:25 AM
This needs a new thread titled "Attention JHP: GMM Group Buy or Bust"
I would start it myself, but I cannot keep the list updated. Someone volunteer? :)
tigertamer
02-25-2007, 04:16 PM
how do you move a thread? can a moderator do this for us?i would track it but iam new to this web site stuff.
Knightmare
02-25-2007, 04:18 PM
just start a new thread in this forum, titled something like "HEY JHP, PLEASE TAKE OUR MONEY IN RETURN FOR GMM RIP SHIFTERS!" and paste the list we have so far into the first post, then update it anytime anyone else adds their name. I would but I don't have enough posts yet...
tigertamer
02-25-2007, 05:30 PM
Ok I Moved This Into Group Purchase Asking Jhp To Respond With A Yes Or No, So Add Your Name To The Post In Group Purchases Thread.
speeddemon
02-25-2007, 06:37 PM
posted :D
tigertamer
02-26-2007, 01:38 AM
bump!!
DevilYellow
02-26-2007, 03:01 AM
but the GMM's are very expensive.
You do realize the GMM ripshift was $450 US 2 years ago, right? Prices went down as production went up - at $300 it's worth it.
Black Devil
02-26-2007, 03:08 AM
I was happy paying $310 for my race version.
1INSANEGTO
02-26-2007, 03:18 AM
come on jhp get with it !make some money and alot of goat owners happy!i sent a email and they replied that they had no intention on a gp, but maybe with this list they will get the hint!!
We all need to hold are guns and stick togethere. Thats the only way we are going to get vendors to drop there already insane prices.
huskergto
02-26-2007, 05:56 AM
1. LS2Greg - Street
2. fuzzybam - Street
3. baadgoat2006 - Race
4. Judgethis06 - Race
5. ecetim - Street
6. tigertamer - Street
7. speeddemon - Race
8. QSGTO - Race
9. Nailhead76 - Race
10. everett - Race
11. 95Formula - Race
12. Hotrodkush - Race
13. Farsighted770 - Street
14. 1INSANEGTO- Race
15. zevrun - race
16. gilty1 - race
17. 365ciGTO - Street
18. jsalvato1 - Race
19. woodnutz - Street
20. 04rareredgto - Street
21. Knightmare - race
22.puredrive-street
23.longhornbsbll15-RACE!
24.Deak - Street
25. TurboDonnie - race
26. nomorefwd - ?
27. cjmatt - street
28. Rada - street
29. Kmaro - Race
30. MinGTO - Race
31. Fat Nick- Street for LSS
32. HuskerGTO - RACE
I'm in if we can get it below $300.
ecetim
02-26-2007, 06:00 AM
There was another thread started asking for a GP, but it was locked. Funny how other threads asking for a GP haven't been locked.
Nothing funny about that. The group purchase thread is for sponsors. The threads in that section are supposed to be generated and approved by sponsors.
And the answer was given on page 2. I’m surprised you guys keep going…
We did a "GP" on the GMM's about 4 months ago and I would like to thank all of you that participated in the "GP". As of right now there are no plans to run another special at this time.
Thanks for support
DP/JHP
ecetim
02-26-2007, 06:21 AM
Nothing funny about that. The group purchase thread is for sponsors. The threads in that section are supposed to be generated and approved by sponsors.
And the answer was given on page 2. I’m surprised you guys keep going…I've seen user-generated threads in some part of the For Sale sub-forum asking for group purchases - whether they are successful or not I don't remember - but this one gets locked. That was a mistake by the mods IMO. This is a push to get JHP to offer a GP on their expensive product, the one that they temporarily have a stranglehold on the market with. There's almost 30 people who want to buy one at a reasonable discount, but they won't do it. Notice they also haven't responded in this thread since. If a vendor here wasn't charging out the ass and making loads of profit on their product, they would have come back and said something along the lines of "We'd love to offer product for $XXX, but we already try to offer a great price and realistically only make $X or X% as it is. Thanks for your support and interest." Did they do that? No. Why didn't they do that? They're making money hand over fist, just like Pedders with cradle alignments. Why would they want to stop?
puredrive
02-26-2007, 06:54 AM
I've seen user-generated threads in some part of the For Sale sub-forum asking for group purchases - whether they are successful or not I don't remember - but this one gets locked. That was a mistake by the mods IMO. This is a push to get JHP to offer a GP on their expensive product, the one that they temporarily have a stranglehold on the market with. There's almost 30 people who want to buy one at a reasonable discount, but they won't do it. Notice they also haven't responded in this thread since. If a vendor here wasn't charging out the ass and making loads of profit on their product, they would have come back and said something along the lines of "We'd love to offer product for $XXX, but we already try to offer a great price and realistically only make $X or X% as it is. Thanks for your support and interest." Did they do that? No. Why didn't they do that? They're making money hand over fist, just like Pedders with cradle alignments. Why would they want to stop?
Then all of us can wait till the next GB. as simple as that. I know I am. :wiggle:
its not a mod that I trully need right away. So I am willing to wait.:D
ecetim
02-26-2007, 07:50 AM
Then all of us can wait till the next GB. as simple as that. I know I am. :wiggle:
its not a mod that I trully need right away. So I am willing to wait.:DMy point is that a company truly out for its customers would either (A) address the customers' requests with something other than canned BS or (B) give the customers what they want. By doing neither, JHP is showing who they are out for. No conspiracy theory, no anger, no preaching - it is plain and simple truth.
1INSANEGTO
02-26-2007, 08:02 AM
Wow someone who thinks like I do.
+1 for getting raped by over priced parts.
Monaro@JHP
02-26-2007, 08:23 AM
The plain and simple truth – we answered the request already in post 46
Also the truth is - below 300 is unreasonable/unprofitable price
And to answer your question one more time – we are not planning give away GMM rip shifters any time soon. We don’t make up pricing; it is based on the production cost
http://www.ls7gto.com/forums/showpost.php?p=226836 1&postcount=46
My point is that a company truly out for its customers would either (A) address the customers' requests with something other than canned BS or (B) give the customers what they want. By doing neither, JHP is showing who they are out for. No conspiracy theory, no anger, no preaching - it is plain and simple truth.
ecetim
02-26-2007, 08:35 AM
The plain and simple truth – we answered the request already in post 46
Also the truth is - below 300 is unreasonable/unprofitable price
And to answer your question one more time – we are not planning give away GMM rip shifters any time soon. We don’t make up pricing; it is based on the production cost
http://www.ls7gto.com/forums/showpost.php?p=226836 1&postcount=46Thanks for finally taking the time to address people's concerns.
Nobody accused you of making up pricing, just charging a lot for it due to the fact that a good shifter for the GTO doesn't really exist except for yours. If the Hurst comes out at a lower price point and everybody says it is equal to or better than the GMM, will there suddenly be a price drop?
I'm really not bitching at you with this, but it surprises me how poorly some companies on this board manage their relationships with customers. TByrne, PrecisionMotorsports, & MarylandSpeed seem to be on the right track. They listen to what their customers want, and do it. Again, not going after you, they are distributors and you are a manufacturer, totally different scenario. But just disappointing how much potential there is and businesses don't use it.
Knightmare
02-26-2007, 08:43 AM
I can agree with that, but also, you have a certain profit margin you make off each shifter. With close to 40 people wanting a shifter, it would seem like you might be willing to cut into that profit margin slightly to make these sales. Considering that some/most of us won't buy one otherwise. Unfortunately you guys have already taken a stand on the issue so I guess it's time to look elsewhere.
chupacabra
02-26-2007, 08:53 AM
:ohsnap1: I just called in and ordered my GMM Race, thanks Don!
1INSANEGTO
02-26-2007, 09:55 AM
I would like to know how this is different then the Pro 5.0? Looks like I will be making that work:)
Monaro@JHP
02-26-2007, 10:03 AM
If the Hurst comes out at a lower price point and everybody says it is equal to or better than the GMM, will there suddenly be a price drop?
I’ve seen that shifter and unless they’ve changed something for the final production, GMM won’t have to worry about a thing in my opinion. And also it will be up to GMM to decide if they want to lower production price.
puredrive
02-26-2007, 10:44 AM
:ohsnap1: I just called in and ordered my GMM Race, thanks Don!
Good for you..
I personally are going to hold off on an purchase. I am a bargaing shopper:burnout:
My corsa just get in today & I'll be ordering a LPE tonight then.
if they decide to do GB then I will be buying then.
LS2Greg
02-26-2007, 12:07 PM
This is BS. We have well over 30 people with the $ ready to purchase and they won't even give us any kind of discount. As a marketing director AND as the consumer here, I have to say that is TERRIBLE sales management. Everyone on here looks out for each other, speaks about what products work well and what is junk, what to buy and what not to buy and is a great place for spreading and learning knowledge. Knowing this and that you have a significant amount of people on here willing to buy your product that we all know is a good product, and you turn us down. That is just poor sales etiquette.
I'm sorry but this just had to be said. I am SURE more people will continue to add their name to the list. I wonder if you will answer the call of your CUSTOMERS...
ecetim
02-26-2007, 12:18 PM
This is BS. We have well over 30 people with the $ ready to purchase and they won't even give us any kind of discount. As a marketing director AND as the consumer here, I have to say that is TERRIBLE sales management. Everyone on here looks out for each other, speaks about what products work well and what is junk, what to buy and what not to buy and is a great place for spreading and learning knowledge. Knowing this and that you have a significant amount of people on here willing to buy your product that we all know is a good product, and you turn us down. That is just poor sales etiquette.
I'm sorry but this just had to be said. I am SURE more people will continue to add their name to the list. I wonder if you will answer the call of your CUSTOMERS...:ftw: :-patriot: :thumbs: :attachment:
COUPE 4
02-26-2007, 01:43 PM
[QUOTE=Monaro@JHP;2293745]The plain and simple truth – we answered the request already in post 46
Also the truth is - below 300 is unreasonable/unprofitable price
OK, we get the message, you guys want a GP on the GMM Rip shifter !, it was only 4.5 months ago we did the last GP.
If we get 30 + confirmed orders we can start a GP and ship 2nd or 3rd week March (delivery 4-7 days).
The GP will finish 30 March 11.59 pm, any order after will be normal price.
Street GP = $315 delivered
Race GP = $300 delivered
optional shipping insurance $10
*JHP highly recommends the "street" shifter for a daily driver GTO.
If you would like to place an order: list "street GP" or "race GP"
http://www.jhp.com.au/order-form-main.php
fuzzybam
02-26-2007, 02:02 PM
[QUOTE=Monaro@JHP;2293745]The plain and simple truth – we answered the request already in post 46
Also the truth is - below 300 is unreasonable/unprofitable price
OK, we get the message, you guys want a GP on the GMM Rip shifter !, it was only 4.5 months ago we did the last GP.
If we get 30 + confirmed orders we can start a GP and ship 2nd or 3rd week March (delivery 4-7 days).
The GP will finish 30 March 11.59 pm, any order after will be normal price.
Street GP = $315 delivered
Race GP = $300 delivered
optional shipping insurance $10
*JHP highly recommends the "street" shifter for a daily driver GTO.
If you would like to place an order: list "street GP" or "race GP"
http://www.jhp.com.au/order-form-main.php
I JUST finished ordering mine and I didn't see this :(. Can I be put on that list?
COUPE 4
02-26-2007, 02:18 PM
[QUOTE=COUPE 4;2295036]
I JUST finished ordering mine and I didn't see this :(. Can I be put on that list?
Yes you can be added to the GP list as long as your order hasnt been shipped already.
Dont forget the GP shifters wont be shipped until the 2nd - 3rd week of March.
If you would like to place an order: list "street GP" or "race GP"
http://www.jhp.com.au/order-form-main.php
CycloneGoat2005
02-26-2007, 03:59 PM
imho
i feel jhp does not want to do a gp because it would cut into there profit. the gp price really only saved us money on shipping from austrilia and now that they have stock in the u.s. with cyclone being one of there distributor's they don't need to discount the shifters and cut into there profit's. on other gp they where just saving us money on shipping.
thanks for the support mate's!
ABSOLUTLEY NOT THE CASE! Yes the GMM's are stocked and shipped from my warehouse in New York. They are still purchased in Australia and then shipped to my location and then to point of destination. This actually cost us more $$$ to do this because we are now paying frieght +1 where as before we shipped direct to the customer and not to our warehouse first. This enables us to turn product around to the customer much faster now that it's stocked in the USA but cost JHP more to offer this service to it's customers.
DP/JHP
jpr278
02-26-2007, 04:01 PM
Just placed my order for a street shifter. Thanks to JHP and everyone who made this GP happen. After 48k miles it'll be nice to finally have a real shifter.
LS2Greg
02-26-2007, 04:03 PM
Well, it seems that they hear us fellas! I am glad to hear you guys (JHP) listen to the customer. Thanks! I'm placing my order as I type...
Oh yea...Street GP FTMFW
ecetim
02-26-2007, 04:05 PM
Well, it seems that they hear us fellas! I am glad to hear you guys (JHP) listen to the customer. I'm placing my order as I type...Here here! :wiggle:
Thanks for taking the time to address our concerns guys. That's the sign of a good vendor that I was looking for ;)
When is the last day we can sign up for the GP?
Farsighted770
02-26-2007, 04:20 PM
awesome! when i get on my home computer i will definitely be ordering this... thank you for appreciating us. :D this is exactly why i do business with sponsers we ask you listen :D!
LS2 tiger
02-26-2007, 04:48 PM
Well I think I got my order in on the GP. I just followed their instructions.:D If this is all it's cracked up to be I'll be in shift heaven!:wiggle:
BOB.
tigertamer
02-26-2007, 05:46 PM
yes!! just ordered mine!!!! now let's not let this go to waste jhp is cutting us a break so everyone on the list jump in!
thanks to all at jhp for making this happen!!
CycloneGoat2005
02-26-2007, 05:46 PM
imho
i feel jhp does not want to do a gp because it would cut into there profit. the gp price really only saved us money on shipping from austrilia and now that they have stock in the u.s. with cyclone being one of there distributor's they don't need to discount the shifters and cut into there profit's. on other gp they where just saving us money on shipping.
thanks for the support mate's!
ABSOLUTLEY NOT THE CASE! Yes the GMM's are stocked and shipped from my warehouse in New York. They are still purchased in Australia and then shipped to my location and then to point of destination. This actually cost us more $$$ to do this because we are now paying frieght +1 where as before we shipped direct to the customer and not to our warehouse first. This enables us to turn product around to the customer much faster now that it's stocked in the USA but cost JHP more to offer this service to it's customers.
DP/JHP
nailbomb
02-26-2007, 05:46 PM
just placed order with JHP online for "street" version. can't wait.
tigertamer
02-26-2007, 05:57 PM
hey cyclone like i said it was just my opinion.if that is the case i stand corrected.
puredrive
02-26-2007, 06:13 PM
when will the CC get charged? on the shipping date..correct?
LS2Greg
02-26-2007, 07:18 PM
Anyone near the Los Angeles area that is buying the GMM, check out this thread:
http://www.ls2gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1393 41
COUPE 4
02-26-2007, 09:59 PM
Here here! :wiggle:
Thanks for taking the time to address our concerns guys. That's the sign of a good vendor that I was looking for ;)
When is the last day we can sign up for the GP?
The very last day for the GP price is 30th March 2007.
when will the CC get charged? on the shipping date..correct?
Your credit card will be charged when the goods ship
speeddemon
02-26-2007, 11:08 PM
crap I dont have a credit card :banghead: (yes I know oldschool)
any other way I can pay you like paypal?
tigertamer
02-27-2007, 01:20 AM
we need 30 confirmed orders so everyone involed in the gmm ripshift add your name to the list when paid so we know when we met the required amount.
thanks
1. fuzzybam: paid
2. jpr278 : paid
3. ls2greg : paid
4. ls2tiger: paid
5. tigertamer: paid
6. nailhead: paid
fuzzybam
02-27-2007, 01:39 AM
crap I dont have a credit card :banghead: (yes I know oldschool)
any other way I can pay you like paypal?
Ask one of your friends to order the shifter for you and you give them cash...
Billy_Goat
02-27-2007, 02:25 AM
I got mine:wiggle: ! Yall need to :quoties: get yours:quoties: !!
1. fuzzybam: paid
2. jpr278 : paid
3. ls2greg : paid
4. ls2tiger: paid
5. tigertamer: paid
6. nailhead: paid
7.Billy_Goat: Paid
Thanks JHP!:aus_flag:
ecetim
02-27-2007, 04:42 AM
The very last day for the GP price is 30th March 2007.
when will the CC get charged? on the shipping date..correct?
Your credit card will be charged when the goods shipThanks! Quick question tho: you say previously that the shifters will ship 2nd-3rd week of March. How is that if the last day for the GP is March 30? Did you mean Feb 30?
1INSANEGTO
02-27-2007, 04:52 AM
Not to be a dick but $4 savings and have to wait to get it? And we have 30+ people?????? Speed Inc will get my bussiness sorry.
ecetim
02-27-2007, 04:59 AM
Not to be a dick but $4 savings and have to wait to get it? And we have 30+ people?????? Speed Inc will get my bussiness sorry.Can't say I disagree with you, but (A) the Street version has a bigger discount and (B) Race probably has less margin. My $0.02
Knightmare
02-27-2007, 07:49 AM
1. fuzzybam: paid
2. jpr278 : paid
3. ls2greg : paid
4. ls2tiger: paid
5. tigertamer: paid
6. nailhead: paid
7.Billy_Goat: Paid
8. Knightmare: Paid
1INSANEGTO
02-27-2007, 08:29 AM
I am working something on a deal with Speed Inc. I will get back to you, Also contacting GMM direct
jsalvato1
02-27-2007, 08:35 AM
Very interested in a deal can be worked out with Speed Inc. Just having a hard time choosing between the street or race version. Any input would be appreciated.
Knightmare
02-27-2007, 09:05 AM
I still haven't heard what the difference IS between the race and street, but I went with race because I don't mind it being louder inside the car.
LS2Greg
02-27-2007, 09:08 AM
Fellas, there are a LOT of good posts on here regarding the differences between the Street and Race. I too, wasn't certain and spent about 10 minutes searching and reading. Here's a post to help you out. I know it's from another site, but it has some really good info:
http://www.gtoforum.com/showthread.php?t=10625&referrerid=4946
95Formula
02-27-2007, 09:17 AM
ordering my race shifter on friday! woohoo! got a lot of stuff goin into my goat when i get home in april. cant freakin wait.
1INSANEGTO
02-27-2007, 09:22 AM
I still haven't heard what the difference IS between the race and street, but I went with race because I don't mind it being louder inside the car.
Well it was hard tracking this info down because I was told GMM did not have a website from a so called vendor here :wall: Check out there site he explains it all
GM Motorsport Australia
2 Nuspan Ct., Dept. GMHTP
Melton Victoria 3337
613/974 6656
www.gmmotorsport.com
Speed Inc. is suppose to work something out for us by contacting GMM. :wiggle:
LS2Greg
02-27-2007, 10:07 AM
Well it was hard tracking this info down because I was told GMM did not have a website from a so called vendor here :wall: Check out there site he explains it all
GM Motorsport Australia
2 Nuspan Ct., Dept. GMHTP
Melton Victoria 3337
613/974 6656
www.gmmotorsport.com
Speed Inc. is suppose to work something out for us by contacting GMM. :wiggle:
From what I gather, they only have 1 type of shifter. At least that is what is advertised on their site. And the REALLY annoying thing is it doesn't state whether it's the street or race version. Based on the price though, I would assume it's the race version. I even emailed them and they have yet to respond. Just for that I would rather go with JHP, but if the price is right I might reconsider. Keep us posted
GTO_Greg
02-27-2007, 10:24 AM
From what I gather, they only have 1 type of shifter. At least that is what is advertised on their site. And the REALLY annoying thing is it doesn't state whether it's the street or race version. Based on the price though, I would assume it's the race version. I even emailed them and they have yet to respond. Just for that I would rather go with JHP, but if the price is right I might reconsider. Keep us posted
From http://www.ripshift.com/rip_gto_street.html
"The differnce between the Street & Race version is the handle we supply,the Race handle is a one piece handle that takes the standard gearknob. The Street version is a handle that will accept your current rubber filled gearstick and knob. The Street handle is more suited to the noise conscious. The feel between the two is minimal depending on how soft the rubber is in your stock handle. Gear spacing and 2nd to 3rd feature remain the same."
LS2Greg
02-27-2007, 10:28 AM
From http://www.ripshift.com/rip_gto_street.html
"The differnce between the Street & Race version is the handle we supply,the Race handle is a one piece handle that takes the standard gearknob. The Street version is a handle that will accept your current rubber filled gearstick and knob. The Street handle is more suited to the noise conscious. The feel between the two is minimal depending on how soft the rubber is in your stock handle. Gear spacing and 2nd to 3rd feature remain the same."
Thanks for the info, however that was not my question. I stated that Speed Inc doesnt specify which version they are selling.
Knightmare
02-27-2007, 11:35 AM
yeah, I see the difference now. I don't understand why the street is MORE expensive, it sounds like you have to reuse your stock shifter shaft... Wouldn't that make it LESS expensive?
06Impulse
02-27-2007, 11:58 AM
speed inc sells the street version if you read the description carefully.
LS2Greg
02-27-2007, 12:14 PM
speed inc sells the street version if you read the description carefully.
You are right. Thanks for clarifying. I would assume, though, that shipping is more than $10. Therefore this GP is a better deal. Unless someone can contact Speed Inc for a discount, I'm not even gonna bother messing around to save a buck.
puredrive
02-27-2007, 12:31 PM
sumit it order for a street version:D
BUCKNERBUCK2
02-27-2007, 12:50 PM
I would be in on this, but for JHP to act like they are doing everyone a favor for 10k of revenue is rediculous. They were acting like arses until they seen how serious this thread was. I will get it from Speed inc. JUST so JHP doesn't see a dime from me!
LS2Greg
02-27-2007, 01:05 PM
I would be in on this, but for JHP to act like they are doing everyone a favor for 10k of revenue is rediculous. They were acting like arses until they seen how serious this thread was. I will get it from Speed inc. JUST so JHP doesn't see a dime from me!
interesting point. duely noted
ecetim
02-27-2007, 01:18 PM
Well it was hard tracking this info down because I was told GMM did not have a website from a so called vendor here :wall: Check out there site he explains it all
GM Motorsport Australia
2 Nuspan Ct., Dept. GMHTP
Melton Victoria 3337
613/974 6656
www.gmmotorsport.com
Speed Inc. is suppose to work something out for us by contacting GMM. :wiggle:Good man, let us know!
nomorefwd
02-27-2007, 02:15 PM
You are right. Thanks for clarifying. I would assume, though, that shipping is more than $10. Therefore this GP is a better deal. Unless someone can contact Speed Inc for a discount, I'm not even gonna bother messing around to save a buck.
Speed Inc has free shipping on orders over $100. I have dealt with them before, good guys.
LS2Greg
02-27-2007, 03:48 PM
Speed Inc has free shipping on orders over $100. I have dealt with them before, good guys.
Wow! No shit?!?! That means that even with the GP discount we are still paying more than Speed Inc is selling theirs!!!
ecetim
02-27-2007, 05:33 PM
Wow! No shit?!?! That means that even with the GP discount we are still paying more than Speed Inc is selling theirs!!!All too comical....maybe I spoke too soon :-off the
tigertamer
02-27-2007, 07:44 PM
speed inc. onley sells the race version and it is $309.00 and jhp gp is 300.00 shipped to your door.just place the order with jhp you save a little and they are doing the right thing with this gp.
Farsighted770
02-27-2007, 07:52 PM
add me to the paid list for street, bought it last night, YAY for GP...
LS2 tiger
02-27-2007, 07:59 PM
I am working something on a deal with Speed Inc. I will get back to you, Also contacting GMM directI see the points with what your doing but,.... I dont agree. JHP caved after much pressure yes. They did not have to and Speed Inc. also a vendor here could have jumped in at any time and offered a GP. They didnt and JHP, did Lets not try to make this into a vendor war over a few dollars.Those who dont want to get in on this GP for their own reasons can get the shifter else where. Those that are OK with the GP can get it here. I'm glad to see a vendor listen to their customers so I will support the vendor. I would also add that I'm not writing this to start anything just to stop somthing.:) Comeon guys BIG hug..... NO NOT LIKE THAT..! (perv)
BOB.
COUPE 4
02-27-2007, 09:43 PM
I see the points with what your doing but,.... I dont agree. JHP caved after much pressure yes. They did not have to and Speed Inc. also a vendor here could have jumped in at any time and offered a GP. They didnt and JHP, did Lets not try to make this into a vendor war over a few dollars.Those who dont want to get in on this GP for their own reasons can get the shifter else where. Those that are OK with the GP can get it here. I'm glad to see a vendor listen to their customers so I will support the vendor. I would also add that I'm not writing this to start anything just to stop somthing.:) Comeon guys BIG hug..... NO NOT LIKE THAT..! (perv)
BOB.
Thanks Bob.
Some forum menbers are happy to save a buck ($20 saving on a street & $9.00 on the race) and thats great. The GMM shifter is a great product and worth the $$, JHP dont have huge margins to discount this product and offer the GTO forum members what we can, this shifter was being sold for $450 almost 2 years ago.
JHP didnt want to offer another GP special on the GMM Rip shifter so soon after the last special (3.5 months ago), but we appreciate & listen to our customers, so we put an offer up of another GP.
After reading some posts about "JHP acting like arses"?? or "doing everyone a favor for 10K of revenue" , its no good doing 10K of sales and making zero profit or a loss, .... after all it was you guys who demanded the GP and we listened.
Yes, another vendor (speed inc) sell the "race" shifter for $309 and just like JHP, sponsor a great forum (well, most of the time) .
speeddemon
02-27-2007, 09:48 PM
You have a PM.
tigertamer
02-28-2007, 01:13 AM
last updated 02/28/07 0516
1. fuzzybam: paid
2. jpr278 : paid
3. ls2greg : paid
4. ls2tiger: paid
5. tigertamer: paid
6. nailhead: paid
7.Billy_Goat: Paid
8. Knightmare: Paid
9. farsighted770: paid
tigertamer
02-28-2007, 01:17 AM
coupe 4
i and many others truely appreciate the work your doing in bringing us this group purchase and where very happy with the customer support we receive from jhp. i can speak for myself in saying
thank you and i look forward to doing further bussiness with your company
thanks!!!!
COUPE 4
02-28-2007, 03:10 AM
coupe 4
i and many others truely appreciate the work your doing in bringing us this group purchase and where very happy with the customer support we receive from jhp. i can speak for myself in saying
thank you and i look forward to doing further bussiness with your company
thanks!!!!
Hey Tigertamer
Thanks for that, its great to work with good bunch of fellow GTO owners (you cant keep everyone happy).
JHP are holding 12 confirmed orders, 3 waiting for credit card info.
BaadGoat2006
02-28-2007, 04:55 AM
(you cant keep everyone happy).
no freaking doubt. i will order mine this afternoon
ecetim
02-28-2007, 05:40 AM
Hey Tigertamer
Thanks for that, its great to work with good bunch of fellow GTO owners (you cant keep everyone happy).
JHP are holding 12 confirmed orders, 3 waiting for credit card info.Could you clarify my previous question: is the final day for the GP March 30? You said the shifters would ship in 2nd or 3rd week of March, just want to make sure we have until March 30. Thanks!
1INSANEGTO
02-28-2007, 07:19 AM
You are right. Thanks for clarifying. I would assume, though, that shipping is more than $10. Therefore this GP is a better deal. Unless someone can contact Speed Inc for a discount, I'm not even gonna bother messing around to save a buck.
Shipping is free at Speed Inc:D
1INSANEGTO
02-28-2007, 07:24 AM
I see the points with what your doing but,.... I dont agree. JHP caved after much pressure yes. They did not have to and Speed Inc. also a vendor here could have jumped in at any time and offered a GP. They didnt and JHP, did Lets not try to make this into a vendor war over a few dollars.Those who dont want to get in on this GP for their own reasons can get the shifter else where. Those that are OK with the GP can get it here. I'm glad to see a vendor listen to their customers so I will support the vendor. I would also add that I'm not writing this to start anything just to stop somthing.:) Comeon guys BIG hug..... NO NOT LIKE THAT..! (perv)
BOB.
No JHP posted after I went and took the time and sent them a email. :wall: And point still its to high for 30 people to buy a product. There is nothing with production cost or anything its because its a GTO. Pro 5.0 are made the same way. Looke at GMM and Pro 5.0 I want a GMM to compare what the difference really is.
JHP you might not have a say so due to profit and I understand somewhat but someone needs to Push GMM to lower price to get with the market and not just rip us because its a GTO and there the only one who offers it.
Monaro@JHP
02-28-2007, 08:43 AM
You found the website, but did you look at the price? It’s right on the front page. It’s listed as $499 AU which is ~$387 US. And the price on the website is listed before shipping. So we are already selling it $80 below for the US market ONLY. There’s not much left to push there. We’ve already been pushing it for over a year.
Pro 5.0 cannot be compared because there is no real user data at this point so you won’t know what you are getting there.
ecetim
02-28-2007, 08:49 AM
Could you clarify my previous question: is the final day for the GP March 30? You said the shifters would ship in 2nd or 3rd week of March, just want to make sure we have until March 30. Thanks!
Thanks :wall:
LS2Greg
02-28-2007, 08:50 AM
speed inc. onley sells the race version and it is $309.00 and jhp gp is 300.00 shipped to your door.just place the order with jhp you save a little and they are doing the right thing with this gp.
I've read the product detail on their web page and it comes across to me as though it is the Street version. Read it for yourself and tell me what you guys think.
The 04-06 GTO's shifter is far less than adequate for spirited driving. The rubber feel and extended linkage design gives the driver a disconnected feel for what is really going on and selecting gears.
GMM’s solution comes from downunder in the form of a billet shifter with a special handle. This T56 shifter is made to fit in the tight space on your GTO. The pivot system is setup for crisp, short, and precise shifts. The special handle is made to locate the stock knob in the same location as factory, it might be slightly higher. Stock knob and leather boot are reused in this installation.
BTW, it's $305 not $309 as some of you stated.
1INSANEGTO
02-28-2007, 08:53 AM
True. There is no user data because know one was willing to try anything. Just like GM rims fitting gto's. Everyone was worried because GTOs were BMW bolt setup. Has anyone had problems running them. Not from what I can see.
Like I said we will not know anything till its tried. I will be jumping in the pool to try it.
Monaro@JHP
02-28-2007, 09:04 AM
Could you clarify my previous question: is the final day for the GP March 30? You said the shifters would ship in 2nd or 3rd week of March, just want to make sure we have until March 30. Thanks!
Thanks :wall:
I would like Geoff(COUPE 4) to respond to that himself, but I’m pretty sure he didn’t mistype anything. Just because we’re going to start shipping in the middle of the month doesn’t mean we will have to close the group purchase itself. It can keep going until the 30th so more people can join in.
Knightmare
02-28-2007, 09:47 AM
Regarding the AU -> US pricing, you really can't compare that. I think normally things are more expensive in AU than in the US, at least from what I've seen. I know when video games and consoles release in AU, once you convert from AU$ to US$ it's still always like 20-25% higher.
25% is hardly the exchange rate.
whiteboyslo
02-28-2007, 12:31 PM
http://quote.yahoo.com/m5?a=1&s=USD&t=AUD&c=0
looks like it's $1.27AU to every $1.00US currently. 25% is always a good estimate
Mike
Knightmare
02-28-2007, 01:01 PM
I wasn't talking about exchange rate though. I meant AFTER the exchange rate. The 60GB Australian release PS3 is like $999AU. given the current exchange rate at this second, that's like $786US. The US PS3 is $600US. $786 - $600 = $186. $186 is over but close to 25% of $600. They pay more for stuff.
COUPE 4
02-28-2007, 01:32 PM
Could you clarify my previous question: is the final day for the GP March 30? You said the shifters would ship in 2nd or 3rd week of March, just want to make sure we have until March 30. Thanks!
Hey ecetim
Sorry for the confusion.
The JHP shifter GP starts on the 1st March and ends on the 30th March for orders. The first shifter orders will ship (in order of receipt) on the 2nd or 3rd week of March (because we didnt have enough stock in the USA) and will keep on shipping until 30th March, until all orders have been filled. We are leaving the GP open till the 30th for the members who didnt see the post.
Geoff
LS2 tiger
02-28-2007, 03:52 PM
Im glad to hear that I'll be one of the first in line. I think that in it's self is a first..! Only three more things on my mod list I'm waiting for. (itchy trigger finger this winter)
tigertamer
02-28-2007, 04:48 PM
not a problem. thanks for the updated.
ecetim
02-28-2007, 05:42 PM
Hey ecetim
Sorry for the confusion.
The JHP shifter GP starts on the 1st March and ends on the 30th March for orders. The first shifter orders will ship (in order of receipt) on the 2nd or 3rd week of March (because we didnt have enough stock in the USA) and will keep on shipping until 30th March, until all orders have been filled. We are leaving the GP open till the 30th for the members who didnt see the post.
GeoffThanks for the clarification Geoff
tigertamer
02-28-2007, 05:51 PM
come on everyone who wanted this gp show your support and confirm orders with jhp so we can get this going.jhp is giving us what we asked for so let's do our part.
LS2Greg
02-28-2007, 05:59 PM
come on everyone who wanted this gp show your support and confirm orders with jhp so we can get this going.jhp is giving us what we asked for so let's do our part.
:mswerd:
CycloneGoat2005
02-28-2007, 08:52 PM
I have (1) set of JHP Darkend Tail Lamps ($310-USD) left in stock. If we get 100 confirmed orders on this "GP" I will put everyones name in a hat that participated and pull out a winner! :bubbrub
:judge: DON :judge:
Knightmare
02-28-2007, 09:15 PM
Now I feel like you guys are just mocking us...
CycloneGoat2005
02-28-2007, 09:35 PM
Now I feel like you guys are just mocking us...
I'm not sure why you would think that. I had just mentioned to Geoff in the past month that I still had a set of these left on the shelf and suggested that we do something for the forum members. I'm sorry if you were offended, that wasn't my intentions!
DON
LS2Greg
02-28-2007, 09:52 PM
I'm not sure why you would think that. I had just mentioned to Geoff in the past month that I still had a set of these left on the shelf and suggested that we do something for the forum members. I'm sorry if you were offended, that wasn't my intentions!
DON
Why is everyone so touchy? Don, thanks for the offer! We appreciate it and I have tried showing it by being one of the first to make the purchase. Hopefully we get to the 100 mark...and I win the taillights!:D
tigertamer
03-01-2007, 01:21 AM
sounds cool
thanks!
speeddemon
03-01-2007, 02:06 AM
ahh your running it till the 30th....perfect.....I need about a week and I will have the $... Don I only have paypal.....can I use it to get in on this GP?
CycloneGoat2005
03-01-2007, 04:37 AM
ahh your running it till the 30th....perfect.....I need about a week and I will have the $... Don I only have paypal.....can I use it to get in on this GP?I do have a Pay Pal account but haven't used in some time because they are up to 4% - I would have to forward those charges onto you. Best thing to do is send me out a USPS Postal Money Order when you get the funds. I beleive they charge .75 for one. That offer is good for anyone else that has the same issue with not having a CC.
DON
fuzzybam
03-01-2007, 12:53 PM
Thank you for this GP JHP :)
CycloneGoat2005
03-01-2007, 08:59 PM
Thank you for this GP JHP :)
Hey fuzzybam,
Your welcome!
speeddemon
03-01-2007, 09:09 PM
I do have a Pay Pal account but haven't used in some time because they are up to 4% - I would have to forward those charges onto you. Best thing to do is send me out a USPS Postal Money Order when you get the funds. I beleive they charge .75 for one. That offer is good for anyone else that has the same issue with not having a CC.
DON
sounds good yeah I know about paypals fees :cry:
ill have a money order out in a week or so
CycloneGoat2005
03-01-2007, 09:21 PM
sounds good yeah I know about paypals fees :cry:
ill have a money order out in a week or so
Oh Yea, Everybody wants a piece of the PIE :banghead:
speeddemon
03-01-2007, 09:46 PM
Oh Yea, Everybody wants a piece of the PIE :banghead:
more like half :banghead:
its easy to use but the fees are getting worse than the electric bill here.....
CycloneGoat2005
03-01-2007, 10:00 PM
more like half :banghead:
its easy to use but the fees are getting worse than the electric bill here.....
Don't get me started on the electric bill! I have this place less than 2 miles from my home, maybe you heard of it. It's called "NIAGARA FALLS". It's one of the country's largest natural resourcees for energy and we (NY-ERS) pay some of the highest energy fees.
Somebody (elected officials) aren't doing thier job
Knightmare
03-01-2007, 10:07 PM
so how many paid/cc confirmed orders are we up to? Does it looks like we will be filling this GP?
QSGTO
03-02-2007, 04:07 AM
I need a week to get the rest of the money together.
LS2Greg
03-02-2007, 06:30 AM
This is not to call anyone out, I'm merely making a point. How do you guys need to get any $ together if you are purchasing the shifter by credit card? I understand if you are sending a MO or cashier's check but you don't have to pay off your CC for a month. Please explain....
Also, where are the other 20 or so people that put their names on the list to buy a shifter?
Knightmare
03-02-2007, 06:45 AM
lets do this...
1. LS2Greg - Street - PAID
2. fuzzybam - Street - PAID
3. baadgoat2006 - Race
4. Judgethis06 - Race
5. ecetim - Street
6. tigertamer - Street - PAID
7. speeddemon - Race
8. QSGTO - Race
9. Nailhead76 - Race - PAID
10. everett - Race
11. 95Formula - Race
12. Hotrodkush - Race
13. Farsighted770 - Street - PAID
14. 1INSANEGTO- Race
15. zevrun - race
16. gilty1 - race
17. 365ciGTO - Street
18. jsalvato1 - Race
19. woodnutz - Street
20. 04rareredgto - Street
21. Knightmare - race - PAID
22.puredrive-street
23.longhornbsbll15-RACE!
24.Deak - Street
25. TurboDonnie - race
26. nomorefwd - ?
27. cjmatt - street
28. Rada - street
29. Kmaro - Race
30. MinGTO - Race
31. Fat Nick- Street for LSS
32. SpicyGTO - Race
33. Fenderplayer - Street
34. BaadGoat2006 - ?
35. Billy_Goat - ? - PAID
36. mr. jason/jason street
37. LS2Tiger - ? - PAID
LS2Greg
03-02-2007, 08:33 AM
lets do this...
1. LS2Greg - Street - PAID
2. fuzzybam - Street - PAID
3. baadgoat2006 - Race
4. Judgethis06 - Race
5. ecetim - Street
6. tigertamer - Street - PAID
7. speeddemon - Race
8. QSGTO - Race
9. Nailhead76 - Race - PAID
10. everett - Race
11. 95Formula - Race
12. Hotrodkush - Race
13. Farsighted770 - Street - PAID
14. 1INSANEGTO- Race
15. zevrun - race
16. gilty1 - race
17. 365ciGTO - Street
18. jsalvato1 - Race
19. woodnutz - Street
20. 04rareredgto - Street
21. Knightmare - race - PAID
22.puredrive-street
23.longhornbsbll15-RACE!
24.Deak - Street
25. TurboDonnie - race
26. nomorefwd - ?
27. cjmatt - street
28. Rada - street
29. Kmaro - Race
30. MinGTO - Race
31. Fat Nick- Street for LSS
32. SpicyGTO - Race
33. Fenderplayer - Street
34. BaadGoat2006 - ?
35. Billy_Goat - ? - PAID
36. mr. jason/jason street
37. LS2Tiger - ? - PAID
Damn, are you serious??? Only 8 out of 37 people have paid...that is aweful, come on people. I'm calling everyone out who said they would pay and haven't. You should make the investment in this shifter. EVERYONE who's bought one has only said good things about it. This shifter should have been OEM and now you have the opportunity to get a discount on it from a company who was nice enough to listen to us "small guys" so take advantage!!!! We asked for it, they gave it to us and now you guys aren't keeping up your end.
puredrive
03-02-2007, 09:16 AM
i paid already
ecetim
03-02-2007, 09:24 AM
Damn, are you serious??? Only 8 out of 37 people have paid...that is aweful, come on people. I'm calling everyone out who said they would pay and haven't. You should make the investment in this shifter. EVERYONE who's bought one has only said good things about it. This shifter should have been OEM and now you have the opportunity to get a discount on it from a company who was nice enough to listen to us "small guys" so take advantage!!!! We asked for it, they gave it to us and now you guys aren't keeping up your end.Look back at my post. I said if the price is right. $20 savings doesn't whet my appetite a ton right now. Not saying I won't order, but I'm waiting for the time being. We have until March 30th. Not trying to be ugly to the JHP folks, but would $20 off a $335 product make you buy it right now?
LS2Greg
03-02-2007, 09:27 AM
These are all of the people who opted in the GP and haven't yet paid. Please remove your name once you have. Let's keep track
1. baadgoat2006 - Race
2. Judgethis06 - Race
3. ecetim - Street
4. speeddemon - Race
5. QSGTO - Race
6. everett - Race
7. 95Formula - Race
8. Hotrodkush - Race
9. 1INSANEGTO- Race
10. zevrun - race
11. gilty1 - race
12. 365ciGTO - Street
13. jsalvato1 - Race
14. woodnutz - Street
15. 04rareredgto - Street
16.longhornbsbll15-RACE!
17.Deak - Street
18. TurboDonnie - race
19. nomorefwd - ?
20. cjmatt - street
21. Rada - street
22. Kmaro - Race
23. MinGTO - Race
24. Fat Nick- Street for LSS
25. SpicyGTO - Race
26. Fenderplayer - Street
27. BaadGoat2006 - ?
28. mr. jason/jason street
95Formula
03-02-2007, 09:42 AM
paid! woohoo! can't wait! THANKS GO OUT TO JHP FOR HEARING THE CONSUMERS AND ACTING ACCORDINGLY! YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME!
GTO_Greg
03-02-2007, 09:52 AM
Thanks for the info, however that was not my question. I stated that Speed Inc doesnt specify which version they are selling.
To the best of my knowledge, Speed Inc has only ever sold the Race version.
These are all of the people who opted in the GP and haven't yet paid. Please remove your name once you have. Let's keep track
1. baadgoat2006 - Race
2. Judgethis06 - Race
3. ecetim - Street
4. speeddemon - Race
5. QSGTO - Race
6. everett - Race
7. 95Formula - Race
8. Hotrodkush - Race
9. 1INSANEGTO- Race
10. zevrun - race
11. gilty1 - race
12. 365ciGTO - Street
13. jsalvato1 - Race
14. woodnutz - Street
15. 04rareredgto - Street
16.longhornbsbll15-RACE!
17.Deak - Street
18. TurboDonnie - race
19. nomorefwd - ?
20. cjmatt - street
21. Rada - PAID (Sent on Saturday, March 3, 2007 at 05:48:51 AEST - JHP Local Time)
22. Kmaro - Race
23. MinGTO - Race
24. Fat Nick- Street for LSS
25. SpicyGTO - Race
26. Fenderplayer - Street
27. BaadGoat2006 - ?
28. mr. jason/jason street
95Formula
03-02-2007, 06:43 PM
1. baadgoat2006 - Race
2. Judgethis06 - Race
3. ecetim - Street
4. speeddemon - Race
5. QSGTO - Race
6. everett - Race
7. 95Formula - Race PAID
8. Hotrodkush - Race
9. 1INSANEGTO- Race
10. zevrun - race
11. gilty1 - race
12. 365ciGTO - Street
13. jsalvato1 - Race
14. woodnutz - Street
15. 04rareredgto - Street
16.longhornbsbll15-RACE!
17.Deak - Street
18. TurboDonnie - race
19. nomorefwd - ?
20. cjmatt - street
21. Rada - PAID (Sent on Saturday, March 3, 2007 at 05:48:51 AEST - JHP Local Time)
22. Kmaro - Race
23. MinGTO - Race
24. Fat Nick- Street for LSS
25. SpicyGTO - Race
26. Fenderplayer - Street
27. BaadGoat2006 - ?
28. mr. jason/jason street
Knightmare
03-02-2007, 06:52 PM
1. baadgoat2006 - Race
2. Judgethis06 - Race
3. ecetim - Street
4. speeddemon - Race
5. QSGTO - Race
6. everett - Race
7. Hotrodkush - Race
8. 1INSANEGTO- Race
9. zevrun - race
10. gilty1 - race
11. 365ciGTO - Street
12. jsalvato1 - Race
13. woodnutz - Street
14. 04rareredgto - Street
15.longhornbsbll15-RACE!
16.Deak - Street
17. TurboDonnie - race
18. nomorefwd - ?
19. cjmatt - street
20. Kmaro - Race
21. MinGTO - Race
22. Fat Nick- Street for LSS
23. SpicyGTO - Race
24. Fenderplayer - Street
25. BaadGoat2006 - ?
26. mr. jason/jason street
just remove your name/clean up numbering... 26 people left... go go go
tigertamer
03-03-2007, 05:43 AM
yes !! please everyone still interested in this gp please make payment and other people not interested keep your negative post to yourself. i think jhp has heard enough!!let's just move on and get along! thanks again jhp!
tigertamer
03-03-2007, 05:44 AM
geoff
what are we at for confirmed orders? i know there was a few that slipped by us here on the forum.
fat nick
03-03-2007, 08:18 AM
Will the street version I buy be able to use the LSS?
LS2Greg
03-03-2007, 10:03 AM
Will the street version I buy be able to use the LSS?
Yep! I'm getting one myself.
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