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SDB
02-08-2005, 05:49 PM
Mounted the solenoids and lines, still have to do the electrical wiring, microswitch install (waiting on NitroDave's updated billet bracket to test), and figuring out the placement of the switches for system arm and bottle heater....going to change oil/filter and install the timing tuner (window swith purpose) tomorrow...

I did not spend any time or extra money to make it look cool, I wanted a basic kit that would work well and be easy to take off (takes about 20 minutes to remove everything) in case of needed warranty work! The bottle is mounted to a piece of MDF 1/2 thick that is covered with shelf liner, with velcro strips on back. Works great, does not slip around at all even with an empty bottle under hard turning and driving all week. I am using a NOS blue bottle, 15lb, with gauge on bottle and hi flow valve (instead of stock 10 lb NX bottle).

I am using a single nozzle NX kit adjustable to 250 shot (I will use 100 and 150), bottle heater, filter, soon-to-be-released billet bracket (from Nitro Dave), NX bottle blanket, timing tuner, and some sort of custom switches for arming and heater...

I have some pics if someone can put them here for me...

SDB




msfyter
02-08-2005, 05:52 PM
email me the pics I can host them for you
mark@fasterbaby.com

SDB
02-08-2005, 06:51 PM
just did! thanks

SDB

msfyter
02-08-2005, 06:54 PM
here ya go....thems some big twinkie files
http://www.fasterbaby.com/nos.JPG
http://www.fasterbaby.com/nos2.JPG

msfyter
02-08-2005, 06:55 PM
have you run it yet?

SDB
02-08-2005, 07:10 PM
have you run it yet?
Thanks for the pics posting..

Haven't run it yet, waiting on time to do the electrical wiring...

I will have the timing tuner to add 2 degres on motor, and take those 2 degrees out on the juice (stock timing should be OK with nitrous at 150 setting)...I will have it set to turn the solenoids on at 3000 rpm and off 100 rpm's before the shift..
I will monitr AF ratio on dyno, and if need be I will add a Walboro intank (ordered) fuel pump for the 150 shot (may not need it, but cheap insurance)

This and nittos, should go mid to low 12's I imagine....

SDB

msfyter
02-08-2005, 07:12 PM
sweet

TrakDay
02-08-2005, 11:37 PM
Nice. Nirtous is always a fun toy to have. I have installed 2 systems and both have put out great performance! Always nice to have that extra punch!

Enjoy

Trannyman
02-09-2005, 07:10 PM
I had the TNT nitrous 100hp kit installed on my GTO last week by MTI in Houston. It is installed along with a window switch that turns on a 3000 rpm and off at 6200 rpm. The full throttle switch is on the floor under the pedal. I took it to the track and ran a base time of 13.662 @ 102.54 without the nitrous and it ran 12.565 @ 115.6 on the gas. I had a late shift between 2-3 which slowed the car a little. My best run to date without the nitrous has been 13.44 @ 102.00. My only other mod is a K&N air filter from Jegs. MTI reprogrammed my computer to take out 2 degrees of timing. I feel with some sticky tires and a bottle warmer I should go 12.20's. The pressure on the bottle at the time of my pass was appox. 700 psi.


That is some information you can use. :)

SDB
02-09-2005, 07:56 PM
I had the TNT nitrous 100hp kit installed on my GTO last week by MTI in Houston. It is installed along with a window switch that turns on a 3000 rpm and off at 6200 rpm. The full throttle switch is on the floor under the pedal. I took it to the track and ran a base time of 13.662 @ 102.54 without the nitrous and it ran 12.565 @ 115.6 on the gas. I had a late shift between 2-3 which slowed the car a little. My best run to date without the nitrous has been 13.44 @ 102.00. My only other mod is a K&N air filter from Jegs. MTI reprogrammed my computer to take out 2 degrees of timing. I feel with some sticky tires and a bottle warmer I should go 12.20's. The pressure on the bottle at the time of my pass was appox. 700 psi.


That is some information you can use. :)

You don't need the two degrees of timing out for 100 or even 150 shot on LS1 motors (at least with the NX kits, maybe TNT is jetted differently). I would try running a timing tuner to take out timing (if actually needed) only when on the nitrous. I bet with a heater to get the bottle at 1000 ps1 and drag radials, you will hit 11.9 at 116-118 mph on a 125-150 shot...

I just installed my timing tuner tonight, seems to work fine (added 2 degrees NA for the hell of it). I will take it to a track and see if this makes a differnence. Did you have them change the plugs? I would assume MIT would do that as well, I went with TR6 NGK's gapped at ,038, didn't seem to affect NA perfooance at all...are you taking out 2 degrees all the time? if so, that will hurt your NA performance obviously.

Thanks for sharing the info! As soon as mine is all done, I will post results as well...

What was yout 60ft on the motor and on the nitrous?

Sid3ways s13
02-09-2005, 07:58 PM
What did this run you if you don't mind me askin, I'm comtemplating this with a few minor bolt ons and the gains you got are what I'm looking for.

Trannyman
02-09-2005, 08:31 PM
60ft times weren't any different.(2.15 to 2.07) Since the nitrous doesn't kick in till 3000rpm, that is probably after 60ft.

I Paid $699.00 for the kit and around 650? for the install, computer tune and dyno test. Kit made an additional 78 hp at the rear wheels. The TNT kit is a little more complicated of an install. You have to modify the inlet tube and the p/s reservoir.
I think probably anyone with a limited mechanical ability could do it and save the charge for the install.
I like my stuff done professionally, projects that I have time for I do myself and do right. Things I don't have time for or don't feel like doing, I pay other people to do it for me. I would estimate the time to install all of the kit professionally would be around 8-10 hours. You can hack it in a lot quicker. :)

Doc GTO
02-10-2005, 06:25 AM
I had the TNT nitrous 100hp kit installed on my GTO last week by MTI in Houston. It is installed along with a window switch that turns on a 3000 rpm and off at 6200 rpm. The full throttle switch is on the floor under the pedal. I took it to the track and ran a base time of 13.662 @ 102.54 without the nitrous and it ran 12.565 @ 115.6 on the gas. I had a late shift between 2-3 which slowed the car a little. My best run to date without the nitrous has been 13.44 @ 102.00. My only other mod is a K&N air filter from Jegs. MTI reprogrammed my computer to take out 2 degrees of timing. I feel with some sticky tires and a bottle warmer I should go 12.20's. The pressure on the bottle at the time of my pass was appox. 700 psi.


That is some information you can use. :)

A 12.5 at 115mph with stock tires is great! Get some drags and get that bottle up to ~1000psi and you shpuld be low 12s for sure!

How about a copy of the dyno sheet!!!

Trannyman
02-10-2005, 08:26 AM
A 12.5 at 115mph with stock tires is great! Get some drags and get that bottle up to ~1000psi and you shpuld be low 12s for sure!

How about a copy of the dyno sheet!!!


I don't have a scanner for the dyno sheet.

Trannyman
07-10-2005, 04:25 PM
A 12.5 at 115mph with stock tires is great! Get some drags and get that bottle up to ~1000psi and you shpuld be low 12s for sure!

How about a copy of the dyno sheet!!!

Hey I finally got a scanner and I will post this dyno sheet if it works.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/6/web/ 2046000-2046999/2046532_2_full.jpg (http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/6/web/ 2046000-2046999/2046532_2_full.jpg)

HTRDLNCN
07-10-2005, 04:51 PM
the nitrous and it ran 12.565 @ 115.6 on the gas.

115.6 is enough to get in the 11s..
I ran 11.9@116 with a crappy 1.8 on dr nittos in my lincoln.
slicks netted me a 1.6 60ft and 11.7 et with same 116mph..

MGTO05
07-10-2005, 08:44 PM
The pics aren't working for me. :(

I hope they come out with a kit for the LS2 soon.

Robul
07-10-2005, 09:00 PM
Hey I finally got a scanner and I will post this dyno sheet if it works.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/6/web/ 2046000-2046999/2046532_2_full.jpg (http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/6/web/ 2046000-2046999/2046532_2_full.jpg)

good numbers.. might be careful posting up nitrous dyno numbers though. Some members here think quoteing nitrous dyno horsepower is shady. :rolleyes:

Robul
07-10-2005, 09:01 PM
The pics aren't working for me. :(

I hope they come out with a kit for the LS2 soon.


Any universal EFI wet kit will work flawlessly on any ls2

usequal
07-11-2005, 11:55 AM
why would someone think posting nitrous numbers is shady? imo, there is absolutely nothing wrong with this so long as you list your mods.....nitrous is a legitimate power adder.....thats rediculous. :driving:

Robul
07-11-2005, 01:53 PM
why would someone think posting nitrous numbers is shady? imo, there is absolutely nothing wrong with this so long as you list your mods.....nitrous is a legitimate power adder.....thats rediculous. :driving:



My thoughts exactly.

UtahGTO
07-12-2005, 01:24 PM
sorry fellas not a big nitrous fan kinda of street races that we do in utah nitrous would not last me for maybe one hour

hardcore
07-12-2005, 01:30 PM
I ran 12.60 @ 110mph with a 40 shot and drag radials. I may up it to a 60 shot this week

FraggerCrue
07-12-2005, 11:17 PM
The pics aren't working for me. :(

I hope they come out with a kit for the LS2 soon.
Why couldn't you run the FAST intake manifold?

JS1965
07-13-2005, 08:40 AM
For the $$$ a complete N20 system is a nice option for most guys...U figure if u do build a cam only car and bash it with a 100 shot you'd have a legitimate 11 Sec street car on dr's....

usequal
07-13-2005, 10:54 AM
hardcore, those are pretty good numbers...do you have any other mods? what was your 60'? cause i just ran my 04 A4 on stock tires and got a disappointing 14.4 at like 98 mph or something....i plan on getting a 75 dry shot and then deal with TM eventually....I was hoping to shave a full second with this setup....but man, 12.60 would be nice

Rhino74
07-13-2005, 12:49 PM
I ran 12.60 @ 110mph with a 40 shot and drag radials. I may up it to a 60 shot this week

Stock 04 A4s run 14 seconds at best, I've seen them run at the track and they typically dyno under 300rwhp. If your NOS kit added 40rwhp, and your DRs helped your launch, I could see running low 13s, but you would never trap at 110mph with about 335 rwhp. What are you leaving out? Got bolt ons you didn't mention?

Wipeout
08-05-2005, 02:41 PM
Trust me. Hes stock.

Think he runs without a filter or open air box at the track. (Don't quote me on that one). And Ices the motor between runs.

And some minor weight reduction.

Thats all.

Trannyman
08-05-2005, 03:35 PM
I have got an A4 with a K&N and a computer tune and my car ran a 13.4 in perfect weather. 13.66 normally. I have got a 100 hp shot on a 3000 rpm window switch and have gotten a best of 12.51 @ 115 I think I could get the numbers down a couple of more tenths if I put the Nitrous on a button and hit it around 2000 rpm.

Without the K&N and computer tune it ran 14.10's (?) if I remember right.

Whisky
08-05-2005, 04:34 PM
Sevaral of the mags have run 13.8-13.9's on stock A4's.

HTRDLNCN
08-05-2005, 06:59 PM
Stock 04 A4s run 14 seconds at best,?
BS,,I ran 13.8@100.5 bone stock on stock tires in 86deg and 76% humidity at Moroso known to be a "slow" track..
in cold weather I bet I could have run mid 13s stock.

PO04GTO
08-06-2005, 10:55 AM
Quik question on NOS.. I'am looking to run a 50 hp shot. With the supercharger tune will I be able to run just the NOS, with the computer adding the fuel? Or will I have to inject both NOS and fuel? New to the world of nitrous so any "GOOD" info will help me make a decision.

Wipeout
08-06-2005, 05:31 PM
I have little to no knowledge in the world of NOS, but my understanding is such a small shot like a 40-60 is virtually plug and play. The bigger shots are the ones that you really need to watch.

I think I read somewhere 100+?

I don't know, perhaps a resident 'expert' can give you something more useful.

Edit: Of course I'm talkin from stock...just noticed the charger...

Irakz
08-08-2005, 08:48 AM
can't get the pics to work....

Can someone fix this please.

nikivee
08-08-2005, 09:28 AM
good numbers.. might be careful posting up nitrous dyno numbers though. Some members here think quoteing nitrous dyno horsepower is shady. :rolleyes:


Really? I thought HP was HP no matter how you get it.

Robul
08-09-2005, 10:01 AM
Quik question on NOS.. I'am looking to run a 50 hp shot. With the supercharger tune will I be able to run just the NOS, with the computer adding the fuel? Or will I have to inject both NOS and fuel? New to the world of nitrous so any "GOOD" info will help me make a decision.

You have the maggie right? Some say not to spray fuel through the blower because it can eat the teplon on the rotors. I sprayed a 150 shot through my eaton m90 on my GTP for years and it looked perfect when i yanked it off. A 50 shot on your car will create tremedous results because it will cool that intake charge like a MOFO.. you might get upwards of 75-100 whp.. I would spray a wet 50 if I was you but some say go dry... IF you spray a dry kit you will either have to make sure you injectors are not maxxed out and spray into the MAF. If they are maxed out get some bigger ones.. As for the tune you should be fine with a 50 shot without changing anything.. Let us know how she does.

hardcore
08-10-2005, 04:16 AM
Here are a few picks of my dry kit install....BTW my car has gone best of 12.50 @ 111.9 on the gas and 13.45 @ 103 off

http://home.comcast.net/~jaxgto/hiden1.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~jaxgto/hiden2.jpg

lil2liter
08-11-2005, 05:42 PM
Here are a few picks of my dry kit install....BTW my car has gone best of 12.50 @ 111.9 on the gas and 13.45 @ 103 off

http://home.comcast.net/~jaxgto/hiden1.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~jaxgto/hiden2.jpg

Underneath the car tank mounting. Very Sneaky! Hats off to a sick install.

1meangto
08-11-2005, 06:23 PM
I haven't ran at a track in a long time but stock In great weather i ran a 13.59 stock as stock gets......

Now what it will run I have no clue. But I should be well into the 11's