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02-18-2005, 08:43 PM

Info - Key Cutting Procedure for Obtaining Replacement Key #03-00-89-037 - (Nov 4, 2003)
Key Cutting Procedure for Obtaining Replacement Key
2004 Pontiac GTO

Important
"GM of Canada" dealers are not authorized to utilize this service bulletin.

Due to the uniqueness of the Pontiac GTO key blank, special equipment is required to cut a key for the Pontiac GTO.

To obtain a replacement key, the following procedure is suggested:

Obtain the vehicle key code by accessing the "Key Code Look Up" application through GM DealerWorld under the Parts tab or from the Security Card provided to the owner at the time of delivery.
Submit a part order through the GMSPO Parts System for a key blank. Be sure to include the key code in the "note" field of the order and indicate the preferred method of shipment (i.e. overnight, etc.).

Important
The order will be shipped the same day if received by 3:00 p.m. EST, or within 24 hours - Monday through Friday.

Assemble the new key to the key remote head (transmitter) using two screws.
Insert the key into the ignition and turn to the RUN position.

Important
This is a one-time program meaning a key can only be programmed once. Once programmed, the key cannot be revised whether on the same vehicle or on a different one.

Program the transmitter to the vehicle. This can be done either through the Tech 2® (TIS CD #11 available 10/20/03 via the web, or 10/24/03 via CD) or by using a manual procedure. For the manual procedure , refer to Document ID #1349159 Transmitter Programming in the Keyless Entry sub-section of SI. The path to access this set-up through the Tech 2® is:
Diagnostics
2004
Pass car
Pontiac
Body
Body Control Module
Special Function
Program Key FOBs
Enter
As an alternate to Step 2, the following equipment can be purchased through 1-800-GM-TOOLS.

Equipment
Description
Part Number

Machine Duplicating
Used to produce a duplicate key from an existing key
74 -- Matrix S

Computerized Duplicating and Code Cutting
Used to produce a key from a key code
74 -- Triax

Parts Information
Part Number
Description
Qty

92141426
Key -- Ignition
1

92138596
Screw -- Remote Coded Key
1 pkg

92123129
Key Asm -- Door Lock and Ignition Lock Transmitter
2

Parts are currently available from GMSPO.

Warranty Information
For vehicles repaired under warranty, use:

Labor Operation
S0011
Keys -- Cut/Replace
0.2 hr

Red Devil

02-18-2005, 08:43 PM

· Knock or Thud Noise When Cruise Control is On or Off (Install Washer at Rear Mounting Point) #04-08-68-003 - (Sep 24, 2004)
Knock or Thud Noise When Cruise Control is On or Off (Install Washer at Rear Mounting Point)
2004 Pontiac GTO

Condition
Some customers may comment that a knock or thud noise can be heard in their vehicle when the cruise control is on and even when it is off.

Cause

This noise may be caused by a lack of clearance between the cruise control module (1) and the ABS/cruise control module mounting bracket. The noise is transmitted into the vehicle through the body at the contact point (2) shown.

Correction

Install a washer (1), P/N 11509262, to the rear mounting point as shown in the illustration above. This will provide clearance between the cruise control module assembly (1) and the sheet metal bracket.

Parts Information
Part Number
Description
Qty

11509262
Washer
1

Parts are . . .available from GMSPO.

Warranty Information
For vehicles repaired under warranty, use:

Labor Operation
R1220
Module, Cruise Control - Replace
Use Published Labor Operation Time

Red Devil

02-18-2005, 08:44 PM

· Whistle Noise While Vehicle is Stationary with Brakes Applied (Replace Vacuum Brake Booster Check Valve) #04-05-22-001 - (Sep 15, 2004)
Whistle Noise While Vehicle Is Stationary with Brakes Applied (Replace Vacuum Brake Booster Check Valve)
2004 Pontiac GTO

Condition
Some customers may comment on a light, barely audible whistle noise while their vehicle is stationary, with the brakes applied. This noise will disappear when the brakes are released.

Correction
Install a new vacuum brake booster check valve. Refer to Vacuum Brake Booster Check Valve and/or Hose Replacement (SI Document ID #1367021).

The new valve (1) can be easily identified from the old valve (2) by the black cover.

Parts Information
Part Number
Description
Qty

92148176
P/B Booster Valve
1

Parts are currently available from GMSPO.

Warranty Information
For vehicles repaired under warranty, use:

Labor Operation
H1240
Valve, Filter, Hose and/or Pipe, Vacuum Power Brake - Replace
Use Published Labor Operation Time

Red Devil

02-18-2005, 08:44 PM

Speedometer MPH Indicator Too Bright (Reduce MPH Indicator Brightness Using Tech 2) #04-08-49-023 - (Sep 10, 2004)
Speedometer MPH Indicator Too Bright (Reduce MPH Indicator Brightness Using Tech 2®)
2004 Pontiac GTO

Built Prior to VIN Breakpoint 4L299640

Condition
Some customers may comment that the MPH indicator on the speedometer is too bright during night driving and that it does not dim with the IP lamps.

Correction
Follow the procedure below using the Tech 2® to reduce the brightness of the speedometer MPH indicator. This procedure must be followed exactly.

Important
The Tech 2® must contain software version 24.005 or later available from Techline® starting July 2004, on the TIS 2000 version TIS 07/2004 data update or later.

Install the Tech 2® to the vehicle and power on.
Select "Diagnostic" from the menu.
Build the vehicle from the menu options.
Select "Body" from the menu.
Select the correct transmission type.
Select "Instrument Panel Cluster" from the menu.
Select "Special Functions" from the menu.
Select "Programming" from the menu.
Select " Instrument Configuration" from the menu.
Press Enter.
Press "Change Data". Even though the screen deals with tire size and speed pulses, the data stream changes the MPH indicator brightness.
Warranty Information
For vehicles repaired under warranty, use:

Labor Operation
N4199
Instrument Panel Cluster (IPC) Module Reprogram
0.2 hr

Red Devil

02-18-2005, 08:44 PM

· Knock Noise from Front Suspension When Driving at Low Speeds Over Bumps/Uneven Road Surfaces (Install New Strut-to-Steering Knuckle Attaching Bolts and Nuts or New Front Lower Control Arm Rod Nut) #04-03-08-014 - (Aug 25, 2004)
Knock Noise from Front Suspension When Driving at Low Speeds Over Bumps/Uneven Road Surfaces (Install New Strut-to-Steering Knuckle Attaching Bolts and Nuts or New Front Lower Control Arm Rod Nut)
2004 Pontiac GTO

Condition
Some customers may comment on a knock noise from the front suspension when driving at low speeds over bumps or uneven road surfaces.

Cause

This condition may be caused by the lower coil of the spring touching on the side lip of the spring seat.

The spring coils contacting the body sheet metal within the wheelhouse area may also cause this condition.

Correction
Inspection
Inspect the tightness of all front suspension fasteners. If they are OK, proceed to Step 2.
Inspect the body sheet metal around the inside of the strut tower for signs of spring coil rubbing.
Inspect the second lower coil on the inboard side of the spring for signs of chipped or marked paint, as shown in the previous illustration.
If marks are found as described in Steps 2 and 3, proceed to Procedure A.
Procedure A

Tools Required
J 45059 Angle Meter

Remove the spring from the strut assembly and re-install it upside down (with the thin coil end resting on the spring seat).
Carefully reinstall the upper bearing (yellow plastic housing), ensuring that it is located correctly in the upper spring seat.
While the strut is removed from the vehicle, cycle the control arm up and down.
If a noise is heard from the lower control arm rod front insulator bushing, reinstall the strut assembly to the vehicle and proceed to Procedure B.
If no noise is heard, install new strut-to-steering knuckle attaching bolts and nuts. Tighten the nuts while applying pressure to the top of the brake rotor. This will ensure that the camber adjustment bolt is against the strut tube, eliminating the need to perform a front end alignment. Tighten
Tighten the nuts to 85 N·m (62 lb ft).
Tighten the nuts to 100 N·m (74 lb ft).
Use the J 45059 in order to tighten the nuts an additional 90 degrees.
Procedure B
Only perform this procedure if Step 3 from Procedure A confirms that it is necessary.

Remove the front lower control arm rod nut.
Install a new nut, but do not fully tighten.
Bounce the front of the vehicle up and down several times to stabilize the suspension.
Tighten the control arm rod nuts to 148 N·m(109 lb ft).
Parts Information
Part Number
Description
Qty

11090821
Bolt, Front Suspension Strut
4

92138205
Nut, Front Suspension Strut
4

11084241
Nut, Control Arm Rod Lower
2

Parts are currently available from GMSPO.

Warranty Information
For vehicles repaired under warranty, use:

Labor Operation
E9418*
Invert Spring - Both Sides
1.7 hrs

Red Devil

02-18-2005, 08:45 PM

*This labor operation is for use only with this bulletin. It will not be published in the Labor Time Guide.
· Front Door Lock Will Not Unlock or Will Lock Intermittently (Install New Door Lock Assembly) #04-08-64-018 - (Aug 24, 2004)
Front Door Lock Will Not Unlock or Will Lock Intermittently (Install New Door Lock Assembly)
2004 Pontiac GTO

Built Prior to VIN Breakpoint 4L225024

Condition
Some customers may comment that the front door lock will not unlock or will lock intermittently.

Cause
This condition may be due to internal friction within the door lock mechanism at the rivet which attaches the door external handle lever to the lock base. The lever is returned to the rest position by the return (or torsion) spring. The door lock will not release unless the lever returns fully to the rest position.

Correction
Install a new door lock assembly. Refer to Lock Replacement-Door (SI Document ID #1340736).

Parts Information
Part Number
Description

92143359
Front Side Door Lock (LH)

92143360
Front Side Door Lock (RH)

Parts are currently available from GMSPO.

Warranty Information
For vehicles repaired under warranty, use:

Labor Operation

B4260
Lock, Front Door-Right - R&R or Replace
Use Published Labor Operation Time

B4261
Lock, Front Door-Left - R&R or Replace

Red Devil

02-18-2005, 08:45 PM

· Loss of Pedal Height/Low Clutch Pedal, Clutch Does not Release Fully Untill Full Pedal Travel, Difficulty Changing Gears (Tighten Clutch Pressure Plate Bolts) #04-07-31-003 - (Jun 30, 2004)
Loss of Pedal Height/Low Clutch Pedal, Clutch Doesn't Release Fully Until Full Pedal Travel, Difficulty Changing Gears (Tighten Clutch Pressure Plate Bolts)
2004 Pontiac GTO Built Prior to VIN Breakpoint 4L234149

with Manual Transmission

Condition
Some customers may comment on progressive loss of pedal height (which, if not addressed, could result in the clutch not fully releasing until full pedal travel), difficulty in changing gears or a low clutch pedal.

Cause
Root cause analysis has identified that the clutch pressure plate bolt torque on vehicles produced before the above VIN breakpoint may loosen in service. This condition was corrected in production by increasing the torque of the clutch pressure plate bolts. This change became effective in vehicle production beginning with VIN 4L234149, built on 2/11/04.

Correction

Important
This correction MUST be performed before retail delivery of new vehicles built prior to VIN breakpoint 4L234149.
Whenever performing repairs to the clutch assembly on vehicles built both prior to and after the specified VIN breakpoint, ensure that all six pressure plate retaining bolts are tightened in sequence as shown in the illustration.

Apply additional torque to the clutch pressure plate-to-flywheel bolts to the revised torque specification of 70 N·m +/-7 N·m (52 lb ft +/-5 lb ft).

SI will be updated with this revised torque specification in the future.

Tighten the bolts in sequence in 4 steps:

Tighten all bolts to 15 N·m (11 lb ft).
Tighten all bolts to 35 N·m (26 lb ft).
Tighten all bolts to 55 N·m (41 lb ft).
Tighten all bolts to 70 N·m (52 lb ft).
Warranty Information
For vehicles repaired under warranty, use:

Labor Operation

K0800
Clutch Pressure Plate - Replace
3.2 hrs

Red Devil

02-18-2005, 08:45 PM

· Paint Peeling from the Steerign Wheel Spokes (Replace Covers) #04-02-35-007 - (Apr 20, 2004)
Paint Peeling from the Steering Wheel Spokes (Replace Covers)
2004 Pontiac GTO

Condition
Some customers may comment that the silver paint is peeling from the spokes on the steering wheel.

Remove the steering wheel. Refer to SI Document ID #1379596 and unscrew the covers from the wheel. Install the new covers and reinstall the wheel.

Parts Information
Part Number
Description

92147964
Cover, Steering Wheel OPG

Parts are currently available from GMSPO.

Warranty Information
For vehicles repaired under warranty, use:

Labor Operation
E7020
Wheel, Steering --Replace
0.4 hr

Red Devil

02-18-2005, 08:46 PM

· Knocking Noise from Rear of Vehicle on Aggressive Launch or Acceleration (Install Rear Suspension Crossmember Front Mount Insulators) #04-03-09-003A - (Apr 20, 2004)
Knocking Noise from Rear of Vehicle on Aggressive Launch or Acceleration (Install Rear Suspension Crossmember Front Mount Insulators)
2004 Pontiac GTO

Built Prior to VIN Breakpoint 4L246712

This bulletin is being revised to change a torque specification within the correction procedure. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 04-03-09-003 (Section 03 -- Suspension).

Condition
Some customers may comment on a knocking noise coming from the rear of the vehicle. This noise occurs during an aggressive launch or acceleration and will be more common on vehicles with a manual transmission.

Cause
The cause of this condition may be contact between the body and the rear suspension crossmember.

Correction
Install insulators, P/N 90447991, and new bolts, P/N 92038482, between the body and the rear suspension crossmember using the procedure listed below.

Important
Only remove the bolts from one side of the suspension crossmember at a time, and DO NOT loosen the opposite side, until the insulator is installed on the first side and all fasteners have been tightened to the specified torque setting.

Raise and support the vehicle. Refer to Lifting and Jacking the Vehicle in the General Information sub-section of the Service Manual. Position rear hoist.
Support the rear suspension crossmember just under the brace using an adjustable jack stand.
Remove the 3 brace to underbody bolts.
Remove the front mount bolt attaching the rear suspension crossmember to the underbody.
Lower the jack stand slightly to allow clearance between the crossmember and the underbody.

Important
When installing the insulator onto the crossmember front mount bushing, face the corrugated side upwards, so it bears against the underbody.

Install the insulator between the underbody and the upper part of the crossmember, ensuring to seat the insulator firmly onto the center of the crossmember front mount bushing.
Raise the crossmember using the jack stand until it is pressing firmly against the underbody.
With the jack stand still in position to support the crossmember, install the new front mount bolt and the 3 brace to underbody bolts. Tighten
Tighten the crossmember front mount bolt to 125N·m(92 lb ft). Use J 45059 Torque Angle Meter in order to tighten the bolt an additional 40 degrees.

Tighten
Tighten the brace bolts to 65N·m(48 lb ft).

Remove the jack stand.
Repeat steps 2 to 9 for the opposite side.
Parts Information
Part Number
Description
Qty

90447991
Insulator, Rear Suspension Crossmember Front Mount (2 Per Package)
1

92038482
Bolt, Rear Suspension Crossmember Front Mount
2

Parts are currently available from GMSPO.

Warranty Information
For vehicles repaired under warranty, use:

Labor Operation
E9407*
Rear Suspension Crossmember Front Mount Insulators -- Install
0.5 hr

*This is a unique labor operation number for use only with this bulletin. This number will not be published in the Labor Time Guide.

Red Devil

02-18-2005, 08:46 PM

· Poor Radio Reception or Radio Static/Increased Interference with Rear Window Defogger On or Some Rear Window Defogger Grids May Be Inoperative (Diagnose and Repair Rear Window Defogger Heating Grid) #03-08-44-005B - (Jan 14, 2004)
Poor Radio Reception or Radio Static/Increased Interference with Rear Window Defogger On or Some Rear Window Defogger Grids May Be Inoperative (Diagnose and Repair Rear Window Defogger Heating Grid)

2004 Pontiac GTO

This bulletin is being revised to provide additional models. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 03-08-44-005A (Section 08 -- Body and Accessories).

Condition
Some customers may comment that the radio has poor reception or radio static/increased interference when the rear window defogger is turned on. Also, some rear window defogger grids may be inoperative.

Cause
This condition may be due to microscopic cracks in the electrically heated grids of the rear window defogger. These cracks may cause electrical interference when the rear defogger is on and this could affect radio reception.

Background
The addition of vertical grid lines to the heated back window defogger circuits has made it difficult to detect broken defogger grid lines. In the past, it was a simple matter to use a voltmeter to check the continuity of each grid line in order to locate a non-functional line. New design back windows have two vertical grid lines that connect all of the horizontal grid lines together, thereby providing alternate routes for the electrical current to follow. This makes the old test method ineffective.

Materials Required
Permatex Quick Grid, P/N 15067, or equivalent
A small ball of fine steel wool Type 00, or
Optional -- A strip of liquid crystal heat sensitive paper, 51 mm x 305 mm (2 in x 12 in) or similar size (Contact Edmund Scientific at 800-728-6999 for part number CR30723-70 or go to www.scientificsonline.com), or
Optional -- A portable infrared thermometer, GE-46819, available from Kent-Moore (1-800-345-2233), or equivalent.
Correction
There are three distinct zones across the back window that must be checked. They are:

the driver's side outboard of the two vertical lines
the passenger side outboard of the two vertical lines
the central zone that falls between the two vertical lines
To detect a broken grid line in any of the above three zones and to isolate the exact location of the break, perform the following:

Caution
Approved safety glasses and gloves should be worn when performing this procedure to reduce the chance of personal injury.
Cover the rear shelf area to prevent damage to the interior trim material.

Start the engine and turn on the back window defogger.

Important
The first place to check should be the driver side segment 2 to 3 lines up from the bottom about 380-385 mm (15-15.2 in) from the buss bar.

Take the ball of fine steel wool and twist one end to a point. Move the point slowly across each grid line. Be sure to start at the far side of the zone and move it to the opposite side of the zone. When you bridge the grid line break with the steel wool, you will see a small spark. Repeat the test over the same area to be sure you have accurately located the break. Mark the exact location of the grid line break. Repeat this portion of the test for each grid line. If you do not see a spark at any point, it is possible that there are two breaks in the same line and zone. Close visual inspection using a magnifying glass may be the only way to locate breaks in this case.
The following are provided as a alternative way to detect a non-functional grid line. If available, use in addition to the steel wool.
Method using liquid crystal heat sensitive paper.

Important
The first part of the test must be completed quickly before the entire surface of the back window becomes warm.

From outside the vehicle, place the heat sensitive paper (dull surface in contact with the glass) against the top driver side grid line. Start the engine and turn on the back window defogger. A distinct color change will take place at each conductive grid line. Repeat for the bottom grid lines until they have all been checked in the driver side zone.
Repeat the process for the passenger side and center area zones.
If no color change is noted for a grid line, place a crayon or china marker check mark beside it. Mark each grid line in the zone where it is non-conductive and therefore not heating up. More than one broken grid line may be found.
Method using a portable infrared thermometer.
Start the engine and turn on the rear back window defogger.
From inside the vehicle, start at the top driver side grid line and slowly run the portable infrared thermometer vertically down the rear window contacting each grid line. You should be able to see a district variation in temperature readings.
Mark each grid line in the zone where it is non-conductive and, therefore, not heating up. More than one broken grid line may be found.
Repeat the process for the passenger side and center area zones.
Use Permatex Quick Grid, P/N 15067, or equivalent, to repair each broken grid line. Follow the manufacturer's instructions.
Wait 24 hours before turning the defogger on, or the repair can be fast cured using a heat gun, 260°C -- 371°C (500°F -- 700°F). Hold the heat gun within 25 - 51 mm (1- 2 in) from the repair point for 2 to 3 minutes.
Recheck the grid line with the heat sensitive paper or a portable infrared thermometer to ensure that the line is now functional and that the repair was successful.
Warranty Information
For vehicles repaired under warranty, use:

Labor Operation
C0631
Grid, Electric Back Window Defogger -- Repair
0.3 hr

Add
To Repair Each Additional Grid
0.1 hr

Add
Diagnosis Time
0-0.3 hr

Red Devil

02-18-2005, 08:46 PM

· Driver or Passenger Seat Squeaks in Full Down Position (Trim Seat Cushion Outer Panel) #04-08-50-001 - (Jan 6, 2004)
Driver or Passenger Seat Squeaks in Full Down Position (Trim Seat Cushion Outer Panel)
2004 Pontiac GTO

Condition
Some customers may comment on a squeak from the driver or passenger seat while driving with the seat in the full down position.

Cause
The seat cushion outer trim panel contacting the seat track outer cover when the seat is full down may cause this noise.

Correction
This condition can be corrected by trimming some material off the seat cushion outer trim panel at the area of contact. Use the procedure listed below.

Remove the seat cushion outer trim panel from the seat. Refer to the Seat Cushion Outer Trim Panel Replacement procedure in the Seats sub-section of the Service Manual (SI Document ID #1362372).

Important
Trimming the material on a bench grinder is the preferred method. Remove any sharp edges.

Trim 8 mm (0.314 in) of material from the panel as shown.
Reinstall the seat cushion outer trim panel.
Check that the interference is eliminated.
Warranty Information
For vehicles repaired under warranty, use:

Labor Operation

C6581 (Passenger)
Cover, Reclining Seat Back Control Hinge Outer -- R&R or Replace
Use Published Labor Time

C6585 (Driver)
Cover, Reclining Seat Back Control Hinge Outer -- R&R or Replace
Use Published Labor Time

Add:
To Trim Material From Panel
0. hr

Red Devil

02-18-2005, 08:47 PM

· Wind Rush Noise from Outside Rear View Mirrors (File Down Mirror Upper Mounting Boss and Hard Landing) #04-08-58-001 - (Jan 6, 2004)
Wind Rush Noise from Outside Rear View Mirrors (File Down Mirror Upper Mounting Boss and Hard Landing)
2004 Pontiac GTO

Condition
Some customers may comment on a wind rush noise coming from one or both outside rear view mirrors.

Cause
This noise may be caused by an excessive gap between the mirror base and the window seal.

Correction
This condition can be corrected by filing down the mirror upper mounting boss and hard landing using the procedure listed below.

Determine whether wind noise emanates from the right hand or left hand side, and inspect for presence of gap between the mirror base and window seal. Proceed with repair below only if visual gap is present.
Remove the mirror from the door. Refer to the Mirror Replacement procedure in the Doors sub-section of the Service Manual (SI Document ID #1353519).

Cut the rubber seal back 1 mm (0.039 in) from the top of the upper screw mounting boss.

Notice
Do not remove too much material off the screw boss and hard landing otherwise the window operation (and seal) may be adversely affected.

File off 1 mm (0.039 in) from the upper screw mounting boss and hard landing.
Reinstall the mirror to the door.
Check that the window operates correctly.

Warranty Information
For vehicles repaired under warranty, use:

Labor Operation

B4155 (Right Hand Side)
Mirror, Outside Rear View -- Replace
Use Published Labor Time

B4156 (Left Hand Side)
Mirror, Outside Rear View -- Replace
Use Published Labor Time

Add:
To File Mirror Upper Screw Mounting Boss and Hard Landing
0.1 hr

Red Devil

02-18-2005, 08:47 PM

· Info - Engagement Time of Electronically Controlled Transmissions in General Motors Vehicles (Garage Shifts, Park to Reverse, Neutral to Drive, Neutral to Reverse, Park to Drive, Delayed Engagement) #03-07-30-007A - (Nov 4, 2003)
Engagement Time of Electronically Controlled Transmissions in General Motors Vehicles (Garage Shifts, Park to Reverse, Neutral to Drive, Neutral to Reverse, Park to Drive, Delayed Engagement)
2000-2002 Chevrolet Camaro

2000-2004 Chevrolet Corvette

2000-2002 Pontiac Firebird

2004 Pontiac GTO

2000-2004 All Light Duty Trucks

2003-2004 HUMMER H2

with 4L60-E (RPO M30) or 4L65-E (RPO M32) Automatic Transmission

This bulletin is being revised to add model years and models. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 03-07-30-007 (Section 07 - Transmission/Transaxle).

Park/Neutral to Reverse or Drive (commonly called garage shift) engagement times may be different from what many customers might be accustomed to, especially if they have recently traded for a General Motors' vehicle.

Normal Park/Neutral to Reverse or Drive engagement time will be in the vicinity of one (1) second if the automatic transmission fluid (ATF) is above 0°C (32°F) . When the ATF is colder than 0°C (32°F), the engagement time will become longer the colder the transmission fluid. A time limit factor cannot be placed on proper engagement times because the factors that affect transmission operation are many.

At the moment of engine start, for economy and emission requirements, the transmission line pressure is maintained at low levels. This allows a lower cold idle engine RPM (the colder the oil is, the higher the energy level (engine torque output) required to pressurize the oil).

When the driver moves the shift lever from "Park/Neutral" to "Reverse" or any "Drive" range, the following actions must occur for the powertrain control module (PCM) to determine at what pressure to control the transmission line pressure.

The module will look at the following items:

The voltage readings of the engine coolant temperature sensor (ECT).
The voltage reading of the transmission fluid temperature sensor (TFT).
Whether or not air conditioning is requested.
Movement of the shift lever and controls engine RPM based on the gear position selected. The module will adjust the engine RPM in response to the torque requirements needed to increase transmission line pressure.
When the module determines the status of the above items, the module will apply the appropriate signal to the PWM pressure control solenoid, thereby controlling the application of the required clutch(s) depending on the driver's selection.

Controlling transmission apply pressures allows the transmission to engage in a smooth manner, thus reducing the potential of abrupt/harsh engagement of the transmission.

All of the above actions happen very quickly; however, the resultant time interval may be approximately one second.

When determining if shift times are excessive, the exact conditions that the vehicle was in at the time the extended garage shift occurred must be duplicated. The following are several possible conditions.

Was the vehicle outside or in a heated garage?
What was the temperature of the environment at the time of the occurrence?
Length of time the vehicle sat unused, such as overnight or a weekend, etc.? A vehicle that has been driven to the service facility cannot be tested for this concern because the transmission, the engine oil and the coolant are no longer at the temperature they were when the customer experienced the condition.
No attempts to repair should occur unless the condition can be duplicated under the conditions the customer experienced.

Road test the vehicle following the steps below until the vehicle engine and transmission temperatures are at normal operating temperatures. This is approximately 16 km (10 mi) of driving.

In a safe manner, bring the vehicle to a complete stop.
Place the shift lever in Neutral and wait five seconds.
Place the shift lever in Drive. A delayed engagement of approximately one (1) second will occur. THIS IS NORMAL. This time may be extended if the engine RPM is above the base idle, controlled by the driver's foot rather than the control module.
Drive the vehicle for a distance of not less than a tenth of a mile (160 m).
In a safe manner, bring the vehicle to a complete stop.
Place the shift lever in Neutral and wait five seconds.
Place the shift lever in Reverse. A delayed engagement of approximately one (1) second will occur. THIS IS NORMAL. This time may be extended if the engine RPM is above the base idle, controlled by the driver's foot rather than the control module.
Place the shift lever in Neutral and wait five seconds.
Place the shift lever in Drive. A delayed engagement of approximately one (1) second will occur. THIS IS NORMAL. This time may be extended if the engine RPM is above the base idle, controlled by the driver's foot rather than the control module.
If an out of line condition (excessively long time, over two seconds, to engage a gear) is observed, the following areas within the transmission should be inspected for the cause of the concern.

The forward clutch piston seals (delay to drive).
The low and reverse clutch piston seals (delay to reverse).
The reverse input clutch piston seals (delay to reverse).
The stator shaft to reverse input drum seals (delay to reverse).

Red Devil

02-18-2005, 08:56 PM

Red Devil

02-18-2005, 08:56 PM

· DTC P0757 Set, SES Lamp Illuminated, Poor Performance of Transmission, Transmission Slipping (Clean Transmission Valve Body and Case Oil Passages of Debris) #01-07-30-038B - (Jan 26, 2004)
DTC P0757 Set, SES Lamp Illuminated, Poor Performance of Transmission, Transmission Slipping (Clean Transmission Valve Body and Case Oil Passages of Debris)

with 4L60-E/4L65-E Automatic Transmission (RPOs M30/M32)

Condition
Some customers may comment on any of the following conditions:

The SES lamp is illuminated.
No 3rd and 4th gear.
The transmission does not shift correctly.
The transmission feels like it shifts to Neutral or a loss of drive occurs.
The vehicle free wheels above 48 km/h (30 mph). High RPM needed to overcome the free wheeling.

Cause
The most likely cause is chips or debris plugging the bleed orifice of the 2-3 shift solenoid. This will cause the transmission to stay in 2nd gear when 3rd gear is commanded and return to 1st gear when 4th gear is commanded.

DTC P0757 may also be set if the 2-3 shift valve or 2-3 shuttle valve were stuck, restricted and/or hung-up in its bore.

Correction
Inspect / Clean the 2-3 shift valve, the 2-3 shuttle valve and the valve bore of debris / metal chips.
Inspect / Clean the 2-3 shift solenoid opening of debris / metal chips. While inspecting the 2-3 shift solenoid, look for a screen over the solenoid opening. If the solenoid DOES NOT have a screen, replace the solenoid with P/N 10478131 that does have a screen over the solenoid opening.
Refer to the appropriate Service Manual for additional diagnostic information and service procedures.

Parts Information
Part Number
Description
Qty

10478131
Valve, 2-3 Shift Solenoid
1

Parts are currently available from GMSPO.

· Info - Remote Keyless Entry (RKE) Normal Operating Characteristics #04-08-52-006 - (Jun 22, 2004)
Remote Keyless Entry (RKE) Normal Operating Characteristics

2004 Pontiac GTO

This bulletin is being published to advise dealers of two normal operational characteristics of the RKE system that may lead customers to believe the system is faulty.

In the first instance, if a driver exits the vehicle and locks it with the remote, and the passenger door is open, the vehicle will not lock. The horn will chirp three times to indicate that the doors are not properly locked and this warning signal will occur again on each successive press of the lock button on the key fob. To reset the system, press and hold the door unlock button for five seconds. Both doors can now be locked. In order to bypass this condition, the personalization settings must be changed. Refer to Vehicle Personalization in the Owner's Manual.

The second issue is when the customer presses the lock and/or unlock button multiple times. This will cause the key fob to become out of sequence with the RKE receiver. When this occurs, the key fob will not operate until it is re-sequenced.

In order to correct a key fob that is out-of-sequence, follow these steps:

While seated in the vehicle, press and hold the unlock button on the key fob.
While still pressing the unlock key on the fob, insert the ignition key into the ignition switch and turn the key to the ON position.
Once the Driver Information Center (DIC) cycles, release the unlock button.
Turn the key to the OFF position and remove the key.
The key fob should now operate both doors.

Red Devil

02-18-2005, 08:57 PM

· Information on Intermittent Loss of Radio Speakers/Sound When Played at Very High Volume - Normal Condition/Design Intent #04-08-44-002 - (Feb 3, 2004)
Information on Intermittent Loss of Radio Speakers/Sound When Played At Very High Volume

2004 Pontiac GTO

Some customers may comment that the radio audio or speakers may turn off intermittently resulting in no sound. This may occur when the radio is played at very high or full volume for an extended period. The radio is designed to shut itself off to protect the amplifier from overheating under such severe usage. When the amplifier cools down, the radio will reset and function normally. This characteristic is NOT a failure of any component. Do not replace the radio for this condition; it is the designed and intended function of the protection circuit.

Important
This characteristic is NOT a failure of any component. Do not replace the radio for this condition, it is the designed and intended function of the protection circuit.

Recommendation
The radio has a built in function that limits distortion. Distortion is the main generator that causes heat buildup in the amplifier. This is a user selectable function that is accessible in the Personalization Programming Menu available through the I/P display. The Dynamic Distortion selection must be turned ON to activate this function. The Dynamic Distortion circuit will limit the radio volume and dynamic range to control distortion at high sound levels. The Dynamic Distortion feature will slightly limit volume and will reduce the heat generated in the amplifier, however, continued operation even with the Dynamic Distortion turned on can result in overheat and radio shut down. Refer to the Owner's Manual for specific instructions to enable this feature. Additionally, you should instruct your customer to keep the Dynamic Distortion feature ON.

Red Devil

02-18-2005, 08:57 PM

· Info - Pre-Delivery and Service Guide #03-00-89-041 - (Nov 19, 2003)
PRE-DELIVERY AND SERVICE GUIDE
2004 Pontiac GTO

FLUIDS AND LUBRICANTS:
Many of the fluids and lubricants specified for the GTO may differ from those used in other GM products. The following chart summarizes some of the most critical fluids/lubricants. Please refer to Service Manual (Document #1318760) and Owner manual for a complete list.

Location
Fluid/Lubricant
Quantity

Fuel
Premium unleaded with a posted octane of 91 or higher
18.5 gallons

Engine Oil
GM Goodwrench Motor Oil SAE 5W-30, GM P/N 12345610, or the equivalent engine oil SAE 5W-30 SJ ILSAC GF-3
6.2 L (6.5 q) with filter change

Engine Coolant
A 50/50 mixture of water and GM Vehicle Care DEX-COOL® Antifreeze, (GM6277M), GM P/N 12346290, or the equivalent DEX-COOL® Antifreeze
14.3L (15.1 q)

Auto Trans Oil
GM Goodwrench Automatic Transmission Fluid -- DEXRON® III, GM P/N 12378470, or the equivalent DEXRON® III Automatic Transmission Fluid
5.0L (5.3 q) service refill

Manual Trans Oil
GM Goodwrench Automatic Transmission Fluid -- DEXRON® III GM P/N 12378470, or the equivalent DEXRON® III Automatic Transmission Fluid
4.4L (4.6 q)

Rear Axle
GM Vehicle Care Synthetic Gear Oil GM P/N 89021809

AND GM Vehicle Care Limited Slip Differential Friction Modifier GM P/N 89021958
1.575L (1.664 q)

0.025L (0.026 q)

Brakes
GM Vehicle Care Brake and Clutch Fluid Super DOT-4, GM P/N 88958860, or the equivalent DOT-4 brake fluid

Power Steering
GM Goodwrench Automatic Transmission Fluid -- DEXRON® III, GM P/N 12378470, or the equivalent DEXRON® III Automatic Transmission Fluid

Wheel Nut Torque
140 N·m (100 lb ft)

SERVICE SUPPORT:

Instrument Cluster
Clusters are not repairable and must be replaced as an assembly. Should a new cluster be required, a replacement part should be ordered from AJR International Inc. AJR will send a pre-exchange unit to the dealership and the dealership will need to return the original cluster. AJR International Inc is located at:

951 North Larch Ave.
Elmhurst, IL 60126
Ph: 800-232-3965 or 630-832-0222
Fax: 630-832-0333

Audio System
Support for the audio system is handled through AJR International Inc. The audio system will be handled on an exchange basis. Use the contact information for AJR indicated above.

BCM
The vehicle Body Control Module has security data recorded during vehicle production. The radio PIN and ignition key code can be accessed from the BCM via the Tech 2®.

**QUALITY PRE-DELIVERY INSPECTION (PDI)**
Performing a quality pre-delivery inspection is one of the most important functions your dealership can do for the customer. Most customers consider the condition of their new vehicle during delivery as a direct reflection of your dealership and your service department. A quality PDI is essential to improving a customer's perception of your dealership and increasing his/her satisfaction with their new vehicle.

Paint Protection
A plastic film known as [lsquo ]Rapguard[rsquo ] is applied to external horizontal painted surfaces to provide protection from ultra violet light, fallout and chemical attack from bird droppings etc. This covering is to be removed within 6 months of the vehicle build date.

Underhood Transit Corrosion Protection
This protection is provided by a urethane coating on all surfaces. This is colorless and does not need to be removed.

Underbody Transit Corrosion Protection
This is a light color spray wax which does not need to be removed, but should this require removal from visible components, dissolve by using " Prepsol" or a similar product.

Loose Parts
A "loose parts" package is provided in the vehicle trunk. This package includes the following components:

Wheel nut caps and wheel covers
Floor mats and retainers
Spare ignition and glovebox compartment keys
License plate attaching bracket and screws
Security data card
Wheel Nut Caps
The wheel nut caps are NOT threaded. Push the wheel nut caps onto the wheel nuts. Use the wheel nut cap removal tool in order to remove the wheel nut caps. The wheel nut cap removal tool stores with the spare tire service equipment in the rear compartment.

Customer Information CD
This CD is shipped with the vehicle and is loaded into the audio CD player. It is important that the CD remain in the CD player until the customer removes it. The cover for the CD should remain in the glovebox. The CD should be explained to the customer during the delivery process.

Security Data Card

Important
The security card includes security data relevant to the security of the vehicle, including radio PIN, key cutting codes and remote key reprogramming code. Please request that the owner keep this card in a safe place, preferably not in the vehicle.

The vehicle security data card is shipped in the loose parts package in the vehicle trunk. It includes critical data for the vehicle including key codes, BCM Security Code, and radio PIN. This should be provided to the customer during the delivery process, and the customer advised to keep it in a safe place. The selling dealership must make a copy of the security card and retain a copy in the sales file. The security information is required any time the battery is disconnected, for instance, during vehicle servicing or repair, the radio PIN will need to be re-entered. The security card is of the same size as a credit card.

Rapgard Removal

Notice
Rapgard may become brittle and difficult to remove if left on the painted surfaces for periods in excess of 6 months. If the vehicle is to be stored for a period greater than this, it is recommended that the Rapgard be removed or paint damage could occur.

Under normal circumstances, the Rapgard film should easily peel away from the surface, and leaves no residue.

Door Edge Protection
The foam blocks are designed to protect the vehicle while in storage or on display. The foam blocks should not be removed until the vehicle is delivered to the owner.

Interior Protection Removal
Within 6 months of the vehicle build date, and prior to vehicle retail delivery, remove all of the components of the interior protection package.

Brake Disc Protection Covers
These impregnated paper covers which are fitted to the brake discs behind the wheels, can be removed by tearing them away from the brake disc area. There is no need to remove the wheels.
Description of covers -- The covers are manufactured from a high strength plastic material with vapor emitting paper attached to the inner surface. They are designed to provide surface corrosion protection and are intended to prevent tearing during vehicle movement in shipping.

License Plate Installation
Certain State laws require the use of a front license plate. A front license plate bracket and instructions are supplied with every vehicle in the loose ship parts box in the trunk.

Set Time Display on Radio

To set the correct time, press the [lsquo ]Time[rsquo ] button on the radio to reveal time display. Hold for two seconds. The display will show [lsquo ]TIME ADJ[rsquo ] and the time will flash.
To adjust hours, press SEEK/TRACK button.
To adjust minutes, press the TUNE button.
Front Suspension Chocks
The chocks are fitted to both the front suspension springs to raise the suspension height during new vehicle shipment. These must be removed before the vehicle is driven on public roads. While the vehicle is on a hoist for the under body inspection, remove the front suspension chocks. Once the vehicle[rsquo ]s weight is removed from the wheels and the wheel is hanging, the chock can be grasped and twisted out for removal.

Tire Pressure
Tires are inflated to 60 psi at the Assembly Plant for transportation. This will also prevent flat spotting of tires when left in storage for prolonged periods, but is not suitable for normal driving. Ensure this pressure is maintained while the car is kept in storage. Deflate tires to pressures indicated on the placard on the rear face of the driver's side door prior to retail delivery.

**PDI Checklist**

Remove the paint film protection -- ensure door edge foam blocks remain in place

Inspect the following contents of the "loose items" pack, and fit components to vehicle

Wheel nut caps and wheel covers
Floor mats and retainers
Spare keys
Security data card
License plate bracket and screws

Copy the security data card and retain security data in a safe place

Remove all interior protection

Remove the brake rotor protective covers

Remove the front suspension shipping chocks

Ensure customer information CD is in the audio CD player

Set the clock time on the radio

Set tire pressures.
**Important**
The maximum specifications are found on the tire placard located on the rear face of the driver's side door. For best ride quality, GM recommends the tire pressures be set to 30 psi.

Inspect fluid levels. Add the following fluids if necessary:

Coolant
Engine Oil
Brake Fluid
Clutch Fluid
Automatic Transmission Fluid
Power Steering Fluid
Windshield Washer Fluid

Red Devil

02-18-2005, 08:58 PM

· Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) On, Transmission Stuck in Second or Third Gear, Instrumend Cluster Inoperative (Replace Ignition Switch) #01-07-30-002D - (Oct 19, 2004)
Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) On, Transmission Stuck in Second or Third Gear, Instrument Cluster Inoperative (Replace Ignition Switch)

2004-2005 Pontiac GTO

with 4L60-E or 4L65-E Automatic Transmission

This bulletin is being revised to update model years, add additional models and 4L80/85 Transmission Information. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 01-07-30-002C (Section 07 -- Transmission/Transaxle).

Condition
Some customers may comment on one or more of the following conditions:

The Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) is ON.
The transmission is defaulted to second gear (4L80/85-E).
The transmission is defaulted to third gear (4L60/65-E).
The instrument cluster is inoperative.
Upon investigation, one or all of the diagnostic trouble codes (DTCs) P0740, P0753, P0758, P0785, P0787, P0973, P0976, P1860, P2761, P2764 and P2769 may be set depending on the vehicle.

Cause
The most likely cause of this condition may be a loss of voltage to the transmission on circuit 1020. This loss of power may be caused by an open in the ignition switch. This condition may also be the result of an incorrect installation of an aftermarket electronic device such as a remote starter or alarm system.

Correction
With the ignition switch in the RUN position, test for battery voltage at the appropriate fuse listed below.

2004-2005
Pontiac GTO
AUTO TRANS

If battery voltage is present at the fuse, inspect the ignition voltage circuit between the fuse and the transmission for possible opens. If battery voltage is not present at the fuse, replace the ignition switch using the Ignition Switch Replacement procedure in the Steering Wheel and Column sub-section of the applicable Service Manual. Refer to group number 2.188 of the parts catalog for part description and usage.

If the vehicle is equipped with an aftermarket electronic device and the DTCs are being set when the device is being used, verify that the appropriate fuse listed above is being supplied battery voltage during operation. If voltage is not present at this fuse, these DTCs will be set due to lack of voltage at the solenoids. This condition is most likely to occur with an incorrectly installed remote starting system. If this is the case, refer the customer to the installer of the system for corrections.

Parts are currently available from GMSPO.

Warranty Information
For vehicles repaired under warranty, use:

Labor Operation

N2328
Switch, Ignition Key/Key Warning - Replace
Use published labor operation time

N6630
Wiring and/or Connector, Transmission – Repair

ULTIMATEORANGESS

03-27-2005, 05:44 PM

GMHTP mentioned something about a faulty temp. sensor causing a false reading.

did you mention that in here or have you heard about it?

HRJ

03-31-2005, 09:24 AM

Speedometer Erratic Movement, Fuel Gauge Does Not Go to Full After Filling, Engine Coolant Temperature Gauge Reads Hot and Coolant Temperature Light Illuminates (Reprogram IPC) #05-08-49-003 - (Jan 20, 2005)

2004 Pontiac GTO

Built Prior to VIN Breakpoint 4L296011

Condition
Some customers may comment on one or more of the following conditions:

• Speedometer jumps erratically. Gauge may go up to 200 MPH or not return to zero.

• Fuel gauge does not move off empty when tank is full.

• Engine coolant temperature gauge reads hot and coolant temperature light illuminates.

These conditions may be intermittent.

Correction
Technicians are to reprogram the IPC with an updated software calibration. This new service calibration was released with TIS satellite data update version 1.0 available January 10, 2005. As always, make sure your Tech 2® is updated with the latest software version.

Important: Vehicles built after the VIN breakpoint must have the IPC replaced to correct these conditions

HRJ

04-13-2005, 11:12 AM

Rough Motion Felt During Front Seat Movement (Install Seat Track Dampener) #05-08-50-006 - (Apr 8, 2005)
Rough Motion Felt During Front Seat Movement (Install Seat Track Dampener)
2004 Pontiac GTO

Built Prior to VIN Breakpoint 4L397250

Condition
Some customers may comment that rough motion can be felt during front seat forward and rearward movements.

Correction
To smooth the forward and rearward operation of the seat, install a seat track dampener to both front seats using the procedure listed below.

Move the seat to the mid-position using the seat controls. Mid-position is when the front of the track rails are level.
Raise the seat to the full up position using the seat controls.

For older vehicles that do not have the cable tray-style wiring harness (built prior to March 2004), release the seat cushion cover flap J-clip.
Remove the side cover.
Remove the two front seat frame-to-cushion mounting nuts.
Important: Take care not to overstretch any of the wires when you tilt the seat backward.

Tilt the seat backward. On vehicles with the seat cushion cover flap, the flap will catch on the track assembly. It is not necessary to completely remove the flap as this will protect the wires from being stretched too far.

On later vehicles with the cable tray-style wiring harness (built after March 2004), unclip the cable tray from the track by lifting the front clips. Pull the cable tray forward to disengage the rear clips.

Position the dampener, P/N 92138926, by aligning the retaining tang over the motor mount flange and the friction pads over the drive shaft.

Tap the dampener retaining tang into place with a hammer.

The illustration above shows the dampener in its final position.
Reinstall the cable tray, if applicable.

Move the track until the driveshaft V-grooves are in the upper position.

Important: In the next step, be sure to place paper under the area to protect the carpet from any drips.

Apply Permatex® 68040, GM P/N 12377901, or equivalent, to the groove until half-filled and work into the joint under the plastic spacer.
Operate the seat back and forth several times for a distance of 100 mm (4 in). After this, DO NOT operate the seat for at least 1 hour to allow the Permatex® to set.
Lower the seat cushion onto the mounts and reinstall the nuts.

Tighten
Tighten the nuts to 28N·m(21 lb ft).

Reattach the cover flap where applicable.
Reinstall the side cover.
Repeat this procedure on the other front seat

HRJ

04-13-2005, 11:12 AM

Front Seat Does Not Move Forward When Lever is Unlatched (Replace Micro Switch Assembly) #05-08-50-005 - (Apr 4, 2005)
Front Seat Does Not Move Forward When Lever Is Unlatched (Replace Micro Switch Assembly)
2004 Pontiac GTO

Condition
Some customers may comment that the front seat does not move forward when the "easy entry" lever is unlatched and the seat back is tilted forward.

Cause
This condition may be caused by poor retention of the micro switch in its housing. If the switch is loose, the "easy entry" lever cam will fail to activate the switch.

Correction
Replace the micro switch assembly. Refer to Front Seat Back Position Switch Housing Assembly in SI (Document ID #1609630).

Parts Information
Part Number
Description

92148933
Retainer, Power Seat Switch/Wiring (RH)

92148934
Retainer, Power Seat Switch/Wiring (LH)

HRJ

04-13-2005, 11:13 AM

Low Tire Pressure, Leaking Cast Aluminum Wheels (Repair with Adhesive Sealant) #05-03-10-003 - (Mar 31, 2005)
Low Tire Pressure, Leaking Cast Aluminum Wheels (Repair with Adhesive Sealant)

with Cast Aluminum Wheels

Condition
Some customers may comment on a low tire pressure condition.

Diagnosis of the low tire pressure condition indicates an air leak through the cast aluminum wheel.

Cause
Porosity in the cast aluminum wheel may be the cause.

Correction
Remove the tire and wheel assembly from the vehicle. Refer to the appropriate service procedure in SI.
Locate the leaking area by inflating the tire to 276 kPa (40 psi) and dipping the tire/wheel assembly in a water bath, or use a spray bottle with soap and water to locate the specific leak location.
Important:

• If the porosity leak is located in the bead area of the aluminum rim (where the tire meets the rim), the wheel should be replaced.

• If two or more leaks are located on one wheel, the wheel should be replaced.

If air bubbles are observed, mark the location.
- If the leak location is on the tire/rubber area, refer to Corporate Bulletin Number 04-03-10-001A or newer - Tire Puncture Repair Procedures for All Cars and Light Duty Trucks (SI Document ID #1573203).

- If the leak is located on the aluminum wheel area, continue with the next step.

Inscribe a mark on the tire at the valve stem in order to indicate the orientation of the tire to the wheel.
Dismount the tire from the wheel. Refer to Tire Mounting and Dismounting (SI Document ID #1332544).
Scuff the INSIDE rim surface at the leak area with #80 grit paper and clean the area with general purpose cleaner, such as 3M® General Purpose Adhesive Cleaner, P/N 08984, or equivalent.
Apply a 3 mm (0.12 in) thick layer of Silicone - Adhesive/Sealant, GM P/N 12378478 (Canadian P/N 10953493) or equivalent, to the leak area.
Allow for the adhesive/sealant to dry.
Notice: Caution must be used when mounting the tire so as not to damage the sealer. Damaging the repair area may result in an air leak.

Align the inscribed mark on the tire with the valve stem on the wheel.
Mount the tire on the wheel. Refer to Tire Mounting and Dismounting (SI Document ID #1332544).
Pressurize the tire to 276 kPa (40 psi) and inspect for leaks.
Adjust tire pressure to meet the placard specification.
Balance the tire/wheel assembly. Refer to Tire and Wheel Assembly Balancing - Off-Vehicle (SI Document ID #664222).
Install the tire and wheel assembly onto the vehicle. Refer to the appropriate service procedure in SI.

JohnnyZ28

06-23-2005, 01:22 PM

Anything about the throttle body? Some people have reported it doesn't feel like the car is opening up all the way.

HRJ

06-23-2005, 02:14 PM

Anything about the throttle body? Some people have reported it doesn't feel like the car is opening up all the way.
nope

The Phantom

07-18-2005, 08:18 PM

I have a quick question that I hope isn't among the dumbest ones out there. ;)

If the TSB says it's for cars prior to my VIN breakpoint, and if I experience what the TSB describes, would my car still be covered? I know, for instance, the erratic gauge movement TSB mentions that, for vehicles after the breakpoint, the cluster has to be replaced. Most of the other ones say no such thing. If I hear a clunk in my trunk, should it still be covered, even though my car is newer than the VIN breakpoint? And, is the clunk in the TSB regarding the rear suspension knock?

Thanks!

-Troy

bluerovergoat

07-21-2005, 04:57 PM

Is there a T.S.B. on paint peeling from the front and rear fascias? I've heard there was, but I have no idea what it details.

Thanks

TorridGoat

07-21-2005, 06:05 PM

There is. I saw it listed on the NHTSA website. They give the number and description, but no details.

Make : PONTIAC Model : GTO Year : 2004
Manufacturer : GENERAL MOTORS CORP.
Service Bulletin Num : 09072004 Date of Bulletin: SEP 07, 2004
NHTSA Item Number: 10013191
Component: STRUCTURE:BODY
Summary:
PAINT PEELING FROM THE FRONT OR REAR FASCIAS. *EH

RobertHammen

07-21-2005, 06:42 PM

I have a quick question that I hope isn't among the dumbest ones out there. ;)

If the TSB says it's for cars prior to my VIN breakpoint, and if I experience what the TSB describes, would my car still be covered?

My first car had the "clunk in the trunk" - the dealer could see where the drivetrain was hitting the chassis - even though my May build date was beyond the April cutoff in the TSB.

They ordered the parts per the TSB, and it (mostly) fixed the problem... so, I would say "yes", at least relating to this particular TSB.

--Robert

7GTOJoe

07-24-2005, 07:07 AM

I do have some of the paint peeling problem on the rear fascia. It is only on one corner. Like something oily was there before the paint was sparyed. JP

WickedGoat

08-14-2005, 06:05 AM

Rockit_GTO

08-16-2005, 07:52 AM

Is there a service bulletin for the squeeking front brakes? I read on here that someone said there was and had his front pads replaced for free. Just wondering because mine are squeeking and it needs to go back in for the steering wheel radio controls.

I'll let you know today or tomorrow. I took mine in last week for several items and this was one of them. Hopefully, I should have it back soon. Waiting on parts from the Roo factory.

nsofokles

08-16-2005, 10:41 AM

Rockit_GTO

08-19-2005, 06:47 AM

Is there anything on the freakin a/c noises...sounds like a rattleing heat shield when the a/c is on and car in reverse...also whenever the fan is on the is a tapping sound...like tick tick tick tick tick

anything like that?

You sure it's not the brake booster mentioned above. I had similar noises and that was the problem. Actually, I've had every problem listed here and then some. :judge:

Rockit_GTO

08-23-2005, 08:50 AM

Is there a service bulletin for the squeeking front brakes? I read on here that someone said there was and had his front pads replaced for free. Just wondering because mine are squeeking and it needs to go back in for the steering wheel radio controls.

On mine, thye just had to turn the rotors and it cured the squeeking. It was covered under warranty.

newagegto

08-29-2005, 04:01 PM

On mine, thye just had to turn the rotors and it cured the squeeking. It was covered under warranty.
is there anything about the water leak at bottom door under the speaker when parked at an angle?
:huh:

TprGTO-[Robo Fuzz]

08-30-2005, 05:28 PM

http://www.alldata.com/TSB/48/044818iS.html

04-08-49-005A FEB 05 Instruments - Fuel Gauge Needle Stuck in One Position
05-06-02-001 FEB 05 Cooling System - Aluminum Radiator/Heater Core Info.
04-08-46-003A FEB 05 OnStar(R) - Unable to Connect (Alaska Vehicles)
05-08-44-005 FEB 05 Audio System - Rear Headphone Ear Pads Worn/Damaged
01-08-42-001B FEB 05 Lighting - Replacement Guidelines for Condensation
00-07-30-009A FEB 05 A/T - New/Reman A/T Identification
00-08-46-003B FEB 05 Instruments - GPS System Performance Degradation
03-09-41-003A FEB 05 Restraints - Air Bag System Diagnostics
04-07-30-013A JAN 05 A/T - Shift/Driveability Concerns/SES Lamp ON
04-08-48-001A JAN 05 A/C - Rear Defogger Heating Grid Damage Detection
03-08-44-005C JAN 05 A/C - Rear Defogger Inoperative/Radio Interference
04-06-03-016 DEC 04 Battery - Specification Label Clarification
00-07-30-022C DEC 04 A/T - 4L60/65E No Reverse/2nd or 4th Gear
01-07-30-041A DEC 04 A/T - Fluid Leak Diagnostics
04-03-10-001A NOV 04 Tires - Puncture Repair Procedures
04-08-46-003 NOV 04 OnStar(R) - Unable to Connect to OnStar (Alaska Only)
99-08-51-007B NOV 04 Wheels - Aluminum Wheel Refinishing
03-07-29-004A NOV 04 M/T - Operational Characteristics
04-03-10-013 OCT 04 Drivetrain - Rear Drive Characteristics/Winter Tires
01-01-38-006D SEP 04 A/C - R-134a System Flushing Procedures
04-07-30-037 SEP 04 A/T - Dexron® III(R) (H-Revision) Specification Upgrade
02-07-30-052C SEP 04 A/T - Fluid Flushing Procedure/Tool
00-08-48-005A SEP 04 Body - Distortion in Outer Surface of Vehicle Glass
04-05-22-001 SEP 04 Brakes - Whistle Noise With Brakes Applied When Stopped
04-08-68-002 SEP 04 Cruise Control - Increasing Set Speed
04-08-68-003 SEP 04 Cruise Control - Knock or 'Thud' Noise
04-06-03-006 SEP 04 Electrical - Proper Jump Starting Procedure
04-06-04-051A SEP 04 Fuel System - Maintenance Cleaning of Fuel Injectors
04-08-49-023 SEP 04 Instruments - Speedometer MPH Indicator Too Bright
01-07-31-002A SEP 04 M/T - Improved Hydraulic Clutch Bleeding Procedure
99-09-40-005B SEP 04 Restraint System - Seat Belt Extender Availability
01-07-30-036D SEP 04 Transmission Controls - DTC P0756 Diagnostic Tips
04-03-10-012 SEP 04 Wheels - Chrome Wheel Pitting/Brake Dust Accumulation
04-03-08-014 AUG 04 Suspension - Front Suspension Knocking Noise on Bumps
04-08-64-018 AUG 04 Body - Front Door Lock Won't Lock/Locks Intermittently
04-07-31-005 AUG 04 M/T - Clutch Pressure Plate Wear Indicator Adjustment
04-07-31-004 AUG 04 M/T - Clutch Actuator Bleeder Screw Alignment
01-07-30-010A AUG 04 A/T - Torque Converter Replacement Guideline
02-06-03-008A JUL 04 Charging System - Operational Characteristics
04-07-30-025A JUL 04 A/T - 4L60-E/-4L65E No Shift/Slipping/Fluid Leaks
00-00-89-027B JUL 04 Interior - Odor Elimination
02-06-03-010A JUL 04 Battery - Parasitic Drain
04-07-31-003 JUN 04 M/T - Loss of Clutch/Low Pedal Height/Hard to Shift
04-06-00-047 JUN 04 Fuel - Top Tier Detergent Gasoline Information
04-06-04-045 JUN 04 Instruments - Oil Life Monitoring System
04-08-52-006 JUN 04 Keyless Entry - Operating Characteristics
04-07-30-028 JUN 04 A/T - Reverse Servo Cover Seal Leak
00-06-01-026A JUN 04 Engine - New Long Block Installation Precaution
02-08-44-007A JUN 04 XM Radio/OnStar - Problems W/Cloth or Vinyl Roofs
00-03-10-002C JUN 04 Wheels - Chemical Stains on Chrome Wheels
01-07-30-030A MAY 04 A/T - 4L60-E/4L65-E Harsh 1-2 Upshift
04-06-04-036 MAY 04 Engine Controls - Reprogramming Warranty Info.
04-07-30-023 MAY 04 A/T - 4L60-E/4L65-E New Pump/Seal/Case/Service
04-08-42-008 APR 04 Lighting - Headlamp Aiming Procedure
04-02-35-007 APR 04 Steering Wheel - Paint Peeling From Spokes
04-03-09-003A APR 04 Suspension - Knock From Vehicle Rear on Launch
04-08-63-004 APR 04 Body - Engine Compartment Dirtier Than Expected
04-06-01-013 APR 04 Engine - Serpentine Drive Belt Wear Information
04-03-09-002 MAR 04 Suspension - Clunk Noise From Rear on Hard Launch
04-01-39-011 MAR 04 A/C - Refrigerant Leak at Condenser Connection
04-06-04-016 MAR 04 Engine Controls/A/C - Revised DTC Diagnostics
04-07-31-002 FEB 04 M/T - Clutch Fluid Reservoir Appears Discolored
00-06-02-006A FEB 04 Cooling System - Coolant Information
02-07-30-001A FEB 04 A/T - 4L60E and 4L65E DTC P0894/P1870 Diagnostics
04-07-30-006 FEB 04 A/T - 4L65E, 4L60E, 4L60, 200-4R Oil Pump Spring
04-08-44-002 FEB 04 Audio System - Speakers Shut-Off at High Volume
01-07-30-038B JAN 04 A/T - 4L60-E/4L65-E MIL ON/DTC P0757/Slipping
02-06-05-004A JAN 04 Emissions - Catalytic Converter Damage/Misfire Codes Set
04-01-37-001 JAN 04 A/C - Control Knob Replacement Availability
04-08-58-001 JAN 04 Body - Outside Rearview Mirror Wind Noise
04-08-50-001 JAN 04 Interior - Driver/Passenger Seat Squeaks
03-08-44-023 JAN 04 Audio System - Stuck CD Removal Precaution
03-00-89-021 JUL 03 Instruments - DIC Perceived Fuel Economy Settings

McCarron

10-03-2005, 01:49 PM

On mine, thye just had to turn the rotors and it cured the squeeking. It was covered under warranty.

My dealership is fighting with me tooth and nail about getting the brakes fixed. They claim it's normal for all GTOs to exhibit this noise. And without a TSB to get this fixed, I will be SOL.

Wipeout

10-03-2005, 03:16 PM

04-08-46-003A FEB 05 OnStar(R) - Unable to Connect (Alaska Vehicles)

Sure these are for the GTO? They don't come onstar equipped.

Wipeout

10-03-2005, 03:18 PM

Is there a service bulletin for the squeeking front brakes? I read on here that someone said there was and had his front pads replaced for free. Just wondering because mine are squeeking and it needs to go back in for the steering wheel radio controls.

04-05-22-001 SEP 04 Brakes - Whistle Noise With Brakes Applied When Stopped

Maybe??

McCarron

10-04-2005, 08:45 AM

04-05-22-001 SEP 04 Brakes - Whistle Noise With Brakes Applied When Stopped

Maybe??

No, thats with the car stopped. There are no TSBs for brake squealing.

Last night when I picked up my car, I was told by the Service Manager that the squeaking of the breaks is the "VEHICLE OPERATING TO DESIGN." That's the quote written on my service report. I talked to him on the phone and he told be basically that all GTOs have loud squealling breaks, and GM has told them not to do anything about it. I asked if we could take another new GTO out for a spin and show me the same noise, which they couldn't do because they have none on the lot (except the one the owner keeps in his own private show room).

Funny how no other GTOs I've seen exhibit this problem, only a select few menioned here above me. My problems started happening around 1,000 miles on the car and it progressively gets worse. Now at 6,000 it's a high pitched squeal when brakes are applied, I have to slam on the brakes for them to make no noise. I can even hear them through the cabin with the windows up, with the windows down all passengers tell me to get my brakes looked at.

I hate it because it's getting people to turn heads for the wrong reason, they hear what sounds like a terrible set of brakes that pierce their ears, turn and see my brand new GTO causing all the noise. A new car should not have a problem like this in such short amount of time. They told me that if I didn't want the noise to buy new brake pads from somewhere else.

The Phantom

10-04-2005, 08:49 AM

When I first got my GTO last year, I heard a slight squeal when I'd brake, but that went away once the linings got broken in.

I noticed it on my friend's Goat as well.

McCarron

10-04-2005, 08:50 AM

When I first got my GTO last year, I heard a slight squeal when I'd brake, but that went away once the linings got broken in.

I noticed it on my friend's Goat as well.

6,000 miles now, it should be well broken in by now. The squeal started really early on, and I've been patient with them fixing it. They keep telling me it's fixed, and now instead they are telling me they wont fix it.

The Phantom

10-04-2005, 08:55 AM

Well, it's obviously a friction squeal. I don't think there's much they'll be able to do for it short of what you've already been told--go aftermarket.

I wouldn't discount the break-in, though. I have almost 30,000 miles on mine, so back when I noticed it, it was probably about 5-6,000 miles as well. I'd like to tell you to be patient, but I know it sucks to have sounds emanating from your vehicle that shouldn't be.

Good luck regardless.

gto_in_nc

10-04-2005, 09:17 AM

Sure these are for the GTO? They don't come onstar equipped.

Mine doesn't have rear headphones either...

bnvus

10-04-2005, 10:20 AM

You can do it the old fashioned way. Scuff up the rotor and pad surface with some sandpaper.

Joe6pt0

12-13-2005, 06:31 AM

My old DHS had a terrible brake dust problem(factory brakes). When it would start squealing real bad, I would use my pressure washer through the wheel opening and spray off all the brake dust and the squeal would go away for a month or two. Might have been the brake dust material on the pads, or the fact that I "roughed" the rotors up by letting the water hit them and rust a bit but it worked. Just somethign to think about :)

On the topic, I found these for the 05s, any detailed info on them? (some look like generic GM TSBs not related)

Automotive Recall and Technical Service Bulletin Titles for 2005 Pontiac GTO V8-6.0L VIN U.

Service Bulletins
TSB Number & Issue Date TSB Title
02-07-30-001C MAY 05 A/T - DTC's P0894 and P01870 Diagnostic Information
05-06-04-035 MAY 05 Fuel System - E85 Fuel Usage Recommendations/Precautions
01-08-42-001C MAY 05 Exterior Lamps - Condensation Replacement Guidelines
05-06-02-002 MAY 05 Cooling System - Coolant Dye Update Information
05-06-01-014 MAY 05 Engine - Oil Leaks In Extreme Cold Temperatures
05-08-44-013 MAY 05 Audio System - Erratic Steering Wheel Control Function
00-08-46-002A APR 05 OnStar(R) - Cellular Antenna Replacement Parts
05-03-10-003 MAR 05 Aluminum Wheels - Low Tire Pressure Condition
05-06-03-002 MAR 05 Battery/Charging System - Electrical Diagnostics
03-05-24-001A MAR 05 Brakes - Wheel Cylinder Inspection Guidelines
04-06-04-047D MAR 05 Fuel System - Top Tier Gasoline Recommendations
05-06-04-022 MAR 05 Fuel System - Top Tier Gasolines (Canada)
02-08-46-006A MAR 05 OnStar(R) - Incorrect Position Reported
05-09-40-002 MAR 05 Restraints - Seat Belt Locking Conditions
00-05-22-002E MAR 05 Brakes - Service Guidelines/Procedures
05-08-46-004 MAR 05 OnStar(R) - Phone Number Concerns
05-06-01-010 MAR 05 Engine - Sealant Usage Recommendations

04M6IPB

12-22-2005, 02:32 PM

http://www.alldata.com/TSB/48/044818iS.html

03-07-29-004A NOV 04 M/T - Operational Characteristics

Does anyone know is this or another TSB has any info on being able to shift to Reverse when over 3 MPH? As in when going down the highway over 50MPH.

1meangto

01-09-2006, 05:49 PM

anybody had a problem with there headlights not turning off when left in auto mode?? the 05's in the shop for the 2nd time about this, is there a tsb or ne thing out there???

Holeshot

01-09-2006, 05:54 PM

anybody had a problem with there headlights not turning off when left in auto mode?? the 05's in the shop for the 2nd time about this, is there a tsb or ne thing out there???
LIL GTO had issues with her's But she has an 04;)

The Phantom

01-10-2006, 02:31 AM

Well, mine are on a delay when it's dark. Whether in Auto or On, they'll turn off after thirty seconds. So mine work normally.

I'm guessing yours stay on indefinitely?

Cyclone Chris

01-10-2006, 02:41 AM

They need a TSB for the uncommanded horn beep. It's the fifth time this has happened to me during the last 2-3 months.

1meangto

01-10-2006, 03:29 AM

there is i think, about the horn beeping, my headlights yeah just stay onwent outside 3 hours later on friday night and they were still on

Joe6pt0

01-10-2006, 03:50 AM

there is i think, about the horn beeping, my headlights yeah just stay onwent outside 3 hours later on friday night and they were still on

Mine did it too one time right after I got it. It happened in the driveway when I washed it for the first time. I can't remember the conditions but I seem to remember someone on here posting up what caused it to be repeatable (something about the door open or parking brake when ignition went off??).

ZQ8

01-10-2006, 03:58 AM

anybody had a problem with there headlights not turning off when left in auto mode?? the 05's in the shop for the 2nd time about this, is there a tsb or ne thing out there???

YES, there is a TSB just for this.

cquist

01-10-2006, 04:30 AM

6,000 miles now, it should be well broken in by now. The squeal started really early on, and I've been patient with them fixing it. They keep telling me it's fixed, and now instead they are telling me they wont fix it.
I had the same problem. It was coming from the rear. They replaced the pads and no more squeling. The used service bulliten P101883 for a free replacement. Part # used was 92210619.

1meangto

01-11-2006, 03:45 PM

so dealer tells me that gm knows about the problem, something with an update for the pcm. tells me it could be next week or up to 2 months before they have it done, so just have to deal with it for now i guess

The Phantom

01-11-2006, 03:49 PM

They need a TSB for the uncommanded horn beep. It's the fifth time this has happened to me during the last 2-3 months.
My friend has mentioned this very thing. Is it a slight thing, or an actual honk? I think his was an actual honk, if I remember correctly.

I almost feel bad because right after I bought my car, he traded his Honda Prelude in for a GTO and is having all sorts of little problems.

Cyclone Chris

01-11-2006, 03:58 PM

My friend has mentioned this very thing. Is it a slight thing, or an actual honk? I think his was an actual honk, if I remember correctly.

I almost feel bad because right after I bought my car, he traded his Honda Prelude in for a GTO and is having all sorts of little problems.

It's as if you tapped the horn. A quick Honk.... does anyone have the TSB for this?

COBGTO

01-11-2006, 04:25 PM

It's as if you tapped the horn. A quick Honk.... does anyone have the TSB for this?
Mine does the same thing...it sounds like the horn is burping...what is gm saying....it honks on it's own at least once a day!:confused:

Cyclone Chris

01-11-2006, 04:26 PM

Mine does the same thing...it sounds like the horn is burping...what is gm saying....it honks on it's own at least once a day!:confused:

Haven't taken it to the dealer about that problem yet. Mine is not as often, just about 5 times in the last 2 months

bluerovergoat

01-11-2006, 06:53 PM

Mine does the same thing...it sounds like the horn is burping...what is gm saying....it honks on it's own at least once a day!:confused:
Sounds as if there is a loose NUT behind your wheel:gr_jest:

DanM

01-17-2006, 08:23 PM

anybody had a problem with there headlights not turning off when left in auto mode?? the 05's in the shop for the 2nd time about this, is there a tsb or ne thing out there???

I have an 05 and have experienced this 4-5 times.

COBGTO

01-18-2006, 06:26 AM

Sounds as if there is a loose NUT behind your wheel:gr_jest:

Maybe, it's a result of that loose knuckle bolt..hmm????:shiner:

COBGTO

01-18-2006, 06:27 AM

I have an 05 and have experienced this 4-5 times.
Has GM issued a bulletin for this yet...happened to me again today...right after I started driving the car and it was warmed up!:eek2:

fordolet

01-19-2006, 11:11 AM

anybody had a problem with there headlights not turning off when left in auto mode?? the 05's in the shop for the 2nd time about this, is there a tsb or ne thing out there???

Yes I have, on an 04. I noticed it happen everytime i turn the car off and coast to a stop then set the e-brake. If i stop, ebrake then shut car off it never happens! :driving:

fordolet

01-19-2006, 11:12 AM

COBGTO

01-25-2006, 04:15 PM

Has any TSB been issued yet for the inadvertent horn beep/burp...my Goat beeped at me tonight when I was filling up with gas!

Chrissy :(

Cyclone Chris

01-26-2006, 12:31 AM

Has any TSB been issued yet for the inadvertent horn beep/burp...my Goat beeped at me tonight when I was filling up with gas!

Chrissy :(

It was telling you it was thirsty....or pumping some nasty gas in it. LOL. Dude, I have the same problem 3 times in 2 months so far.

razzle

01-26-2006, 09:15 PM

Yes I have, on an 04. I noticed it happen everytime i turn the car off and coast to a stop then set the e-brake. If i stop, then shut car off it never happens! :driving:
I noticed the same thing with my 04, thought I was imagining it.

06GTO

02-11-2006, 10:11 PM

Has anyone heard of a tach sticking on a 2006 Automatic GTO? My tach sticks in gear but not when reving. I am a GM Asst. Service Manager and I have not found any TSB's. I will speak with a GM Engineer on Monday when it is put into the shop. Please Email me and let me know if anyone else has experienced this condition, I have already had the cluster replaced.
Thanks

berjet

03-02-2006, 07:09 AM

Anyone have the TSB text for the rear cradle (subframe) alignment? It is new.

Prediter

03-26-2006, 06:52 PM

Stupid question #42. How do you get TSB's ?

camaronx

03-27-2006, 03:20 PM

Sure these are for the GTO? They don't come onstar equipped.

06's do have onstar

speed_demon_freak

04-10-2006, 03:51 PM

Any more updates? I need a list to give my dealer when i drop off my car.

Cool_Hand_Luke

04-25-2006, 12:28 PM

Unfortunately if the dealer or customer service dept. can't find these TSBs on their computer they often can't/won't help you. I'm not sure if they are selective on finding these or they just don't know where to look.

I hope it is just a communication problem and not an premeditated effort by GM to keep info hidden and screw the consumer.

HawaiianGoat

04-25-2006, 11:40 PM

Interesting that our Pontiac Dealers cannot find these TSBs while we can find the lists of GTO TSBs at multiple public locations like Edmunds.com and NHTSA.gov. How hard are they looking? Even if they cannot find them, they should be able to call Pontiac TAC to find the relevant TSB for a problem. To help the Pontiac Service Dept, I have printed out the TSBs related to my GTO's problems in the event they cannot find them.

By the way, thanks to everyone who has posted the full text of the GTO TSBs here. This information is very helpful when talking to the local Pontiac Service Advisor and is GREATLY appreciated! Knowledge is power.

Unfortunately if the dealer or customer service dept. can't find these TSBs on their computer they often can't/won't help you. I'm not sure if they are selective on finding these or they just don't know where to look.

I hope it is just a communication problem and not an premeditated effort by GM to keep info hidden and screw the consumer.

speed_demon_freak

04-26-2006, 05:53 AM

I went to the dealer complaining about some problems listed on the TSB. Dealer said they couldnt duplicate the problem.

The only thing they fixed was the Speedo/fuel gauge fix.

LS2Goat

04-26-2006, 10:00 AM

06's do have onstar

When did this happen? I don't see that as an option for the model anywhere. I've not even heard of it.:confused:

EDIT

--n/m, used the search and found it.. Wow.. Anyone like the OnStar in the Goat? I had it in my Z71, but didn't really use it.

HRJ

04-26-2006, 10:23 AM

When did this happen? I don't see that as an option for the model anywhere. I've not even heard of it.:confused:

EDIT

--n/m, used the search and found it.. Wow.. Anyone like the OnStar in the Goat? I had it in my Z71, but didn't really use it.
The 2004-2006 GTOs do not come with Onstar. None of them.

LS2Goat

04-26-2006, 10:30 AM

The 2004-2006 GTOs do not come with Onstar. None of them.

I thought that too... which really shocked me when I saw this:

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66551&highlight=OnStar

Hey guys, i just bought a new 06 gto.........i desire to disable my onstar system on this car

:confused:

Most others in the thread asked the same "wtf?" about it. I've never seen one.

smyla

05-08-2006, 07:08 AM

I thought that too... which really shocked me when I saw this:

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66551&highlight=OnStar

:confused:

Most others in the thread asked the same "wtf?" about it. I've never seen one.

I'll believe it when I see a pic. (and maybe not even then)

CARBUFF

05-10-2006, 11:29 AM

ram09

05-10-2006, 11:44 AM

HJR
do you know if when a dealer tries this and is unsuccessful and orders a pair of seat tracks, will they be of the faster generation where the seats move faster like in the 06's?
my dealer tried this fix and wound up telling me he ordered new seat tracks n motor assy's

THE 06 SEATS MOVE FASTER? I WANT THAT SETUP MINE ARE SLOW AS HELL AND I CAN FEEL THE ROUGH MOTION. THOUGHT IT WAS NORMAL, JUST WISH I WOULD HAVE KNOWN THIS EARLIER, I JUST GOT MY CAR BACK ABOUT AN HOUR AGO.

zero

06-13-2006, 02:58 PM

06's do have onstar
I must have been ripped off. Nor is it available on the build a gto specs page.

berjet

06-13-2006, 03:04 PM

fat nick

06-13-2006, 03:13 PM

This TSB with auto lights, will they still cover it if it kinda doesn't have a warranty. I mean I have a cam/tune/shift light mods. It's happened to me about 15 times. I always watch to see if they cut off luckily.

camaronx

06-14-2006, 11:52 AM

I must have been ripped off. Nor is it available on the build a gto specs page.
Ya it was on the the vheicles equipped with onstar page for like the first month of the year--and then was quickly taken off and gto is no longer on the list--so o6 gto's "do not have onstar"

zero

06-23-2006, 02:07 PM

just came from the dealer.. had a brand new GTO just built and shipped.. had everything you can get.. no onstar.. asked.. they checked.. cant get onstar. TUck it in and say good night.. its been put to bed.

Coop43

07-18-2006, 12:31 PM

Anyone find a TSB on paint peeling from the door handle edges?

RobertHammen

07-18-2006, 12:35 PM

Coop, I don't think this is a TSB, but this is a known problem on these boards. Search, print out, and take to your dealer. I know LordGrinz had this problem, among others...

zero

07-21-2006, 10:35 PM

Anyone find a TSB on paint peeling from the door handle edges?

I cant imagine that would be a TSB issue.. maybe..
but its a poor finish issue.. regular warranty.. not a troublesome item that needs special attention or service manual editing.

reffumtaerg1

07-25-2006, 03:55 PM

I've had my cluster replaced three times by the dealer I purchased my "Comeback kid" from. I was told about this site and I believe this is my firs reply to any post. Look'n forward to learn and share more...

Jared H

08-06-2006, 07:05 PM

Wimplo

08-09-2006, 10:36 AM

I just got my car back from the dealer and I got the standard, "we can't replicate the problem"....

I had the phantom "honk" 3 times this weekend ... been very hot of course. Any TSB's on this yet ... don't really want to take it to the dealer to hear them say they can't replicate the problem because it is very intermitant.

Thx ... JHH

simpleGTO

08-09-2006, 01:30 PM

I had two honks last week. If you find out the cause be sure and post.

LordGriNz

08-10-2006, 04:24 AM

Coop, I don't think this is a TSB, but this is a known problem on these boards. Search, print out, and take to your dealer. I know LordGrinz had this problem, among others...

Yup, I'm not the only one...there are others, the dealer felt it was necessary
to order two new handles, paint them and then call me in 3 days after they
cured completely. The paint on the handles wasnt the greatest, but at least
its stayed on for over a year now...

ChrisMcGTO04

08-14-2006, 05:49 AM

I had the paint peeling on the door handle as well. Dealer ordered and painted a new one...and called me in to install it. No problems since...

Mick1

09-12-2006, 04:04 PM

Had 4 honks , it was a while ago. turned out the pass door lock button was sticking

dizz81

09-15-2006, 07:28 AM

Ok, I did a search for TSB's and came up with 36 for 2005.

A few I have regarding my car

The clunking noises in the drivetrain at low speeds and during shifts
The T/C coming on at low speeds, had it happen twice yesterday.
The Intermittent block out of 1st from a stop.. It is getting harder and harder for me to shift my car into 1st when stopping at lights. Usually I just shift it into 1st as I'm coming up to the light so I don't have to worry about not being able to shift it in when the light turns green.
My power seats aren't working. Well my driver side works fine but the passenger doesn't recline or anything.. Yeah I'm already taking it back for that..

My main question is, how do you approach a dealership about a TSB?
Do I just walk in there and ask them to go over the TSB and see which are taken care of or need taking care of? I know I could tell them what my car is doing and they are going to look at me stupid as they have many times before but now I'm seeing they have TSB's for issues I've brought the car to the dealership for and they just look at me stupid..

Thanks..

HazMatt

09-22-2006, 11:31 AM

Paint peeling off of my driver's side door handle edge. Confronted the dealership and they are going to repaint it next week. I also have an issue with annoying rattles from the door locks and the drivers seat, and I have the rough seat movement issue. My rig is a 2005 model, but was built in Oct of 2004.

I am going to present the TSBs to the dealership when I drop it off for the door handle issue next week.

We'll see if I get the "I didn't hear anything" response.....again.

svede1212

09-22-2006, 02:12 PM

Had 4 honks , it was a while ago. turned out the pass door lock button was sticking
wow, thanks. this was driving me crazy. had four honks on "locking". turns out the passenger's side button was sticking and not locking. off to the dealer...

camaronx

09-22-2006, 02:15 PM

My plastic clearcoat is starting to come off the front of car it is around the pontiac emblem and along one of the creases on the side/front. It is like a clear plastic sheet that was put over the paint. anybody else having this problem?

mid-knight_goat

09-25-2006, 09:09 AM

anybody have problems with there e-brakes? I have never driven with it on but if I park facing an incline and not have it in gear it rolls backward like it isn't engauged. On the other hand that sucka won't even try to roll forward w/ the e-brake on if I back onto the incline, and there is a loud squeal on acceleration in the drivers rear, they replaced the rear end because of a leaking pinion seal, but clammed they CND the sqeual that I can hear over the radio and windows rolled up.

mid-knight_goat

09-25-2006, 09:10 AM

I also heard something about engine replacements. Has anyone heard why?

RobertHammen

09-25-2006, 11:15 AM

I also heard something about engine replacements. Has anyone heard why?

LS2 oil consumption issues - has happened to some six-speed GTO and Corvette owners who drive aggressively... keep checking the oil, document everything (date/time/if oil added/receipts for oil and oil changes), just to be safe, and you'll be fine...

PlanoGTO

09-25-2006, 02:09 PM

I had the phantom "honk" 3 times this weekend ... been very hot of course. Any TSB's on this yet ... don't really want to take it to the dealer to hear them say they can't replicate the problem because it is very intermitant.

Thx ... JHH
I had a "Honk 3 times" when I locked the car with the remote. I latter noticed that I had no parking lights. The fuse looked okay, but when I tested it, it was bad. Replaced the fuse (10 amp Park) and all was well. No more honks.

Roon

11-10-2006, 08:44 AM

[QUOTE=HawaiianGoat;1305950]Interesting that our Pontiac Dealers cannot find these TSBs while we can find the lists of GTO TSBs at multiple public locations like Edmunds.com and NHTSA.gov.[QUOTE]

Dang, I just went to the NHTSA.gov site and it doesn't list the GTO for 2004, '05 or '06. Edmunds is pulling up 91 TSB's for the 2004 model. At first glance some appear to be duplicates though...

http://www.edmunds.com/maintenance/recalltsb.do?step=tsb&year=2004&make=Pontiac&model=GTO&style=2dr+Coupe+%285.7L+8cyl+4A%29&zip=76133&synpartner=edmunds

HawaiianGoat

11-11-2006, 05:23 PM

Just click on this link below and it will take you right to the TSB look-up on the NHTSA website. You have to put in year, model, etc., but on the last tab just check the box and press Submit. You do not have to "select a component". I found 19 - 2006 GTO TSB's. The bummer part about this site is it only gives you the title and summary - you have to subscribe to get the details. But the Pontiac dealers have access to these things from GM.

http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/tsb/tsbsearch.cfm

You can also file a complaint about a defect with your vehicle by clicking on the "File A Complaint" link on the upper left of the NHTSA website above.

For Edmunds, go to this link and put in the info for the car you want to look up:

http://www.edmunds.com/maintenance/vehicle.do

Again, it is only title and summary.

But, if you do a search on "TSB" here on the LS1 / LS2 GTO website you will get a full night's worth of reading material and details to print out and bring to your dealer. :cool:

Good luck and Aloha,

Hawaiian Goat

[QUOTE=HawaiianGoat;1305950]Interesting that our Pontiac Dealers cannot find these TSBs while we can find the lists of GTO TSBs at multiple public locations like Edmunds.com and NHTSA.gov.[QUOTE]

Dang, I just went to the NHTSA.gov site and it doesn't list the GTO for 2004, '05 or '06. Edmunds is pulling up 91 TSB's for the 2004 model. At first glance some appear to be duplicates though...

http://www.edmunds.com/maintenance/recalltsb.do?step=tsb&year=2004&make=Pontiac&model=GTO&style=2dr+Coupe+%285.7L+8cyl+4A%29&zip=76133&synpartner=edmunds

TXGTOU

11-13-2006, 12:32 AM

My main question is, how do you approach a dealership about a TSB?
Do I just walk in there and ask them to go over the TSB and see which are taken care of or need taking care of? I know I could tell them what my car is doing and they are going to look at me stupid as they have many times before but now I'm seeing they have TSB's for issues I've brought the car to the dealership for and they just look at me stupid..

Thanks..

Find all the symptoms for the TSB that you think you are experiencing. Give them the descriptions of the TSB if you don't think they are taking you serious. Depending on the dealership though, you may have to contact the service manager and literally give him/her the TSB number. Usually when you use phrases similiar to the TSB they can do a search based on those keywords though.

HonchoMcNabb

11-20-2006, 03:08 PM

I had a question about a DTC code, P1677. I first noticed the problem when I scanned for trouble codes with my predator. THe predator shows the code, but the description is "Unknown". I tried searching on the internet, but all I found for a description is "Driver 4, Line 7". Does anyone have an idea what this code might be?

PlanoGTO

11-21-2006, 03:47 AM

When the ignition is turned ON or the door is unlocked by remote key the BCM and the key exchange security data to verify the correct key is used.
Once the correct key has been confirmed and the ignition is turned ON, the PIM and BCM exchange data to confirm the correct BCM and PIM is being used.
Once the correct key, BCM, and PIM is confirmed, the PIM and ECM exchange data to allow the vehicle to start.
The data exchange processes conducted use various encrypted data exchanges between each of the devices.
DTC P1677 - immobilizer Function Deactivated

HonchoMcNabb

11-27-2006, 08:53 AM

Thanks for the Info Plano. So I take it that DTC P1677 is not an error code?

PlanoGTO

11-28-2006, 03:09 AM

Yeah it is, an immobilizer signal DTC sets if the theft deterrent system authentication process fails.
If the car starts, then I would guess that it was just transient. Perhaps caused by reprogramming.
If the car will not start, here are the possible causes;
• If the key is not programmed to the BCM, then the key authentication will fail
• If the BCM is not linked to the PIM, then PIM to BCM Authentication will fail
• If the PIM is not linked to the ECM then the ECM to PIM authentication will fail
• If the PIM, BCM, Key or ECM have corrupt memory, then the authentication will fail
• If there is a fault with the GMLAN or UART bus, no authentication will occur

HonchoMcNabb

11-28-2006, 04:16 AM

Well, that is certainly strange. Perhaps it has to do with the fact that I had to have the computer replaced a short time after I bought the vehicle. I guess I'll take it in and have tell them it's throwin an error code.

WicketMike

11-30-2006, 11:50 AM

Had 4 honks , it was a while ago. turned out the pass door lock button was sticking

mine is starting to stick also

longhornbsbll15

01-06-2007, 01:13 PM

hey can anyone get these complete TSB's for me? all i can get are the numbers.

Make : PONTIAC; Model : GTO;
Service Bulletin Num : 050308009
NHTSA Item Number : 10017367
Date of Bulletin : AUG 01, 2005

Make : PONTIAC; Model : GTO;
Service Bulletin Num : 3438
NHTSA Item Number : 10014874
Date of Bulletin : JAN 01, 1901

Make : PONTIAC; Model : GTO;
Service Bulletin Num : 3513
NHTSA Item Number : 10016543
Date of Bulletin : JAN 01, 1901

dredz172

01-07-2007, 07:53 AM

Suspension - Unnecessary Control Arm Bushing Replacement

Bulletin No.: 05-03-08-009

Date: July 29, 2005

INFORMATION
Subject:
Proper Diagnosis of Front Control Arm Rod Bushing with Suspected Leak or Clunk Noise

Models:
2004-2006 Pontiac GTO

It has been found that front control arm bushings (1) are being replaced unnecessarily for reports of leaking and/or causing a clunk noise from the front suspension.

Assessment of returned parts shows that these bushings were not leaking. Fluid around the bushing has been identified as assembly/shipping fluid which is applied during manufacture.

While it may appear that the bushing is leaking and believed to be the source of the clunk noise, it has been confirmed that even if the bushing had a genuine leak and lost all its fluid, it would not cause a clunk or knock-type noise.

To avoid misdiagnosis of the bushing, follow these steps:
1. Wipe the excess fluid off the bushing.

If the fluid appears to be trapped where the control arm passes through the center of the bushing, remove the bushing from the vehicle and clean the fluid from the center bore of the bushing.
2. Verify if the fluid returns after cleaning. The vehicle will have to be driven in order to put a load on the bushing. If no more fluid appears, the bushing is OK. If the bushing has been confirmed to be leaking, replace the bushing following the procedures in SI.

dredz172

01-07-2007, 07:55 AM

cant find the other two, the TSB number should be 9 digits and a letter

longhornbsbll15

01-07-2007, 08:31 AM

well thanks for the help for the one! lol

HWFSTRU

03-12-2007, 02:53 AM

There are supposed to be TSB's out for the rear main seal and oil pan seal on the 2005 model, does anyone know the poop on that one? My GOAT started leaking from that area yesterday and I don't know if its the oil pan seal or the rear main seal. Either way I would like to take any TSB information available with me to the dealership.

TR GTO

03-21-2007, 04:59 PM

Anyone had this problem? The SES light isn't on, but it hangs onto gears kind of long sometimes and if I go full throttle in first, when it grabs second it lets out a quick squeal. I need to get to the dealer to have them look at it, but the closest one doesn't have the service center open on weekends.

· DTC P0757 Set, SES Lamp Illuminated, Poor Performance of Transmission, Transmission Slipping (Clean Transmission Valve Body and Case Oil Passages of Debris) #01-07-30-038B - (Jan 26, 2004)
DTC P0757 Set, SES Lamp Illuminated, Poor Performance of Transmission, Transmission Slipping (Clean Transmission Valve Body and Case Oil Passages of Debris)

with 4L60-E/4L65-E Automatic Transmission (RPOs M30/M32)

Condition
Some customers may comment on any of the following conditions:

The SES lamp is illuminated.
No 3rd and 4th gear.
The transmission does not shift correctly.
The transmission feels like it shifts to Neutral or a loss of drive occurs.
The vehicle free wheels above 48 km/h (30 mph). High RPM needed to overcome the free wheeling.

Cause
The most likely cause is chips or debris plugging the bleed orifice of the 2-3 shift solenoid. This will cause the transmission to stay in 2nd gear when 3rd gear is commanded and return to 1st gear when 4th gear is commanded.

DTC P0757 may also be set if the 2-3 shift valve or 2-3 shuttle valve were stuck, restricted and/or hung-up in its bore.

Correction
Inspect / Clean the 2-3 shift valve, the 2-3 shuttle valve and the valve bore of debris / metal chips.
Inspect / Clean the 2-3 shift solenoid opening of debris / metal chips. While inspecting the 2-3 shift solenoid, look for a screen over the solenoid opening. If the solenoid DOES NOT have a screen, replace the solenoid with P/N 10478131 that does have a screen over the solenoid opening.
Refer to the appropriate Service Manual for additional diagnostic information and service procedures.

Parts Information
Part Number
Description
Qty

10478131
Valve, 2-3 Shift Solenoid
1

Parts are currently available from GMSPO.

· Info - Remote Keyless Entry (RKE) Normal Operating Characteristics #04-08-52-006 - (Jun 22, 2004)
Remote Keyless Entry (RKE) Normal Operating Characteristics

2004 Pontiac GTO

This bulletin is being published to advise dealers of two normal operational characteristics of the RKE system that may lead customers to believe the system is faulty.

In the first instance, if a driver exits the vehicle and locks it with the remote, and the passenger door is open, the vehicle will not lock. The horn will chirp three times to indicate that the doors are not properly locked and this warning signal will occur again on each successive press of the lock button on the key fob. To reset the system, press and hold the door unlock button for five seconds. Both doors can now be locked. In order to bypass this condition, the personalization settings must be changed. Refer to Vehicle Personalization in the Owner's Manual.

The second issue is when the customer presses the lock and/or unlock button multiple times. This will cause the key fob to become out of sequence with the RKE receiver. When this occurs, the key fob will not operate until it is re-sequenced.

In order to correct a key fob that is out-of-sequence, follow these steps:

While seated in the vehicle, press and hold the unlock button on the key fob.
While still pressing the unlock key on the fob, insert the ignition key into the ignition switch and turn the key to the ON position.
Once the Driver Information Center (DIC) cycles, release the unlock button.
Turn the key to the OFF position and remove the key.
The key fob should now operate both doors.

TTS

04-04-2007, 08:18 PM

I used to have Alldata, some of their TSB's are out of left field. 04-07-30-028 reverse servo leak would be one of those. There is no reverse servo internally or externally on a 4L60/5 E. That's a transaxle bulletin.

BTW my 05 has the steering wheel paint, and door handle paint problems. And my steering wheel started rubbing the column cover.

Half of the time, about 2 minutes into a drive, moving or not I get a knock knock knock in the left quarter area. Thinking it's fuel tank related?

RobertHammen

04-05-2007, 09:00 AM

3-5 knocks in the right? rear (IIRC) is the fuel evap system...

trex2004

04-13-2007, 10:48 AM

I tried the fuse removal, this did not work.
I tried programming back to stock using Diablosport Tuner, this did not work.
I left battery cables unhooked for a day, this did not work.
I took 2004 GTO to dealer, this worked.

The dealer had to reprogram my gauge cluster with the latest update, cost $60.00 plus 1.80 shop charge and tax. It has been about 6 days and no issues. As a side note I left the custom tune on my GTO (SLP Tune) and had no issues (car is not under warranty so I wanted to see if anything came up about this).

miller5103

05-30-2007, 05:11 PM

wow.. 94 TSBs listed on edmunds... should I be regreting I bought this car? That sounds HORRIBLE

speeddemon

05-30-2007, 05:22 PM

wow.. 94 TSBs listed on edmunds... should I be regreting I bought this car? That sounds HORRIBLE
its cause you got an 04 :fawkdance

:drink:

miller5103

05-31-2007, 05:52 AM

its cause you got an 04 :fawkdance

:drink:

You think because my 2004 was bought from the dealer in september of 2005 that I had a late model 2004 and may avoid some of the common problems of other 2004 GTOs?

RobertHammen

05-31-2007, 11:53 AM

You think because my 2004 was bought from the dealer in september of 2005 that I had a late model 2004 and may avoid some of the common problems of other 2004 GTOs?

Depends on your VIN. My 301xxx VIN 2nd GTO is a lot more solid than my 281xxx VIN 1st GTO (which GM bought back)...

speeddemon

05-31-2007, 01:33 PM

You think because my 2004 was bought from the dealer in september of 2005 that I had a late model 2004 and may avoid some of the common problems of other 2004 GTOs?
its wierd with this car how so many like mine have ZERO problems and then how some peoples have so many issues its not even funny....I think the ones with all the issues were built on Holden Factory Drinking Day :drink:

GT_Eater

07-07-2007, 10:51 PM

Engine Controls - Aftermarket Accessory Usage

Bulletin No.: 04-06-04-054A

Date: January 11, 2007

INFORMATION

Subject:
Non-GM Parts and Accessories (Aftermarket)

Models:
2007 and Prior Passenger Cars and Trucks (Including Saturn)
2007 and Prior HUMMER H2, H3
2005-2007 Saab 9-7X

Supercede:

This bulletin is being updated to add models and model years. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 04-06-04-054 (Section 06 - Engine).

The recent rise and expansion of companies selling non-GM parts and accessories has made it necessary to issue this reminder to dealers regarding GM's policy on the use and installation of these components.

When a dealer is performing a repair under the New Vehicle Limited Warranty, they are required to use only genuine GM or GM-approved parts and accessories. This applies to all warranty repairs, special policy repairs or any repairs paid for by GM. Parts and accessories advertised as being "the same" as parts manufactured by GM, but not sold through GM, do not qualify for use in warranty repairs, special policy repairs or any repairs paid for by GM.

During a warranty repair, if a GM original equipment part is not available through GMSPO, ACDelco(R) distributors, other GM dealers or approved sources, the dealer is to obtain comparable, non-GM parts and clearly indicate, in detail, on the repair order the circumstances surrounding why non-GM parts were used. The dealer must give customers written notice, prior to the sale or service, that such parts or accessories are not marketed or warranted by General Motors.

It should also be noted that dealers modifying new vehicles and installing equipment, parts and accessories obtained from sources not authorized by GM are responsible for complying with the National Traffic and Motor Vehicle Safety Act. Certain non-approved parts or assemblies, installed by the dealer or its agent not authorized by GM, may result in a change to the vehicle's design characteristics and may affect the vehicle's ability to conform to federal law. Dealers must fully understand that non-GM approved parts may not have been validated, tested or certified for use. This puts the dealer at risk for potential liability in the event of a part or vehicle failure. If a GM part failure occurs as the result of the installation or use on a non-GM approved part, the warranty will not be honored.

A good example of non-authorized modification of vehicles is the result of an ever increasing supply of after market devices available to the customer, which claim to increase the horsepower and torque of the Duramax(TM) Diesel Engines. These include the addition of, but are not limited to one or more of the following modifications:

Propane injection

Nitrous oxide injection

Additional modules (black boxes) that connect to the vehicle wiring systems

Revised engine calibrations downloaded for the engine control module
Calibration modules which connect to the vehicle diagnostic connector Modification to the engine turbocharger waste gate

Although the installation of these devices, or modification of vehicle components, can increase engine horsepower and torque, they may also negatively affect the engine emissions, reliability and/or durability. In addition, other powertrain components, such as transmissions, universal joints, drive shafts, and front/rear axle components, can be stressed beyond design safety limits by the installation of these devices.

General Motors does not support or endorse the use of devices or modifications that, when installed, increase the engine horsepower and torque.

These same policies apply as they relate to the use of non-GM accessories. Damage or failure from the use or installation of a non-GM accessory will not be covered under warranty. Failure resulting from the alteration or modification of the vehicle, including the cutting, welding or disconnecting of the vehicle's original equipment parts and components will void the warranty.

Additionally, dealers will NOT be reimbursed or compensated by GM in the event of any legal inquiry at either the local, state or federal level that results from the alteration or modification of a vehicle using non-GM approved parts or accessories.

Dealers should be especially cautious of accessory companies that claim the installation of their product will not void the factory warranty. Many times these companies have even given direction on how to quickly disassemble the accessory in an attempt to preclude the manufacturer from finding out that is has been installed.

Any suspect repairs should be reviewed by the Area Service Manager (District Service Manager in Canada) for appropriate repair direction. If it is decided that a goodwill repair is to be made on the vehicle, even with the installation of such non-GM approved components, the customer is to be made aware of General Motors position on this issue and is to sign the appropriate goodwill documentation required by General Motors.

It is imperative for dealers to understand that by installing such devices, they are jeopardizing not only the warranty coverage, but also the performance and reliability of the customer's vehicle.

GT_Eater

07-07-2007, 11:02 PM

Fuel System - TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline

Bulletin No.: 04-06-04-047G

Date: November 28, 2006

INFORMATION

Subject:
TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline (Deposits, Fuel Economy, No Start, Power, Performance, Stall Concerns) - U.S. Only

Models:
2007 and Prior GM Passenger Cars and Trucks (including Saturn) (U.S. Only)
2003-2007 HUMMER H2 (U.S. Only)
2006-2007 HUMMER H3 (U.S. Only)
2005-2007 Saab 9-7X (U.S. Only)

Supercede:

This bulletin is being revised to add additional sources to the Top Tier Fuel Retailers list. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 04-06-04-047F (Section 06 - Engine/Propulsion System). In Canada, refer to Corporate Bulletin Number 05-06-04-022C

A new class of fuel called TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline is appearing at retail stations of some fuel marketers. This gasoline meets detergency standards developed by four automotive companies. All vehicles will benefit from using TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline over gasoline containing the "Lowest Additive Concentration" set by the EPA. Those vehicles that have experienced deposit related concerns may especially benefit from the use of TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline.

Intake valve: 10,000 miles with TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline

Intake valve: 10,000 miles with Legal Minimum additive Gasoline

Brands That Currently Meet TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline Standards

As of November 15, 2006, all grades of the gasoline brands shown meet the TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline Standards.

What is TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline?

TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline is a new class of gasoline with enhanced detergency. It meets new, voluntary deposit control standards developed by four automotive companies that exceed the detergent requirements imposed by the EPA.

Where Can TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline Be Purchased?

The TOP TIER program began on May 3, 2004. Some fuel marketers have already joined and have introduced TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline. This is a voluntary program and not all fuel marketers will offer this product. Once fuel marketers make public announcements, they will appear on a list of brands that meet the TOP TIER standards.

Where Can I find the Latest Information on TOP TIER Fuel and Retailers?

On the web, please visit www.toptiergas.com for additional information and updated retailer lists.

Who developed TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline standards?

TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline standards were developed by four automotive companies: BMW, General Motors, Honda and Toyota.

Why was TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline developed?

TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline was developed to increase the level of detergent additive in gasoline. The EPA requires that all gasoline sold in the U.S. contain a detergent additive. However, the requirement is minimal and in many cases, is not sufficient to keep engines clean. In order to meet TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline standards, a higher level of detergent is needed than what is required by the EPA. Also, TOP TIER was developed to give fuel marketers the opportunity to differentiate their product.

Why did the four automotive companies join together to develop TOP TIER?

All four corporations recognized the benefits to both the vehicle and the consumer. Also, joining together emphasized that low detergency is an issue of concern to several automotive companies.

What are the benefits of TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline?

TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline will help keep engines cleaner than gasoline containing the "Lowest Additive Concentration" set by the EPA. Clean engines help provide optimal fuel economy and performance and reduced emissions. Also, use of TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline will help reduce deposit related concerns.

jed.only

08-07-2007, 12:27 PM

M6 TSBs? any for hard shifting or clutch not disengaging. i cant find any.

HawaiianGoat

08-08-2007, 02:15 PM

M6 TSBs? any for hard shifting or clutch not disengaging. i cant find any.

I had this problem. Clutch stopped working / would not disengage. Happened slowly over about a day. Couldn't shift gears at all unless shutting the engine off (but then you would have to start the car in gear). Dealer fixed it under warranty. They replaced clutch, throwout bearing, slave & master cylinders, and hydralic tubing. It's been fine ever since (1 year now).

The clutch plate to flywhel bolts were not installed tight enough at the factory.

Here is the TSB:

04-07-31-003 JUN 04 M/T - Loss of Clutch/Low Pedal Height/Hard to Shift.

Search on the TSB number or description - the full text is here somewhere.

Aloha, HawaiianGoat

facemob50cal

08-13-2007, 07:44 PM

anyone have a problem with the tire coming in contact with the fender my right side fender is messed up and i'm trying get some info it happend either before i got the car or when i first got it i have 18 inch rims if it matters thanks for any help

RobertHammen

08-13-2007, 08:06 PM

Stock rims and tires? Ever had an alignment (4 wheel or cradle)? Tire hitting the fender isn't a common problem (unless it's in the rear and your stock springs are sagging)...

facemob50cal

08-14-2007, 06:38 AM

Stock rims and tires? Ever had an alignment (4 wheel or cradle)? Tire hitting the fender isn't a common problem (unless it's in the rear and your stock springs are sagging)...

yes i have stock rims and stock tires the car had like 20 miles on it and i had a 4 wheel alignment after not before it i forgot to mention lit looks like it came in contact with the wheel turned plus there is a dent above the place where the tire contacted about 4 inches above

RobertHammen

08-14-2007, 05:22 PM

facemob50cal

08-14-2007, 06:32 PM

I might suggest having your dealer do a rear cradle alingment. There's got to be something terribly wrong with your car's suspension to have this happen. Front or back? I see you have a 2006... did your VIN fall into the range where Monroe Australia supplied defective struts to Holden? All cars built from mid-January through early May are potentially affected by this problem... I might see this issue happening in the front if your struts are totally blown...

yeah my car was built in may of 06 i told the dealer about the issue with the struts and they said there was no problem so i showed them the notice and then they said oh we will have it fixed when you pick it up

nexstar7

10-24-2007, 02:38 PM

maybe i missed it. is there a tsb for when driving on a bumpy road everytime your tires hit the bumps you hear like a bag of loose coines gingleing.

LS1Blackbird99

10-31-2007, 01:38 PM

Is there a TSB for the paint peeling on the door handles?

GTOGirl04

11-05-2007, 03:14 PM

maybe im blind and didnt see it threw out the thread, but is there anything about the tires rubbing on the struts, b/c my front passenger tire did it BAD!!! and im about to put new tires on it, but if its something the dealer will fix for free than I want it done first. thanks!

jim2527

11-06-2007, 06:35 AM

Can I get detail for this TSB?

Make : PONTIAC Model : GTO Year : 2006
Manufacturer : GENERAL MOTORS CORP.
Service Bulletin Num : 040308014 Date of Bulletin: JUN 01, 2006
NHTSA Item Number: 10011196
Component: SUSPENSION

Thanks,

Jim

toohot4thosenot

12-23-2007, 07:49 AM

Is there anything for the driveshaft making contact with the exhaust? The passenger side pipe right before the flat spot has a nasty flat spot in it.

MyMidLifeCrisis

01-05-2008, 07:01 PM

maybe i missed it. is there a tsb for when driving on a bumpy road everytime your tires hit the bumps you hear like a bag of loose coines gingleing.

Nexstar, I think that is my sound also! sort of a dinging, I think mine is from the front passenger dash area, near the windshield maybe, it is so hard to exactly pinpoint it. I thought maybe even from the console storage box........ did you figure yours out?

MyMidLifeCrisis

01-10-2008, 02:16 PM

I may have figured it out: I buckled all my seatbelts in the car, and NO dinging! (so far) Isn't there some pendulum thing in those seatbelt harnesses that could make that noise?

Rev. Po-Jay

01-12-2008, 08:35 AM

06's do have onstar

No. No they don't. If you have seen one, they installed it (for some stupid reason or another) aftermarket. If someone says they have it, they are lying to you unless you see it. It was not an option on any GTO of any year.

Fox Mulder

01-12-2008, 08:50 AM

No. No they don't. If you have seen one, they installed it (for some stupid reason or another) aftermarket. If someone says they have it, they are lying to you unless you see it. It was not an option on any GTO of any year.

Very true but he made that post almost two years ago, I don't think there is still anyone who believes that any GTOs had Onstar.
Of course if anyone else makes that claim, just ask them to post a pic of the Onstar antenna on the outside of the vehicle. ;)

warhero

01-13-2008, 09:29 AM

Is there anything for the driveshaft making contact with the exhaust? The passenger side pipe right before the flat spot has a nasty flat spot in it.

The flat spot is normal on the stock exhaust. Maybe they do it for easier install?

adamsgto2004

03-04-2008, 04:32 PM

RobertHammen

03-06-2008, 03:54 AM

I had the speed on my car go all the way to 200 then just kind of bounce all over the place. I turned the car off and restarted it and no problems yet..... its only been a day. By the way since i bought the car i have never had a shift light can anyone offer any help on this??

Your car still under warranty? The gauges TSB is free if it is, otherwise it'll cost you some time at the dealer.

re: the shift light, it's not enabled from the factory... GTPprix on here (Also a sponsor, http://www.gtoshiftlight.com) has figured out how to do so - I'm unaware of anyone who can do this. He does periodically make visits to certain parts of the US and can enable your shiftlight with a few minutes access to your ODBII port - otherwise you need to send your cluster in to him...

adamsgto2004

03-06-2008, 04:04 AM

Your car still under warranty? The gauges TSB is free if it is, otherwise it'll cost you some time at the dealer.

re: the shift light, it's not enabled from the factory... GTPprix on here (Also a sponsor, http://www.gtoshiftlight.com) has figured out how to do so - I'm unaware of anyone who can do this. He does periodically make visits to certain parts of the US and can enable your shiftlight with a few minutes access to your ODBII port - otherwise you need to send your cluster in to him...

No the car is well out of it warranty..... I turned the car off and restarted it. It seemed to fix the problem for the moment at least. My car was made in June of 04 so i dont know if it would be an entire cluster or just reprogrammed. As far as the shift light it wouldnt be something i had to have just someting i would like.......

ionut20

03-12-2008, 11:59 AM

that sucks man..

harlesjohn

04-04-2008, 09:01 AM

my fuel gauge always goes to FULL and i reset both fuses and it didn't work.. :dunno:

littlemissGTO

04-21-2008, 01:56 PM

Anyone know if there's a TSB for the locked ignition switch?

razzle

04-29-2008, 05:37 PM

Anyone know if there's a TSB for the locked ignition switch?

My dad had the ignition switch go out on is Cosmo Purple 04 and it took the dealership in Pheonix over a month to get it replaced. You and him are the only 2 I know of this happening too.

Good luck

adamsgto2004

04-29-2008, 07:30 PM

i have had a locked ignition switch, it has happened to a few gtos..... there is a cheap solution on how to fix it on here just search for "locked ignition switch".... but im pretty sure there is no tsb...

GoatU

05-03-2008, 06:15 PM

The following were extracted from edmunds.com 1. Component Description: ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING: ENGINE
Bulletin Number: 060137008
Bulletin Date: DEC 2006
Vehicle: 2006 Pontiac GTO
Summary: SERVICE REPLACEMENT OF HEATER HOSES DUE TO CONTACT/RUBBING WITH REAR OF RH CYLINDER HEAD.
(NHTSA ITEM NUMBER - 10021105)

2. Component Description: POWER TRAIN: AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
Bulletin Number: 030730007
Bulletin Date: DEC 2006
Vehicle: 2006 Pontiac GTO
Summary: DELAYED ENGAGEMENT WHEN SHIFTING INTO THESE POSITIONS. PARK INTO REVERSE, NUETRAL INTO DRIVE, NEUTRAL INTO REVERSE, AND PARK INTO DRIVE.
(NHTSA ITEM NUMBER - 10021103)

3. Component Description: POWER TRAIN: AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
Bulletin Number: 3931
Bulletin Date: SEP 2006
Vehicle: 2006 Pontiac GTO
Summary: NO MOVEMENT WHEN THE SHIFT LEVER IS MOVED TO D4 OR D3. NORMAL OPERATION WHEN MOVED TO D2 D1 OR REVERSE.
(NHTSA ITEM NUMBER - 10021018)

4. Component Description: EXTERIOR LIGHTING: HAZARD FLASHING WARNING LIGHTS
Bulletin Number: 060842007
Bulletin Date: SEP 2006
Vehicle: 2006 Pontiac GTO
Summary: HAZARD FLASHERS STAY ON INTERMITTENTLY/ CANNOT BE TURNED OFF. (REPLACE BODY CONTROL MODULE (BCM)).
(NHTSA ITEM NUMBER - 10020736)

5. Component Description: POWER TRAIN: MANUAL TRANSMISSION
Bulletin Number: 3136
Bulletin Date: SEP 2006
Vehicle: 2006 Pontiac GTO
Summary: SLIP CONDITION IN 2ND, 3RD, OR 4TH. DAMAGED 2-4 OR 3-4 CLUTCH.
(NHTSA ITEM NUMBER - 10021019)

6. Component Description: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM
Bulletin Number: 3089
Bulletin Date: SEP 2006
Vehicle: 2006 Pontiac GTO
Summary: SERVICE ENGINE SOON LIGHT AND REDUCED ENGINE POWER WITH A DIAGNOSTIC TROUBLE CODE P1516. DIAGNOSTIC TROUBLE CODES P0120, P0220, P1514, P1515, P1518 AND P2135 MAY ALSO BE PRESENT.
(NHTSA ITEM NUMBER - 10009520)

7. Component Description: SUSPENSION
Bulletin Number: 040308014
Bulletin Date: JUN 2006
Vehicle: 2006 Pontiac GTO
Summary: KNOCK NOISE FROM FRONT SUSPENSION WHEN DRIVING AT LOW SPEEDS OVER BUMPS/UNEVEN ROAD SURFACES.
(NHTSA ITEM NUMBER - 10011196)

8. Component Description: ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING
Bulletin Number: 050601034
Bulletin Date: NOV 2005
Vehicle: 2006 Pontiac GTO
Summary: ENGINE OIL LEAK AT REAR COVER ASSEMBLY AREA.
(NHTSA ITEM NUMBER - 10018733)

9. Component Description: ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING
Bulletin Number: 709
Bulletin Date: SEP 2005
Vehicle: 2006 Pontiac GTO
Summary: OIL LIFE SYSTEM RESET PROCEDURES - CARS. GM TECH LINK.
(NHTSA ITEM NUMBER - 10018126)

10. Component Description: POWER TRAIN: AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
Bulletin Number: 030730007A
Bulletin Date: AUG 2005
Vehicle: 2006 Pontiac GTO
Summary: ENGAGEMENT TIME OF ELECTRONICALLY CONTROLLED TRANSMISSIONS IN GENERAL MOTORS VEHICLES.
(NHTSA ITEM NUMBER - 10005577)

11. Component Description: SUSPENSION
Bulletin Number: 050308009
Bulletin Date: AUG 2005
Vehicle: 2006 Pontiac GTO
Summary: PROPER DIAGNOSIS OF FRONT CONTROL ARM ROD BUSHING WITH SUSPECTED LEAK OR CLUNK NOISE.
(NHTSA ITEM NUMBER - 10017367)

12. Component Description: DIGITAL INSTRUMENT PANEL
Bulletin Number: 3883
Bulletin Date: JAN 200X
Vehicle: 2006 Pontiac GTO
Summary: INTERMITTENT AIRBAG LAMP ON AND NO DTCS.
(NHTSA ITEM NUMBER - 10020063)

13. Component Description: SUSPENSION: FRONT: MACPHERSON STRUT
Bulletin Number: 4141
Bulletin Date: JAN 200X
Vehicle: 2006 Pontiac GTO
Summary: FRONT STRUT OR STRUTS LEAKING OIL.
(NHTSA ITEM NUMBER - 10020224)

14. Component Description: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM
Bulletin Number: 3856
Bulletin Date: JAN 200X
Vehicle: 2006 Pontiac GTO
Summary: CANNOT LINK ENGINE CONTROL MODULE (ECM) TO THE POWERTRAIN INTERFACE MODULE (PIM).
(NHTSA ITEM NUMBER - 10019192)

15. Component Description: STEERING: HYDRAULIC POWER ASSIST SYSTEM
Bulletin Number: 3824
Bulletin Date: JAN 200X
Vehicle: 2006 Pontiac GTO
Summary: POWER STEERING SHUDDER DURING PARKING LOG MANEUVERS.
NHTSA ITEM NUMBER - 10018921)

16. Component Description: SERVICE BRAKES, AIR: ANTILOCK: WHEEL SPEED SENSOR
Bulletin Number: 3810
Bulletin Date: JAN 200X
Vehicle: 2006 Pontiac GTO
Summary: TRACTION CONTROL LIGHT COMING ON AT LOW SPEEDS - SERVICE VME.
(NHTSA ITEM NUMBER - 10018912)

17. Component Description: STEERING: WHEEL AND HANDLE BAR
Bulletin Number: 4133
Bulletin Date: JAN 200X
Vehicle: 2006 Pontiac GTO
Summary: INFORMATION: STEERING WHEEL CONTROLS BACKLIGHTING.
(NHTSA ITEM NUMBER – 10020220)

18. Component Description: SEATS: FRONT ASSEMBLY: POWER ADJUST
Bulletin Number: 3886
Bulletin Date: JAN 200X
Vehicle: 2006 Pontiac GTO
Summary: ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON EZ SEAT ENTRY SCHEMATIC.
(NHTSA ITEM NUMBER - 10019446)

19. Component Description: POWER TRAIN
Bulletin Number: 3609A
Bulletin Date: JAN 200X
Vehicle: 2006 Pontiac GTO
Summary: HARSH 1-2 SHIFT, MALFUNCTION INDICATOR LAMP ILLUMINATED, DIAGNOSTIC TROUBLE CODE P0894 STORED IN PCM.
(NHTSA ITEM NUMBER - 10018537)

20. Component Description: POWER TRAIN
Bulletin Number: 3568
Bulletin Date: JAN 200X
Vehicle: 2006 Pontiac GTO
Summary: SLIP CONDITION IN 1ST, 2ND 3RD OR 4TH/DAMAGED FORWARD CLUCTH, 2-4BAND 3-4 CLUTCH. 2006 ALL CADILLAC, CHEVROLET, GMC, BUICK, AND CHEVROLET FULL AND MID-SIZED TRUCKS AND UTILITIES.
(NHTSA ITEM NUMBER - 10017417)

21. Component Description: ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING: EXHAUST SYSTEM: EMISSION CONTROL: GAS RECIRCULATION VALVE (EGR VALVE)
Bulletin Number: 3332B
Bulletin Date: JAN 200X
Vehicle: 2006 Pontiac GTO
Summary: DIAGNOSTIC TROUBLE CODE P0404 EGR CONCERN.
(NHTSA ITEM NUMBER - 10017235)

22. Component Description: POWER TRAIN: AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
Bulletin Number: 3309
Bulletin Date: JAN 200X
Vehicle: 2006 Pontiac GTO
Summary: INVESTIGATION OF EXTENSION SEAL LEAKS ON 4L60E AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION.
(NHTSA ITEM NUMBER - 10013548)

23. Component Description: POWER TRAIN: AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
Bulletin Number: 3136
Bulletin Date: JAN 200X
Vehicle: 2006 Pontiac GTO (ALSO TO INCLUDE THE PONTIAC GTO 2005)
Summary: THE 4L60E/4L65E AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION SLIP CONDITION IN 2ND, 3RD, OR 4TH GEAR.
(NHTSA ITEM NUMBER - 10010080)

24. Component Description: POWER TRAIN: AXLE ASSEMBLY
Bulletin Number: 3387
Bulletin Date: JAN 200X
Vehicle: 2006 Pontiac GTO
Summary: DANA REAR AXLE ENGINEERING EXCHANGE PROGRAM.
(NHTSA ITEM NUMBER – 10016710 )

25. Component Description: STEERING: ELECTRIC POWER ASSIST SYSTEM
Bulletin Number: 3940
Bulletin Date: JAN 200X
Vehicle: 2006 Pontiac GTO
Summary: POWER STEERING LEAK AT THE POWER STEERING COOLER PIPE.
(NHTSA ITEM NUMBER - 10019438)Cheers! :wall: