I did it!! 19x9 Front & 19x10 Rear

[SRGTO]

!! UPDATED SEE POST #60 !!

Well... I took the plunge and tried the 19x9 and 19x10 Staggered ROH Drift R's and I am not regretting it.

1.) No rolling or Trimming
2.) No Rubbing with Stock Springs (I do have Hotchkis Sways)
3.) Gives a whole new look to the car.
4.) Fronts are 19x9 43ET Toyo Proxes T1R 265/30-19
5.) Rears are 19x10 50ET Toyo Proxes T1R 275/30-19

I drove on the twisties today to test and not a single rub.... SWEEETT!!!!!!

Here are some pics (Sorry I suck at taking pics)

http://www.rmgto.com/gallery/albums/LS2FAST/PICT00 05_002.sized.jpg

http://www.rmgto.com/gallery/albums/LS2FAST/PICT00 04_003.sized.jpg

http://www.rmgto.com/gallery/albums/LS2FAST/PICT00 03_003.sized.jpg

http://www.rmgto.com/gallery/albums/LS2FAST/PICT00 08.sized.jpg

[JankesGTO]

:boink: hot sex!

[GOATCRUISER]

Looks sick!!!! So, you got rid of the lowering springs? That would be an insane combo. Love the way it came out though man. Gives your car an entirely new look.

[k5james]

Now the important question. Where did you get them from? :yumyum:

[SRGTO]

Now the important questions. Where did you get them from? :yumyum:

I am sure most on this board know who I get them from... But they are not a sponsor so I cannot say :oldfogey: (unless you pm me)

[SRGTO]

So, you got rid of the lowering springs?

The springs are on my 2005... which I sold. This is my 2006.

[k5james]

Done :wall:

[Havoc]

Offsets, brand of tire? Also, can you stand in front of the car and take a picture looking down the side? ... make sure the front wheels are perfectly straight.

Edit: sort of like this...
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g285/mrtosh/100_ 0917.jpg

[u-got-gto]

Dude... they look sick... Nice choice.... Aggressive stance.... I like!

[angermgmt20]

:boink::hail: Hell yeah!

[slammin86]

Very sweet.

[BUCKNERBUCK2]

Send me a PM with where you got them and how much please, thanks!

[SRGTO]

OK, here you go...

http://www.rmgto.com/gallery/albums/LS2FAST/PICT00 14.sized.jpg

[NRG]

Looks sick dude! Congratz! And you did a great job on the pictures, not sure why you say you suck at them. I just bought a set of 19's myself... just waiting for them in the mail. :yumyum:

[HORTENSE]

pardon my ignorance... if you decided to grind down your fenders, could you fit a 305, or maybe a 315 back there? :eek2: that would be INSANE

someday i wanna fit 305's in the rear without having to do major surgery. and i wanna use big bores too :burnout:

[SRGTO]

Looks sick dude! Congratz! And you did a great job on the pictures, not sure why you say you suck at them.
Ever seen PhotoBob and Josh99TA's work... Nuff said.

I just bought a set of 19's myself... just waiting for them in the mail. :yumyum:
Great! They really set off the car. I put mine on today and already a Cobra and a GT reved their engines at me. That hasn't happened in this car before.

[scratchy30]

Wow, that is an awesome setup, that looks amazing!

[SRGTO]

pardon my ignorance... if you decided to grind down your fenders, could you fit a 305, or maybe a 315 back there? :eek2: that would be INSANE

someday i wanna fit 305's in the rear without having to do major surgery. and i wanna use big bores too :burnout:

I think 285's would fit now... but it will be awhile until I try that one. Also, the pic in your sig looks sick!

[ddawson]

It looks really good.

I'm not a fan of going to a smaller diameter tire, but it sure looks good on yours.

I've got 285's on mine but I needed to beat on the inner well and shave the lip off so they would fit.

[bookemdano]

Now that`s some MEAT!
Why couldn't GM do that from the begining.....

[LS2-GTO]

Looks awesome. Course I have a soft spot for QSM GTO's. :D

The Toyo T1R's do run about .5" narrower tread width than other tires which is why no cutting is needed.

I had to cut most of my fender lips to fit 275/35/18 Kumho MX's which have 11" of tread width vs the Toyo's 10.6 (same for 18" and 19").

Toyo T1R Tire Specs
(http://www.toyoeditor.com/proxest1r_specs.html)
Kumho MX Tire Specs (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Spec.jsp?make=Kumho&model=Ecsta+MX&tirePageLocQty=)

Great choice for those not wanting to cut.

[tripower]

Very nice! So basically you mounted this combo on a stock GTO, correct? (No massaging of the inner fenders, no rolling or cutting the lips, etc.)

Please PM me with your wheel source as well. Thanks.

[chirogto]

What is the point of having a 10" rim with a 9" tire?

[SRGTO]

Very nice! So basically you mounted this combo on a stock GTO, correct? (No massaging of the inner fenders, no rolling or cutting the lips, etc.)

Please PM me with your wheel source as well. Thanks.

Everything is stock NO cutting, NO rolling and NO massaging of inner fenders.

[8ball]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the issue with rubbing was on hard launches. These cars love to squat on hard take offs. Have you tried it with a hard launch?

[tripower]

Everything is stock NO cutting, NO rolling and NO massaging of inner fenders.


I assume stock springs and struts as well. No strut rub?

Awesome job!!!!! :thumbs:

[SRGTO]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the issue with rubbing was on hard launches. These cars love to squat on hard take offs. Have you tried it with a hard launch?

Yes I have tried a few hard launchs trying to get it to rub with no luck. however, only I was in the car with No passengers. I did notice the tires do stick alot better and wheel hop is noticable. The pedder rear spring will help fix that.

I also hustled through the twisties this afternoon too, again with no rub. I am very happy with this set-up

Note: If I were to take this to the dragstrip, I would swap the rear tires... these are for street.

[NeveGTO]

Holy crap dude, get a new Cell phone, I had one of those at least three years ago!

[SRGTO]

Holy crap dude, get a new Cell phone, I had one of those at least three years ago!


LOL I have a Blackberry... I just used my old phone for a better comparo.

[Octomonkey]

Get a real comparo. Compare the wheel lip with the size of your key! I betcha the key wins. ;)

[kenny0529]

have you tried any hard launches?

[Smeech]

dammit thanks a lot.

I just bought a daily driver, SLP LTs and now I have to buy these wheels..

[Havoc]

pardon my ignorance... if you decided to grind down your fenders, could you fit a 305, or maybe a 315 back there? :eek2: that would be INSANE

someday i wanna fit 305's in the rear without having to do major surgery. and i wanna use big bores too :burnout:

The answer to your question can be found in the examples set by CCW owners; note that none of them have anything close to those sizes you want. The majority it seems are running smaller sized 275 Toyo's, Nitto's, etc., and are putting no more tire to the pavement than guys with 9.5's and normal sized BFG's, Michelin's, Goodyear's.

10" rims on this car pretty much uses up all the available free space so there's precious little side-to-side room to play with, in fact I would bet the offset on these 10" ROH's are within a few mm of CCW 10's.

Unfortunately major surgery is a must if one plans to run 10" or wider rims with meaningfully large tires which actually FIT the car! :(

[HOT04GTO]

Awesome set-up, simply awesome! I wanna do the exact same in chrome! The Silver looks perfect on your ride!

[BiggVigg06]

Wow that looks great....can you pm me with where you got the wheels as well. Thanks!

[Havoc]

4.) Fronts are 19x9 43ET Toyo Proxes T1R 265/30-19
5.) Rears are 19x10 50ET Toyo Proxes T1R 275/30-19



Wow... are those figures straight from the rims? I'm surprised Roh would specifically manufacture a wheel for the GTO which places it 7-8mm closer to the strut than factory wheels.

Could be the angle of the photos but even the rear offsets look better than an ET50.

[pwr_shift]

Looks plain AWESOME!

But . . .

Did you feel a big deterioration in the ride?

And even more importantly, did you feel a difference in steering, braking and accel vs. what you had on previously (17s or 18s?)?

[LBarnes]

That offset should put the tire (265) almost 1/2" closer to the strut.
Apparently it is working on the car, but mathmatically it should rub. The offset should be about 35mm with a 265.

[yatyas]

It looks really good.

I'm not a fan of going to a smaller diameter tire, but it sure looks good on yours.

I've got 285's on mine but I needed to beat on the inner well and shave the lip off so they would fit.


Same Same

[Havoc]

That offset should put the tire (265) almost 1/2" closer to the strut.
Apparently it is working on the car, but mathmatically it should rub. The offset should be about 35mm with a 265.

Well assuming his listed offsets are correct you can only conclude the smallish rounded shouldered Toyos are saving his a$$.

[JNR]

I think 275's fit a 10" wheel nicely. I have 10" on my Chevelle with 275/60-15 (hey, there wasn't much available for a tall & wide 15" wheel), and they fit and work great...The difference though, is I could *easily* fit a 315 or wider tire, if I could only find one :p (I am putting in a '67 rear, which is 1" narrower, so even more space).

Damn you GM for making these GTO's so *****footed in the wheel sizes!

[11 Bravo]

Have you tried it with a hard launch?

You're not gonna be able to get a very hard launch with 19's lol. It's good for looks, if you think it looks good.

[LS2Greg]

You're not gonna be able to get a very hard launch with 19's lol. It's good for looks, if you think it looks good.

x2!

Reminds me of that video of the Grand National that was sporting 20s at the track. Let's just say he was in the market for a new axle after the race. LOL

[chirogto]

x2!

Reminds me of that video of the Grand National that was sporting 20s at the track. Let's just say he was in the market for a new axle after the race. LOL

I have seen that video. I thought he was referring more to the lack of sidewall and its effect on traction...

[11 Bravo]

I thought he was referring more to the lack of sidewall and its effect on traction...

Yep. Not to mention you'll have a rougher ride.

[s/c'd cav]

peoples reading skills suck in this thread , LOL


I think 275's fit a 10" wheel nicely. I have 10" on my Chevelle with 275/60-15 (hey, there wasn't much available for a tall & wide 15" wheel), and they fit and work great...The difference though, is I could *easily* fit a 315 or wider tire, if I could only find one :p (I am putting in a '67 rear, which is 1" narrower, so even more space).

Damn you GM for making these GTO's so *****footed in the wheel sizes!

there is a BIG different with a 28" tall tire on a 15" rim , compared to a 25.7" tall tire on a 19" , its called the side wall

the 28" on a 15" has a lot of sidewall which allows it to fit properly on the wheel , where the shorter tire on a taller rim has alot less side wall to fill in the difference

my 68 elco has the room for a 335/35/17


id say it looks good , but the tires are way to small for the wheels , and that makes it look like ass

enjoy the curb rash , and flat spots from hitting stuff in the not so smooth roads

[LS2Greg]

Well, now he's got more food for thought LOL. But yes, it is definitely going to be a lot rougher ride

[holden1984]

i think i call bs. i have 19x19.5 (275x65x19) in the rear and they rub on ever hard launch. and if i have anyone in the car at all they rub more. and if there are people in the back the rub alot. so i suppose if you are like 150 lbs and drive alone always then maybe you could do it, but if there is weight in the car at all you ll be rubbing all night long...

[BLACK05GTO]

i think i call bs. i have 19x19.5 (275x65x19) in the rear and they rub on ever hard launch. and if i have anyone in the car at all they rub more. and if there are people in the back the rub alot. so i suppose if you are like 150 lbs and drive alone always then maybe you could do it, but if there is weight in the car at all you ll be rubbing all night long...


What tires are you running?

He's running Toyo's and they seem to run smaller than other tires.
But I agree with you that they should rub.

[s/c'd cav]

i think i call bs. i have 19x19.5 (275x65x19) in the rear and they rub on ever hard launch. and if i have anyone in the car at all they rub more. and if there are people in the back the rub alot. so i suppose if you are like 150 lbs and drive alone always then maybe you could do it, but if there is weight in the car at all you ll be rubbing all night long...

275/65/19 , gawd dam them is some tall tires , no wonder they rub

what tires and what offset wheels do you have , that has alot to do with any rubbing

also the mileage on the car and how wore out the suspension is will cause it also

[SRGTO]

That offset should put the tire (265) almost 1/2" closer to the strut.
Apparently it is working on the car, but mathmatically it should rub. The offset should be about 35mm with a 265.

Actually I have more clearance on the strut with this set-up vs. the stockers.

[SRGTO]

i think i call bs. i have 19x19.5 (275x65x19) in the rear and they rub on ever hard launch. and if i have anyone in the car at all they rub more. and if there are people in the back the rub alot. so i suppose if you are like 150 lbs and drive alone always then maybe you could do it, but if there is weight in the car at all you ll be rubbing all night long...

I have had 3 people in the car with no rub. Call bs all you want I will show you any picture you desire.

[SRGTO]

Wow... are those figures straight from the rims? I'm surprised Roh would specifically manufacture a wheel for the GTO which places it 7-8mm[ B]closer[/B] to the strut than factory wheels.

Could be the angle of the photos but even the rear offsets look better than an ET50.

The offset is from the receipt... It is not stamped on th erim. But I do think it is a little different because they look like they were made for the car.

[SRGTO]

First off I have been overwhelmed with PM's on this tire set.... So let me answer a few questions:

1.) Lip on the front and rear rim is identical at 3 inches.
2.) The 19x9 w 265/30's up front actually sits further from the strut than the original 17's. My original 17's had a very slight rub on both struts.
3.) The supplier I get them from has a GTO and took all measurements and requested them from ROH. He is a Direct Supplier of ROH wheels and has been racing for years anywhere from SCCA, GT and now Indy, and has done business with ROH for a very long time which is probably why they did this for him.
5.) There is enough tire to prevent "rash" on minor bumps. In fact I ride mine through the car wash with out issue.
6.) If anyone looks at the Porsche 911S or Turbo you will see the tire fitment is very similar with a wider rim and the tire wraps the rim with a lower profile. That is why I looked for this tire fitment.
7.) Ride is same as my 18's believe it or not -- keep in mind I am running my stock springs.

[s/c'd cav]

that picture make the tires look way to narrow for the wheels , its harder the more the sidewalls gotta stretch to meet the wheels , curbs are will damage them alot easier than is the side wall was square to the wheels , and they cushion better when they are square to bubbled out

but as long as your happy

http://www.rmgto.com/gallery/albums/LS2FAST/PICT00 03_003.sized.jpg

[2006 GTO]

Man, the tire set up is sweet. Thank you for sharing this information so that I can do this in the future!!

[tripower]

Please PM me with your source. Thanks.

[nascar2448]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the issue with rubbing was on hard launches. These cars love to squat on hard take offs. Have you tried it with a hard launch?

Scared the crap out of me when I first heard the tires rub my fenders on a hard launch. Not good when you consider these tires are around $250 a piece! Took care of that issue with my Pedders drag springs. No rubbing at all now.

[roc06gto]

Your setup looks great! could you pm me details also.

[SRGTO]

OK... I have had these for a little over a week now with no rubbing or any issues whatsoever. Then it happened.... I was in a heavy acceleration (2nd gear :D) while turning and I hit a dip in the road. This caused a very slight rub.... no damage (Whew). I also had a full tank of gas.

So, now I will put some Pedder 0 drops in the rear and 1/2 inch drops in the front. This should correct that problem.

[BLACK05GTO]

OK... I have had these for a little over a week now with no rubbing or any issues whatsoever. Then it happened.... I was in a heavy acceleration (2nd gear :D) while turning and I hit a dip in the road. This caused a very slight rub.... no damage (Whew). I also had a full tank of gas.

So, now I will put some Pedder 0 drops in the rear and 1/2 inch drops in the front. This should correct that problem.

Where did they rub? Up front or in the back?

[s/c'd cav]

3/8" drop fronts might be better than 1/2"

[purplenurple]

3/8" drop fronts might be better than 1/2"

True...and 1/2" drop in the back as opposed to no drop.:yumyum:

[Jay06GTO]

sweet.

[zero]

yea.. where's the rub? fender lip? inner fender?
fronts or backs?
i assume backs for the acceleration full tank of gas thing.

[Mikey340]

Just got the same set-up off e-bay not cheap though.
Can't wait to get them in the mail!!
Mike

P.S. The Stern's will be going to my nephew Joneseyy21 05/PBM/M6/Red.

[VooDoo]

I was in the ROH factory this week. No problem at all for them to make the wheels in this offset. I have some 19x8" ROH Modena's being converted as soon as they get their new machine (the wheel manufacturing machine broke and 4 mths for a replacement DOH!!)

[BOTLFED98]

wow can't believe they don't rub.............Drift Rs FTW!

[SRGTO]

yea.. where's the rub? fender lip? inner fender?
fronts or backs?
i assume backs for the acceleration full tank of gas thing.

Rub was the back wheel on the lip... an ever so light scratch. The front wheels take a beating on dips and turns with no rub what so ever. In fact the 265's are an easier fit up front than the rears.

So here is what I did.

Rear Springs are Pedder 1/2 drop with a 10mm insulator on the bottom of the spring. That puts my car at 607mm on each side in the rear with a full tank of gas. Under hard acceleration and turning it works well... no rubbing and I went over the same dip that caused me to notice the problem.

For the fronts I put the Pedder 3/8 drop which puts the front at 605mm each side... so far so good. Note: I also added new strut tower mounts and Bearings.

The f/r ride height is only after 2 days of settling. I will measure again in a few weeks.

I will take pictures this weekend and post for you all to view.

[ddawson]

I had the same slight scratch on the passenger side. I didn't touch it until it was time for new tires, then I had the lips trimmed and the fender well modified for more room.

You really need to sit 2 large adults in back to find out if you have full travel.

[SRGTO]

OK, I think car is settled now with new suspension. Here ar some pics with new heights specified.

Fronts measure 605mm on both sides exactly
Rears measure 611mm on both sides exactly

http://www.rmgto.com/gallery/albums/LS2FAST/PICT00 01_005.sized.jpg

http://www.rmgto.com/gallery/albums/LS2FAST/PICT00 03_004.sized.jpg

http://www.rmgto.com/gallery/albums/LS2FAST/PICT00 04_004.sized.jpg

[wango-z-tango]

I may join this club over the weekend.

[Mikey340]

Just got mine on today will post pics soon.
Mike

[wango-z-tango]

Through the top-secret, mercenary, and nefarious means commonly employed by American industry, I ended up with a set of these as well, the 19x9/19x10 silver Drift-Rs. Mine came shod in Hankook Ventus K104 265/30 and 275/30, which you will likely see for sale on the board since I have a contact at Dunlop.

To kick off this writeup, please begin by acquiring a set of McGard Made in U.S.A. spline drive lugnuts and locks. Your $100 investment means that undesirables who possess only chinese tools are unlikely to have the spline drive socket needed to boost your wheels. Also, because they are made in Buffalo, USA by my brethren, your extra $34 over chinese splines will bring a lifetime guarantee and prosperity to the land. The set looks like this:

http://www.dmic.com/temp/catchcan/img_1822_mini.jp g

There is an OD size diff between the OE 18s and the 275/30s on 19", but my Potenzas were burned down to the cords, so there's 8/32 of the difference seen in this pic:

http://www.dmic.com/temp/catchcan/img_1820_mini.jp g

Here is the finished result. Though we all want bigger meats in the back, I think the front benefits most from the steamroller look.

http://www.dmic.com/temp/catchcan/img_1834_mini.jp g

To address the question of strut rub, here are some pics taken with the cam's macro function, from inside the wheelwell. Since I am a noob to strut rub, it looks OK to me, but maybe some of you will beg to differ.

http://www.dmic.com/temp/catchcan/img_1831_mini.jp g

http://www.dmic.com/temp/catchcan/img_1832_mini.jp g

WzT

[SRGTO]

Very nice... Welcome to the club!

That looks very nice. Do you also have lowering springs??
How is the ride??

[GTOJOE04]

Mikey340 that was prob you and me doing battle on ebay last week.....I ended up getting a set to. I'll post my pics when I get mine on. My 18's will go up for sale after that.

[wango-z-tango]

My setup is the King springs 3/8ths front lower, stock rear. Ride is OK so far, SRGTO, just been to the store for odds & ends and now back at work, comme de l'habitude.

Thanks for providing the inspiration that this mod is good !!!

One thing that is surprising, is that anyone who disses the stock Potenzas is in for a wakeup call when changing to a 2nd tier tire like the Hankook Ventus. Maybe the Toyos too. It will probably result in fender-rolling and an emergency order for front coilovers when I get my Dunlops, but I think the OE tires in 235 were better than these. Still have to tune pressures, so time will tell.

Cheers to the steamroller club.

[Mikey340]

Mikey340 that was prob you and me doing battle on ebay last week.....I ended up getting a set to. I'll post my pics when I get mine on. My 18's will go up for sale after that.

Probably I really wanted this setup.
Will paint the spokes in body color YJ when I find someone skilled enough to do them.
Mike

[wango-z-tango]

I watched your eBay melée. I'd tell ya what happened but D'Oh is for the Simpsons. Welcome to the club guys, you will soon both be steamrolling.

[SRGTO]

Mikey... lets see those pics.

[SRGTO]

My setup is the King springs 3/8ths front lower, stock rear. Ride is OK so far, SRGTO, just been to the store for odds & ends and now back at work, comme de l'habitude.

Thanks for providing the inspiration that this mod is good !!!

One thing that is surprising, is that anyone who disses the stock Potenzas is in for a wakeup call when changing to a 2nd tier tire like the Hankook Ventus. Maybe the Toyos too. It will probably result in fender-rolling and an emergency order for front coilovers when I get my Dunlops, but I think the OE tires in 235 were better than these. Still have to tune pressures, so time will tell.

Cheers to the steamroller club.

What are the measurements of your ride height from the bottlom of the lip of your rim to the fender wheel lip?

Just currious... since I went with the pedders.

[wango-z-tango]

From the ground I have 654mm on the fronts, and 667 on the backs.

From the bottom of the rim, as I think you are asking for, it's 607/614.

Is this bad ? LOL ! I'm more concerned about the Hankooks being the perfect tire for Hollywood ... lots of Rockford/Hawaii-Five0 style screeching when me old balde Potenzas would stick like shiite to a blanket.

[SRGTO]

From the ground I have 654mm on the fronts, and 667 on the backs.

From the bottom of the rim, as I think you are asking for, it's 607/614.

Is this bad ? LOL ! I'm more concerned about the Hankooks being the perfect tire for Hollywood ... lots of Rockford/Hawaii-Five0 style screeching when me old balde Potenzas would stick like shiite to a blanket.

That is a great stance... very close to mine. But I see you are running the stock rear springs which gives you more squat during acceleration. I am running the -3/8 front and the -1/2 rear drop with a 10mm insulator. so I sit at 605/611.

Your car looks Great!

[wango-z-tango]

Oops, I should have been more literate in the previous post ... I am running the King stock height rears. So far no rubs that I can pin down, but there are the old F-bodyesque indications that something isn't ideal in the kingdom.

From reading about the Pedderphiles with coilovers and Zero's glowing testimonial of the KW kit, it's a foregone conclusion that I will be going coilovers when I get Dunlop Sport Maxx's from a Factory contact. At which time, the Holy Grail 305's in the rear should be possible with rolling and mild persuasion of the inner fender.

EDIT: Hence the desire for the 10" rear wheel, even though as supplied, a 275 is stretched on.

[Motown]

Could you tell me where you got those rims at. The website, maybe a price. thanks

[wango-z-tango]

It's a secret. If I tell you, Gravana Jim will have to kill you. Besides, I think the factory testers are all gone.

[KrautBurner]

so...

what tires are you running?
size?

I'm looking at a set of drift r's
18x8 front
and 18x10 rear, I think the offset was 49
I'm leaning towards 295/35-18 bfg's
or just nitto 555 race 285's

I already have my fenders cut,
and have 275/40-17 Mickey Thompson DR's on stock wheels

[bssofro]

OK, here you go...

http://www.rmgto.com/gallery/albums/LS2FAST/PICT00 14.sized.jpg

Great pic.

Can you do the same for the REARS??
I am curious to see how the rear tire LOOKS underneath the car in relationship to the fender and the bumper cover.

Thanks

[GTOJOE04]

wang-z-tangoI hope to get mine on Monday at least thats what UPS says. I'll try to get up pics up when I get them on. What do think is the best spring setup is? I wanted to ask someone with the same setup that I'll have.

[wango-z-tango]

wang-z-tangoI hope to get mine on Monday at least thats what UPS says. I'll try to get up pics up when I get them on. What do think is the best spring setup is? I wanted to ask someone with the same setup that I'll have.

Not sure that there is any user configuration for the King 3/8 drop front and King stock height rears, Joe. My alignment specs are factory except for the crown washer delete on the front Radius Rod bushings.

After the first day or two the little rubs seem to go away ... maybe the big tires are busting the cherry on the fender lip edges and any other parts that need more clearance. I tend to occasionally really push it, and I think the car flexes enough to cause those shakedown rubs. Another poster also was correct that after a few heat/cool cycles, new tires seem to get better. I only ever get new tires with a new car, so am/was clueless as to what to expect.

Congrats on your acquisition, Joe. Be sure to post us up some pics when yours arrive.

http://www.dmic.com/temp/catchcan/img_1837_mini.jp g

[bssofro]

Thanks for the pic Wango....I was looking for something like this.....
THANKS in advance if you can do this.


http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/954/gtopaint008 zo7.jpg

[wango-z-tango]

Here are some pics, sorry they're bad quality. Pics #2 and #3 are macro shots from below/inside the wheelwell on the outside. If you see anything wrong with this setup please offer feedback. Although I think it's OK as advertised with no need for rolling, I am beginning to feel that rolling wouldn't hurt, especially if moving to tires that don't run small in 275 or above.

http://www.dmic.com/temp/catchcan/img_1842_mini.jp g

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[Mattguyver2]

Very, very nice.

[SRGTO]

OK... I ended up rolling my fenders last night.

I did not rub at all with my new springs, but everyone has me nervous about Loading up with passengers and all that jazz. So I figured just as insurance I would roll them. Now I am thinking of 285's in the back :wiggle:

[wango-z-tango]

OK... I ended up rolling my fenders last night.

I did not rub at all with my new springs, but everyone has me nervous about Loading up with passengers and all that jazz. So I figured just as insurance I would roll them. Now I am thinking of 285's in the back :wiggle:

OT: Do you own or have access to a roller ? If so, please IM if you'd be willing to rent it out. I'd prepay freight both ways.

EDIT: The roll should be good for a small section 305 or normal 295 based on what I can see.

[SRGTO]

OT: Do you own or have access to a roller ? If so, please IM if you'd be willing to rent it out. I'd prepay freight both ways.

EDIT: The roll should be good for a small section 305 or normal 295 based on what I can see.

Unfortnately I do not have a roller. Long story short... A friend hooked me up for some IT work I did for his business.

WOW... 305's! I will wait until these wear and then see what fits. I am thinking more like 285's

[SaintsGoat8]

does anybody think that 18 by 10 drift R's in the back and 19 by 9 in the front would look good because I wanna run drag radials on them and there are none for 19 I also have my rear fenders rolled all the way in so i can put wider tires maybe.

Or would that look bad?

[Mikey340]

Finally got a few pics Not very good lighting was terrible.
And changed brake pads and noticed a slight rub on both sides in the rear actually the rim. So I did a little persuading with a sledge!
http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/8/23319561593.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6390243)
http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/8/23319561546.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6390241)
http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/8/23319561554.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6390239)
http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/8/23319561447.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6390237)
http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/8/23319561483.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6390236)
Mike

[wango-z-tango]

Thanks for posting up, Mikey. I was thinking too that persuading was needed on the inside ..

It's a collaborative effort if everyone can eventually feel comfortable with 265s in the front (except Swmn who is a Disciple of God and gets 275's to work) ... and ye olde Holy Grail 305s in the rear.

I will, for one, dismount the rear(s) and see where/if I am getting inner fender rubbing, to follow your lead.

Yellowjacket is such a nice color BTW

[pwr_shift]

does anybody think that 18 by 10 drift R's in the back and 19 by 9 in the front would look good because I wanna run drag radials on them and there are none for 19 I also have my rear fenders rolled all the way in so i can put wider tires maybe.

Or would that look bad?

It'll look great if you have fond memories of your Tricycle.

[ddawson]

The rubbing on the inside fender well will be in front of the shock. You will see it once the rims are off. Hit it with a sledge hammer and knock the whole section in a few MM's.

Then scrape the broken paint off and paint it black again.

[SRGTO]

I pulled my wheels to look for rubbing on rear inner fender well and sure enough there was a slight rub. So I took a sledge to it and repainted with Black. Looks good too.

I also pulled my fronts off... and there is no rubbing at all. everything there looks good.

[Havoc]

Can the next one of you guys to pull the rear to check for rubbing measure the backspacing on your rim? If the offset on these Drift-R's are supposedly +50 and CCW's are +54, they (CCW owners) should be experiencing a lot more rubbing than you guys.

[Mikey340]

Thanks for posting up, Mikey. I was thinking too that persuading was needed on the inside ..

It's a collaborative effort if everyone can eventually feel comfortable with 265s in the front (except Swmn who is a Disciple of God and gets 275's to work) ... and ye olde Holy Grail 305s in the rear.

I will, for one, dismount the rear(s) and see where/if I am getting inner fender rubbing, to follow your lead.

Yellowjacket is such a nice color BTW

Thanks Wango
I only hammered it enough so it wouldn't rub I'll do more persuading when I try to go bigger in the rear 295 or 305 when these wear out.
I need somebody once I get a good pic to photo shop the center YJ instead of magnesium I think it would look sick!!
No rub at all in the front and its REAL close to the strut.
Mike

[SRGTO]

That YJ with Magnesium looks HOT. I like it the way it is.

[Mikey340]

I wanna see if it can look better! in yellow Lol isn't that always the case this is my 4th set of rims on this car!
Mike

[angermgmt20]

Here are my 19x9 & 19x10 Drift R's. What a difference! Also have Pedders 5/16" springs.

[Mikey340]

Noice!!
Mike

[bnb5550]

do you think you could have gotten 275s in the front? im thinking of picking up a set of 18x9 and doing 275s all around. hopefully i would still be able to use some pedders drop springs though.

[wango-z-tango]

do you think you could have gotten 275s in the front? im thinking of picking up a set of 18x9 and doing 275s all around. hopefully i would still be able to use some pedders drop springs though.

The member Swmn has some excellent writeups in Searchfruit and does/did run a 275. With this set, it looks like you will have to go to front coilovers and maybe a fender roll if the 275s are not thin-section.

[bnb5550]

The member Swmn has some excellent writeups in Searchfruit and does/did run a 275. With this set, it looks like you will have to go to front coilovers and maybe a fender roll if the 275s are not thin-section.why coilovers?

[wango-z-tango]

why coilovers?

The tire-to-strut clearance with the stock strut is already very small. Adding 5mm of section width with the stockers will undoubtedly result in rub, with this kit. I posted some macro pics in this thread from inside the wheelwell of how the clearance looks with 265s.

My thought is that the only way someone will get above 265 is by changing the front struts.

[SRGTO]

I would have to say no to 275's with the 19x9 fronts... just not enough clearance on the strut.

[bnb5550]

I would have to say no to 275's with the 19x9 fronts... just not enough clearance on the strut.im talking about 18x9, not 19x9

[wango-z-tango]

im talking about 18x9, not 19x9

Your idea of having the same tire/wheel all around may not work, because the offset is different on the front. Honestly I'm not a diehard on this, and others can guide you further. The people who devised this setup had a lot of engineering collateral and it basically is the maximum with this line of wheels.

[jim2527]

I'm still trying to figure out how 19X10's fit the rear if more than one person has had the rim itself hit the fender. Why not keep the same sized tire with a slightly narrower rim that way the tire is wider than the rim. Like a 19X9 or 9.5 with a 275.

It seems like this all cheating...."I have 19 x 10" (but it rubs) and 275 tires (but they have retarded rounded shoulders) Throw the 19 X9 's on the rear with square shoulder 265 tire that looks better and has the same if not more tread width and wont rub.

seems like everyone one is more caught up in saying they have a particular size.....

[Havoc]

I'm still trying to figure out how 19X10's fit the rear if more than one person has had the rim itself hit the fender. Why not keep the same sized tire with a slightly narrower rim that way the tire is wider than the rim. Like a 19X9 or 9.5 with a 275.

It seems like this all cheating...."I have 19 x 10" (but it rubs) and 275 tires (but they have retarded rounded shoulders) Throw the 19 X9 's on the rear with square shoulder 265 tire that looks better and has the same if not more tread width and wont rub.

seems like everyone one is more caught up in saying they have a particular size.....

Sad, but I believe you've just hit the proverbial "nail on the head!"

[s/c'd cav]

but my pecker is 1" bigger than yours dam it

[ddawson]

Hey I'm 5'5" so I'm allowed the something is bigger then yours.

I will admit it’s nice to see 265 on the front because I was to chicken to try it.

The 10” rim with the 275 just looked too narrow to me so I switched to a 285 which look much better.

I was originally going to do the Drift R’s but the front rim spokes always stuck out too far. It looks much cleaner with the new width.

[wango-z-tango]

I'm still trying to figure out how 19X10's fit the rear if more than one person has had the rim itself hit the fender. Why not keep the same sized tire with a slightly narrower rim that way the tire is wider than the rim. Like a 19X9 or 9.5 with a 275.

It seems like this all cheating...."I have 19 x 10" (but it rubs) and 275 tires (but they have retarded rounded shoulders) Throw the 19 X9 's on the rear with square shoulder 265 tire that looks better and has the same if not more tread width and wont rub.

seems like everyone one is more caught up in saying they have a particular size.....

The reason is, that if you want to have a 305 on the back, you need a 10" rim for approved tire fitment. Some of us don't want to sit there with Bose headphones and scanners with our Dads watching shit happen ... we make it happen. So we take out 18# sledges and fender rollers, and fit 305's.

Is this a satisfactory explanation ?

BTW, my Dad was chief engineer for Lamborghini and in Monterey I found a splitting image of his olde Alfa Giulia ... I think that will make him very happy seeing my C6 rental beside his olde car. Olde and new generation.

Nice to meet you at Infineon. I tried to introduce myself, but you guys were heavily engrossed on the RF/nightvision hardware and ppl were sort of trying to approach you two, but to no avail, you had the Canon 1000mm teles and were intent on perching for photo ops.

Does this explain in a satisfactory manner why ours is bigger ? BTW, my rental car that weekend was bigger too, but that's in another thread.

[wango-z-tango]

Hey I'm 5.5" so I'm allowed the something is bigger then yours.


Oh jeez please don't start us up on this. Pillsbury just hit the nail on the head ...

[wango-z-tango]

I'm still trying to figure out how 19X10's fit the rear if more than one person has had the rim itself hit the fender.

The tire has an incidental rub on the inside of the wheelwell when you are really giving it in spirited driving/autocross conditions. Testers of this kit (the ROH factory, for Monaros) approve it in static conditions.

The owners of this set are already on top of it with the solution originally developed by CCW owners. We have sledgehammers.

Naysayers with DarthVader Nindendo WII controllers and boxes of Kleenex by the bedside, are not recommended for going where no man has gone before, because ... um ... you need a sledgehammer.

[wango-z-tango]

Would this be an OK situation to use the internet term, "****tard" ? Or is Asshat sufficient ? Just curious on autocensor settings since JEW JEW JEW was formerly allowed.

WzT

[Havoc]

The tire has an incidental rub on the inside of the wheelwell when you are really giving it in spirited driving/autocross conditions. Testers of this kit (the ROH factory, for Monaros) approve it in static conditions.

The owners of this set are already on top of it with the solution originally developed by CCW owners. We have sledgehammers.

Naysayers with DarthVader Nindendo WII controllers and boxes of Kleenex by the bedside, are not recommended for going where no man has gone before, because ... um ... you need a sledgehammer.

If you're already hitting the inner wheel well with smallish 275's, do you honestly believe you're gonna get 305's fitting in there?

As for CCW owners and the so-called sledgehammer solution; if using the sledge is the key, why aren't any of them running 305's, or even 295's for that matter?

btw... these questions are sort of rhetorical. I already know the answers, I just want to hear yours! lol

[wango-z-tango]

I know the answers too ... my friend. Yep, I will run 305s when I feel like it. My current comptroller is a Dunlop alumnus and is qualifed for 12 sets of tires a year. I can get Sport Maxx's for peanuts. She is an amazing woman ... 38DD's minimum on a size 6 frame, she'd make your Telefunken cry for mercy, but we don't fish off the company pier.

So if I grind a set of proto 305s, which is unlikely because the ROH factory tested on Monaros, here's what I will do...

I will put away the XXXBox and the playboys and Dunegons & Dragons, and take my 18# sledge. Behind the shock will be evidence of a rub-point. I will persude it.

If I fahk up, I'll take my uber hot > Pontiac Kristen comptroller for margaritas, and beg her for another set of Sport Maxx's off her pension deal ... and BTW, she's 42 with full pension and I pay her x00,000 a year.

Does this address your concerns ?

[wango-z-tango]

btw... these questions are sort of rhetorical. I already know the answers, I just want to hear yours! lol

So if I asked you if you ever got laid in your life with your fat gut and 300 lb Dad babysitting you ... that would be rhetorical too ?

Careful who you pick on, Poindexter ... if you show up with a 16 PSI API'd GTO and piss me off, first of all you have a 100 lb disadvantage which is bad for your cholesterol, and secondly, I can make a phone call and obtain a McLaren F1. Airfreight would be the BIG SUXXOR, but I could.

In the meantime, while you learn the meaning of pud, all I can say is that if you plan to sit there with your Boze self-important zcanner self-indulgent shiite, while the rest of the world is going on around you ... you need to take up jogging and lose 100 lbs, 'cause the P-car 944's will whip yer ass if you have Daddy who payz for it in the car.

Don't cause more "Havoc" than me, dudette,

WzT

[ddawson]

LOL, BTW did we meet on Saturday in Sonoma? I was the Short Guy wearing the GTO-R shirt and brown Outback hat.

[GOATHEAD55]

:thumbs:

[Havoc]

I know the answers too ... my friend. Yep, I will run 305s when I feel like it. My current comptroller is a Dunlop alumnus and is qualifed for 12 sets of tires a year. I can get Sport Maxx's for peanuts. She is an amazing woman ... 38DD's minimum on a size 6 frame, she'd make your Telefunken cry for mercy, but we don't fish off the company pier.

So if I grind a set of proto 305s, which is unlikely because the ROH factory tested on Monaros, here's what I will do...

I will put away the XXXBox and the playboys and Dunegons & Dragons, and take my 18# sledge. Behind the shock will be evidence of a rub-point. I will persude it.

If I fahk up, I'll take my uber hot > Pontiac Kristen comptroller for margaritas, and beg her for another set of Sport Maxx's off her pension deal ... and BTW, she's 42 with full pension and I pay her x00,000 a year.

Does this address your concerns ?

So if I asked you if you ever got laid in your life with your fat gut and 300 lb Dad babysitting you ... that would be rhetorical too ?

Careful who you pick on, Poindexter ... if you show up with a 16 PSI API'd GTO and piss me off, first of all you have a 100 lb disadvantage which is bad for your cholesterol, and secondly, I can make a phone call and obtain a McLaren F1. Airfreight would be the BIG SUXXOR, but I could.

In the meantime, while you learn the meaning of pud, all I can say is that if you plan to sit there with your Boze self-important zcanner self-indulgent shiite, while the rest of the world is going on around you ... you need to take up jogging and lose 100 lbs, 'cause the P-car 944's will whip yer ass if you have Daddy who payz for it in the car.

Don't cause more "Havoc" than me, dudette,

WzT


Oh boy! Are you for real?!! LOL ...are you off your meds or something?

I mean, it was fairly obvious you were sort of a BS'er, but geez!!! That was being kind!
Now I can see you're nothing more than a pathetic, insecure, delusional little kid who apparently gets his rocks off boasting on the Internet... Grow up junior, you're not impressing anyone! If anything, you just lost any credibility you may have had. :monkee:boy

[GTOJOE04]

Well I told Mike and Wango-z-tango that I would post when I had them on. Here you go guys.

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc177/GTOJOE04/ DSC_2097.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc177/GTOJOE04/ DSC_2109.jpg

[Phoenix]

She is an amazing woman ... 38DD's minimum on a size 6 frame, she'd make your Telefunken cry for mercy, but we don't fish off the company pier.



:worthless:

[wango-z-tango]

Hehehe, N'Shah Allah. Thank you mods for passing on the sanctions which were borderline deserved in this case, actually. I had an incident where I was drinking with a deployed Marine for over 6 hours on the inbound, and I think the multiple Jaegerbombs at Charlotte proved challenging to surmount. Mind you ... Engineers 1, Marines 0, on "breaking the seal", although Jason could have killed all the non-military board members like The Gladiator and walked away standing, for Jaegerbombs another day.

GTOJOE04, cool look you have with the silver wheels on a black car ! I bet you're thrilled with the difference it makes.

BTW, my apologies folks for being a little anti-social in the previous posts ... you spend 7 hours with a hero, absorbing tales of heroism and sacrifice, and it puts a different light on reading a whiner post from a member who's out of the right flavor of Twinkies. I gave Jason the Marine my Pontiac Motorsports hat, and he gave me a "heads-tails" coin from his wallet that has seen 7 tours of duty. And for the first time, I hugged a guy goodbye. That is all.

[SRGTO]

Well I told Mike and Wango-z-tango that I would post when I had them on. Here you go guys.

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc177/GTOJOE04/ DSC_2097.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc177/GTOJOE04/ DSC_2109.jpg

WOW! Looks Beautiful in black.

[Mikey340]

Noice!
Mike

[SRGTO]

All of you running 19x10 in the back like me, a few notes for you.

1.) When I mentioned in my earlier post that I had a slight rub. That rub only happened one time and never again. I measured where the rub was on the inside fender wheel and it was approx. 4 inches above where the tire sits. So the dip that I hit was pretty deep. I was also running stock springs which contributed to the 4 inch squat.

2.) Since the install of my pedders set-up, I wouldn't of even "rolled or massaged" the fender for insurance. I am confident that since the squat in the back has been reduced so much with the springs that the 1 time ever so slight rub wouldn't have even happened.

3.) I have approx. 1/2 inch clearance from the back of the wheel rim to the inner fender wheel which gives me plenty of clearance for the 285's which I will be getting... not for awhile albeit.

What have you all experienced since your install... comments would be appreciated.

[GTOJOE04]

SRGTO Got mine on a week ago and I have not had any rubs or bumps. I will be getting springs soon to fix the squat. Looking forward to going bigger in the back when I wear these down.

[wango-z-tango]

Since my install, I had a bunch of SUNY Buffalo students move in this weekend including a quartet of uber hot former-CCCP Russian girls, whom I had over to my pad for a glass of champagne. Also, I think I left teh Guinness record longest smoky burnout in the shortest runway, with a 50-odd footer over a maybe 75 ft runspace, while I was chatting up teh Soviet 18yos. Does this qualify me as either a pervert, crazy, or both ? BTW ... always keep that Mumm's in the fridge, ya never know when it will come in handly. Maybe when I am done with workin' I can head back there & see what Olga & the crowd are upto.

[Mikey340]

Zero problems except the rubbing of inner fender well easily fixed with small sledge;-)
Mike

[SRGTO]

Good to hear guys.

Looks like a trend is starting with these ROH Wheels. I like the fact that I have not seen these rims on any other car on the road so far.

[angermgmt20]

I continue to get kudos on these wheels! I have had 3 of my local friendly police officers even commenting on my ride now. Hopefully they will consider that next time I chirp these tires when I take off at the stop lights:gears: and my lack of a front license plate:secret:

[wango-z-tango]

These rims really give the GTO the right "look", huh guys ? I have had some significant hardware like C5 'Vettes and SRT 300Cs, as well as many ricers, behave at stoplights through the intimidation factor. I think they figure, hmm, sounds loud ... look at the OMG
tire in those wheelwells, 'this guy's gonna smoke me'. LOL.

[Whizzer]

Man I so want these wheels.

[SRGTO]

These rims really give the GTO the right "look", huh guys ? I have had some significant hardware like C5 'Vettes and SRT 300Cs, as well as many ricers, behave at stoplights through the intimidation factor. I think they figure, hmm, sounds loud ... look at the OMG
tire in those wheelwells, 'this guy's gonna smoke me'. LOL.

LOL... I get the same reaction. Before the wheels, people would want to rev their engines or attempt a race etc. Now I just get alot of looks with a lot of "Thumbs Up" and questions about how fast or how much HP.

[camaronx]

WOW! Looks Beautiful in black.

please pm me on where to get those freakin thick wheels/tires---they are goin on my torrid red 05 m6

[GTOJOE04]

Had my buddy in the car tonight and went over a few bumps noticed a rub in the back so I I will put it up on the lift in the morning and massage (hehe) the inner fender.

[bad07gsxr705]

Thats sick

[wango-z-tango]

Heya Zero (gratuitous bump BTW),

The front 265s tuck more gracefully than the rears. Were it not for strut clearance, you get the impression that with your coilovers and these ROH wheels, you could get away with even narrow profile 285s on the 9" 42P offset (or more, with Zero's Krauterstein uber-coilovers). There is about 5mm strut clearance on the stocker fronts.

The 10" 50P rears have some issues with being non-turnkey, but with fender roll and inner fender persuasion, definitely can support 305, but doubtfully wider than 315-325 due to the outer fender lip.

So, to answer your question and provide a fun bump to this thread ... "yes".

[bobby]

Please pm me with all the info I need for that set up. Your car looks awesome.

[wango-z-tango]

Neither the front nor rear tires stick out at all. That is the beauty of the way ROH set up these kits. They clear the bodywork as perfectly and matter of factly as stock. A couple of employees have commented that "those rims look MADE for the car". And they were ... by ROH.

[camaronx]

is the front more aggressive than the back?
They have 18" silvers also----even 18 x 10"s---just check out site thread starter is pm'ing everyone about----big selection of 18" tires

[wango-z-tango]

Unfortunately, I think if you want the 9/10 combo fast action is warranted for, in whatever diameter. It's probably true that the Drift R is done in production. Zero, maybe you can benefit from shopping online in .AU without a huge cost penalty.

As for tires, I got a smokin ~50% off deal on a 500mi used set with wheels+tires on, which were Hankook K104s, so who cares about the skins ? They won't last long anyway, and provide for a good learning experience in autocross and self-instruction, before switching to GS-D3s, Sport Maxx, Pilot, etc.

[zero]

thats t

[wango-z-tango]

I bought the ROH set that actually rolled, and the "price penalty" was somewhat negated, but agreed, going 19's gets you vanity with less tire selection, arguably less straight line performance, and the constant threat that one Michigan size pothole puts your prized Drift R's in the aluminum dumpster.

More power to you, Zero, please post up pics of what you end up with ! Also, with your coilovers, you can be bold and spec 275's all around and probably have no issues on 42P fronts.

[camaronx]

but ya i did not know you wanted 18 x 10 fronts. Wow zero that would be cool to have rotatable 18 x 10"s

[camaronx]

thats the other thing.. 19s pay a price penalty as well.

If I cant get the cheap 18x9s.. i'll just go jlines.. now that I have the offset numbers.
Jlines offer a better selection and better finish and style... just at a greater cost.

jlines? are they on the same site as the dirft r's pm me zero bout the jlines

[wango-z-tango]

Cam, we can't "tell" you where to get the Drift-R's on this site because they are not sponsors. But you can easily find it out on Google and/or eBay. Start to dig in, man, with Google searches like "ROH USA", Arizona, the group that begins with the letter "A", etc.

Plus, I think it's too late.

[Mikey340]

Some new pics for ya!
Enjoy
Mike
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f161/Mikey340/IM G_3471.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f161/Mikey340/IM G_3470.jpg
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[wango-z-tango]

Italian beef & sausage FTW ! Mikey, I have a BOM, but your YJ is so enticing. What a great color YJ is on a GTO. And look at those wheels ...

[Mikey340]

haha thats right out in front of where I work!
Thankyou YJ is what sold me on this car!
Can't wait to wear down these 275's so I can go bigger in the back
Mike

[camaronx]

Cam, we can't "tell" you where to get the Drift-R's on this site because they are not sponsors. But you can easily find it out on Google and/or eBay. Start to dig in, man, with Google searches like "ROH USA", Arizona, the group that begins with the letter "A", etc.

Plus, I think it's too late.

Not only can u not tell me because they r not a sponsor--one usually has to pay a price penalty also--tihs weekend alone i purchased k&n filter pacesetter lt's catless mids, db's, andsafety loop i dunno for sure if they were all sponsors on this site as i frequent other lsx forums as well but i can tell ya that the sponsors on this site all had my prices beat---it really pi$$ed me off but on a good note i did jam on "great white buffalo" on my new kicker 12's i installed this weekend---found the roh 19x 10's no prob but major price jump from 18 to 19 i think the 18 x 10 wheel/tire combo and 18 x 9 fronts would be $1000-$1200 less then the 19x 9 19 x 10 wheel/tire combo

[camaronx]

Not only can u not tell me because they r not a sponsor--one usually has to pay a price penalty also--tihs weekend alone i purchased k&n filter pacesetter lt's catless mids, db's, andsafety loop i dunno for sure if they were all sponsors on this site as i frequent other lsx forums as well but i can tell ya that the sponsors on this site all had my prices beat---it really pi$$ed me off but on a good note i did jam on "great white buffalo" on my new kicker 12's i installed this weekend---found the roh 19x 10's no prob but major price jump from 18 to 19 i think the 18 x 10 wheel/tire combo and 18 x 9 fronts would be $1000-$1200 less then the 19x 9 19 x 10 wheel/tire combo

I can tell you bout wher i got my parts because they r sponsors--got my d.b's and loop from bmr--they r cheaper at lmperformance--both sponsors and i think the catless mids were cheaper at lmperformance also--but i don't wanna hijack thread lets get some roh sponsors!

[wango-z-tango]

Cam, this is a touchy subject here. We had one of our first-tier sponsors try to resurrect the ROH Drift R, 100-odd ppl ordered sets, and the project was bailed on in .AU. Few existing sets remained. The posters in this thread got 'em. So we don't want to hurt the feelings of people who worked hard, and are sponsors, to get us these wheels. It's a family sensibility thing, we look after family on this board. Plus, I think there may be only 2 complete sets left in the world to buy, if that.

[camaronx]

Cam, this is a touchy subject here. We had one of our first-tier sponsors try to resurrect the ROH Drift R, 100-odd ppl ordered sets, and the project was bailed on in .AU. Few existing sets remained. The posters in this thread got 'em. So we don't want to hurt the feelings of people who worked hard, and are sponsors, to get us these wheels. It's a family sensibility thing, we look after family on this board. Plus, I think there may be only 2 complete sets left in the world to buy, if that.


Ya you r right wango these sponsors bend over backwards to help us that is why i was so pleased to find out my recent orders were all with board sponsors some that i have been dealing with for over a decade,(BMR)--they all know what we want and if they could get them i'm sure they would--i'm running factory rims right now and if u see new wheels/tires on my car aftermarket-it;l be from one of the sponsors

[zero]

haekks

[wango-z-tango]

Drift-R's are a cast one piece, relatively light, but have a certain "look". Good luck Zero, choose carefully and enjoy.

[zero]

hekan

[wango-z-tango]

Some of us poor people with plastic-spoons-in-mouth are rather proud of these rims, Zero ;-) If you wanna see cracks in cast and sintered aluminum parts, man, you need to start doing business with the Italians !

[wango-z-tango]

I like the fact.. or rather rumor.. that they are designed for the GTO.. i read somewhere where they are hub centric out of the box.

They are, in fact, hub centric out of the box. Make sure to pick up McGard spline drive nuts to protect your investment. You're already in the g-note or two, the extra hun won't kill you.

[zero]

hunm

[Manny74]

Please pm me with all the info I need for that set up. Your car looks awesome.

I would like to get that info too please. you guys got the bug on me after seeing your cars. so now I want some wheels..


thanks