Rex Grossman

[Chi-Town Goat]

This is the second season I have posted a thread about this POS. I cannot believe Chicago has put up with him for as long as we have. The guy has to be the most inconsistent QB EVER! The boy can't scramble, has zero speed and lobs the ball so often my 6 year old son could get an interception or two from him.

Is it just me or does it seem like he has gorilla glue on the bottom of his shoes? Is it just me or does it seem like he is always high on laughing gas with his facial expressions?

The Bears barely beat KC yesterday! Take away Hester from the team and it coulda been a loss!

Anybody else think we should at least try Griese?

[J.E.T.]

Nope.........not his fault when the line doesn't protect him. Show me any other QB who took their team to the SB in their second season. It's a team sport...........not individual.

JET

[Chi-Town Goat]

Nope.........not his fault when the line doesn't protect him. Show me any other QB who took their team to the SB in their second season. It's a team sport...........not individual.

JET

You think grossman took the bears to the superbowl last year?

[lisag719]

Nope.........not his fault when the line doesn't protect him. Show me any other QB who took their team to the SB in their second season. It's a team sport...........not individual.

JET

QFT.

I say stick with him. He is a young'un. We will get to the SB again this year by using him.


my .02

[Chi-Town Goat]

QFT.

I say stick with him. He is a young'un. We will get to the SB again this year by using him.


my .02

We may not make the playoffs with him IMO.

[lisag719]

We may not make the playoffs with him IMO.


We will. I have faith. Especially if Hester keeps running like the freak he is.

[goatboy2006]

griese has looked better every time he is out there grossman sucks my .02$.

[Deb4]

FACT: Bears would have actually won the Superbowl if Griese was put in. But, for whatever retarded reason, they didn't even give him a chance. LAME!!

[rockyrambo]

I don't know who got you there last year, but Gould lost it for you. As far as Grossman goes, he should hand off every chance he gets. His mobility reminds me of Bledsoe, and I think Rex is a couple of sandwiches short of a picnic. He's got a decent ensemble around him, but he's a bit short on leadership and quick decison making.

[barkingspud]

Let's get retarded!!!

[Chi-Town Goat]

I don't know who got you there last year, but Gould lost it for you. As far as Grossman goes, he should hand off every chance he gets. His mobility reminds me of Bledsoe, and I think Rex is a couple of sandwiches short of a picnic. He's got a decent ensemble around him, but he's a bit short on leadership and quick decison making.

X Infinity!

[holler]

Man, I just don't understand all the negativity... he frick'in took us to the superbowl last year with some clutch passing. lest we all forget?

And that's the difference, he has clutch potential which Greise does not have.

yeah, he has been a little inconsistent, but when receivers drop balls and don't run their routes its a little hard to blame rex fully. I think our WHOLE offense needs to step it up a little bit, Rex is not the scape "goat" here. That includes our O-line, which is starting to look very average.

Greise is a great backup, but he is a backup. He is an insurance policy, not a long term solution. If you think his mobility is any better then rex you have to be joking. Career wise he is just as int prone if not more so then rex. Orton is still a work in progress, but he does have potential. I just don't think he has had enough practice with the 1st team to have any benefit to start right now.

[Dbluegoat]

lets not forget it was basically his first FULL season last year......god damn give him some more time

[juice12ufo]

You think grossman took the bears to the superbowl last year?

OMG, thank you. We went to the superbowl in SPITE of Rex, not BECAUSE of Rex. He is dumb as a bag of hair, and will never amount to being a quality QB.

[Chi-Town Goat]

Man, I just don't understand all the negativity... he frick'in took us to the superbowl last year with some clutch passing. lest we all forget?

yeah, he has been a little inconsistent, but when receivers drop balls and don't run their routes its a little hard to blame rex fully. I think our WHOLE offense needs to step it up a little bit, Rex is not the scape "goat" here. That includes our O-line, which is starting to look very average.

Greise is a great backup, but he is a backup. If you think his mobility is any better then rex you have to be joking. Career wise he is just as int prone if not more so then rex. Orton is still a work in progress, but he does have potential. I just don't think he has had enough practice with the 1st team to have any benefit to start right now.

His QB rating is in the 50's and he has 3 interceptions so far this year with 1 TD. Last year he had 20 interceptions! A good QB needs to have leadership and confidence which are two things Rex does not have. Look at a good QB like Peyton Manning...9 intereceptions last year and 31 TD's! Why can't the bears find a QB like him? We have not had a good QB in a very long time. Jim McMahon was the last one we had and overall he wasn't anything really special.

[Chi-Town Goat]

lets not forget it was basically his first FULL season last year......god damn give him some more time

When Rex's contract is up he will never start ANYWHERE again. Anybody disagree with that?

[ZigZag]

You think grossman took the bears to the superbowl last year?

I've got to agree , they went to the Superbowl in spite of him. Very lackluster performances by him. They've got enough talent on that team to do the job but they need a better leader.

I think Lovey is now stuck with the fact that he stuck up for him when times were tuff last year and now is more hesitant to make a change which will show that he has given up on him.

[holler]

His QB rating is in the 50's and he has 3 interceptions so far this year with 1 TD. Last year he had 20 interceptions! A good QB needs to have leadership and confidence which are two things Rex does not have. Look at a good QB like Peyton Manning...9 intereceptions last year and 31 TD's! Why can't the bears find a QB like him? We have not had a good QB in a very long time. Jim McMahon was the last one we had and overall he wasn't anything really special.

It took Peyton Manning 9 years to get to the superbowl. his rookie year he threw 28 ints to 26 tds with a pedestrian 71 QB rating.

Did Indy give up on him?

No, becuase they knew he was a work in progress and young.

Will Rex be Peyton Manning? No, and he doesn't have to be because the bears are not a passing team. Their foundation has always been a strong running game and defense.

Consistency will come with Rex. Everyone just needs to chill and be patient.

[Chi-Town Goat]

Everyone just needs to chill and be patient.


I will when I see Griese out there...gimme the griese!

[Hawkgfr]

greasy is a no arm loser...Grossman has a cannon and has had two career threatening injuries....

as long as the bears win he should be the man...greasy will always be a an average backup...

[BIGGIE.azGTO]

greasy is a no arm loser...Grossman has a cannon and has had two career threatening injuries....

as long as the bears win he should be the man...greasy will always be a an average backup...

I agree with the fact that Grossman does have a cannon!
If we can lock in a passing game there no reason the bears cannot go to the superbowl :)

[brgriffi]

Grossman's now 32nd in the league in QB rating. He had an ok half to start the game yesterday and then regressed right back into "bad rex" for the second half. His two interceptions were entirely his fault as he just locked onto the receivers and tried to force the play. The only play of his that really impressed me was when he avoided that sack/ strip and got it to Berrian for 20 yards or so.

I'm about ready to see Kyle Orton come in. In his REAL rookie season (Grossman wasn't a rookie, or virtual rookie, or any other BS last year), Orton put up decent numbers with Justin Gage as his #2 WR and Moose leading the league in dropped passes. He was on the higher side of rookie QB ratings.

[1969 SS]

Show me any other QB who took their team to the SB in their second season.

Brady did it

lets not forget it was basically his first FULL season last year......god damn give him some more time

oops, I was wrong in my first statement because it wasn't Brady's first "full" season so I guess it doesn't count:turbonaug

to get back on subject of this thread though. Grossman sucks and the D can't be expected to carry the load all season, if you don't get a better QB. any second rate QB could make the Bears better than they are with Grossman

[sxty8goats]

As far as Grossman goes, he should hand off every chance he gets. His mobility reminds me of Bledsoe, and I think Rex is a couple of sandwiches short of a picnic. He's got a decent ensemble around him, but he's a bit short on leadership and quick decison making.

QFT.

As a Pat's fan I used to praise Bledsoe all day long. He always seemed to have the potential to take them all the way. And he always fell a bit short. I do think that he might have done it had he not almost died. Before getting hit almost killed him, his mobility was not as much of an issue. He would stand solid and let the team protect him. Didn't get shook when someone got though. He could hold on to the ball until the last minute if he needed to get the open man and still make the throw. After he got put in the hospital, he lost that self confidence.

Wrex is just as anchored on the field but doesn't have the skill Drew had. His lack of talent is being hidden by a good team. So, being a Pats fan. I say keep Grossman in. (And do a better job of hiding your defensive calls, we gona steal'm)

[rockyrambo]

QFT.

As a Pat's fan I used to praise Bledsoe all day long. He would stand solid and let the team protect him. Didn't get shook when someone got though. He could hold on to the ball until the last minute if he needed to get the open man and still make the throw.
Wrex is just as anchored on the field but doesn't have the skill Drew had.

I think that's kind of my point. Bledsoe had good field vision, a good O-line, but he didn't have the ability to scramble (and face it - I bet half the people on this board could catch him if he did). Grossman has a strong arm, but just doesn't yet posses the skills to make those split second, critical decisions. Hopefully it will come with time. People used to say he was like Ali, because he had the feet of Clay.
But if he hadn't had his bell rung, we wouldn't be talking about Tom Brady these days........

[ChrisMcGTO04]

I hate to say this...but it isn't all Grossman's fault. The offensive system and play calling of Ron Turner is the pits too. They guy stunk it up at Illinois and whammo he's back in the NFL....

[BIGGIE.azGTO]

^^^^ Yea but if we had a Quality QB that people respected and could make plays happen then the line would not need to protect him for 5 min just to throw the ball away almost every time. I am a bears fan, but if Chi town does not figure out the QB issue quick the D- is going to get tired of carrying the team. And it does not help loosing MIKE BROWN for the YEAR AGAIN

[Jo jo]

He is a crappy QB with a great team. So, it makes him look decent. Our defense is ridiculous and our special teams, so we would be unstoppable with a decent offense. However, rex just brings the offense down. Seriously, he has like no presence in the pocket. He makes the worst decisions and is so damn slow, that when he does scramble he gets sacked for a 10 yard lose. The bears could easily be a dynasty with a decent QB, not even a good one.

[Jo jo]

It took Peyton Manning 9 years to get to the superbowl. his rookie year he threw 28 ints to 26 tds with a pedestrian 71 QB rating.

Did Indy give up on him?

No, becuase they knew he was a work in progress and young.

Will Rex be Peyton Manning? No, and he doesn't have to be because the bears are not a passing team. Their foundation has always been a strong running game and defense.

Consistency will come with Rex. Everyone just needs to chill and be patient.

Peyton didn't have the kind of team Rex has. The Colts have been pretty awful until recently. You put peyton on the Bears and they would easily get to a superbowl. Probably win by a lot to. Peyton just knows how to win games and to help out the D. Rex doesn't even know how to wipe his own ass.

[BIGGIE.azGTO]

I here Jake Plummer is looking for a Job!

[Krazy]

As a long time Bears fan living in Milwaukee my whole life, I need to set some of you fools straight:

QFT.

I say stick with him. He is a young'un. We will get to the SB again this year by using him.


my .02

He's 27 years old. He's not young, he's not old- he should be peaking right now. I don't even want to hear about this is only his 2nd full season also. Quit making excuses for him.

I don't know who got you there last year, but Gould lost it for you. As far as Grossman goes, he should hand off every chance he gets. His mobility reminds me of Bledsoe, and I think Rex is a couple of sandwiches short of a picnic. He's got a decent ensemble around him, but he's a bit short on leadership and quick decison making.

WTF did Robbie Gould do that cost the Bears the Vince Lombardi trophy? Grossman had a hard time hanging onto a wet football and throwin to the guys in the darker jerseys in Miami.

OMG, thank you. We went to the superbowl in SPITE of Rex, not BECAUSE of Rex. He is dumb as a bag of hair, and will never amount to being a quality QB.


Thank you. Grossman had bigger plans on New Years than play against the Packers- then after playing his worst game of the season (remember Lovie's 1st priority as a coach- beat the Packers?) he looked like a doosh saying the media was at fault for his own comments. Nuff said about his "intelligence". Then earlier in TC he threw Wade Wilson under the bus for not working on "basic fundamentals" (aka taking a snap, stepping up in the pocket, etc.)

It took Peyton Manning 9 years to get to the superbowl. his rookie year he threw 28 ints to 26 tds with a pedestrian 71 QB rating.

Did Indy give up on him?

No, becuase they knew he was a work in progress and young.

Will Rex be Peyton Manning? No, and he doesn't have to be because the bears are not a passing team. Their foundation has always been a strong running game and defense.

Consistency will come with Rex. Everyone just needs to chill and be patient.

Please do not compare him to Peyton Manning (Manning's rookie year or any other year), Brett Favre, etc. If the Bears win the Super Bowl, he'll have more in common with Trent Dilfer than any of those HOF QB's.

As for patience, google "Philadelphia" "Eagles" "Donovan McNabb". It's the NFL, not the NBA- you have to win when you get a chance, superstars alone don't get you a super bowl title.

greasy is a no arm loser...Grossman has a cannon and has had two career threatening injuries....

as long as the bears win he should be the man...greasy will always be a an average backup...


Rex has a "cannon"? Uhmm, no- it's not bad, it's not good, it's average. Not sure where you get this cannon BS from.


I hate to say this...but it isn't all Grossman's fault. The offensive system and play calling of Ron Turner is the pits too. They guy stunk it up at Illinois and whammo he's back in the NFL....


Who doesn't stink it up for Illinois? Turner's first stint as the Bear's OC set offensive records that are still to be broke. Grossman's going to cost people there jobs if he doesn't improve.


He doesn't have any excuses anymore, especially since this is his contract year.

He folds under defensive pressure, and can usually play well in situations where the defenders can't get to him and he doesn't have to step into his throws.

Here is a google of "Rex Grossman Video"

http://video.google.com/videosearch?sourceid=navcl ient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GFRD_enUS232US232&q=rex+grossman&um=1&sa=N&tab=wv

Again, from a long time Bears fan living in Milwaukee- I don't root against him, but the team has to take advantage of a good situation in the NFL these days. A moron QB can be the difference maker and it's time for him to step up or STFU- no more excuses comong out of his mouth or anyone elses. :-off the

[Lorider680]

Give the kid time....be patient.....blah blah blah. Just cause he has a cannon of an arm doesn't mean he is any good.(think Jeff George) Sorry but letting Thomas Jones leave and keeping faith in Grossman are not good ideas. FacE! it, The bears have had QB problems since they won it. I will take Jim Miller instead of Grossman.
Chuch!

[sleepygoat]

grossman did not take the bears to the superbowl, the bears defense did

[1969 SS]

grossman did not take the bears to the superbowl, the bears defense did

don't see how anybody could see it any other way....but they do

[LS2BlueGoat]

This is the second season I have posted a thread about this POS. I cannot believe Chicago has put up with him for as long as we have. The guy has to be the most inconsistent QB EVER! The boy can't scramble, has zero speed and lobs the ball so often my 6 year old son could get an interception or two from him.

Is it just me or does it seem like he has gorilla glue on the bottom of his shoes? Is it just me or does it seem like he is always high on laughing gas with his facial expressions?

The Bears barely beat KC yesterday! Take away Hester from the team and it coulda been a loss!

Anybody else think we should at least try Griese?

I will say this without reading this whole thread (sorry if someone has already said it I am too lazy right now to read. lol) Grossman has for sure not been the a very constant QB this season and we all know that he was not consistent at all last year. For me personally I look at it this way, last year was really his rookie season! I mean he spent what the first 2 years hurt never really got a chance to play a full season. I really believe that nobody can deny that when Rex is on the game he is really on, he has a great arm and knows how to read the field and get the ball in the numbers. Do I think that he is the next great superstar QB.... ehh I doubt it but he can be a great Franchise QB that along with a solid unit around him can do some great things. I also think that a lot of his trouble is in his height, he is pretty short and I think he has trouble seeing over the line. As far as him being fast and a good scrambling QB that is just not his style. Truth be told a football team does not have to have a QB that can run his azz off and gain more yards than the HB in a single game to be up with the best in the league. Nothing wrong with being a pocket QB, can still be very successful.

Now if you read a lot of my threads concerning the bears you will find that I have been very supportive of him and the decision of Smith to stay with him up to this point. I do find myself a little less patient already this year and am expecting great things from him.. When I do get that way I look at last year, they made it as a team to the show. I have been keeping tabs on Griese and yes I think that he is just waiting and looks pretty darn good if Grossman does not bring it. I will say this, if you look back through the years, hell even most of the 90's, the bears never stuck with or went out and invested in a superstar QB. Even good ole #9 was a one season wonder really, and I think that Smith's decision to put faith in a guy who has shown he can git r done is part of the Bears over all success the last few seasons..

Nope.........not his fault when the line doesn't protect him. Show me any other QB who took their team to the SB in their second season. It's a team sport...........not individual.

JET

This year he can't seem to get any protection from the corners I will say that for sure, both with the Chargers and with the chiefs he was blindsided and hurried a lot.

[1969 SS]

I will say this without reading this whole thread (sorry if someone has already said it I am too lazy right now to read. lol) obviously you didn't read any of this thread at all because, what you said and more HAS all, already been stated

[LS2BlueGoat]

obviously you didn't read any of this thread at all because, what you said and more HAS all, already been stated


uhh that would be why I said that, it was 2:00 in the morning saw the thread for the first time did not want to read it at that moment but wanted to add my thoughts. Even if I had read it I still probably would have made my points just to add to what may be an accurate picture.

[11 Bravo]

Rex has a "cannon"?

lmao

[sxty8goats]

This year he can't seem to get any protection from the corners I will say that for sure, both with the Chargers and with the chiefs he was blindsided and hurried a lot.

Well if you watched them last year you may have noticed that he seemed to be a Ok QB with potential last year until Arizona figured out that he is a stump that can't think under pressure. They started pushing up the middle and getting on him every play. He fell to pieces. He can't rethink a play under pressure. On the snap he thinks, "I'm throwing this here (x)" and he does, no mater who is standing there. Once other teams realized this, they started focusing pressure on him over covering the rest of the offense. It works great. The guy is a disaster. Keep him in. If he is replaced by a half decent QB the Bears will be a challenger for the SB race. I'm a Pats fan. :D

[Chi-Town Goat]

Grossman sucks....but the good news is after yesterdays brilliant performance the coaches are finally talking about benching the loser.

I really hope they decide on Griese and not Orton...

[BIGGIE.azGTO]

^^^^ + 1 , Grossman has to go if the Bears want a winning season

[hellmonkey]

shiet balls. i was behind him yesterday for a while. things were looking really good after that 10 yrd run and the TD. but no. he had to go and rape himself. im not so happy about this season anymore. its scary. hey, atleast the cubs look like they are going to the post season.

[GTONick]

Grossman sucks....but the good news is after yesterdays brilliant performance the coaches are finally talking about benching the loser.

I really hope they decide on Griese and not Orton...

Good to hear that. I was all for sticking w/ Grossman last season, but when that douche not only failed to step up and make plays, but started throwing interceptions and fumbling the ball, essentially scoring for the opponents in the playoffs/superbowl that's it. No more. Cut your losses, put in Griese, and start scouting for a new franchise quarterback. This team has all the components to be unstoppable except for the quarterback. Unfortunately he's the one that's touching the ball every play.

And if they're considering Orton, they might as well leave Grossman in. Orton looked alright in preseason, but he's worse under pressure than Grossman.

[Red Bearded Goat]

Wow, that was a tough Sunday night game to watch....
Defying the laws of physics, Grossman sucks and blows at the same time!

[BIGGIE.azGTO]

IMO they need a new Qb STAT, The D is not going to a powerhouse like it is now forever, I just hope they dont blow there chances at a ring because they are busy being to chicken shit can Rex!

[2XS]

IMO they need a new Qb STAT, The D is not going to a powerhouse like it is now forever, I just hope they dont blow there chances at a ring because they are busy being to chicken shit can Rex!

Hate to quote Madden, but who would they replace Rex with? 10 year journeyman Griese? Even more incompetent Orton? Unfortunately for you Bears fans, Rex IS your future...and yer present.

[Midnight]

Nah, gimme the Griese as a short-term solution. And we'll take D-Mac gets out of Philly. Hell, at this point, we'll take Kerry Collins from the Titans and be better off.

[Palmer]

I was really surprised that they didn't make a move for Leftwich and let him end up in Atlanta. He's not the second coming of Marino, but he's damned sure better than the 3 QBs in Chicago.

[Krazy]

Hate to quote Madden, but who would they replace Rex with? 10 year journeyman Griese? Even more incompetent Orton? Unfortunately for you Bears fans, Rex IS your future...and yer present.

Yes- replace him with Griese. Why in the hell did they give him a 5 year contract if they're just going to let him sit on the sideline watching a younger doosh throw into the other teams arms and let the ball slip threw his fingers game after game. On top of that Grossman has to be a mental wreck right now that's probably not going to get fixed until he goes to another city, if ever.

Is Griese a better solution than Rex? Not sure but it's time to find out. He's going to get people fired and indirectly cause injuries to the defensive players (which is already starting to happen) from them getting off the field and immediately going back on.

BTW, he's not the future of the Bears. Luckily for us Bears fans his contract is up after this season :D

[Napoleon_Tanerite]

They didn't run Griese out of Denver and then Miami because he was a good qb....

[2XS]

They didn't run Griese out of Denver and then Miami because he was a good qb....

You forgot Tampa too.

[1969 SS]

Wow, that was a tough Sunday night game to watch....
Defying the laws of physics, Grossman sucks and blows at the same time!
LOL!!

[Krazy]

^^^ They're not running Grossman out of Chicago because he's an average QB either. He's the main reason (not the only one) why they suck right now. It's time for a change and the last I checked Griese is #2 on the depth chart, Joe Montana and John Elway are both retired (and old), and their respective teams aren't shopping Brady, Palmer, P. Manning, etc. :)

[Shocker]

Bears should have signed leftwitch when he was on the market...

All the Bears QB's make me wanna cry.

[nzarnow]

All of this talk about Rex doesn't mean shit now that the entire defense is hurt. If those injuries, or even some of them, come back as serious, the season is over. You can't lose Mike Brown, Dusty, Briggs, Vasher, Tommie Harris, Ogeunleye, and Ruben Brown and think you can still win. As a die hard Bears fan, I hate to say this: but it might be better to suck this season, get a good quarterback in the draft (even though there are not many) and recover all those injuries. I don't care how good the defense is, but if you can't score on offense then you wont win anything.

The best offense is....offense, not defense. Score every time you have the ball like *shudder* the pats, and you don't need the best defense there is. Sure, an amazing defense is hard to watch, but I would much rather have an explosive offense (WHICH WE HAVE MINUS ONE PLAYER) and a mediocre defense.

[Parapdrapa]

WTB Brian Brohm (sp?)

[nzarnow]

WTB Brian Brohm (sp?)

Possibly, but he is rated pretty high up on the draft board. I mean, I want to get a good draft pick, but the main way to do that is not something I want...

[Krazy]

Looks like the Bears are going to make it official tomorrow. Who knows if Griese is going to be better, but it's time for a change at the QB position. From ESPN.com:

Report: Griese to start Sunday against Lions
ESPN.com news services

Updated: September 25, 2007, 5:50 PM ET
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Rex Grossman's latest meltdown reportedly will have him standing on the sidelines this week.



The Chicago Tribune, citing an anonymous source, reported on its Web site that backup Brian Griese will replace Grossman as the starting quarterback when the Bears face the Lions.

Chicago returns to practice on Wednesday to prepare for Sunday's game at Detroit.

Grossman threw three interceptions as the Chicago Bears fell to the Dallas Cowboys 34-10 on Sunday night.

Grossman ranks 23rd in the league with 500 yards, has a 45.2 rating and is 47-of-89 (52.8 percent) with a league-leading six interceptions and just one touchdown.

A Pro Bowl pick with Denver in 2000, Griese has passed for 16,564 yards, but has also been released three times -- by the Broncos, Miami and Tampa Bay.

Information from The Associated Press was used in this report



Also, Tommie Harris may miss up to a month with a knee sprain :cry:

[2XS]

Had to happen. That's it for mr. Grossman. Hey, maybe you guys can trade for Leinart. #1 pick for a #1.

[Krazy]

I doubt AZ is giving up on Leinart any time soon.

On a side note, Rexxy-Roo will make a fine clipboard holder for another team next year :D

[2XS]

I doubt AZ is giving up on Leinart any time soon.

On a side note, Rexxy-Roo will make a fine clipboard holder for another team next year :D

But they got Kurt "ageless wonder" Warner. :rolleyes:

[LS2BlueGoat]

Looks like the Bears are going to make it official tomorrow. Who knows if Griese is going to be better, but it's time for a change at the QB position. From ESPN.com:




Also, Tommie Harris may miss up to a month with a knee sprain :cry:

As much as I have been supportive of Rex and still think that at some point could still be a damn good QB I hope that this is true. Griese is ready and I think he can get the job done. Since the Defense is banged up we MUST MUST be able to put up big points on the board and carry them until they are healthy again. I hate to see them go back into this mode of a different QB each year because we all have seen how successful that was :rolleyes: but enough is enough.

[PeleProdigyGTO]

Good luck with Griese, he played for us in Denver for a while. I hated that guy, just as a player obviously. I wouldn't pin much hope on him.

[1969 SS]

their offense just improved immensely. people can't expect instant miracles though. it is going to take a couple/few games to adjust

if he comes out like gangbusters this week, people have to realize that he still can fall back the next week though. can't praise him until he proves himself over the longhaul as Grossman has disproved himself over the long haul

[Buckys girl]

Rexie will be riding the pines this Sunday. They will be starting Griese against the Lions. According to RR sports news.

[Napoleon_Tanerite]

not expecting a major turn around... Griese is a DIFFERENT quarterback, not a better one.

[Midnight]

not expecting a major turn around... Griese is a DIFFERENT quarterback, not a better one.

Could Griese be any worse?










Ummm.... nope!

[Krazy]

^^^ What he said. We aren't looking for a savior. Just someone who doesn't fook chit up game after game.

[BIGGIE.azGTO]

^^^ + 1 :judge: