Official College football Thread

[BIGGIE.azGTO]

I love the NFl but I also an a college football nut! Just thought I would thow this out there and see if anyone bites.

Any college football fans? Just wondering. If so feel free to throw anything out there.

USC game was pritty fun to watch IMO
LSU looked good, and what hell is up with the IRISH?

[Cal Goat]

I'm interested to see how USC fares against more of their ranked opponents. Specifically Cal and UCLA. If they can go undefeated, I'd like to see them and LSU in the championship game.

But, I always cheer for Cal too. I'd like to see them upset USC and take a shot at the national title.

Nebraska, the only non-west coast team I really care about looks a little impotent. Even if they win the rest of their games, I doubt they'd be able to handle Oklahoma in the Big 12 championship this year.

And finally, my alma mater, San Jose State... well... let's just hope they can score one more touchdown before the end of the season...:cry:

[BIGGIE.azGTO]

I agree, I think UCLA or CAL upset USC.

Yea SJ state is not looking to sharp, but the season is still early.

[JTSnooks]

Georgia Tech fan here (tough game last week, looks like we suck for now).

Also an Anti-USC and Anti-UGA fan.

Otherwise I'm fairly open.

[BIGGIE.azGTO]

Yea, I think the reason I dont care for USC is because they seam to be the ultimate
"me too team" People seam to jump on the USC ban-wagon like no other. Reminds me of when the Yankees win the word series. I never saw so many frigg'n Yakees hats in az in my life! USC seams the same way. This weekend my wife was at the mall and was trying to pick up a ILL. hat for me. (they had none) yet rows and rows of USC stuff. Oh well, Im not taking anything away from them.

[GTO JUDGE]

I follow college football. I'd rather watch a good college game than pro any day. I no longer follow PRO ball....

I have been a long time Irish Fan.. unrealized goal was to play for them... I do follow all of the teams though.

USC will be hard to beat, but I am liking Oklahoma, don't dismiss Florida they picked up where they left off from last year. Last year they showed USC is beatable. LSU is looking strong.... and even though they started off bad... Michigan should end up back in the top 15. Of course with upsets this year, all bets are off.

Appalachian State? What are they eating? They could knock off some GOOD I-A teams.

[Coupe427]

I went to Auburn and absolutely love college football. I am very disappointed in the way the tigers have played so far. I realize the offense is extremely young but still. Hopefully they can pull together and accomplish something this year.

That being said I have lived in Baton Rouge for the last 6 years and despite my disliking for LSU through my college years I have grown quite the liking for them. Mostly due to gf's forcing me to go tailgating and to the games.(ok they didnt have to push hard) I still dont think there is a stadium that gets as loud and energetic as Death Valley especially if the game is played at night. LSU looks great this year and I would love nothing more than to see them play USC. It would be the only way to settle the debate of whether USC is really worth the hype. IMO

Oh yeah Florida looks great too.

[Midnight]

Fluck Forida....

This definitely NOT the year to be in Big 11 country, but Ohio State has been efficient, if not impressive.

[Coupe427]

Fluck Forida....

This definitely NOT the year to be in Big 11 country, but Ohio State has been efficient, if not impressive.

noticed your location and laughed, this ones for you:stickpoke

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[Midnight]

noticed your location and laughed, this ones for you:stickpoke

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http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc170/tsherick/ SHUTUP-dedcat.gif

[BIGGIE.azGTO]

I follow college football. I'd rather watch a good college game than pro any day. I no longer follow PRO ball....

I have been a long time Irish Fan.. unrealized goal was to play for them... I do follow all of the teams though.

USC will be hard to beat, but I am liking Oklahoma, don't dismiss Florida they picked up where they left off from last year. Last year they showed USC is beatable. LSU is looking strong.... and even though they started off bad... Michigan should end up back in the top 15. Of course with upsets this year, all bets are off.

Appalachian State? What are they eating? They could knock off some GOOD I-A teams.

+ 1 Man those guys are on fire. Everyone said when they beat mich it was luck, and now they are still kicking ass and taking names. :)

[Cal Goat]

[B]
I have been a long time Irish Fan..

You have my condolences.

But seriously, what's the issue this year? It seems like you can't put much of the blame on recruiting, because, come on, it's Notre Dame.

And Charlie Wies can't be THAT bad of a coach either.

[Napoleon_Tanerite]

Die hard Canes fan, even during painful-to-watch rebuilding years

though the Miami definition of a rebuilding year (7-6 last year, 2-1 start to this year) seems to be a bit better than most other school's definition (usually involving "small number-big number")

[Octomonkey]

I enjoyed following the Montana St. score this weekend. 61 points, all in three quarters, was pretty impressive.

[grifferjr]

I have to agree with the fact that there is just something special about the college game, both football and basketball for that matter. I would much rather watch a college football game on Thursday night, or saturday day/night versus any pro game that there is, including the Super Bowl. I think I can sum everything I feel about the college game into one word: Loyalty.

In the pro game, the only people loyal to a team are the fans, in college,the fans, players and coaches are loyal to the sometimes bitter end (see Irish fans this year and of course this excludes Nick Saban!!!)

If any player in the NFL tries to talk about their loyalty to this team or that team, I say B.S. cause in the end, as much as I love my Bengals and Ocho Cinco, the fact of the matter remains the same....if the hated Brownies were to cut Chad a bigger check, then good ole Ocho Cinco would be out of here!!!!

On that note I have to say that I am a Buckeye fan but I have a soft spot in my heart for the Mid-Major conferences. I went to Ohio University and I love the MAC, and other teams like Boise State and Utah, Southern Florida, and the list goes on and on.

One final note: for those of you out west......DONT SLEEP ON THE UNIVERSITY of CINCINNATI BEARCATS!!!!! People around the area are saying that the new coaching staff is poised to make this program the next Louisville as they are very similar in demographics. If UC can keep some talent local versus losing them to OSU then they could start knocking on the BCS proverbial doorstep.

[BIGGIE.azGTO]

^^^^^ I'm not taking anything away from the NFL, I do have the NFL football package and watch all the games, but the college players play with a hunger you just dont see in the NFL. IMO

[grifferjr]

You have my condolences.

But seriously, what's the issue this year? It seems like you can't put much of the blame on recruiting, because, come on, it's Notre Dame.

And Charlie Wies can't be THAT bad of a coach either.

Actually recruiting is the main problem at Notre Dame. Yeah its a great school with a great athletic history, but thats the problem.....it IS a great SCHOOL and WAS a great athletic institution.

The days of the true academic student athlete are gone, and without pi$$ing any athletes off on this forum, lets be honest, the collegiate athlete (mainly the major sports..aka football and basketball) has become dumber and dumber as the years go on and today the big college programs (my beloved OSU included) are merely stepping stones on the way to the NFL/NBA. Kids are groomed from early on in high school how to be a pro athlete.

Notre Dame still has very high recruiting standards. Their athletes have to meet higher SAT/ACT scores than most other university's, thus Charlie will miss out on a lot of recruits that will end up in other schools.

Its no secret that there is a reason why the IVY leagues who once used to dominate collegiate athletics no longer can even come close to competing in the major sports.

I for one, give credit to Notre Dame for being able to hang on as long as they have.

[USCGTO]

Got into the football craze, while i completed my masters at SC.

Yeah UCLA sucks. They're lucky last time.

One of my cars reads USC, (Not the GTO)

Oh and did I tell you UCLA sucks.

[jbls1gto]

I follow college football. I'd rather watch a good college game than pro any day. I no longer follow PRO ball....

I have been a long time Irish Fan.. unrealized goal was to play for them... I do follow all of the teams though.

USC will be hard to beat, but I am liking Oklahoma, don't dismiss Florida they picked up where they left off from last year. Last year they showed USC is beatable. LSU is looking strong.... and even though they started off bad... Michigan should end up back in the top 15. Of course with upsets this year, all bets are off.

Appalachian State? What are they eating? They could knock off some GOOD I-A teams.

App State has put themselves on the map. Good for them....that's coming from a Michigan grad too. :)

I can't wait for the Michigan/Penn State game this weekend. This will tell the tale for Michigan for the rest of the season...it will be a good test for their 'rebound' or lack thereof.

[BIGGIE.azGTO]

App State has put themselves on the map. Good for them....that's coming from a Michigan grad too. :)

I can't wait for the Michigan/Penn State game this weekend. This will tell the tale for Michigan for the rest of the season...it will be a good test for their 'rebound' or lack thereof.

+ ! !!!!!! It will be an awsome game either way, but I know after all crap people have been talking crap about Michigan they want to beat Penn State Bad !

[Midnight]

I haven't gotten an answer in the other thread yet, so I'll report my question here:

Can anyone explain why Louisville's Cardinal logo has TEETH???:bomb:

[BRAZEN06GTO]

I love the College game...it's raw, pure football at its best.

Great to finally see UK beat UL and make it into the top 25!!

About time Kentucky has a decent football program.:)

[BRAZEN06GTO]

I haven't gotten an answer in the other thread yet, so I'll report my question here:

Can anyone explain why Louisville's Cardinal logo has TEETH???:bomb:


I guess because it's the Kentucky State Bird and suppose to be mean as hell!!

[Midnight]

I guess because it's the Kentucky State Bird and suppose to be mean as hell!!

It's Ohio's state bird too. But TEETH??? How in the hell are you folks on the south side of the River suppose to shake that whole "dumb hillbilly" image, when the marquee football school has a mascot like that? It is a BIRD that has TEETH!?!?!?!:bomb:

:stickpoke

Even this UK Mildkitten thinks U of L gets a
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc170/tsherick/ fail.jpg

[Cal Goat]

I haven't gotten an answer in the other thread yet, so I'll report my question here:

Can anyone explain why Louisville's Cardinal logo has TEETH???:bomb:

That bird is bad ass man! That's Lee Corso's old team!

What about that giant red blob thing? I believe it's Western Kentucky U. Now that's stupid!

[Jo jo]

Georgia Tech fan here (tough game last week, looks like we suck for now).

Also an Anti-USC and Anti-UGA fan.

Otherwise I'm fairly open.


The problem with tech is they looked really the first two games because they didn't play anybody with any football talent. They actually played a ranked team this weekend and got it handed to them. Maybe they got their head out of their ass after the game. GA is decent at best this year. They won't really do much. Maybe a crappy bowl game. FL will stomp them. Go dawgs!

[BRAZEN06GTO]

The Bird>>>>http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j244/BRAZEN06GTO/ Videos/Louisville.jpg<<<<Sucks

[Midnight]

The Bird>>>>http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j244/BRAZEN06GTO/ Videos/Louisville.jpg<<<<Sucks

Yes it does!!! :iagree: Thank you, that is all.

[mdbomgoat]

For the OSU crowd, if you're not a gator you're gator bait. Twice for you last year, right?

[GTO JUDGE]

You have my condolences.

But seriously, what's the issue this year? It seems like you can't put much of the blame on recruiting, because, come on, it's Notre Dame.

And Charlie Wies can't be THAT bad of a coach either.

Touch Down Mary has a bag on her head.

I have not found anything positive. They have good recruits, they always had a decent influx of good prospects. N.D. was always a power house running team. I am a fan of the wishbone offense. I coached 4 championship teams using it. Holtz had the last true pure pounding running offense. Bob Davie was a joke. Weiss introduced the West Coast offense. You have to tailor an offense around a QB which you have. Case in Point: ND got a QB named Ron Paulus from Berwick HS. This guy was a drop back pocket passer. He set state records in PA. Holtz got him and tried to turn him into an option QB which he wasn't. He wasted his carer at ND. Had he gone to a team like Florida State or Florida he would have been awesome... He never made it in the pros. His true talent was wasted at ND.

This is my opinion... When I played in the 70's the emphasis on conditioning was not like it is now. Weight training was more optional than mandatory like it is now. Today's athletes are bigger and faster. Sports as evolved in training and things today are vastly different than it was 30 years ago. High Schools now, many are 12 month football schools. It was not like that when I played. High Schools have mandatory weight training and team involvement 12 months a year. Even though state laws mandate schools can not practice as a team as a whole until mid August, Coaches are coaching 12 months a year.

Years ago it was the same old schools attracting the cream of the crop of HS players. The top 10 always reflected that. Now a days with an emphasis on conditioning, education and motivation, there are hoards of highly talented athletes to pull from. Teams that never made the top 50 are suddenly in the top 15 or so. Rutgers, and Louisville are just 2 examples. Top notch coaches who coached under legends are attracting those athletes, and then they have a good year or 2 and more athletes are looking their way.

As far as ND..... They have always been a fumbling team. Always giving up many ridiculous penalties at the wrong time. They are beating themselves. 23 or so sacks in 3 games is unreal. Brady Quinn was the man, as with him and the running backs, and receivers of the past few years, the new kids did not get a chance to play. They lacked play time and now they are thrown into the limelight. IMO... Weiss wanted a national championship so bad last year he sacrificed this years team for it. He had NO QB to back up Quinn and gain experience. Same with RB's and Receivers and Linemen. You have to get the younger kids play time, he failed to do it. Now ND is paying the price. Jimmy Clausen is supposed to be the next coming of Joe Montana. If he don't have a line to give him time to throw his carer there will be like Ron Paulus's was. Lack of experience offensively, defensively and special teams.... That is the coaches responsibility.

Sorry for the long post.

[Midnight]

For the OSU crowd, if you're not a gator you're gator bait. Twice for you last year, right?

Yep, and most of us own that. You've got scoreboard. :banghead:

Touch Down Mary has a bag on her head.

Do you mean Field Goal Jesus? :stickpoke

I have not found anything positive. They have good recruits, they always had a decent influx of good prospects. N.D. was always a power house running team. I am a fan of the wishbone offense. I coached 4 championship teams using it. Holtz had the last true pure pounding running offense. Bob Davie was a joke. Weiss introduced the West Coast offense. You have to tailor an offense around a QB which you have. Case in Point: ND got a QB named Ron Paulus from Berwick HS. This guy was a drop back pocket passer. He set state records in PA. Holtz got him and tried to turn him into an option QB which he wasn't. He wasted his carer at ND. Had he gone to a team like Florida State or Florida he would have been awesome... He never made it in the pros. His true talent was wasted at ND.

As good as Coach Granny Clampett was, he was the classic example of "I know my system works" (Ron Paulus is the poster child) - the better coach adapts his system to the talents of the personnel (Jim Tressel, Tyrone Willingham, Pete Carroll, Bob Stoops, et al).

This is my opinion... When I played in the 70's the emphasis on conditioning was not like it is now. Weight training was more optional than mandatory like it is now. Today's athletes are bigger and faster. Sports as evolved in training and things today are vastly different than it was 30 years ago. High Schools now, many are 12 month football schools. It was not like that when I played. High Schools have mandatory weight training and team involvement 12 months a year. Even though state laws mandate schools can not practice as a team as a whole until mid August, Coaches are coaching 12 months a year.

Hell, I played in the 80s, and we had 2 wishbone teams, 1 Dead-T team, and 7 Wing-T teams on our 10-game schedule. The Wishbone was a bitch to defend. Our offense was a hybrid of all 3, Unbalanced Power-I. We were unstoppable when we had some size, but by the time I was a senior, we were smaller and faster, and should have switched to more of a Spread philosophy. But, our coach had a system, and...

As for the year-long sports notion, it seems that there is no "having fun" allowed anymore. Everyone thinks that they have a kid that can earn a scholarship by being good at sports, and the coaches reap the benefits of better conditioned athletes. As with most things, viscious circle.

Sorry for the long post.

I'll see your long post, and raise you a long reply.

[GTO JUDGE]

Yep, and most of us own that. You've got scoreboard. :banghead:



Do you mean Field Goal Jesus? :stickpoke


As good as Coach Granny Clampett was, he was the classic example of "I know my system works" (Ron Paulus is the poster child) - the better coach adapts his system to the talents of the personnel (Jim Tressel, Tyrone Willingham, Pete Carroll, Bob Stoops, et al).



Hell, I played in the 80s, and we had 2 wishbone teams, 1 Dead-T team, and 7 Wing-T teams on our 10-game schedule. The Wishbone was a bitch to defend. Our offense was a hybrid of all 3, Unbalanced Power-I. We were unstoppable when we had some size, but by the time I was a senior, we were smaller and faster, and should have switched to more of a Spread philosophy. But, our coach had a system, and...

As for the year-long sports notion, it seems that there is no "having fun" allowed anymore. Everyone thinks that they have a kid that can earn a scholarship by being good at sports, and the coaches reap the benefits of better conditioned athletes. As with most things, viscious circle.



I'll see your long post, and raise you a long reply.

It is Touch Down Jesus actually but he blew town after the GT game. Mary is hiding under the bag.

I love the wishbone offense. You're right it is hard to defend. I tailored the wishbone for the kids to fully understand. I ran the old Texas, Nebraska, Oklahoma wishbone from the 70's. I ran 4 different offenses and they all intertwined with the wishbone. Same plays different formations. Confused the hell out of defenses. I.... power I... split back pro formation...Wishbone and then threw in a variation of run and shoot and West Coast.

I agree... There is no more having fun. It's a job for HS kids and some midget players these days. Some of these coaches think they are in the NFL. Speed kills. I'd take a fast quick team over a big team any day. First thing I told the kids was.... In a horse race, which horse wins? In a track meet, which runner wins? The fastest.

I think this is going to be an interesting year in the NCAA. Many more upsets to come.

[BIGGIE.azGTO]

I have a guy here at work that wants to bet me $200.00 bucks that UCLA will up set USC. I was like um, did you watch UCLA this weekend. I am so damn temped to jump and make a quick 2bones, but you just never know.

[USCGTO]

I have a guy here at work that wants to bet me $200.00 bucks that UCLA will up set USC. I was like um, did you watch UCLA this weekend. I am so damn temped to jump and make a quick 2bones, but you just never know.

Happenned last year. Not gonna happen again. UCLA is doomed.

[2000gtp]

I am a South Carolina fan since my fiance goes to go school there. I never liked college football until I was stationed in the south and actually paid attention to it. I have been to 2 games in William Brice in Columbia the atmosphere at college games is just great the bands and the fans. I had a great time watching spurrier walk up and down the sidelines and throwing his visor down when the gamecocks screwed something up which is pretty much every week lol. I hope they at least play half decent against Lsu south carolina isnt known for winning many big games.

[Coupe427]

I am a South Carolina fan since my fiance goes to go school there. I never liked college football until I was stationed in the south and actually paid attention to it. I have been to 2 games in William Brice in Columbia the atmosphere at college games is just great the bands and the fans. I had a great time watching spurrier walk up and down the sidelines and throwing his visor down when the gamecocks screwed something up which is pretty much every week lol. I hope they at least play half decent against Lsu south carolina isnt known for winning many big games.

yeah but theres always the Spurrier factor

[2000gtp]

That is true they would need a great game from Mitchell the QB though they dont seem to have a receiver core worth a crap this year. There running game is good and defence is alright but LSU is a dominating team this year in the games that I have seen. Mitchell has played well in the past but not this year we'll see I wont be that surprised if they get dominated this week especially in death valley.

[Coupe427]

Honestly I feel sorry for any team that steps into Tiger Stadium this year. They seem to be more pumped up this year than ever before. I cant wait for LSU Florida though. That will be a huge game.

[txbatman]

Honestly I feel sorry for any team that steps into Tiger Stadium this year. They seem to be more pumped up this year than ever before. I cant wait for LSU Florida though. That will be a huge game.

You'll appreciate this joke.

Pit-Bull Attack in Bryan, Texas

An 8 year old boy was riding his bicycle in Bryan, Texas, when he saw his friend being attacked by a large pit bulldog. The boy jumped off his bike, ran and jumped on the dog's back.

After prying the vicious animal's teeth from his young friend's body, he put the dog in a choke hold and held on until the dog was dead. The local newspaper editor happened to witness this feat and after calling for the ambulance on his cell phone, ran over to the young hero and said, "Son, that was one of the bravest things I have ever seen. You're going to make tomorrow's headlines."

It will read: Texas A&M Fan is Hero; Risks His Life; Saves Young Friend From Vicious Pit Bull Attack.

The youngster said, "That's nice, but I'm not a Texas A&M Fan"

The editor said, "OK, then it will read: University of Texas Fan Saves Young Friend's Life in Pit-Bull Attack

The young man said, "But I'm not an University of Texas fan"

The editor said, "OK, then it will read: Rice Fan Saves Friend's Life.

Once again the young man interrupted, saying, "I'm not a Rice fan, either."

The editor, becoming somewhat irritated, asked, "Then, who is your favorite team?"

The kid replied with a big smile, "LSU"

The next morning, the local newspaper headlines read:


BELOVED FAMILY PET MURDERED BY LITTLE C****SS
:wall: :D

j/k about the CA thing.

[Coupe427]

ROFL Ive heard that before but its been a while. Still makes ya chuckle.

I was glad to see Texas win the championship a couple years ago. Was born and raised in Beaumont and loved the longhorns. Still have a soft spot deep down inside.

[txbatman]

ROFL Ive heard that before but its been a while. Still makes ya chuckle.

I was glad to see Texas win the championship a couple years ago. Was born and raised in Beaumont and loved the longhorns. Still have a soft spot deep down inside.

You're a good man.:)

I posted that, then thought, I hope he's got a sense of humor about the CA thing. You know how some people around here are.....

[Coupe427]

I hope he's got a sense of humor about the CA thing.

we have enough of them around thats it hard not to. People talk about rednecks and hillbillies but have no clue what they are missing out on!

[txbatman]

we have enough of them around thats it hard not to. People talk about rednecks and hillbillies but have no clue what they are missing out on!


At least Cajuns throw a hell of a party and can cook like there's no tomorrow.

[Coupe427]

At least Cajuns throw a hell of a party and can cook like there's no tomorrow.

Theyll cook anything that moves too. Since I moved here I can tell you that froglegs taste like chicken. Alligator taste like tuff chicken. Ive had fish and shrimp cooked about as many ways as you can think of and it was all pretty good. Its no wonder the average weight is higher than normal around here.

[lisatw151]

My son went to Appalachian for a year. I guess now, when I wear my Appalachian State ballcap, people won't look at it and go HUH?

heehee

I can't say I've always been into college ball, but I will say one thing...

WAR EAGLE!!




That is all.

:D

[Coupe427]

I can't say I've always been into college ball, but I will say one thing...

WAR EAGLE!!




That is all.

:D

and I love it! War Eagle!

[rockyrambo]

I follow college football.
Appalachian State? What are they eating? They could knock off some GOOD I-A teams.

App State/Wake Forest grad here - good year for both teams last year (last two for ASU). App is good, but they have some conference tests this year that should be interesting. I did love the MI win, though.......

[soonergto]

It will be interesting to see who loses, USC or LSU or both. Because it certainly looks like Oklahoma is about to steamroll the Big 12 and be unbeaten at years end. Oct. 6th might be the best day of football in a long time. LSU-FLA and OU-TX along with a bunch of other big conference games.

Boomer Sooner.
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/OUSoonerf an1100/MalcomKelly.jpg
^best reciever in the country.

[BIGGIE.azGTO]

^^^^^ Oct. 6th is going to be a bad ass day of College Football. So many damn games I'm glad have a few TV's to catch all the games !

[soonergto]

I know man, Im totally booked all day long. Lets hope my wife sees it that way.....

I just got a new 50" HD DLP Sony Wega, so it will be better than ever.

[BIGGIE.azGTO]

Sweet, congrats on the new TV, HD is the only way to go with sports, It's funny I use to not think it was a big deal, then I got my HD big screen. Now when one of my buddy's calls to have me come over and watch game, Im like, if dont have HD, just start driving to my house !

[BIGGIE.azGTO]

There were so many awsome games this weekend !
Who watched what, and what to do you guys think about the National rankings?

[soonergto]

Its was a pretty good weekend. My Sooners handled Tulsa pretty well 62-21 against a pretty good offense with some crazy schemes. I watched Florida barely get by Ole Miss too. Im not surprised we jumped them in the rankings, we are looking far more dominate than they are as of late. They are riding a win against a below average Tennessee team.

I was dissappointed in the effort of WSU and S Carolina vs USC and LSU. I was hoping for more of a fight.

OU vs. West Virginia in New Orleans on Jan 7th.

[maddmitch]

I think its gonna be funny watching MSU beat Michigan...
and beating...Wisconsin...
and MAYBE beating Ohio..

[BIGGIE.azGTO]

MSU looks good right now, but Beating Ohio is a little strong, time will tell.
My home team ASU looks good. They are even ranked (for now)

[Coupe427]

I was in and out of consciousness throughout most of the day and caught bits and pieces of alot of games.

1. LSU should be ranked #1. They are a very strong and fast team and deserve it. S. Carolina is doing very well this year and LSU stepped up to the challenge.
2. USC still hasnt impressed me. Washington St shouldve been a closer game than it was. USC plays good football but the games I have seen(alot over the last couple years) havent been up to par of what I expect of a team held so high by so many. I hope they play LSU for the title.
3. Florida could have done better but the problem with any SEC school is they have the capabilities to upset the constant giants. Ole Miss is a pesky little brat. Oct. 6th against LSU will be the #1 game to watch that weekend. Someone will have to lose and just how bad will be the factor. My prediction: LSU 33 - FL 31

Auburn finally won. Hopefully that is a step towards what is to come.
I didnt get to see much of the OU game so I wont comment on that one.

G

[Displacement]

2. USC still hasnt impressed me. Washington St shouldve been a closer game than it was. USC plays good football but the games I have seen(alot over the last couple years) havent been up to par of what I expect of a team held so high by so many. I hope they play LSU for the title.


LOL!

Watching USC is like playing "Guess The Freshman" - Booty was making it rain out there, nobody could stop Chauncey Washington, McKnight (a TRUE Freshman) made the Cougs look like they were made from cement... Pick your weapon, man! We were going to 5 different recievers and 6 different tailbacks!

The 1 misstep we had was when Patrick Turner let a pass get intercepted in the endzone. I don't see how it "should have been closer" at all -there were at least 2 touchdowns we should have had where we just flaked out (can anybody tell me how USC got stopped at 1st and goal on the 5 with 8 minutes left? My TiVo cut it off!). Washington was held to 23 rushing yards in the first 3 quarters, and by then we had our 3rd and 4th string in!

Sanchez impressed me, too -here's a 2nd string quarterback who'd be starting at 99% of the schools out there and he couldn't be happier. He's throwing like a monster, too. We didn't get to see his arm until this game, and it is STRONG.

Loving this season :coffee: Fight on!

*sorry for the long-ass post, but somebody's gotta represent USC up in here.

Oh yeah, and Notre Dame sucks. They'll be 0-8 this season before they win a game :D
http://images.google.com/url?q=http://www.notredam esucks.org/clausen.jpg&usg=AFQjCNHwrYiYcxfQoaZqBrJbjh_eQrc5Qw

[Coupe427]

I mustve missed the good parts. I was drugged up saturday and kept falling asleep. The parts I saw didnt impress. We will see.

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Disclaimer: This post has almost nothing to do with football

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h171/jtrabert/Co fC/cheerleader-injury.jpg

Sidenote: I dated the chick walking in the background for a little while (name's Tara) - biggest eye**** slut EVER

[Coupe427]

Disclaimer: This post has almost nothing to do with football

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h171/jtrabert/Co fC/cheerleader-injury.jpg

Sidenote: I dated the chick walking in the background for a little while (name's Tara) - biggest eye**** slut EVER

now thats nice....wouldnt mind rubbing that down later for her. Cheerleaders FTW!!

[jbls1gto]

I think its gonna be funny watching MSU beat Michigan...
and beating...Wisconsin...
and MAYBE beating Ohio..

lol

MSU fans are delusional this year

[demonspeed]

I'm very disappointed in Penn State. I was born and raised in "Happy Valley", so it pains me to see how horrible the offense is.

Penn State is certainly not the same program it was in the 80's and early 90's.

I compare Anthony Morelli to a Dodo Bird, and Austin Scott should stay on the bench eating Butterfinger bars.

PSU doesn't even look like a ranked team. If it wasn't for that defense, they'd be hard pressed to beat the former IAA teams.

[Twitch]

It will become very interesting if Michigan actually wins the Big 10 and gets to play in the Rose Bowl (i think its rose bowl this year for big 10 champ). This would be one of the leading reasons that the BCS fails...again

[malcum]

^^^^^ Oct. 6th is going to be a bad ass day of College Football. So many damn games I'm glad have a few TV's to catch all the games !

I've got 4 Directv receivers in my fam rm. On saturday I feel like I'm in a control room at NBC. 3 TV's and a computer going with games. You guys are right. I can't remember a year with so many good teams and so many great games coming down the line. Being an Ohio State fan I figured this year to be an Alamo Bowl year. But Tressel's got another juggernaut building [maybe] and hopefully we can surprise the experts and take advantage of a weak Big10 and run the table. Wouldn't want to bet the farm right now on how it all works out for January.

[BIGGIE.azGTO]

Yea I have the guys coming over, its going to be one hell of a day for football.
and WTF is up the Irish?

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^^ LOL at gay quarterback freudian slip

Not that there's anything wrong with that...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VytIZZzee0

Sounds like somebody's got sand in his vagina. "I didn't read the article. This was brought to me by a mother- of children. I think it's worth reading." LOL - wtf? Way to stay professional, Oklahoma State. I don't know your coach's name

[malcum]

Yea I have the guys coming over, its going to be one hell of a day for football.
and WTF is up the Irish?

They're going to have to relax their standards or join the Ivy League. They need to start going after prop 48's and those without GED's just like the rest of the big boys. Organize a focus group to visit other major campuses and see what kind of crap courses they need to invent to get the needed anthropoids into a classroom that will satisfy the NCAA. It will take time-kind of like evolution-to reinvent themselves. Hey. if Appalachian State can do it, certainly ND can also. I've watched all of Notre Dame's games so far and haven't seen one of their players sporting dreadlocks. How pathetic for a major college football program.

[Lorider680]

^^ LOL at gay quarterback freudian slip

Not that there's anything wrong with that...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VytIZZzee0

Sounds like somebody's got sand in his vagina. "I didn't read the article. This was brought to me by a mother- of children. I think it's worth reading." LOL - wtf? Way to stay professional, Oklahoma State. I don't know your coach's name

His name is Mike Gundy. Obviously your not THAT into college football. Let it also be told that the said reporter has had many-a-times written about false info(all the Oklahoma coach's have said this before.) Just goes to show reporters have no morals when it comes to belittling amatuer athletes.

Facee!

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His name is Mike Gundy. Obviously your not THAT into college football. Let it also be told that the said reporter has had many-a-times written about false info(all the Oklahoma coach's have said this before.) Just goes to show reporters have no morals when it comes to belittling amatuer athletes.

Facee!

If you say so man :D I still think there are more professional ways of handling a "dishonest" reporter than to get in a hissy fit on national TV and storm out of the room without taking questions :cursin:

On Saturday, Gundy called three-fourths of the column “fiction.” During Gundy's news conference Monday, Carlson asked the coach to point out what he thought were factual errors.

“I don't have to,” Gundy said.

Article (http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/college_foot ball/20070925-0745-fbc-oklahomast-gundy.html)

[why2kmax]

I'm very disappointed in Penn State. I was born and raised in "Happy Valley", so it pains me to see how horrible the offense is.

Penn State is certainly not the same program it was in the 80's and early 90's.

I compare Anthony Morelli to a Dodo Bird, and Austin Scott should stay on the bench eating Butterfinger bars.

PSU doesn't even look like a ranked team. If it wasn't for that defense, they'd be hard pressed to beat the former IAA teams.

Agreed.
Unfortunately no one outside the PSU inner circle will ever know if its Joe that is responsible for the abysmal offense over the last 10 years or his offensive staff, and if so, his reluctance to change and fire them. His comments like "Michigan doesnt have our number, they just happened to play us tough today" tells me he is out of touch with reality. Yeah they played you tough Joe, today and for the other 8 years.

Unfortunately nothing will change so long as Joe leaves that offensive coaching staff in place. Mainly his son (IMO). How many years is it now that we have seen the same tired game plan, the same tired plays? When I can guess the majority of the plays through the whole game over and over, you can bet the competition is guessing it nearly 100% of the time. IMO Its not just talent, they've been losing multiple big games now for 10+ years. The offensive coaching stinks. Playcalling, preparation, mentality, every aspect. Its always "dont take chances and play not to lose and hope the defense can win it for us". If not oh well it was a nice day.

App State and Oregon gave them a blueprint to beat Michigan and they didnt even attempt to try any of it. Joe said they would play "their way" and well you see the results. They will never win another NC with Joe in control unless he changes his staff or his mentality. I love the guy, I love what he has done for that school, I love his attitude toward players and everything he stands for, but I think he is on the verge of undoing all he has built with that program.

Butterfingers Scott better get good grades cuz he is going to need a job after this year. Morelli was better as a freshman than he is as a senior. As wilth all PSU QBs, they sit the bench for 2 years waiting their turn, then get worse as they get older.

something has to give

[demonspeed]

Agreed.
Unfortunately no one outside the PSU inner circle will ever know if its Joe that is responsible for the abysmal offense over the last 10 years or his offensive staff, and if so, his reluctance to change and fire them. His comments like "Michigan doesnt have our number, they just happened to play us tough today" tells me he is out of touch with reality. Yeah they played you tough Joe, today and for the other 8 years.

Unfortunately nothing will change so long as Joe leaves that offensive coaching staff in place. Mainly his son (IMO). How many years is it now that we have seen the same tired game plan, the same tired plays? When I can guess the majority of the plays through the whole game over and over, you can bet the competition is guessing it nearly 100% of the time. IMO Its not just talent, they've been losing multiple big games now for 10+ years. The offensive coaching stinks. Playcalling, preparation, mentality, every aspect. Its always "dont take chances and play not to lose and hope the defense can win it for us". If not oh well it was a nice day.

App State and Oregon gave them a blueprint to beat Michigan and they didnt even attempt to try any of it. Joe said they would play "their way" and well you see the results. They will never win another NC with Joe in control unless he changes his staff or his mentality. I love the guy, I love what he has done for that school, I love his attitude toward players and everything he stands for, but I think he is on the verge of undoing all he has built with that program.

Butterfingers Scott better get good grades cuz he is going to need a job after this year. Morelli was better as a freshman than he is as a senior. As wilth all PSU QBs, they sit the bench for 2 years waiting their turn, then get worse as they get older.

something has to give

Couldn't have said it better myself. Joe is a good person, but he's past his prime. If you look at ND or Michigan and see their QB's; Henne has been playing the past 3 seasons, and even though he's out at the moment, they had him on the sidelines helping with the play calling. Even though ND stinks right now, Clausen is a true freshman QB.

Penn State is not going to go the whole way with just one or two standout players. Robinson was a God-Send, but he was just one kid, and it wasn't fair that the entire 05 season rested on his talent.

Back when people were saying Joe needs to go (early 00's), he retorted that he needed more talent. Well, he's had the talent. Even if he's past his prime, if he still wants to be coaching, then maybe instead of pacing the sidelines, he should have a set of head phones on and actually call some plays. Jay needs to go, and I've never been a fan of McQuery (he's a jerk in "real life" too).

Everyone talks about him being the winningest Div. I coach (off and on with Bowden), but if Carr and Carrol keep at it as long as Paterno have been, they'll blow him away.

[soonergto]

His name is Mike Gundy. Obviously your not THAT into college football. Let it also be told that the said reporter has had many-a-times written about false info(all the Oklahoma coach's have said this before.) Just goes to show reporters have no morals when it comes to belittling amatuer athletes.

Facee!

He couldve been more professional. I liked her rebuttal. She does write some stupid articles but also makes some good points.

Mike Gundy is in way over his head at OSU. He is totally lost, did you see him on the sidelines during the Troy debacle? He looked like somebody took his lollipop.

Boomer Sooner.

[Lorider680]

He couldve been more professional. I liked her rebuttal. She does write some stupid articles but also makes some good points.

Mike Gundy is in way over his head at OSU. He is totally lost, did you see him on the sidelines during the Troy debacle? He looked like somebody took his lollipop.

Boomer Sooner.

I hate to agree with you but your right. Not just using Troy as an example but play calling and what nots. Too bad Boone likes him so much. He did bring us a bowl win last year though and I see us going to another one this year. By the way, OSU is in first place of the Big 12.
Chuch!

Go Pokes!

[soonergto]

I hate to agree with you but your right. Not just using Troy as an example but play calling and what nots. Too bad Boone likes him so much. He did bring us a bowl win last year though and I see us going to another one this year. By the way, OSU is in first place of the Big 12.
Chuch!

Go Pokes!

You know, you are like the 20th Pokie that has told me they are in 1st since Saturday. LMAO. Are you guys playing the Michigan card? "The conference season is a whole new beginning." Because I have my doubts, with a defense like that, that you will be in first or even close when all is said and done. If you make it to a bowl, it will be just barely. Either that or the "Greatest Offense in the World" will have to put up some big time points, and they have only shown promise in one game against a team that doesn't play defense.

[jbls1gto]

You know, you are like the 20th Pokie that has told me they are in 1st since Saturday. LMAO. Are you guys playing the Michigan card? "The conference season is a whole new beginning." Because I have my doubts, with a defense like that, that you will be in first or even close when all is said and done. If you make it to a bowl, it will be just barely. Either that or the "Greatest Offense in the World" will have to put up some big time points, and they have only shown promise in one game against a team that doesn't play defense.

'The Michigan Card'

Unfortunately it's a good card to play. If Michigan wins the Big Ten they are guarenteed a BCS Bowl game....as you know. That's why the conference season is so important. This is mostly true after the lost to App. State and Oregon. IMHO, Michigan has as good a shot as Wisconsin or Ohio State to win the Big Ten this year. Thank god Wofford isn't in the Big Ten...

[Midnight]

'The Michigan Card'

Unfortunately it's a good card to play. If Michigan wins the Big Ten they are guarenteed a BCS Bowl game....as you know. That's why the conference season is so important. This is mostly true after the lost to App. State and Oregon. IMHO, Michigan has as good a shot as Wisconsin or Ohio State to win the Big Ten this year. Thank god Wofford isn't in the Big Ten...

Beware of Sparty too!

[soonergto]

'The Michigan Card'

Unfortunately it's a good card to play. If Michigan wins the Big Ten they are guarenteed a BCS Bowl game....as you know. That's why the conference season is so important. This is mostly true after the lost to App. State and Oregon. IMHO, Michigan has as good a shot as Wisconsin or Ohio State to win the Big Ten this year. Thank god Wofford isn't in the Big Ten...

Oh I agree, it makes sense. But a program like Michigan should be playing for National Championships not just hoping to get to a BCS bowl. Oklahoma State is in a different class than Michigan, Oklahoma, USC, etc. and is happy with getting to a bowl game. There was a time when they were a top 5 team in the early 80's but I don't see that happening again. Funny stat, Tulsa has more all time wins than Okie Lite.

Right now Ohio State looks the best on a regular basis, but the whole conference is way down this year.

[GTO JUDGE]

and WTF is up the Irish?


IMO...... Weiss sacrificed this years team for a run at the National Championship last year. The players of this year in key positions lack experience. They got little play time last year. Brady Quinn was rarely pulled last year when the Irish were up big, and when he was pulled it was mop up duties, and many games were too close to sacrifice playing time of the 2nd units. All key players were lost this year. NO QB back ups last year. This year a freshman now starting is the best they have. RB's? little play time last year behind Darius Walker who left his senior year to go pro. Walker played damn near ever down last year back up RB's were seniors which left this years RB's with little quality play time.

The O line is inexperienced. 27 sacks in 6 games shows it. They can't run block or pass block. Again, they did not get a lot of quality play time last year as a whole. The defense? same deal.

It's not so much recruiting, it's experience. They lack it everywhere. They would have a hard time beating quality I-AA teams. They will be lucky to win 2 games this year.

They are painful to watch. Being they have one of the toughest schedules in the nation year in and year out leaves them looking even worse than they are.

This is a prime example of sacrificing one year for another. They have a long way to go before they look average.

[jbls1gto]

Oh I agree, it makes sense. But a program like Michigan should be playing for National Championships not just hoping to get to a BCS bowl. Oklahoma State is in a different class than Michigan, Oklahoma, USC, etc. and is happy with getting to a bowl game. There was a time when they were a top 5 team in the early 80's but I don't see that happening again. Funny stat, Tulsa has more all time wins than Okie Lite.

Right now Ohio State looks the best on a regular basis, but the whole conference is way down this year.

Agreed...good comments.

I see Oklahoma and Oklahoma State fans have a similar relationship that Michigan and Michigan State fans have.

[soonergto]

I see Oklahoma and Oklahoma State fans have a similar relationship that Michigan and Michigan State fans have.

Oh yeah, very much so. Oklahoma has always been the powerhouse (winningest school since WWII) and Oklahoma State has always had a chip on their shoulder. Our record vs. OK State is 78-16-7 all time. We have scored 1761 more points in the series than they have. Most poeple in the state are primarily OU fans, hence our sellouts of 86k+ and OSU can't get 30k to their games, so they are expanding the stadium. Its not a good relationship. But after they win a game like this weekend, you see a whole lot more OSU shirts around. OSU will always be a school that is happy with "moral victories." "we didn't lose by much! We almost won!"

At Oklahoma we expect championships.
At Oklahoma State they hope to beat Oklahoma.

[malcum]

Oh I agree, it makes sense. But a program like Michigan should be playing for National Championships not just hoping to get to a BCS bowl. Oklahoma State is in a different class than Michigan, Oklahoma, USC, etc. and is happy with getting to a bowl game. There was a time when they were a top 5 team in the early 80's but I don't see that happening again. Funny stat, Tulsa has more all time wins than Okie Lite.

Right now Ohio State looks the best on a regular basis, but the whole conference is way down this year.

My gut feeling is that UM will get it's act together for the rest of the season and finish strong. So they were in the twilight zone for a couple of weeks. They still have a chance to have "The Game" be a big one in November against the Buckeyes. The strong conferences this year [other than the Big 10] have several teams that can kill one another in the next few weeks. I don't think anyone can predict how it's all going to settle this year. We may be totally surprised.

Here's a possible scenerio: I like OSU and hope they run the table by getting better each week as they usually do under Tressel. The other big boys chew each other up and even USC getting a loss in there. It's possible Michigan and OSU could play with State ranked in the top 3 and UM maybe cracking the top 10 by then. That game will be as big as any in their history. UM could be playing to keep OSU out of the BCS game and heading to Pasadena for themselves. Michigan in the Rose Bowl could take all the sting out of their horrible start.

Of course I'm only dreaming. USC, LSU, Fla and OK are ahead right now on the leader board and it would take a miracle for all of them to collapse. But, that's what this new catagory is for-BS'ing sports.

[soonergto]

USC will lose one, LSU might very well lose but they have all their big games at home. If Oklahoma can get past Texas, which is looking more and more likely, we should run the table fairly easily. That leaves West Virginia and Florida, they are both very good. Florida will suffer at least one loss this year while West Virginia should win out in a weak conference with Rutgers and Louisville being the only competition, if they can beat USF saturday.

My pick is OU vs. West Virginia in New Orleans on Jan 7th.

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USC will lose one

USC getting a loss in there

LOL, ok... :D

Les Miles said back in July "waah waah, USC has easier games than we do, waah waah" (I paraphrase slightly) but right now the teams on USC's schedule have more wins than the teams on LSU's schedule. And that's including an 0-4 Notre Dame! So Pete Carrol should go out there and start telling everybody that it's unfair that the SEC is so weak. Anyway, the Pac-10 is better just because we have a team called "The Beavers" -and they're usually pretty good.

That would be awesome. I would save that Youtube forever.

IF LSU pulls through this Florida game unscathed (and that's a caps lock if) I would love to see that game. LSU is a fantastic team to watch this year, but they usually are.

#1 player of the year, for me - Hart at Michigan. If leadership of a team plays a role in the Heisman chase I'd vote for him, no question about it. The kid picked up his entire team by the bootstraps and turned the program around at Notre Dame. Sure, they were kicking an injured kitten, but it was great to watch.

[soonergto]

LOL, ok... :D

Les Miles said back in July "waah waah, USC has easier games than we do, waah waah" (I paraphrase slightly) but right now the teams on USC's schedule have more wins than the teams on LSU's schedule. And that's including an 0-4 Notre Dame! So Pete Carrol should go out there and start telling everybody that it's unfair that the SEC is so weak. Anyway, the Pac-10 is better just because we have a team called "The Beavers" -and they're usually pretty good.

That would be awesome. I would save that Youtube forever.

IF LSU pulls through this Florida game unscathed (and that's a caps lock if) I would love to see that game. LSU is a fantastic team to watch this year, but they usually are.

#1 player of the year, for me - Hart at Michigan. If leadership of a team plays a role in the Heisman chase I'd vote for him, no question about it. The kid picked up his entire team by the bootstraps and turned the program around at Notre Dame. Sure, they were kicking an injured kitten, but it was great to watch.

So your logic for USC not losing one is that their schedule is tougher than it seemed from the start? To me that sounds like they are more likely to lose one now. I say they drop one to Oregon or Cal, probably not both though. Plus your Beavers lost to ASU.....

LSU will either lose to Florida or Arkansas. I don't know why I think Arkansas will beat them, but I do.

[Midnight]

A once proud basketball school pounded the BEAV. What the hell? How good can Oregon State be if Cincinnati dropped the hammer on them?

Then again, I'm a Cincinnati alum, so sure the Beavers are the bomb, and the Bearcats beat their asses to prove the strength of Big East football! http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc170/tsherick/ afd69f1ad4.gif

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Don't underestimate ASU- Erickson has led every team he's coached to National Championships. 4-0 is no small feat

I didn't say USC would go undefeated BECAUSE they had a tougher schedule, I just said they'd go undefeated. The tougher schedule was just a response to Les being a crybaby :D joke. Cal will be a really tough game- they always give us a good fight and always seem to think they can beat us, but since they spoiled our fun in 2003 we haven't given one up to them and I don't think we will any time soon. Especially since LSU got the "championship" that year - this year is a major chance for redemption in our eyes

[BIGGIE.azGTO]

USC lost to CAL last year, I dont see it happening this year! IMO

Yea, Im with you, there is just something about Arkansas that makes me think they can beat LSU, but Im pritty undecied. Should one hell of a game either way!

Yea I was at the ASU game, it was awsome!

[BIGGIE.azGTO]

Don't underestimate ASU- Erickson has led every team he's coached to National Championships. 4-0 is no small feat

I didn't say USC would go undefeated BECAUSE they had a tougher schedule, I just said they'd go undefeated. The tougher schedule was just a response to Les being a crybaby :D joke. Cal will be a really tough game- they always give us a good fight and always seem to think they can beat us, but since they spoiled our fun in 2003 we haven't given one up to them and I don't think we will any time soon. Especially since LSU got the "championship" that year - this year is a major chance for redemption in our eyes

Yep Ericson has ASU figured out, now its just a matter of building the team the way he wants it!

[soonergto]

Don't underestimate ASU- Erickson has led every team he's coached to National Championships. 4-0 is no small feat

I didn't say USC would go undefeated BECAUSE they had a tougher schedule, I just said they'd go undefeated. The tougher schedule was just a response to Les being a crybaby :D joke. Cal will be a really tough game- they always give us a good fight and always seem to think they can beat us, but since they spoiled our fun in 2003 we haven't given one up to them and I don't think we will any time soon. Especially since LSU got the "championship" that year - this year is a major chance for redemption in our eyes

ASU could be very good, they have the talen, but with a new coach and only 4 games its a little early to make assumptions. Granted he has done very well at each school he coached, but this team isn't there just yet. And saying he has led each team to a National Championship is totally incorrect considering he has only wont a championship at Miami in 1989 and claimed a mythical national championship in 1991. So he has actually won just one national championship, the 1991 championship is right up there with Alabama claiming 11 fake championships. He never won a championship of any kind at Idaho, Wyoming, Washington State, or Oregon State. So once again, we are making some pretty generous assumptions.

Les is a crybaby, we had to put up with him here in Oklahoma for 4 years. He complains about everything, but he had some great press conferences at Oklahoma State, must be something in Stoolwater.

Oh and LSU WON the championship in 2003. USC CLAIMED a championship that year. USC has been a great team but has WON just ONE NCAA National Championship in this decade.

This claiming national championship thing drives me crazy. People get voted #1 in ANY poll and say they are national champions. Right now the BCS winner is the national champion, period.

If we went by national championships we COULD claim, Oklahoma would have 19.

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USC lost to CAL last year

LIES!!! I looked it up becuase I was furious at myself for forgetting that - we beat them 23-7. :judge:

And in 2003 the BCS was brand new and didn't work. We would have walked all over LSU that year if it weren't for a computer error, and our 40-7 win over Michigan was proof enough of how good we were under Carson Palmer. Now if only we'd injured Vince Young back in 05... :banghead:

[soonergto]

LIES!!! I looked it up becuase I was furious at myself for forgetting that - we beat them 23-7. :judge:

And in 2003 the BCS was brand new and didn't work. We would have walked all over LSU that year if it weren't for a computer error, and our 40-7 win over Michigan was proof enough of how good we were under Carson Palmer. Now if only we'd injured Vince Young back in 05... :banghead:

1998 was the first year for the BCS, so it wasn't exactly "brand new" in 2003. We had a chance to beat LSU in that game, but Jason White, playing on 9 bad legs, missed a pass to our wide open RB that wouldve won the game.

It wasn't computer error, it was accurate based upon the variables they used. I think LSU wouldve beaten USC that year anyway.

You couldn't even touch Vince Young to injure him lol.

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You couldn't even touch Vince Young to injure him lol.

:comp:

You're right about the bcs, but for some reason I remember the commentators going on about how the "new" system was funky and didn't work.

I'm 100% for a playoff. I don't understand why we don't have one.

And if Oklahoma can come that close to beating LSU in 03, they couldn't have been THAT good. :judge: lol

[soonergto]

:comp:

You're right about the bcs, but for some reason I remember the commentators going on about how the "new" system was funky and didn't work.

I'm 100% for a playoff. I don't understand why we don't have one.

And if Oklahoma can come that close to beating LSU in 03, they couldn't have been THAT good. :judge: lol

That could be because commentators are typically morons. ESPN spent about half of the Oklahoma-Tulsa game with Bob Davie and Lisp Holtz talking about how crappy Notre Dame is instead of letting us watch the game. It was a total waste of time.

Oklahoma was pretty good....

[BIGGIE.azGTO]

Shit, my bad, who the hell beat USC last year?

[soonergto]

Shit, my bad, who the hell beat USC last year?

UCLA and Oregon State

[BIGGIE.azGTO]

^^ damn that right it was UCLA, thanks dude !

[soonergto]

I thought it was funny how both the UCLA and Oregon State games ended with USC on the 15 yard lin and a pass getting intercepted in the left flat. Strange.

[Coupe427]

oh and just so you know.....Auburn wouldve beat USC in 2004. Sorry but that was quite possibly one of the best college teams EVER. Yes even better than AU '85 with Bo Jackson.

[Midnight]

oh and just so you know.....Auburn wouldve beat USC in 2004. Sorry but that was quite possibly one of the best college teams EVER. Yes even better than AU '85 with Bo Jackson.

1985, best ever?

http://cfreference.net/cfr/show_school_season/330? season=1985

An 8-4 (3-3 in SEC) is hardly worthy of such lofty praise. Now, Bo Jackson individually? Sure, best ever... HANDS DOWN! :judge::judge::judge:

[BIGGIE.azGTO]

1985, best ever?

http://cfreference.net/cfr/show_school_season/330? season=1985

An 8-4 (3-3 in SEC) is hardly worthy of such lofty praise. Now, Bo Jackson individually? Sure, best ever... HANDS DOWN! :judge::judge::judge:

:huh: best ever as far as ?

[Midnight]

:huh: best ever as far as ?

It's subjective at best, but "all-around athlete", or "would have been had the Bengals not crushed his hip", or "OMG did you see what he did to the Boz?".

[BIGGIE.azGTO]

I'm with ya !

[Coupe427]

yes Bo Jackson himself is quite possibly the best single athelete. I even had a professor mention that he was glad when Bo left because he no longer had to hear him running up and down the stairs in his building for hours on end.

But the overall team Auburn had in 2004 is hard to beat.

[soonergto]

As much as I hate Oklahoma State, Barry Sanders was the best football player ever. College or Pro.

[Midnight]

I don't mean to infer that he compares with Bo or Barry, but I saw Keith Byers play for Ohio State when I was a kid (1984, if I remember correctly). It was against Illinois, and it seemed like he had 400-yards rushing. Absolutely amazing to see, and I was there.

He finished pretty high in the Heisman voting as a junior, and broke his ankle at the start of 1985.

[malcum]

I don't mean to infer that he compares with Bo or Barry, but I saw Keith Byers play for Ohio State when I was a kid (1984, if I remember correctly). It was against Illinois, and it seemed like he had 400-yards rushing. Absolutely amazing to see, and I was there.

He finished pretty high in the Heisman voting as a junior, and broke his ankle at the start of 1985.

You're right. I forgot about Byers. Without that injury they would have written sagas about him. He was going to be the second coming of Jim Brown. I'll never forget that one long TD run with only one shoe and his sock flapping in the wind.

Not much going on this weekend. The fri night game with W VA at USF looks like a winner. USF isn't ranked 18th without reason I'm guessing. Could be a BCS Y/N for WVa based on their remaining schedule.

[malcum]

As much as I hate Oklahoma State, Barry Sanders was the best football player ever. College or Pro.

I understand your feelings and Barry was great. But there was this guy named Jim Brown. Kind of like the Babe Ruth of pro football.

The Sporting News named him as the best pro football player ever in 2002 and Bert Sugar named him #1 in his book as the greatest athlete of all time. He still holds the record for career yards/carry [5.2] and is the only pro running back to average 100+ yds/game for his career.

Also named to the national lacrosse hall of fame.

[Midnight]

I understand your feelings and Barry was great. But there was this guy named Jim Brown. Kind of like the Babe Ruth of pro football.

The Sporting News named him as the best pro football player ever in 2002 and Bert Sugar named him #1 in his book as the greatest athlete of all time. He still holds the record for career yards/carry [5.2] and is the only pro running back to average 100+ yds/game for his career.

Also named to the national lacrosse hall of fame.


If only he hadn't turned into an asshat after his playing days, maybe Jim Brown would garner the same sort of admiration as the Babe.

Sports Illustrated Cover 1982 (?) - Will he come back to protect his record?
Spousal abuse - multiple occasions
"Helping" Maurice Clarett (sp?)
"Helping" LeBron James

Jim Brown was a great football player, and maybe even a better lacrosse player according to historians. It's too bad he turned into a dirtbag. Not even close to OJ status, but a dirtbag nonetheless.

To me, Walter Payton was second to none - both as a player and as a person. "Sweetness" FTW!

[soonergto]

Jim Brown was amazing, and its strange that he just up and quit to act like that. But Barry Sanders walked out in his prime after playing for a TERRIBLE team and could have easily broken every rushing record there was if he had a decent line blocking for him, same goes for his college career.

Also you have to understand how much football has changed since Jim Brown played. In his era the best athletes were always on offense and everyone else was on defense. Today the difference is not there like it was, if anything many of the defensive players are now the better athletes. Back then you did not see a 6'5" 250lb defensive lineman run a 4.6 40, that guy would have been a tight end. Its just so hard to compare these things when the game has changed so much.

[malcum]

If only he hadn't turned into an asshat after his playing days, maybe Jim Brown would garner the same sort of admiration as the Babe.

Sports Illustrated Cover 1982 (?) - Will he come back to protect his record?
Spousal abuse - multiple occasions
"Helping" Maurice Clarett (sp?)
"Helping" LeBron James

Jim Brown was a great football player, and maybe even a better lacrosse player according to historians. It's too bad he turned into a dirtbag. Not even close to OJ status, but a dirtbag nonetheless.

To me, Walter Payton was second to none - both as a player and as a person. "Sweetness" FTW!

Agree with all your points. If you factor in the scumbag elements of pro athletes most of them take a dive. Jim Brown is no exception. And Walter Peyton probably ranks as the best person morally or otherwise in the history of all pro sports. I can't even imagine him doing the current trend of dancing shit that today's supposed stars perform after simple routine plays. There was a time when I was younger and loved pro football that class meant something. Youngsters today that think it's cool to dance and show off and maybe kill dogs in your spare time just don't get it. Not all stars are asshats today but the few that are really stink up the place.

[BIGGIE.azGTO]

Jim Brown was amazing, and its strange that he just up and quit to act like that. But Barry Sanders walked out in his prime after playing for a TERRIBLE team and could have easily broken every rushing record there was if he had a decent line blocking for him, same goes for his college career.

Also you have to understand how much football has changed since Jim Brown played. In his era the best athletes were always on offense and everyone else was on defense. Today the difference is not there like it was, if anything many of the defensive players are now the better athletes. Back then you did not see a 6'5" 250lb defensive lineman run a 4.6 40, that guy would have been a tight end. Its just so hard to compare these things when the game has changed so much.



Wow, well said my friend !

[mizzou1307]

As much as I hate Oklahoma State, Barry Sanders was the best football player ever.

And when he got tired, they put Thurman Thomas in. I'll take that duo over Reggie Bush/LenDale White or Carnell Williams/Ronnie Brown any day.

[BIGGIE.azGTO]

^^^^ Hey ur a mizzou fan !

My uncle worked in the athletic department for 20years. He just retired. Not sure of is title, I think it was like Director of atheltics or something like that.

I fallow Mizzou football !

[Displacement]

This weekend's games are going to suck. Except Cal/Oregon. The rest? :zzz:

[GTO JUDGE]

The elite........
just to name a few:

Gayle Sayers
Walter Peyton
Jim Brown
Emmitt Smith
Barry Sanders
John Riggins
Larry Csonka
Hershel Walker
I.M. Hipp (college only)
Bo Jackson
Eric Dickerson
Earl Campbell
OJ Simpson
Reggie Bush (too soon to tell in the pros)
Archie Griffin
John Capaletti
Paul Horning
Ricky Williams (became a bust in the NFL)
Marshall Faulk

[soonergto]

The elite........
just to name a few:

Gayle Sayers
Walter Peyton
Jim Brown
Emmitt Smith
Barry Sanders
John Riggins
Larry Csonka
Hershel Walker
I.M. Hipp (college only)
Bo Jackson
Eric Dickerson
Earl Campbell
OJ Simpson
Reggie Bush (too soon to tell in the pros)
Archie Griffin
John Capaletti
Paul Horning
Ricky Williams (became a bust in the NFL)
Marshall Faulk

Can't agree more, but I gotta add some.

Most of you probably don't know about the Oklahoma teams of old with our option attack!
Often forgotten Oklahoma greats:

Little Joe Washington (super bowl champ, College HOF)
Billy Sims (college HOF)
Steve Owens (college HOF)
Greg Pruitt (averaged 9.4 yards per carry in his college career)
Tommy McDonald (college HOF)
Billy Vessels (college HOF

Soon to be NFL great:
Adrian Peterson (will certainly prove to be one of the best)

Other greats:
Marcus Allen
Tony Dorsett
Thurman Thomas
Doak Walker
Jim Thorpe


I don't know if I would consider Reggie Bush a great "running back" but he was a great player. He actually played very little running back.

[malcum]

This weekend's games are going to suck. Except Cal/Oregon. The rest? :zzz:

WVA - USF looks like a winner tonight. Has some big BCS implications for WVA. This is the best year in a long time for big college games. So many good teams going head to head in the next few weeks. After 4 weeks there's no clear cut probable BCS champ on the horizon yet. I love it.

[Midnight]

After 4 weeks there's no clear cut probable BCS champ on the horizon yet. I love it.

Agreed, but LSU looks damn good.

[malcum]

Agreed, but LSU looks damn good.

You're probably right. But they have Fla next week I think and can there be a bigger college game than that so far. If LSU can hold them off I think the Arkansas game will be huge 11/23. OSU with these early easy games has used them to find out what their profile is going to be. If they can find a way to get Wells on a 100+ yd avg from now on it will help Boeckman in the way Clarett helped Krenzel. The defense again looks like one of the best in the country.

In the PAC 10-who knows yet? Much to be determined there. Probably SoCal. Looks like the SEC is the toughest conference this year with about 5 teams that can beat one another. The Big10 is still a mystery. We don't know yet if MSU is any good or they're their usual win the first 5-lose the last 7 yet. Man, what a year.

How about those Bearcats?

[Displacement]

WVA - USF looks like a winner tonight. Has some big BCS implications for WVA. This is the best year in a long time for big college games. So many good teams going head to head in the next few weeks. After 4 weeks there's no clear cut probable BCS champ on the horizon yet. I love it.

Meh - I wouldn't want to bet on USF, but it should be a decent game.

I was looking at a graphic that showed who people expected to win the BCS and the only states that voted for USC were Cali and NY. hahaha I guess we're not very popular in flyover country. People really want LSU to beat us, but we'll see.

[malcum]

Meh - I wouldn't want to bet on USF, but it should be a decent game.

I was looking at a graphic that showed who people expected to win the BCS and the only states that voted for USC were Cali and NY. hahaha I guess we're not very popular in flyover country. People really want LSU to beat us, but we'll see.

Not me. I want the Buckeyes to beat you. Well, maybe not this year. But as you say, we'll see. :judge:

[soonergto]

Meh - I wouldn't want to bet on USF, but it should be a decent game.

I was looking at a graphic that showed who people expected to win the BCS and the only states that voted for USC were Cali and NY. hahaha I guess we're not very popular in flyover country. People really want LSU to beat us, but we'll see.

Your assuming that people think USC will win out and get a chance to play LSU....not gonna happen.

[Displacement]

LOL - can I +1 my own post?

Its like kids getting mad at their bully :D

[Displacement]

Not me. I want the Buckeyes to beat you. Well, maybe not this year. But as you say, we'll see. :judge:

I would hate to see that game. My dad went to OSU so the house would be tense to say the least. My dad almost killed himself when OSU played Miami - he got his PhD there :D

[malcum]

I would hate to see that game. My dad went to OSU so the house would be tense to say the least. My dad almost killed himself when OSU played Miami - he got his PhD there :D

:gr_jest:

This could be the year we all have to update our predictions on a weekly basis.

[Displacement]

Wanted to post up this email I just got forwarded. A very sad story

>Chicago , IL (AP) - A seven-year old boy was at the center of a Cook
>County courtroom drama yesterday when he challenged a court ruling over who

>should have custody of him. The boy has a history of being beaten by his
>parents and the judge initially awarded custody to his aunt, in keeping
>with child custody law and regulation requiring that family unity be
>maintained to the highest degree possible.
>
>The boy surprised the court when he proclaimed that his aunt beat him more
>than his parents and he adamantly refused to live with her. When the judge
>then suggested that he live with his grandparents, the boy cried and said
>that they also beat him.
>
>After considering the remainder of the immediate family and learning that
>domestic violence was apparently a way of life among them, the judge took
>the unprecedented step of allowing the boy to propose who should have
>custody of him.
>
>After two recesses to check legal references and confer with the Child
>welfare officials, the judge granted temporary custody to the University of

>Notre Dame Fighting Irish Football Team , whom the boy firmly believes are
>not capable of beating anyone.

[malcum]

Wanted to post up this email I just got forwarded. A very sad story

God'll get you for that.

[soonergto]

Q: What do you call a drug ring in Austin ?
A: A huddle.

Q: Four UT Longhorns in a car, who's driving?
A: The police.

The UT Longhorns have adopted a new "Honor System".
Yes your Honor, No your Honor.

The UT Longhorns knew they had to do something for their defense,
so they hired a new defensive coordinator: F. Lee Bailey.

Q: How do the UT Longhorns spend their first week at fall practice?
A: Studying their Miranda Rights.

Q: What do you say to a Longhorn in a suit?
A: Will the defendant please rise?

Q: If you see Longhorn football player on a bike, why don't you swerve to hit him?
A: It might be your bike!

The Longhorns employ scouts.
But to look out for cops, not to scout high school kids.

I heard a rumor that the Texas Department of Corrections plans to build a new prison
In Austin , Texas in order to allow Longhorns to walk to school.

Q: What do you call it when a Longhorn goes on vacation?
A: Time off for good behavior.

Q: Why couldn't the Longhorn get into a huddle on the football field?
A: It's a parole violation to associate with known felons.

Obviously Coach Mack Brown is not paying his players if they have to resort to robbing people.

Book 'em, Horns!

[txbatman]

One day in an elementary school a teacher asks her class if the Oklahoma Sooners are their favorite football team. The whole class says yes, except for Little Jimmy.

The teacher asks, "What's your favorite football team Jimmy?"

Little Jimmy says, "The Texas Longhorns "

The teacher asks, "Well, why is that?"

Little Jimmy says, "Well, my dad is a Longhorn fan, my mom is a Longhorn fan, I guess that makes me a Longhorn fan."

The teacher angered by his reply says, "If your dad was a moron and your mom was an idiot what would that make you?"

Little Jimmy says, "Well, I guess that would make me an Oklahoma fan."


Q: How many Oklahoma fans does it take to screw in a light bulb?

A: One, but he gets 3 credits.

Q: What's the difference between an Oklahoma fan and a carp?

A: One is a bottom-feeding, scum sucker, and the other is a fish.

Q: What's the hardest thing about being an Oklahoma Sooner fan?

A: Telling your parents that you're gay.

Q: Why do they throw out a sack of manure at University of Oklahoma weddings?

A: To keep the flies off the bride.

Q: Why do University of Oklahoma fans keep their diplomas on their dashboards?

A: So they can park in handicap spaces.

Q: Did you hear the story about the semi-truck carrying pigs that flipped over on the University of Oklahoma campus?

A: The officials had to check ID's before letting any of the Sooners cheerleaders back on board

Q: What does the average University of Oklahoma student get on his SAT?

A: Drool.

Q: How do you get an University of Oklahoma grad off of your front porch?

A: Pay him for the pizza.

[BIGGIE.azGTO]

rotflmao :gr_jest::gr_jest:

[Midnight]

Q: What's the hardest thing about being an Oklahoma Sooner fan?

A: Telling your parents that you're gay.


QFT! :judge:

Sooner fan is the one that went to the "castration by yam-bag-yank" technique!:bomb::barf:

[soonergto]

Just as long as our players stay out of jail......Does Saxet even have a full team to bring on Oct. 6th?


Oh and GO USF!!!

[txbatman]

Just as long as our players stay out of jail......Does Saxet even have a full team to bring on Oct. 6th?


Oh and GO USF!!!

No, just some of your players.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B0 4EED6113FF93BA25753C1A961958260&n=Top%2fReference%2fTimes%20Topics%2fOrganizations %2fU%2fUniversity%20of%20Oklahoma


1st year we have EVER had this problem.

And we dont have players who get paid for nothing.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/04/sports/ncaafootb all/04sooners.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

How many years has OU been suspended from bowl games????

How many recruiting violations???

How many OU players have have been suspended ?????

Some of our players may be criminals, but at least they aren't all cheats.

[jbls1gto]

Just as long as our players stay out of jail......Does Saxet even have a full team to bring on Oct. 6th?


Oh and GO USF!!!


Don't you mean GO BUFFS!!??

[Twitch]

Texas just had a string of bad luck...and McCoy may be out of the game. they need to do better or they will end up like OU

[Displacement]

CA-LO-RA-DO
CA-LO-RA-DO

Awesome weekend!

It looks like I got it backwards- Cal/Oregon is boring as hell and the rest of the games are pretty awesome

Even LSU got scared today!

[Cal Goat]

Cal wins in Oregon for the first time since 1988! Go Bears!

[BRAZEN06GTO]

How 'bout them UK Wildcats...5-0 and maybe moving into the top 10 after today's results!!

Woodson 16 td's...1 int.:boink:

[Cal Goat]

How 'bout them UK Wildcats...5-0 and maybe moving into the top 10 after today's results!!

Woodson 16 td's...1 int.:boink:

Yeah, and statistically, they have the best QB in the nation right now... although he did throw his first pick today, but I think his 5 TDs will help him get past that.

[soonergto]

Andre Woodson is way overrated. Most of his td passes are because his recievers adjust to his terrible inaccurate passes.


This was a crazy day of college football.....a ton of top 25 teams lost to unranked teams.

[Cal Goat]

This was a crazy day of college football.....a ton of top 25 teams lost to unranked teams.

Yes, but my Pac 10 favorites, USC and Cal both survived!

[jbls1gto]

I have to say...way to go Auburn...shut down those Florida yappers. And thank you Badgers, we no longer have to listen to those Spartans yapping either. Go back to East Lansing and burn some couches or something.

[Spyral]

DBlue is gonna be pissed...lol..that boy loves him some Gators.

[Napoleon_Tanerite]

Miami should be back in the top 25 now!

[jbls1gto]

New rankings released

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/rankingsindex

[Displacement]

Miami is close- 26th and 27th in USA Today and AP.

Look at how close it is - 32 vs. 33 votes. USC deserved to drop to 2, though.

Fight On Anyway!

[Midnight]

Andre Woodson is way overrated. Most of his td passes are because his recievers adjust to his terrible inaccurate passes.


This was a crazy day of college football.....a ton of top 25 teams lost to unranked teams.

Ummm, Sooner-fan, you may want to lay low for a while...

[soonergto]

No sir.....im still a sooner fan loud and proud. Losses happen to inferior opponents all the time, its who plays better on that day. And I tell you what, Colorado played a hell of a lot better on that day. Of course fumbling a punt inside their 30 doesn't hurt......

And it could be worse....I could be a Texas fan.....K-state?

[malcum]

No sir.....im still a sooner fan loud and proud. Losses happen to inferior opponents all the time, its who plays better on that day. And I tell you what, Colorado played a hell of a lot better on that day. Of course fumbling a punt inside their 30 doesn't hurt......

And it could be worse....I could be a Texas fan.....K-state?

Hey, KSU has been an occaisional playa in the past decade, unlike KU. At least as formidible as Colorado has been.

[demonspeed]

The elite........
just to name a few:

Gayle Sayers
Walter Peyton
Jim Brown
Emmitt Smith
Barry Sanders
John Riggins
Larry Csonka
Hershel Walker
I.M. Hipp (college only)
Bo Jackson
Eric Dickerson
Earl Campbell
OJ Simpson
Reggie Bush (too soon to tell in the pros)
Archie Griffin
John Capaletti
Paul Horning
Ricky Williams (became a bust in the NFL)
Marshall Faulk

You forgot the most important one...

http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/281526.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1934A2752006EF5F0ED20A000C9F5045081 284831B75F48EF45

[soonergto]

You forgot the most important one...

http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/281526.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1934A2752006EF5F0ED20A000C9F5045081 284831B75F48EF45

One of the best college linebackers ever....not so hot in the pros....or the movies.

[Midnight]

No sir.....im still a sooner fan loud and proud. Losses happen to inferior opponents all the time, its who plays better on that day. And I tell you what, Colorado played a hell of a lot better on that day. Of course fumbling a punt inside their 30 doesn't hurt......

And it could be worse....I could be a Texas fan.....K-state?

Be loud; be proud. But, I would go calling out anyone else's QB right about now. Woodson sure looks to be the "real deal"...
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playe rId=146711


One of the best college linebackers ever....not so hot in the pros....or the movies.

And just to show that I'm not looking for a fight, Boz was an animal in college. Too bad Bo ran him over on Monday Night Football; Boz's rep was dead right after that play.

[soonergto]

Be loud; be proud. But, I would go calling out anyone else's QB right about now. Woodson sure looks to be the "real deal"...
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playe rId=146711

Im not saying he isn't any good, I am saying that 3 of his td passes saturday were made despite his poor passes but some good adjustments from his recievers.


And just to show that I'm not looking for a fight, Boz was an animal in college. Too bad Bo ran him over on Monday Night Football; Boz's rep was dead right after that play.

Bo made him look like a little girl.

[jbls1gto]

One of the best college linebackers ever....not so hot in the pros....or the movies.

I see Boz is proudly displaying his 'roid chin' in that pic.

[demonspeed]

No matter how he was in the pros, he was the only 2-time Butkis winner. We thought Paul Poslusny (sp) was going to be the next, but he did get 2-time bedniark or whatever. It would have been kinda cool that the only twin-Butkis winners would have been Boz and Poz.

You all might laugh, but Stone Cold is one of my favorite movies, lol

EDIT: I found that play where Bo "runs over" The Boz. It's not very impressive... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYDj2hQvnfk

[BIGGIE.azGTO]

I see Boz is proudly displaying his 'roid chin' in that pic.

LOL :gr_jest:

[grifferjr]

I see Boz is proudly displaying his 'roid chin' in that pic.

+1 trillion!!!!!

The Boz was roided throughout his entire college career!!!!!

[Midnight]

So what? Medical science would indicate that he has no testis left, is probably sporting man-bewbs, and can look forward to some form of cancer later in life.

[jbls1gto]

MSU eats it against Northwestern. hee hee!!

[soonergto]

Boomer Sooner!

[Lorider680]

The BOZ huh. He owns a Harley Davidson shop on the outskirts of Stillwater(home of the rival team OSU Cowboys) I have seen him riding his around town back when I went to school there.
Face!

Go Pokes!!

[Twitch]

Boomer Sooner!

ehhhhh....atleast it wasnt a blowout, and was actually a good game between the two for the first time in a while.
Colt McCoy just proved that a mobile QB is 100000x better then a passer. He looks too scared to run and makes dumb passes. With a rookie front line Texas needes to put in the rookie QB Chiles and let him run the offense like Young did.
Mack Brown is also losing my respect as a coach, who calles a running play or quick out when its 3rd and 20??

The pocket passes is becoming a thing of the past and Texas needs to go back to VY era fooball.

[Lorider680]

The pocket passes is becoming a thing of the past and Texas needs to go back to VY era fooball.

Pocket Passers win superbowls.

[soonergto]

Colt McCoy should not have played in that game. He clearly wasn't up for it after the beating he took last week.

VY was a freak and if it wasn't for him, Mack Brown would not be a coach at Texas anymore.

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/7306/vyncfb3.jp g

Go Florida and Stanford? WTF is going on?!?!


At this rate USF will be national champs.

[Twitch]

Man this year just keeps getting weirder. ND beat UCLA??? Stanford beat USC??? What???

Looks like my pick of LSU to win it all is looking to be the best pick so far. I think everyone over looked Ohio this year and they're making a strong pull right now to get back to the top.

Mack Brown is probably the nicest guy i have ever met in my life, when he interviews he talks about the other team and how good their doing and the players from their team. He has nothing but respect for other people and i have nothing but respect for him as a person. But i think that as a coach he can not motvate his players and it takes someone with extreme talent on a team of talet leading that team to a national championship, and that what VY did. Pocket passers may win superbowls but i would take a mobile QB anyday over a pocket passer, the last few years mobile QB's have won national titles in College, not pocket passers.

[Coupe427]

I love me some SEC football. Man that LSU-UF game was awesome. Looks like LSU is no doubt #1 now. I cant believe Stanford of all teams knocked USC down. Tennessee surprised me as well. Finally a good smack down from the Vols.

TxBatman, sorry man I was pulling for the horns but I dont think they could hear me with all the noise coming out of Tiger Stadium.

[BIGGIE.azGTO]

Going to be some good games this weekend. I will be at the ASU game !
I am a little nervous, Wasingtons QB looks really good right now !

[soonergto]

Mack Brown is probably the nicest guy i have ever met in my life, when he interviews he talks about the other team and how good their doing and the players from their team. He has nothing but respect for other people and i have nothing but respect for him as a person. But i think that as a coach he can not motvate his players and it takes someone with extreme talent on a team of talet leading that team to a national championship, and that what VY did. Pocket passers may win superbowls but i would take a mobile QB anyday over a pocket passer, the last few years mobile QB's have won national titles in College, not pocket passers.

He is a really nice guy, and in fact he was a the OC at OU in the mid 80's. I don't think he has much control over his players either, I think he tries to be too "fun" and "laid back" and they walk all over him. A team emulates its coach, look at what the Longhorns have been emulating lately.

Now for Mobile QB's winning, other than VY that isn't so much the case.

Florida-Tebow is "mobile" was was more of a short yardage qb and Leak played most of the snaps and was not very mobile.

Texas-Obvious, he was an amazing player. If it weren't for him Mack wouldn't be coaching anymore.

SC- Leinart was NOT mobile at all.

LSU-Matt Mauck was not mobile either. He was a stable player that didn't have to win, just needed not to lose.

Ohio State-Craig Krenzel was much like Matt Mauck

Miami-Ken Dorsey had a line that could block an army, which is good because he is sloooow.

Oklahoma-Josh Heupel, he could get out an run if he had to, but was a great pocket passer and wasn't very quick.

FSU-Chris Wienke was an old man, he couldn't run if he had a cain.

Tennessee-Peyton Manning, enough said

In fact you would have to go back to 1996 to find the last "mobile" qb that has won a National Championship, which would be Tommie Frazier of Nebraska, who played one of the best teams ever.

So in the last 9 years since the BCS started, only ONE mobile QB has won a National Championship. So i have a hard time saying that its the way things are going. In fact most of the top ranked teams this year don't have mobile QB's, except for teams liks USF with Grothe.


Can't wait for the weekend! God I love college football. Gameday in Norman! See you there!

[Midnight]

Now for Mobile QB's winning, other than VY that isn't so much the case.

Florida-Tebow is "mobile" was was more of a short yardage qb and Leak played most of the snaps and was not very mobile.

Texas-Obvious, he was an amazing player. If it weren't for him Mack wouldn't be coaching anymore.

SC- Leinart was NOT mobile at all.

LSU-Matt Mauck was not mobile either. He was a stable player that didn't have to win, just needed not to lose.

Ohio State-Craig Krenzel was much like Matt Mauck

Miami-Ken Dorsey had a line that could block an army, which is good because he is sloooow.

Oklahoma-Josh Heupel, he could get out an run if he had to, but was a great pocket passer and wasn't very quick.

FSU-Chris Wienke was an old man, he couldn't run if he had a cain.

Tennessee-Peyton Manning, enough said

In fact you would have to go back to 1996 to find the last "mobile" qb that has won a National Championship, which would be Tommie Frazier of Nebraska, who played one of the best teams ever.

So in the last 9 years since the BCS started, only ONE mobile QB has won a National Championship. So i have a hard time saying that its the way things are going. In fact most of the top ranked teams this year don't have mobile QB's, except for teams liks USF with Grothe.


Your post pretty well kills that line of thought! :thumbs:

[BIGGIE.azGTO]

:iagree:

[Cal Goat]

Welp... LSU just got beat...

[Twitch]

Welp... LSU just got beat...

even though they lost, they cant drop below 4th, bet they only move to 3rd, behind Cal and Ohio, at worst USF would go ahead of them, and that would just be straight weird.

[Midnight]

Down goes Cal...

[jbls1gto]

Big Ten back on top tomorrow? I think so...

[malcum]

Big Ten back on top tomorrow? I think so...

Looks like. Michigan seems to have righted it's ship. "The Game" is still on. We don't know much about OSU yet. The schedule maker was a genius knowing they would need a a bunch of cupcakes early on to find themselves. It does appear now however, that it's the big 2 as usual.

Props to LSU. I know they lost but that was an epic battle. Flynn took as bad a beating as I've ever seen. College football doesn't get much better than that game.

Congrats to KU!!

[jbls1gto]

It was an exciting evening of college football last night. Kentucky and Oregon State provided a nice 1-2 knockout punch.

[jbls1gto]

BCS Standings Released:

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/poll?poll=BCS

[GTO1_OHIO]

Ohio State back up on top...in a rebuilding year. I just have to laugh at South Florida and Boston College being 2 & 3 though. No way are they top ten material and they will fall shortly. There has to be at least 10 big name schools that would roll over these by at least 3 TDs. ... and I certainly wouldn't pick South Florida over Florida.

[2000gtp]

I am not impressed with Ohio State yet. I want to see them play someone good and by good I dont mean Michigan lol. I mean Ysu, Akron, washington, Nw, Minnesota who is god awful this year and I will give them Purdue at least they were ranked. I think its a messed up part of the BCS it rewards teams with easy schedules while teams in the SEC that have to play each other have no chance of being No 1 because they almost always have a loss or two by the end of the year. I just want to see Ohio State dominate some teams before I call them legit.

[BIGGIE.azGTO]

Did any of you guys catch that Boise State Navada game !
I watched the whole thing. WOW !

[Coupe427]

I am not impressed with Ohio State yet. I want to see them play someone good and by good I dont mean Michigan lol. I mean Ysu, Akron, washington, Nw, Minnesota who is god awful this year and I will give them Purdue at least they were ranked. I think its a messed up part of the BCS it rewards teams with easy schedules while teams in the SEC that have to play each other have no chance of being No 1 because they almost always have a loss or two by the end of the year. I just want to see Ohio State dominate some teams before I call them legit.

I agree. If LSU and Ohio State were to play I believe the outcome would be along the same lines as Floridas stomp on them last year. Most of the SEC would come out on top and even the little ones in our conference can bite you in the butt.

I just wish Auburn wouldve found their groove a little earlier. Hopefully they can add 1 more loss to LSU's calender this weekend.

[Midnight]

I am not impressed with Ohio State yet. I want to see them play someone good and by good I dont mean Michigan lol. I mean Ysu, Akron, washington, Nw, Minnesota who is god awful this year and I will give them Purdue at least they were ranked. I think its a messed up part of the BCS it rewards teams with easy schedules while teams in the SEC that have to play each other have no chance of being No 1 because they almost always have a loss or two by the end of the year. I just want to see Ohio State dominate some teams before I call them legit.

Even Buckeye-fan agrees with you. :judge:

[soonergto]

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h1/hgarmorer/780 03322-140f-44d7-a9c2-d997f83ed2f.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o253/lehman218/ umarrogant.jpg
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z181/JayMarMan/ Intellicry.gif
http://igiveupagain2.tripod.com/galleries/florida/ ufd1.png

[2000gtp]

http://www.travelok.com/graphics/media/pressReleas e/Buffalo1878.JPG

just kidding lol I love the florida wheel

[soonergto]

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c341/legendofron mexico/cu-signs-1.jpg

[2000gtp]

lol I am a gamecock fan so I really dont have any right to make fun of anybody's team we havent had a great year since 1984 and even then we lost to navy when we were ranked #2. But I thought the buffalo was funny lol.

[soonergto]

This is funny too...
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o253/lehman218/ usc.jpg

[2000gtp]

just a red x showing up

[soonergto]

Maybe that link will work.

[2000gtp]

Its a great shirt lol I have only been a fan since 2002 when I lived in South Carolina. I grew up in North Dakota and I had no idea how big college football really was. My fiance goes to school there and I was fortunate to get in to a few games. The atmosphere of big time college football in Williams Brice Stadium in Columbia is crazy as I am sure it is every where else. I used to think all the gamecock t-shirts and C o c k s stuff I saw was made up lol.

[BIGGIE.azGTO]

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h1/hgarmorer/780 03322-140f-44d7-a9c2-d997f83ed2f.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o253/lehman218/ umarrogant.jpg
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z181/JayMarMan/ Intellicry.gif
http://igiveupagain2.tripod.com/galleries/florida/ ufd1.png

^^ lmao :judge:

[soonergto]

Best Gameday sign ever. They made them take it down, but it was hilarious while it was there.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s198/quicksilve rautodetail/n9632297_35158542_50101.jpg

[Displacement]

^^LMAO! That's fantastic

[Midnight]

Best Gameday sign ever. They made them take it down, but it was hilarious while it was there.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s198/quicksilve rautodetail/n9632297_35158542_50101.jpg

Priceless!!!

[BIGGIE.azGTO]

^^^ + 1 Lmao

[soonergto]

Go Rutgers! Now we just need LSU and BC to lose again, which is very possible. We need to win out and hope the teams we beat keep winning too.

[malcum]

Go Rutgers! Now we just need LSU and BC to lose again, which is very possible. We need to win out and hope the teams we beat keep winning too.

If BC is as good as their ranking I'm afraid the rest of their schedule looks like a cakewalk. Oops! Forgot. They're unbeaten and playing this weekend. ByeBye BC. It does appear that the eventual BCS game will have opponents with some losses. The Buckeyes still have to prove themselves against someone other than the MAC and Purdue. But, I'm a fan. So maybe they can break the jinx that's out there this year.

Edit: The Rutgers game was great. Their coach really outcoached the USF coach who by the way he was screaming and his facial expressions makes Bobby Knight seem like Mary Poppins.

[Displacement]

I'm so glad I watched the Rutgers game- they did an outstanding job and got through the pressure briliantly. I love how even unranked teams are putting it all on the line this year and really beating up the big boys

[Coupe427]

Go Rutgers! Now we just need LSU and BC to lose again, which is very possible. We need to win out and hope the teams we beat keep winning too.

Hopefully my AU tigers can provide one of those losses for you tomorrow.

[soonergto]

Hopefully my AU tigers can provide one of those losses for you tomorrow.

*crosses fingers* I hope so. Things might work out after all in this crazy college season, although its a little early to tell.

[beansandcornbread]

ROLL TIDE ROLL!! Great game. UcheaT sucks!

[BRMike]

I agree. If LSU and Ohio State were to play I believe the outcome would be along the same lines as Floridas stomp on them last year. Most of the SEC would come out on top and even the little ones in our conference can bite you in the butt.

I just wish Auburn wouldve found their groove a little earlier. Hopefully they can add 1 more loss to LSU's calender this weekend.


What the...? :p

You better not let anyone around here hear you say that!
Auburn is putting a hurtin' on LSU right now. LSU has been exposed, I'm sorry to say. Here's hoping that Les Miles goes to Michigan.

Now I'm going to have to listen to the wife gloat (Auburn class of 1998) :banghead:

[lisatw151]

WAR EAGLE!!!!

[The Black Phantom]

ROLL TIDE ROLL!! Great game. UcheaT sucks!

Get ready! Your team is next on LSU's bulls-eye! Auburn held LSU to thirty points, with your teams defence or lack thereof they will probably score at least 60 on the tide!

Oh and wait until Auburn gets you at home at the end of the year!

War Eagle!!!

[BRMike]

Another classic Auburn/LSU game!

[maddmitch]

i hate ohio

[malcum]

i hate ohio

Damn. What did we do? I can understand if you're from Michigan. California and Florida have a lot more reasons to hate them than poor old rust belt Ohio.

[jbls1gto]

i hate ohio

Oh, those poor Sparty fans are coming back to reality very quickly.

[Coupe427]

What the...? :p

You better not let anyone around here hear you say that!
Auburn is putting a hurtin' on LSU right now. LSU has been exposed, I'm sorry to say. Here's hoping that Les Miles goes to Michigan.

Now I'm going to have to listen to the wife gloat (Auburn class of 1998) :banghead:

Yeah everyone at work gives me a hard time for having gone to AU. I forgot your wife went to AU as well. It was a great choice on her part.:stickpoke Les Miles better be careful with those last second plays, the outcome wont always be miraculous. Lucky bastages.

Oh and I watched the game at Buffalo Wild Wings with some friends and was the only Auburn fan in the place. Lets just say by halftime I was pretty much hated by everyone.

[malcum]

Oh, those poor Sparty fans are coming back to reality very quickly.

They probably think that game saturday was actually close.

[BIGGIE.azGTO]

Wow there were some awsome games!

My boys, ASU is looking pritty hot. However our next 4 games are going to be really tough.

[The Black Phantom]

Man, what has happened to Kentucky since they upset LSU. Today they lost to Mississippi State 31-14. So much for Kentucky winning the SEC East Title!

[jbls1gto]

i hate ohio

I'm guessing you hate Iowa now too?

[Twitch]

man...these officials in the UT-Nebraska game really suck. they have now missed about 10 obvious (i mean OBVIOUS) penaltys, on both sides. i dont like when they ruin the game with too many calls, but seriously you have to make the calls when they are that obvious.

[ToddO]

Go Penn State!!!!!!!!!!!

[ChrisMcGTO04]

Go Penn State!!!!!!!!!!!

Go Ohio State! Lolz....all of us Buckeye fans expected them to have an off year....:bubbrub

[Leavehard]

:bubbrub:bubbrub

JoPA rulz !

[Coupe427]

Go Ohio State! Lolz....all of us Buckeye fans expected them to have an off year....:bubbrub

its hard to have an off year with the teams they play anyway :stickpoke

[ChrisMcGTO04]

:bubbrub:bubbrub

JoPA rulz !

Older than dirt road rager! Your hero Leavey....:coffee:

[ChrisMcGTO04]

its hard to have an off year with the teams they play anyway :stickpoke

Hey they took their beating....as did LSU did to Keeeeeeeeentucky....:bubbrub

[Coupe427]

Hey they took their beating....as did LSU did to Keeeeeeeeentucky....:bubbrub

yeah that shouldnt have happened but we'll just say that kentucky sucks now because they got beat up so bad for three straight weeks, or maybe all the SEC teams are just that good.

:bunny:

[Leavehard]

Older than dirt road rager! Your hero Leavey....:coffee:

yeah, two peas in a pod we is... 'cept he forgot more about the game than I noes. :D

[malcum]

:bubbrub:bubbrub

JoPA rulz !

We all love Paterno [Joe Pesci without his makeup] but you got to FEAR THE VEST! I thought PSU would be ready to upset the Buckeyes. But it turned out to be OSU's easiest game so far. I can't remember a Penn State team being so thououghly dominated. They couldn't even force a punt. Boeckman and the offense are getting better each game. Screw the doubters. We'll ride this horse while it lasts.

[malcum]

Go Ohio State! Lolz....all of us Buckeye fans expected them to have an off year....:bubbrub

I'm with you Chris. They have exceeded my expectations so far. Just shows what a great coaching staff can do [and a friendly schedule maker as it turns out to give a new offense a chance to find itself]. After 9 games here's my observation on the Buckeyes: Boeckman is looking like one of the better QB's in the country right now. He's perfect for the offense they have. I'm amazed that Robiskie, Hartline and Ballard are at least as good as Ginn, Gonzales, etc-maybe better[Hartline's family lives not far from me as well as Kirk Barton's]. Chris Wells has been playing hurt since the 2nd game[hip pointer]. I saw it happen and they have said nothing about it but it's obvious that it hurts every time he hits the ground. That's why he comes out of the game every other play.

We've got a way to go yet and "The Game" looks as big as ever. With fingers crossed maybe we will be able to make up for last January's embarrassment.

[soonergto]

The #1 team's marquee win was vs. the former #25 team. Weak. Still plenty of time.

[Coupe427]

We've got a way to go yet and "The Game" looks as big as ever. With fingers crossed maybe we will be able to make up for last January's embarrassment.

If they end up playing BC then yes, if LSU then no.

[Coupe427]

The #1 team's marquee win was vs. the former #25 team. Weak. Still plenty of time.

:mswerd: woopty doodoo

[zech912]

Penn State lost 2 excellent defensive line starters for the season in the prior 2 weeks, and it showed. College football's sack leader put no pressure on Boeckman. Having said that, the OSU looked very very good. I hope they run the table and redeem themselves and the Big Ten against LSU for the Championship. It would be a great game.

[malcum]

If they end up playing BC then yes, if LSU then no.

This is a bonus year for OSU fans. Preseason pick no higher than 4th in the big10. They lost their whole offense to the NFL draft and were just hoping for a decent bowl game. It's not the Buckeyes fault that everyone else in front of them has been flopping all year. Regardless what happens the rest of this year they have practically the whole team back next year-and they've got Tressel. They have one of the best RB's in the country[a soph] that's been playing hurt since the second game.

Whichever teams play in the BCS game it's going to be a good one. What's great is that even at this late date there are no sure-fire bets who's going to be there. About 6 teams have a chance.

This would be a great year for a true playoff. Don't you agree?

[Displacement]

Penn State lost 2 excellent defensive line starters for the season in the prior 2 weeks, and it showed. College football's sack leader put no pressure on Boeckman. Having said that, the OSU looked very very good. I hope they run the table and redeem themselves and the Big Ten against LSU for the Championship. It would be a great game.

You can't say "there were injuries" and still be called a great team though. Does anyone say "USC is injured"? No. Regardless of the fact that 4/5 of our offensive line, our qb, 2 tailbacks, and our star fullback are all injured. And that's just on offense. It sucks but it's a fact of life, and if people get injured that's the fault of the training staff.

USC sucks this year but I'm still going to the game again this weekend. The PAC-10 is so much fun to watch this year. Rock on ASU!

[Midnight]

The #1 team's marquee win was vs. the former #25 team. Weak. Still plenty of time.

RIIIIIIIGHT, and Okie beat who? Texas? The Shorties barely squeeked by the Corn-gangsters. Missouri? Sure, nice team but a "marquee win"? Miami? At 5-3, hardly a "big deal" anymore.

If your gonna go with a "strength of schedule" crack, maybe you shouldn't have North Texas, Tulsa, and Utah State on your list of Wins. Besides, YOU LOST A GAME SOONER-FAN!




psssst! You're gonna lose to Kansas too! :D

[malcum]

You can't say "there were injuries" and still be called a great team though. Does anyone say "USC is injured"? No. Regardless of the fact that 4/5 of our offensive line, our qb, 2 tailbacks, and our star fullback are all injured. And that's just on offense. It sucks but it's a fact of life, and if people get injured that's the fault of the training staff.

USC sucks this year but I'm still going to the game again this weekend. The PAC-10 is so much fun to watch this year. Rock on ASU!

I don't have a dog in the hunt as regards the west coast but Oregon with those damn ninja turtle suits is going to have a lot to say about the final outcome this year. That's a darn good team and fun to watch.

ASU is facing crunch time. I think they're looking at three losses finishing out. The Oregon game this weekend should be telling.

Don't get me wrong. I would like to see ASU run the table. They are almost a bigger surprise so far this year than Ohio State.

[BIGGIE.azGTO]

I don't have a dog in the hunt as regards the west coast but Oregon with those damn ninja turtle suits is going to have a lot to say about the final outcome this year. That's a darn good team and fun to watch.

ASU is facing crunch time. I think they're looking at three losses finishing out. The Oregon game this weekend should be telling.

Don't get me wrong. I would like to see ASU run the table. They are almost a bigger surprise so far this year than Ohio State.


Yep, I was at the CAL game, the first 1/4 had me shaking. The 2nd half we really steped it up. Oregon will be a tuff game since we are playing at Oregon. They gave us a beating last year, and we are hungry for a win. I am more conserned with USC.

[Coupe427]

Whichever teams play in the BCS game it's going to be a good one. What's great is that even at this late date there are no sure-fire bets who's going to be there. About 6 teams have a chance.

This would be a great year for a true playoff. Don't you agree?

Regardless of who ends up playing I will still be sitting in front of the bigscreen full of joy. I would rather watch the college championship than the superbowl.

As for the playoffs I'm all for it and your right this year is a prime example of why its needed. Too bad playoffs didnt exist in 2004 when Auburn was left out and went 13-0. That was :bs:

[Displacement]

I have no complaints about 2004 :D

[malcum]

Regardless of who ends up playing I will still be sitting in front of the bigscreen full of joy. I would rather watch the college championship than the superbowl.

As for the playoffs I'm all for it and your right this year is a prime example of why its needed. Too bad playoffs didnt exist in 2004 when Auburn was left out and went 13-0. That was :bs:

That's perfect example of the BCS injustice. There is no way an undefeated SEC team should be left out of the championship picture. Wyoming 12-0, yeah maybe you have an argument[no offense intended to Wyoming, just being realistic]. If we can't have a playoff then at least include the top 4 teams in the standings. That would at least lessen considerably the chance that a major conference undefeated team gets left out.

[Midnight]

That's perfect example of the BCS injustice. There is no way an undefeated SEC team should be left out of the championship picture. Wyoming 12-0, yeah maybe you have an argument[no offense intended to Wyoming, just being realistic]. If we can't have a playoff then at least include the top 4 teams in the standings. That would at least lessen considerably the chance that a major conference undefeated team gets left out.
You know the gripe that will follow if/when that ever happens...

"We're #5, and the system screwed us! :cry:"

I, for one, am in favor of #5 getting the shaft. :thumbs:

[malcum]

You know the gripe that will follow if/when that ever happens...

"We're #5, and the system screwed us! :cry:"

I, for one, am in favor of #5 getting the shaft. :thumbs:

No system will ever be perfect. But under the present system there is always the likelihood that a team from a weaker conference with a perfect record will be left out. They may be just as good as the major power teams but we'll never find out. With 4 teams someone like Brigham Young can go undefeated and be assured a spot. Things have worked out generally OK even with just the top 2 qualifying. Auburn being the exception. You just need to accomodate all the undefeated teams in the BCS of which there are usually no more than 3 or 4.

This year presents a chance to prove my point. Let's say Kansas goes undefeated and beats Oklahoma in their championship game. No way can they be kept out of the title game. If OSU wins out they will be in the game against KU. What happens to Boston College? They will have been #2 for the last 1/2 of the season and will get screwed. What about ASU? They could be sitting on the sidelines too.

Now, realistically maybe only one of those 4 teams will win out. Probably BC. Now you've got what the BCS wants. One undefeated team and their right to pick from the 1 loss teams with not much fuss.

[zech912]

You can't say "there were injuries" and still be called a great team though. Does anyone say "USC is injured"? No. Regardless of the fact that 4/5 of our offensive line, our qb, 2 tailbacks, and our star fullback are all injured. And that's just on offense. It sucks but it's a fact of life, and if people get injured that's the fault of the training staff.



You are right and basically I agree with you. A little different for USC since Pete consistently gets at least 10 of the Top 100 recruits for USC. I just know that for PSU to win, their starters generally have to stay healthy. I was used to seeing excellent D-line play this year and it was totally gone against OSU. But what you say is true.

And I agree, a college football playoff would be tremendous, at least top 4, maybe top 8.

[Coupe427]

That's perfect example of the BCS injustice. There is no way an undefeated SEC team should be left out of the championship picture. Wyoming 12-0, yeah maybe you have an argument[no offense intended to Wyoming, just being realistic]. If we can't have a playoff then at least include the top 4 teams in the standings. That would at least lessen considerably the chance that a major conference undefeated team gets left out.

I would be all for pitting the top 4 against each other. Top 8 would be nice but that would be too many extra games.

You know the gripe that will follow if/when that ever happens...

"We're #5, and the system screwed us! :cry:"

I, for one, am in favor of #5 getting the shaft. :thumbs:

I agree. For the most part the polls can generalize where a team is ranked. If your not in the top 4 you probably dont deserve to be in the running. Now with that said and with the top 5 teams we currently have I believe there are teams ranked lower that would beat BC.

Screw #5, top 4 is good enough for me.

No system will ever be perfect. But under the present system there is always the likelihood that a team from a weaker conference with a perfect record will be left out. They may be just as good as the major power teams but we'll never find out. With 4 teams someone like Brigham Young can go undefeated and be assured a spot. Things have worked out generally OK even with just the top 2 qualifying. Auburn being the exception. You just need to accomodate all the undefeated teams in the BCS of which there are usually no more than 3 or 4.

This year presents a chance to prove my point. Let's say Kansas goes undefeated and beats Oklahoma in their championship game. No way can they be kept out of the title game. If OSU wins out they will be in the game against KU. What happens to Boston College? They will have been #2 for the last 1/2 of the season and will get screwed. What about ASU? They could be sitting on the sidelines too.

Now, realistically maybe only one of those 4 teams will win out. Probably BC. Now you've got what the BCS wants. One undefeated team and their right to pick from the 1 loss teams with not much fuss.

+1 it usually works out somewhat okay. As of right now there are 5 undefeated teams(Ohio State, BC, Arizona State, Kansas, and Hawaii) so even with 4 someone would still get left out, even LSU with 1 loss. I'm pretty sure they wont all survive like you said so it shouldnt be a problem. I still think someone will get left out again this year though. Just a gut feeling.

[malcum]

I would be all for pitting the top 4 against each other. Top 8 would be nice but that would be too many extra games.



I agree. For the most part the polls can generalize where a team is ranked. If your not in the top 4 you probably dont deserve to be in the running. Now with that said and with the top 5 teams we currently have I believe there are teams ranked lower that would beat BC.

Screw #5, top 4 is good enough for me.



+1 it usually works out somewhat okay. As of right now there are 5 undefeated teams(Ohio State, BC, Arizona State, Kansas, and Hawaii) so even with 4 someone would still get left out, even LSU with 1 loss. I'm pretty sure they wont all survive like you said so it shouldnt be a problem. I still think someone will get left out again this year though. Just a gut feeling.

This is just an unusual year. Maybe college teams are generally getting getting better and we'll see more and more teams like Kansas and BC join the title hunt. We'll just about need a playoff system. You mentioned Hawaii. They have a good team and score a lot of points in a conference that's considered weak. They will never get a chance at the BCS game even if they are the only undefeated team. Who wouldn't want to see them to get a shot at LSU or Oklahoma to prove themselves. I surely would.

It looks like this year that all the top ten teams could beat one another. If they could somehow combine 4 of the BSC bowl games as part of the playoff they could have their cake and eat it too. The championship game could then be the fifth bowl a week later on a rotating basis like it is now.

8 teams won't work because it screws up the traditional bowl situation. You would need 4 lesser bowl games a week earlier than new years that rely on playing around jan 1st. Rose, fiesta, orange, etc aren't going to wait until the week before to get their teams. Their success is built on tradition with ties to certain teams and that would kill that. This is still going to leave the Hawaii's and BYU's out in the cold but that can't be helped. The orange bowl will always want the SEC champ in it. Preferably the top 2 SEC teams if they can have them. With 4 teams everyone can be kept mildly happy.

[Coupe427]

yeah your right and I wouldnt mind seeing Hawaii play a proven team........these next few weeks are going to be the stuff legends are made of.

[malcum]

yeah your right and I wouldnt mind seeing Hawaii play a proven team........these next few weeks are going to be the stuff legends are made of.

:iagree:

[ChrisMcGTO04]

Colin on ESPN radio made a good point about OSU...

When Beockman plays great...they beat teams down....when he sucks it's a squeeker. If the big oaf can play like he did against Penn State I'm not too concerned about things....

[malcum]

Colin on ESPN radio made a good point about OSU...

When Beockman plays great...they beat teams down....when he sucks it's a squeeker. If the big oaf can play like he did against Penn State I'm not too concerned about things....

I actually think the Buckeyes have a better TEAM this year than last year. Their success depended on Troy Smith having a good game since the whole offense was built around him. Fortunately he was on for all but 1 game. Pittman was never more than an average RB. This year's team as it turns out has a better defense [at least in the top 5 in the country], more reliable receivers in Robiskie, Hartline and Ballard and a big pro type QB that gets the ball to them with amazing ease. Factor in a RB that looks more like Jim Brown every game[including the fact that he looks spent after every play] and a better offensive line and they ain't bad.

They still have a lot to prove and maybe they'll falter in the end and lose a game or 2 but I'm still satisfied with the effort this year. What a year this has been. I can't remember so many good teams all at once.

Here's something just posted on ESPN for us college FB freaks to chew on for awhile-bowl predictions.

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID= 732884

[soonergto]

Question: What do Tim Tebow, Sam Bradford, Todd Boeckman, Graham Harrell, Brian Brohm, Colt Brennan, Dennis Dixon, Pat White, Blake Joseph, Rudy Carpenter, Paul Smith, Ben Mauk, Cullen Harper, Taylor Tharp, Mike Teel, Chase Daniel, Andre' Woodson, Todd Reesing, Chase Holbrook, Trevor Vittatoe, Kyle Wright, Zac Robinson, Dwight Dasher, Brian Johnson, Bernard Morris, Colt McCoy, Nate Davis, Case Keenum, Alex Brink, Willie Tuitama, Dan LeFevour, Donovan Porterie,Drew Willy Buffalo, Brian Hoyer, T.J. Yates, Curtis Painter, Caleb Hanie, Kellen Lewis, Adam Tafralis, Thaddeus Lewis, Sam Keller, Erik Ainge, Tyler Donovan, Tyler Lorenzen, Patrick Pinkney, and Max Hall all have in common?

Answer: They are the 53 NCAA starting quarterbacks who have a better QB Rating than Matt Ryan this season.

And yet this guy is now being touted as one of the leading contenders for the Heisman Trophy according to SI.com, CBSSportsline, ESPN, USA Today, and Scout.com just to name a few. It would be one thing if Ryan was a dual threat QB who was also beating teams with his runs or another thing if he was beating the top teams in the nation but he has done neither. So then why is Ryan the favorite?

The unfortunate answer is because Boston College is undefeated and they are a, and I say this with extreme ridicule because there hasn't been one in decades, a Northeast power team where most of the big media outlets are located. Don't get me wrong, Ryan is a good quarterback and could be a really good pro. But the Heisman Trophy should go to the best player in the country and clearly Ryan isn't. I've watched him play 5 times this season and he has played good in one game(the Georgia Tech game), average in the Notre Dame game, and terrible in 3 others (NC State, Virginia Tech, and Army).

So when the ESPN "experts" tell you Matt Ryan is now the leading candidate for the Heisman Trophy you can laugh it off and wonder if he is indeed the Heisman leader than what does it make the 53 other quarterbacks who are statiscally better than him this season?

Heisman candidate my ass.

[Midnight]

Heisman candidate my ass.

:iagree: But, did you miss the memo?


"football" award ≠ Heisman Trophy = marketing award

[soonergto]

I know I know. I can't stand these PR machines.

[malcum]

The truth is that OSU and Kansas will be in the title game if both win out- not BC, even if they end up 12-0. BC is ranked ahead of OU, LSU, and Oregon, but I don't think they[BC] could beat any of them. BC would have a better chance at beating OSU since they are as yet untested. PSU not being able to force 1 punt against them is promising.

As I look at the present rankings there are just too many teams yet with a legitimate shot at making the title game. The SEC and big 12 title games leave so much in doubt until the very end. Just think of the possible games there. LSU-Georgia, Kansas-OU[the biggest game for KU in their history] What a year. Can't wait til saturday.

[soonergto]

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