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KillerGTO
04-07-2005, 10:22 AM
I've read alot of things on here with people going back and forth about if there will be an 06 GTO or not, I emailed pontiac direct from the GM site, they then emailed me back and gave me another address to mail someone, Here was the responce i got

"Reed,

Put your mind at ease. There will definitely be a 2006 GTO. A lot of the
rumors you've been seeing are related to plans for the next-generation GTO,
which may be delayed somewhat. But the 2006 model is already in the plan
and should begin arriving at Pontiac dealerships late this year.

Regards,

Jim Hopson
Pontiac-GMC Communications"




5point7
04-07-2005, 10:24 AM
Sweet :)

nikivee
04-07-2005, 10:35 AM
And everyone was worried for nothing.. As usual. :D

LordGriNz
04-07-2005, 10:41 AM
Yeah.....But I only worry about an 08....I want one in October of that year, thats
at about 48,000 miles and time for trade-in on a new one. What happens before
that doesnt concern me very much....

nixapatfan
04-07-2005, 10:53 AM
Not everyone! :burnout:

Yup! not Everyone

wolfdogs
04-07-2005, 10:56 AM
Not everyone! :burnout:
make that 2... but then.... i just bought a 2005...so i dont care....LOL
:cool:

b4z
04-07-2005, 12:31 PM
I have been wondering why there is no '06 advance information.
In January 2004 we all knew that the '05 would have the LS2, plus bigger brakes,etc.

It is already April and we know nothing about the '06.

DJ Red Barron
04-07-2005, 12:47 PM
And everyone was worried for nothing.. As usual. :D

Apparently so were you.

Originally posted by nikivee at www.LS2.com 03/29/2005 9:44PM
Oh please. I don't want to be rude but who told you that BS?

There will be no Judge GTO, There may not even be an 06 GTO the way things are shaping up at Holden right now. So why would Pontiac produce 1500 500HP GTO's?

KillerGTO
04-07-2005, 12:52 PM
i emailed them back to see if they can give me info on the 06 GTO or when it will be released, ill respond in here again if they email me back with info

craigD
04-07-2005, 01:02 PM
i emailed them back to see if they can give me info on the 06 GTO or when it will be released, ill respond in here again if they email me back with info
Thanks for update, I will be going 06...........

miscreant
04-07-2005, 01:09 PM
I have been wondering why there is no '06 advance information.
In January 2004 we all knew that the '05 would have the LS2, plus bigger brakes,etc.

It is already April and we know nothing about the '06.
Probably because there will be no major changes (like new motor or bigger brakes... :) )

BlueGoatFL
04-07-2005, 01:18 PM
Is the 06 going to be a Monaro or completely new?

5point7
04-07-2005, 01:24 PM
Is the 06 going to be a Monaro or completely new?

I am guessing exactly the same as the 05, but with the LS7. Otherwise just the LS2.

KillerGTO
04-07-2005, 01:25 PM
stupid question, Whats the diff between the LS7 and LS2?

DJ Red Barron
04-07-2005, 01:28 PM
stupid question, Whats the diff between the LS7 and LS2?

100+ HP and 63 cubic inches or so. :D LS7 = new Z06 engine. Baaaaad ass motor. $12k+ for a crate LS7 from GM Performance Parts.

mdmbkr
04-07-2005, 01:31 PM
If they go LS7 (I bet no) then the MSRP will definitely increase. No such thing as a $33k 500hp car!

DJ Red Barron
04-07-2005, 01:33 PM
Where do you get 130 cubic inches? It's a 7.0 litre 427...it's still a small block even.

You're right. I am a mathematical retard today. I guess it would only be around 63 cubic inches or so.

DJ Red Barron
04-07-2005, 01:34 PM
If they go LS7 (I bet no) then the MSRP will definitely increase. No such thing as a $33k 500hp car!

A limited production run of LS7 equipped cars would be nice.

nikivee
04-07-2005, 01:35 PM
Apparently so were you.


Your are correct. It was the herd mentality that had me cornered. :D I should know better than that.

LordGriNz
04-07-2005, 01:36 PM
427-364= 63 cubic inches

KillerGTO
04-07-2005, 01:38 PM
nice, thanks for clearing that up for me

DJ Red Barron
04-07-2005, 01:40 PM
427-364= 63 cubic inches

Well, I am just climbing my way to the top of the Retard Totem Pole today, aren't I? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/DJRedBarron/ Smilies/boggled.gif http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/DJRedBarron/ Smilies/bawcomville.gifI don't know whay, but I deducted 346 from 427... LS1 on the brain I guess.

LordGriNz
04-07-2005, 01:40 PM
I believe us 04 guys are 346 ci

DJ Red Barron
04-07-2005, 01:49 PM
Your are correct. It was the herd mentality that had me cornered. :D I should know better than that.

After seeing your post in that thread, I got REALLY concerned. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/DJRedBarron/ Smilies/Eek03.gif I thought the Goat was doomed for sure.

RobertHammen
04-07-2005, 01:57 PM
As most of you have noticed, we do have a couple of GM insiders who visit and post to this board. One of them pooh-poohed the idea of an LS7 GTO. Don't think that's going to happen, at least on this chassis. The other was asking questions, if you had $2k to spend on the interior, what things the Aussies get would you lust after?

I'm thinking that, in true GM "get it right and then kill it" fashion, there will be some interior tweaks offered on the '06. Another thread here points to speculation of a 415 hp LS2 in the 2006 CTS-V- maybe a minor performance tweak like that. Doubt we'll see anything radical, though (no Woodward GTO body kits, sorry). Not enough to get me out of my '04. Not sure I'll buy another GM after my whole service/exchange experience with my first '04, but if they don't have a new affordable RWD coupe or sedan by the 2009MY it won't matter to me anyway.

--Robert

rt66er
04-07-2005, 02:55 PM
Hoping for:
A. 6-speed auto
B. Monaro HVAC
C. spoiler delete
D. no gas guzzler tax (see A)

phobos512
04-07-2005, 02:56 PM
I'm voting along with everyone else but adding the obvious thing that I didn't see yet - new color options.

SilverStreakGTO
04-07-2005, 03:23 PM
Hoping for:
A. 6-speed auto
B. Monaro HVAC
C. spoiler delete
D. no gas guzzler tax (see A)

6-speed auto??? i'm at least hoping for a 5

KDWhite
04-07-2005, 03:37 PM
You're right. I am a mathematical retard today. I guess it would only be around 63 cubic inches or so.
1 Litre = 61.0237 cubic inches
7 Litre = 427.166 cubic inches :cool:

Devil
04-07-2005, 04:56 PM
stupid question, Whats the diff between the LS7 and LS2?

100HP

wolfdogs
04-07-2005, 04:58 PM
the 6 speed auto is comming folks.
gas guzzler will depend on CAFE, the auto's dont make it..gm's agreement is to pay the fine and keep the skipShift on the m6 to barely make it under the numbers...

both suk.

sccaGTO
04-07-2005, 05:43 PM
Hoping for:
A. 6-speed auto
B. Monaro HVAC
C. spoiler delete
D. no gas guzzler tax (see A)
A. Not on the '06s
B. Probably not (although I thought we got the Monaro HVAC to begin with)
C. Available on the '05
D. Not until the 6-speed AT comes in

If they go LS7 (I bet no) then the MSRP will definitely increase. No such thing as a $33k 500hp car!
If they do, then I jumped the gun. Kick me in the ass right now.

LS7 = new Z06 engine. Baaaaad ass motor. $12k+ for a crate LS7 from GM Performance Parts.
New Pontiac GTO---$33,695 MSRP
New LS7 Crate Engine---$12,000
Ability to rip any car a new asshole---Priceless :burnout: :hail:

jasonblair
04-07-2005, 05:54 PM
What would get me out of my '04 and into an '06 is automatic climate control. It's in the Monaro, and the GTO needs it!

Goat Lover
04-07-2005, 06:16 PM
C. Available on the '05

Are you shure that spoiler delete is abailable on 05s? As far as I knew that is not available unless you do it yourself. Please correct me if I am wrong someone.

highperf
04-07-2005, 06:17 PM
LS7 yes ----> Climate control, I don't think so. I'd give that climate thing up everytime for an LS7 (a dream never to come true)

Goat Lover
04-07-2005, 06:17 PM
the 6 speed auto is comming folks.
gas guzzler will depend on CAFE, the auto's dont make it..gm's agreement is to pay the fine and keep the skipShift on the m6 to barely make it under the numbers...

both suk.

Kind of off topic, but DAMN your goat looks AWESOME!!!

I was like "WHOA!" when i scrolled down and came accross your post (first ive seen of you).

:thumbs:

sccaGTO
04-07-2005, 06:29 PM
Are you shure that spoiler delete is abailable on 05s? As far as I knew that is not available unless you do it yourself. Please correct me if I am wrong someone.
Do you wanna warm up that plate of crow for me? I guess I mixed up the spoiler delete with the hood scoop delete. Ooopps.

FutureGoatHearder
04-07-2005, 09:56 PM
I don't want the GTO to change in 2008. Leave my car alone GM!!!!!!!! :slap: :(

miscreant
04-07-2005, 10:20 PM
Hoping for:
A. 6-speed auto
B. Monaro HVAC
C. spoiler delete
D. no gas guzzler tax (see A)
I wouldn't get your hopes up guys!

If anything halfway major was in the mix for 06, we'd have heard about it by now. GM HAD to make changes for 05 (actually they planned to since they had to bring the 04 to market so fast), but GM isn't going to sink any more R&D into a car that for all intents and purposes will not be here in 07, or atleast on that architecture. I can GUARANTEE you that the 06 will roll off the line just like the 05. The easiest and quickest change would be, say, make the autocross spoiler the new spoiler, or add a new color, or perhaps bumped to 410-415hp.

Mikesan
04-07-2005, 10:36 PM
What miscreant said above is my guess too except I don't think they will do anything with the engine. Now if they have to carry the Aussie goat over to '07 model year, then I expect the LS7 option. A couple minor styling changes, drop Yellow Jacket or Cyclone Grey and add something in Orange/Copper metallic. Would be nice to see them put the parking brake on the left side. Maybe a sunroof option.

jasonblair
04-07-2005, 10:36 PM
LS7 yes ----> Climate control, I don't think so. I'd give that climate thing up everytime for an LS7 (a dream never to come true)

I am not talking about what I would want in a dream car. I am talking about what I think GM would reasonably put in the '06. I think they are A LOT more likely to go with climate control instead of an LS7.

rt66er
04-08-2005, 06:00 AM
Sorry, I wasn't talking about what I expected... just what I would like to see. Don't actually expect any changes from the 05 model. Rumor has it that the 06 Vette gets the 6-speed auto, though, so it wouldn't be THAT difficult. Keep in mind, too, the old GM tradition of finally getting something right just before it's killed!

KillerGTO
04-08-2005, 10:29 AM
Ok, information on the 06GTO will be released sometime this summer, also no major changes just minor things

Apollo9000
04-08-2005, 11:17 AM
Didn't the '05s just come out this Feb? And there's going to be '06 by the end of the year?

Tails
04-08-2005, 11:23 AM
I think we knew that. GM finally figured that you don't bring out a new high performance model to the Northern states during the dead of winter.

:drink::drink:

grfperformance
04-08-2005, 02:10 PM
Are you shure that spoiler delete is abailable on 05s? As far as I knew that is not available unless you do it yourself. Please correct me if I am wrong someone.

No spoiler delete on 05s, just hood scoop delete. I have the manual spoiler delete.

ShAkZ05GTO
04-08-2005, 03:07 PM
I'm thinking the SAME THING!!
Yeah.....But I only worry about an 08....I want one in October of that year, thats
at about 48,000 miles and time for trade-in on a new one. What happens before
that doesnt concern me very much....

CoppeR
04-08-2005, 04:40 PM
I just want one improvement: BIGGER rear fender wells. And we all know why. :burnout:

quacktheduck
04-08-2005, 05:12 PM
shoot if there's an 06 coming i should prolly just wait til year end then...

Goat Lover
04-08-2005, 05:31 PM
No spoiler delete on 05s, just hood scoop delete. I have the manual spoiler delete.

Yay! I was right for once on something! :judge: :bunny:

Goat Lover
04-08-2005, 05:42 PM
IMO it would be cool if they (not asking for much here of GM) at least changed the front end for 06 and continued bringing in the goats with the facelift for 07 then release in 08 a goat on a sigma based platform like has been stated may happen.

Some changed for 06 like maybe a woodward goat style front end, new hood (woodward hood, scoopless hood), new lighting for the ass, and spoiler options (ex, spoilerless, current spoiler, SAP like spoiler w/o the center pillar thingy), and maybe a little more power.

This would make sence IMO and isnt asking to much I dont think

Goat Lover
04-08-2005, 06:33 PM
just so I am not misunderstood, i think a wide body it is to much to ask for right now but for just a front end change it would rule for 2 more years!

OrangeCrushM6
04-08-2005, 06:49 PM
I've know this since the beginning of the 04 build. All that discussion about the
06 not being built. How do all those lies get started.

Goat Lover
04-08-2005, 07:21 PM
I knew it was gonna be built but other people were saying
"It wont be built... OMFG! ITS THE ****ING APOCALYPSE!!!!!!!!!"

Then there is also the news of Zeta and all that and again I hear people saying
"It wont be built... OMFG! ITS THE ****ING APOCALYPSE!!!!!!!!!"

I guess history repeats itself O_o

rt66er
04-09-2005, 06:57 AM
In case anyone needs further evidence....
http://autodeadline.com/detail?source=&mid=WKA2005040765424&mime=JPG

EdwardC
04-09-2005, 10:48 AM
I have it on good authority that the '06s will essentially be carry-overs of the '05s with a few extra bells and whistles. Expect the SAP package to be more readily available along with 18 in. wheels as standard. A slight tweaking of the LS2 is a possibility but unlikely. Optional sunroof and more exterior color - interior trim combinations will be available.

gtogto
04-09-2005, 11:35 AM
Whatever they do to the LS2, do you think '05 owners will be able to easily mimic the modifications? I hope smog laws won't get in the way.

bigMAC
04-09-2005, 12:17 PM
Whatever they do to the LS2, do you think '05 owners will be able to easily mimic the modifications? I hope smog laws won't get in the way.

If they do anything to the engine, its probably changing the camshaft from the 2001 ls6 cam to the 2002-2004 ls6 cam.

Adam4356
04-09-2005, 01:32 PM
I'm willing to bet the cam gets done. Might as well.

Match a SRT8 charger power rating for alot less money. That adds some spice.

Get that SAP package and 18in in the mix and i think you have yet another model year with some great improvements.

craigD
04-09-2005, 01:36 PM
I hope for hothouse green.That would be my 06 color choice if it would be available.....

jasonblair
04-09-2005, 05:07 PM
I hope for hothouse green.That would be my 06 color choice if it would be available.....

BURGUNDY!!!!!!!!

MikeZ28
04-09-2005, 10:07 PM
I want Polo Green Metallic. Or Magnetic Red Metallic. Or maybe Admiral Blue Metallic (a darker blue, but not so dark as Midnight). I hate to say it but I think the competition has better-looking color options on their cars, and has for years. Most colors GM offers on non-Corvette/non-Cadillac models are either too primary, too bright, too dark, too drab, or just icky. It's like the other GM models get color-penalized because they aren't Vettes or Cadillacs.

GTS_300_Coupe
04-09-2005, 10:15 PM
Hot house green is by far the coolest and baddest colour to choose from.
The GTO would look mad with this imo.

http://img68.exs.cx/img68/3820/hothouse8bs.jpg

TORNATIC!!
04-09-2005, 11:52 PM
I think for '06 they'll just add a couple more options like sunroof, more colors, etc.....

LordGriNz
04-10-2005, 03:53 AM
I still havent seen a Cyclone Grey 2005, but I love the color of those new Gun Metal
BMW's.....that color looks awesome, would look great on a GTO.

FutureGoatHearder
04-10-2005, 05:38 AM
What would happen to the value of ours if they change the style in 08 ?

RobertHammen
04-10-2005, 10:34 AM
rlsedition has said the current Holden platform won't meet new MY '07 crash regulations, thus there won't be a Monaro-based GTO after the '06 model year.

I'm betting on interior changes/improvements and new colors (green and orange).

Way too early to tell about the value of ours. It's worth to you what it would cost for you to replace it...

--Robert

RobertHammen
04-10-2005, 11:21 AM
The Monaro is changing for 07 as well though, who's to say that won't meet crash regulations?

The Monaro _was_ based on the next-gen GTO and to be built here. As well know by now, those plans are up in the air. Holden's making noise about building their own Monaro again, but they need to be able to make coupes on their assembly line (there were no plans as, again, the Monaro was to be built here). It'll probably happen but it's going to take them a year or two to sort out. Means there probably won't be a 2007 Monaro and 2008 is also unlikely (unless GMNA's plans change and the GTO and Monaro get un-frozen and built here).

WILWAXU
04-10-2005, 01:58 PM
In case anyone needs further evidence....
http://autodeadline.com/detail?source=&mid=WKA2005040765424&mime=JPG

Great website!

City Goat
04-10-2005, 02:05 PM
I would just like to see quicksilver with a blue interior option...that would make me get an 06 over an 05.

FutureGoatHearder
04-11-2005, 10:09 AM
Need's more advertising. The Goat doesn't get any here, they still haven't put it in the newspaper yet not even the 2004.

quacktheduck
04-11-2005, 07:22 PM
i emailed pontiac about the changes for the 06 gto and received a reply that nothing has been said about the 06 yet and that I should keep in touch with the local dealers as to order dates and such. I concur though that the green though really different, is actually quite stunning. :thumbs:

mrdoc442
04-11-2005, 09:38 PM
Hmmmmmmm-The same kind of bitch that would grab her crotch and dance around like a #300 pixie at a national sporting event-I think it was the Super Bowl possibly? JWH

BlueGoatFL
04-12-2005, 02:42 PM
"Reed,

Put your mind at ease. There will definitely be a 2006 GTO. A lot of the
rumors you've been seeing are related to plans for the next-generation GTO,
which may be delayed somewhat. But the 2006 model is already in the plan
and should begin arriving at Pontiac dealerships late this year.

Regards,

Jim Hopson
Pontiac-GMC Communications"[/QUOTE]
:D :bubbrub YES!!!

mrgto
04-12-2005, 03:03 PM
The god damn 2006 needs to be at dealers in SEPTEMBER!!!!! with all the rest of the new cars, not DECEMBER half way through the model year.

GM LISTENING? :mad:

quacktheduck
04-12-2005, 04:33 PM
call to the local dealer in torrance got me info that orders for the 06 will be taken in sept-oct and cars will be delivered to fill those orders by dec-jan. I asked about any differences and was told they don't know anything about that yet...either way I think I'm going to hold out for the 06.

Tamatt27
04-12-2005, 04:42 PM
I want a sunroof!
So any news on when they'll release any info on he '06 Goat?

1meangto
04-12-2005, 06:30 PM
Yessir, that one I know for a fact...don't own any LS2 vehicles though, so haven't learned it, all the engines in my possession contain the following displacements as measured in cubic inches:

325
325
346
350
350
350
383



You forgot 502

KillerGTO
04-12-2005, 06:45 PM
I want a sunroof!
So any news on when they'll release any info on he '06 Goat?


The info will not be released until later this summer

COSMO GUY
04-12-2005, 07:50 PM
I thought GM had a 3 year run @ Holden??? What was the concern about 06??? The 07 is the unknown in my mind...Since 07 was to return State side... Zeta dead GMNA..............Coc

LookingForPower
04-12-2005, 08:41 PM
i never knew the 06 was unconfirmed i always thought since the beginning they where doing a 3 year run.

KillerGTO
04-12-2005, 08:43 PM
dont all manufactures do atleast a 3 year run??

mrgto
04-13-2005, 02:38 AM
The problem with this is the fact it's based on the Holden schedule. Australia is a southern hemisphere continent. Therefore, they get their cars out based on THEIR seasons. They can't go in the middle of the 05 run and start making 06s for us because our seasons are reversed. To them, we're the land down under.


Uh? Sorry but I don't think so. New models are introduced in Sept of the previous year traditionally. Seasons have nothing to do with it nor with cars and or how they are buit. And the fact that they make 4X as many GTO's as Monaro's, and the time frame it takes to get the cars here, they should be ramping up production in July and shipping cars in August so they can be at dealers in Sept.

Every other car company in the world can do it but Holden can't? Give me a break.

Odin
04-13-2005, 03:02 AM
Uh? Sorry but I don't think so. New models are introduced in Sept of the previous year traditionally. Seasons have nothing to do with it nor with cars and or how they are buit. And the fact that they make 4X as many GTO's as Monaro's, and the time frame it takes to get the cars here, they should be ramping up production in July and shipping cars in August so they can be at dealers in Sept.

Every other car company in the world can do it but Holden can't? Give me a break.


The think is holden markets its vehicles different in Australia, I suppose all the manufacturers do.(It's a cultural thing I suppose) They focus on model names and not the Year. Ie holden is big on calling the current commodore the VZ commodore. The previous one was the VY. Hell even HSV calls their current batch the VZ series.

Manufacturers here don't bother much with model year to the extent americans seem to do. At the end of each year, they have a big sale in january to sell all their previous year plated stock. To get in new stock built in the new year. The manufactures don't go big on marketing the car as the new 05 Commodore. Like I said they are big on the Model series. Sometimes the manufacturers don't even update the car for the next year. Or like holden sometimes does, they just add a few colours a few features and call it the VY or VZ series II. They don't call it the 05 Commodore.

And another fact is most of the time new models or updated models come in the later half of the year ie july to Sept etc.

Simply put holden markets its cars in a totally different way to the Year system america seems to have. You dont say you have an 04 Commodore SS V8. You say you have a VY Commodore SS. etc

jasonblair
04-13-2005, 09:42 AM
I was watching a show with Jay Leno one time, and he was talking about Dusenbergs. I'm sure I don't have the exact facts right, but he owned a 1913 Dusenberg that was originally built in 1918.

How can a 1913 be built in 1918? Back then, car manufacturers only updated the model year of the car if there was a change to the car. Since there were no chages between Dusenbergs made in 1913-1918, they were all 1913's. It wasn't until after World War II that auto manufacturers created the "gimmick" of a new model year every year, even if the changes were minor.

Like I said, don't crucify me if the years aren't dead on. I'm just recalling what I heard on the show from memory.

b4z
04-13-2005, 10:18 AM
Unless it was a 1913 chassis with 1918 coachwork.
Many times Duesenbeg would sell just the chassis and running gear and the body was built by a coachbuilder.
Happened all the time back in the day.

Sometimes owners would even send their existing cars in for a complete new body.

blushirt35
06-30-2005, 01:03 PM
i know one thing as long as ford puts out the gt, pontiac or gm should continue to produce this car for us gm guys . without this car we guys have nothing unless you can buy a vette and i cant afford that . i would offer the rear spoiler as an option car looks nicer without it .

cali_broker
06-30-2005, 01:32 PM
http://eogld.ecomm.gm.com/NASApp/domestic/proddesc .jsp?year=2006&butID=1&regionID=1&divisionID=7&vehicleID=2533&type=0

cali_broker
06-30-2005, 01:37 PM
any major change shouldn't be arriving till '07/'08 model based on either the upcoming rumor of the ZETA RWD platform or some form of that...and then again that's all speculative

Flashpoint
07-01-2005, 03:33 AM
The think is holden markets its vehicles different in Australia, I suppose all the manufacturers do.(It's a cultural thing I suppose) They focus on model names and not the Year. Ie holden is big on calling the current commodore the VZ commodore. The previous one was the VY. Hell even HSV calls their current batch the VZ series.

Manufacturers here don't bother much with model year to the extent americans seem to do. At the end of each year, they have a big sale in january to sell all their previous year plated stock. To get in new stock built in the new year. The manufactures don't go big on marketing the car as the new 05 Commodore. Like I said they are big on the Model series. Sometimes the manufacturers don't even update the car for the next year. Or like holden sometimes does, they just add a few colours a few features and call it the VY or VZ series II. They don't call it the 05 Commodore.

And another fact is most of the time new models or updated models come in the later half of the year ie july to Sept etc.

Simply put holden markets its cars in a totally different way to the Year system america seems to have. You dont say you have an 04 Commodore SS V8. You say you have a VY Commodore SS. etc


The exotics ie. Ferrari tend to be the same way. a 355 spyder for instance vs. the 360 spyder major changes change the number of the car but they don't make changes every year. Nor call them by year made, except in america.