18" Volk Racing GTC wheels for a GTO?

[DriftGTO]

I have a deal for anyone wanting something different. I have made a deal with Volk Racing to get the 5x120.65 bolt pattern cut for 18" Volk Racing GTC's. These are the best racing wheels in the world. These wheels can't be bought at ANY store!!!! If anone is interested email me and we'll discuss the details. I have 8 sets to sell to finish the deal... Just let me know! Anyone interested in checking out these wheels can go to www.mackinindustries.com and then go to Rays Engineering, then Volk Racing and click on the GT series of wheels.

[miscreant]

I have a deal for anyone wanting something different. I have made a deal with Volk Racing to get the 5x120.65 bolt pattern cut for 18" Volk Racing GTC's. These are the best racing wheels in the world. These wheels can't be bought at ANY store!!!! If anone is interested email me and we'll discuss the details. I have 8 sets to sell to finish the deal... Just let me know! Anyone interested in checking out these wheels can go to www.mackinindustries.com and then go to Rays Engineering, then Volk Racing and click on the GT series of wheels.
Hmmm. 5x120.65 huh? What offsets are you running the wheels?
:bunny:

[DriftGTO]

Hmmm. 5x120.65 huh? What offsets are you running the wheels?
:bunny:

front is a 40mm offset and rear is a 50mm offset. The sizes have been gone through with Volk's research and development team.

[miscreant]

front is a 40mm offset and rear is a 50mm offset. The sizes have been gone through with Volk's research and development team.
Really. Do you think you could get a set cut in 5x120mm (BMW pattern) for my "other" car, or are they only going to be for the 5x4.75" bolt pattern?

[DriftGTO]

Really. Do you think you could get a set cut in 5x120mm (BMW pattern) for my "other" car, or are they only going to be for the 5x4.75" bolt pattern?

These wheels are only for the GTO and specifically cut for the GTO! Sorry but maybe in the future.

[miscreant]

These wheels are only for the GTO and specifically cut for the GTO! Sorry but maybe in the future.
Okay, I'll give in. It's probably just a misprint above, but the GTO is 5x120mm, not 5x4.75" like the F-bodys, etc. So I'd make sure they are cutting them for 5x120mm, or you'll have some unhappy consumers.

[DriftGTO]

Okay, I'll give in. It's probably just a misprint above, but the GTO is 5x120mm, not 5x4.75" like the F-bodys, etc. So I'd make sure they are cutting them for 5x120mm, or you'll have some unhappy consumers.

Actually these guys have already cut a set of Volk Racing TE37's for the Edlebrock GTO for SEMA last year and the guys who cut them say they are 5 x 120.65mm NOT 5 x 120mm. I made sure to specifically ask them.

[miscreant]

Actually these guys have already cut a set of Volk Racing TE37's for the Edlebrock GTO for SEMA last year and the guys who cut them say they are 5 x 120.65mm NOT 5 x 120mm. I made sure to specifically ask them.
Nope, their wrong. You'll probably get flogged for offering wheels in 5x120.65. Use GTO crowd are plagued with wheel dealers who don't know our specs and assume fitments. Too many posts here about people receiving bad wheel fitments!

If they are going to cut them, this would be my educated recommendation

5x120mm
69.6 hub bore (so they are hub centric - or run 72.5mm (BMW bore) and add hubcentric rings this would expand their offering to BMWs)
18x8" front @ 40-42mm offset
18x9" rear @ 53-54mm offset

I run 18x9's in the back at 50mm, and I have to be selective of the tires I use. Yokos or Pirellis at 275/35 will rub the fender. I run toyos and just miss the fender.

[DriftGTO]

I'll email him again to check with his R&D team, but they have made some before for SEMA. I'll take your recommendation... I appreciate the help... I just want to make sure they are doing it right as well. I mean I am getting these wheels for my car as well & want them to be right...

[CSiJason]

120.65mm will bolt onto the car but I wouldnt feel safe driving it hard with the wrong bolt pattern. I would make sure they make them with a good offset and the correct lug spacing to fit without problems otherwise many people wont be buying them. Personaly, I like the Volk GTP myself.

[DriftGTO]

The wheels haven't been made yet I have to have all the sets sold first... I am buying 2 sets and have 8 sets to sell... for a total of 10 sets. I have emailed my contact about the size considerations... I am trying to find out if people are even interested...

[phobos512]

Just another vote for the 5x120 bolt pattern :) We've had this argument many, many times.

[miscreant]

The wheels haven't been made yet I have to have all the sets sold first... I am buying 2 sets and have 8 sets to sell... for a total of 10 sets. I have emailed my contact about the size considerations... I am trying to find out if people are even interested...
I think an approx $$$ is required to generate interest.

[myfirstv8]

I had a set of Volk TE37's on a project car in an 18" and they were in the neighborhood of about 375 a wheel. Volk uses a very good forging process. Volk is primarily an import name, very good product.

[DriftGTO]

Because of the special setup and everything... its approximately 2800 a set... shipped anywhere in the USA.

[TrakDay]

If you can get us a ballpark price it would help. and make sure it is 5x120 like everyone else is saying! Volk wheels are very high quality, ask them if they would cut a single set of wheels...I may be interested in something else and willing to pay. PM me with your contact you have for Volk so maybe I can see about a 1off

[DriftGTO]

They will NOT cut a single set... He says before he'll do anything the factory must have a minimum of 10 sets... He says the factory must make money to break in and do something like this... Being a supervisor at a factory I understand... It costs a lot of money to do special runs for customers, especially small runs like 10 sets. But thats what I am willing to pay for!

[DriftGTO]

The $2800 a set doesn't include special colors... ONLY silver. Special colors is $35 a wheel.

[myfirstv8]

700 a wheel.....phew

[dci67]

Nope, their wrong. You'll probably get flogged for offering wheels in 5x120.65. Use GTO crowd are plagued with wheel dealers who don't know our specs and assume fitments. Too many posts here about people receiving bad wheel fitments!

If they are going to cut them, this would be my educated recommendation

5x120mm
69.6 hub bore (so they are hub centric - or run 72.5mm (BMW bore) and add hubcentric rings this would expand their offering to BMWs)
18x8" front @ 40-42mm offset
18x9" rear @ 53-54mm offset

I run 18x9's in the back at 50mm, and I have to be selective of the tires I use. Yokos or Pirellis at 275/35 will rub the fender. I run toyos and just miss the fender.

I agree with these offsets. If I were to pay that much for custom made wheels I want to get exactly the correct offset. Needs to be 53-54mm in the rear. Remember SEMA cars just kind of sit there to it does not have to be "street" functional like our cars.

[993rs]

Might be a little too ricey, but I really like the TE37s. Used to have an STi, maybe that's why they look so nice...

[Yeller Jakett]

Might be a little too ricey, but I really like the TE37s. Used to have an STi, maybe that's why they look so nice...

Me too. TE37s. I actually asked about these a while ago...Link (http://www.ls2gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107 59&highlight=Volk)

[gordo24fan]

Those rims would be sweet in the gunmetal, but for $2800 a set they can keep them....And I really like their rims. If they get a better price (especially for a group) then they might be in business with the GTO. I don't think most wheel dealers feel they need us anyway as we are a relatively small group as cars go.

[lanceygto]

I like the look of the VOLK Fine Forged Mag Mesh wheels. I have no idea what the difference is between the GTC's and the ones I like other than the GTC's are Aluminum and the GTC's are Magnessium. I wonder how much they would weigh each as compared to the stock wheels. I also like the high gloss black color for wheels. You can't always get what you want; but, it does not hurt to ask.

I could consider going into this GP; but, need more info.

[lanceygto]

Those rims would be sweet in the gunmetal, but for $2800 a set they can keep them....And I really like their rims. If they get a better price (especially for a group) then they might be in business with the GTO. I don't think most wheel dealers feel they need us anyway as we are a relatively small group as cars go.

I agree for the most part. I think they can lower the price for a GP.

I will keep an eye on this thread.

[AMRAAM4]

These are the best racing wheels in the world. These wheels can't be bought at ANY store!!!!

wrong!

[DriftGTO]

wrong!


Other wheel companies don't put much detail into their wheels, they are heavy, unsprung weight is like adding horsepower in some respects... Rays Engineering makes the best wheels in the world! Period! AND... You can't buy the wheels for the GTO in stores yet because they are not made yet for the public... They don't offer that bolt pattern in that wheel, so basically you can't buy them in stores!

The best I can do as for the price is $2400... Silver or gunmetal...

[DriftGTO]

Those rims would be sweet in the gunmetal, but for $2800 a set they can keep them....And I really like their rims. If they get a better price (especially for a group) then they might be in business with the GTO. I don't think most wheel dealers feel they need us anyway as we are a relatively small group as cars go.

Dude I am not a wheel dealer... I am a supervisor at a rug manufacturing facility. We make rugs that you buy at Wal-mart, K-mart, Target...etc.

Best I can do is $2400 in silver & gunmetal...

[zaracsan]

Best I can do is $2400 in silver & gunmetal...

So when you you offered to include others in on your *deal* at $2,800; you were tacking on an additional $100 a wheel; or did you somehow just negotiate a better deal for the group? Since you require eight others sets sold to make your deal happen, would it not be more straight forward (and fair) in a group purchase, just to offer them to those willing to help make your deal happen, for exactly what they cost?

http://e-wheelz.com/media/volk_gt-c_gunmetal_lg.jpghttp://e-wheelz.com/media/volk_gt-c_lg.jpg

While these are very handsome wheels and the quality is certainly noteworthy, they are not exactly the last word in high end wheels IMO. They still remain two piece wheels that they are taking from current production and drilling them in our bolt pattern; and not true full custom wheels. Unless I missed something here, it doesn't even sound like they are offering the correct 5x120 pattern and the question of bore size remians unanswered.

These wheels can be bought for $472 and $489 at ezwheelz.com. I couldn't find a 5x120 offering, but there were 8" +42 and 9" +50 (no +52 or +54 that I could find) wheels in 5x114.3 (Nissan pattern?). At that price, it may cost less to simply have the GTO hubs redrilled and studs pressed in, and the wheel mounting flanges milled to the correct bore size (if possible). Wheel adapters would be another possbile lower cost alternative.

I really do like these wheels a lot; but if I am willing to spend $600 a wheel, then the bolt pattern needs to be correct; the offset closer to perfect fitment, with a bore size that allows the wheels to be hubcentric (i.e. no hub rings required). If I'm going to spend this much, then I would more likely be inclinded to get three piece forged wheels custom ordered to the optimum specs for the GTO.

[gordo24fan]

Dude I am not a wheel dealer... I am a supervisor at a rug manufacturing facility. We make rugs that you buy at Wal-mart, K-mart, Target...etc.

Best I can do is $2400 in silver & gunmetal...

Wasn't a shot at you DriftGTO and I am sorry if that is how it came across. The price just caught my poor azz by surprise.

[AMRAAM4]

Other wheel companies don't put much detail into their wheels, they are heavy, unsprung weight is like adding horsepower in some respects... Rays Engineering makes the best wheels in the world! Period! AND... You can't buy the wheels for the GTO in stores yet because they are not made yet for the public... They don't offer that bolt pattern in that wheel, so basically you can't buy them in stores!

The best I can do as for the price is $2400... Silver or gunmetal...
I know plenty about wheels DriftGTO ;) I have been an avid "wheel junky" for about 10 years now as I have said a couple times here. GTPprix can probably vouche for me from the other site we are on together. Also, my RX7 has ADVAN Siena II's directly from Japan. I am one of only 4-5 sets in the U.S. ADVAN wheels are Yokohama tires wheel division and perhaps just as popular, or more, in Japan than Volk. Volk makes fantastic wheels, however, your comments were a bit outlandish for those reading the thread who do not have much knowledge in this area. Other wheel companies to consider are Gram Lights (also made by Mackin), Enkei, SSR, and Work

You're going to be hard pressed to find a light, quality wheel for the GTO that doesn't cost a fortune. Reason being most of these are from the "import tuner" world and they don't make the GTO bolt pattern or offset specs usually.

The GTCs are generally NOT used for racing due to their weight, (look for Volk TE37's, SE37ks; Advan TC2s, RGs, RC2s, Model 5s, Model 7s, and Super Advan 2s), but your deal is unique and won't be found in stores because you're having them custom drilled.

[sccaGTO]

I know I'm opening the proverbial can of worms here. The 17"x9" F-body rims DO bolt up. I tried it with a Camaro SS rim last week. I unfortunately deleted the photos because the P2754017 tire wouldn't fit on the front. It fit the back well. Stuck out by about 0.5". The only hiccup was the center bore size. The SS rim had a slight amount of movement before bolting the wheel tight. I would have gotten a set, but I didn't want an 8" wide tire on a 9" wide rim.

[DriftGTO]

So when you you offered to include others in on your *deal* at $2,800; you were tacking on an additional $100 a wheel; or did you somehow just negotiate a better deal for the group? Since you require eight others sets sold to make your deal happen, would it not be more straight forward (and fair) in a group purchase, just to offer them to those willing to help make your deal happen, for exactly what they cost?

http://e-wheelz.com/media/volk_gt-c_gunmetal_lg.jpghttp://e-wheelz.com/media/volk_gt-c_lg.jpg

While these are very handsome wheels and the quality is certainly noteworthy, they are not exactly the last word in high end wheels IMO. They still remain two piece wheels that they are taking from current production and drilling them in our bolt pattern; and not true full custom wheels. Unless I missed something here, it doesn't even sound like they are offering the correct 5x120 pattern and the question of bore size remians unanswered.

These wheels can be bought for $472 and $489 at ezwheelz.com. I couldn't find a 5x120 offering, but there were 8" +42 and 9" +50 (no +52 or +54 that I could find) wheels in 5x114.3 (Nissan pattern?). At that price, it may cost less to simply have the GTO hubs redrilled and studs pressed in, and the wheel mounting flanges milled to the correct bore size (if possible). Wheel adapters would be another possbile lower cost alternative.

I really do like these wheels a lot; but if I am willing to spend $600 a wheel, then the bolt pattern needs to be correct; the offset closer to perfect fitment, with a bore size that allows the wheels to be hubcentric (i.e. no hub rings required). If I'm going to spend this much, then I would more likely be inclinded to get three piece forged wheels custom ordered to the optimum specs for the GTO.

The bolt pattern WILL be correct. The center bore will be correct. You are correct in saying that you couldn't find these wheels for the 5x120mm bolt pattern... They are not made for the 5x120... That's what I am trying to get across to people that these wheels are special made for the GTO. The offset wheel be set up for the GTO. The wheel size will be 18x8 front and 18x9 rear. The price you have is an approximate price... NOT the final price. The more people interested the lower the price... the savings will be passed to all that buy.

You can go with conversion hubs, adapters and all that jazz but it will not be a true fittment for the GTO. Which these wheels will be!

[DriftGTO]

I know plenty about wheels DriftGTO ;) I have been an avid "wheel junky" for about 10 years now as I have said a couple times here. GTPprix can probably vouche for me from the other site we are on together. Also, my RX7 has ADVAN Siena II's directly from Japan. I am one of only 4-5 sets in the U.S. ADVAN wheels are Yokohama tires wheel division and perhaps just as popular, or more, in Japan than Volk. Volk makes fantastic wheels, however, your comments were a bit outlandish for those reading the thread who do not have much knowledge in this area. Other wheel companies to consider are Gram Lights (also made by Mackin), Enkei, SSR, and Work

You're going to be hard pressed to find a light, quality wheel for the GTO that doesn't cost a fortune. Reason being most of these are from the "import tuner" world and they don't make the GTO bolt pattern or offset specs usually.

The GTCs are generally NOT used for racing due to their weight, (look for Volk TE37's, SE37ks; Advan TC2s, RGs, RC2s, Model 5s, Model 7s, and Super Advan 2s), but your deal is unique and won't be found in stores because you're having them custom drilled.

You are right about the JGTC race wheels of Work, Enkei and Volk TE/SE37's(Volk, Gram Lights and a few others are made by Rays Engineering and Mackin Industries are the US importer/distributor for Rays Engineering, Espilir, Advan, ARC products and a few other companies...

GTC's are used in racing check out the Time Attack results where Eiji "Tarzan" Yamada won with the Signal Auto R34 using Volk GTC's... But they did use GTC's. Also I can name many Drift cars that are running GTC's for their race cars... I am in no way trying to prove you wrong just trying to get you to understand where I am coming from... All of these guys that make professional race cars are sponsored by the wheel companies and if they told them to put forged or cast ca-ca wheels on their cars.... They would!

Primarily forged wheels are used more for racing due to weight & strength characteristics than cast wheels. I think Advan's forged wheels are great (I love the TCII's and RCII's. So are Work... I love the Emotion CR Kai's) But I am trying to set a deal for the Volk Racing Wheels...

Generally they do not make the bolt pattern for the GTO... BUT they are willing to set up the deal...

Note to all interested... the price set was an estimated price...NOT FINAL PRICE!!! All savings will be given to the consumers... NOT ME!!! If you want them cheaper you guys have to do something a little better than bust my chops about the price. IF I have sets sold and I can get this going I am sure that the deal can only get better! The more sets sold - the cheaper they will be... thats how the group buys works... BUT I ASSURE EVERYONE... the offsets will be correct, bolt pattern will be correct, center bore will be correct...EVERYTHING WILL BE CORRECT WITH YOUR WHEELS...

[AMRAAM4]

^^ You're forgetting a key piece. What face? Face 1's are a flat face spoke. Face 2's are for a much deeper dish and the spokes "bend out" towards the rim. See pic attached, front's are face 1, 19x9...rear are face 2, 19x10. This is a popular Supra fitment as well.

I also would not go less than 10" wide in the rear if I was going custom drilled/offset with these

EDIT: Found more examples for face difference

Face1:
http://www.mvpmotorsports.com/Merchant/vr_gtc_gm1. jpg

Face 2:
http://www.mvpmotorsports.com/Merchant/catalogpics/ mk4/volk/gtc-blk.jpg

[DriftGTO]

I know now EVERYONE wants 5x120mm for the bolt pattern... Help me with the offset & center bore... miscreant you showed me what you thought the offset should be as well as the center bore... please everyone check out what miscreant had to say and let me know if you all agree... This is your chance to setup YOUR WHEELS... DON'T LET ME DOWN!!!

[DriftGTO]

^^ You're forgetting a key piece. What face? Face 1's are a flat face spoke. Face 2's are for a much deeper dish and the spokes "bend out" towards the rim. See pic attached, front's are face 1, 19x9...rear are face 2, 19x10. This is a popular Supra fitment as well.

I also would not go less than 10" wide in the rear if I was going custom drilled/offset with these

EDIT: Found more examples for face difference

Face1:
http://www.mvpmotorsports.com/Merchant/vr_gtc_gm1. jpg

Face 2:
http://www.mvpmotorsports.com/Merchant/catalogpics/ mk4/volk/gtc-blk.jpg

I was planning on going with the face 2's because they look SOOOO MUCH BETTER!

[AMRAAM4]

I was planning on going with the face 2's because they look SOOOO MUCH BETTER!
I would go face 1 in front and face 2 in rear. It is a personal opinion, but I think a deep dish in front is kinda lame. A deep dish in the rear accentuates the look of a fat rim/tire. Not to mention on some vehicles the front brakes are at a different spec so it is difficult to go face 2.

I have done zero reading on the GTO wheel size but I believe it is a 8" wide and +50 offset. If that is the case I think going face 2 and 10" rear will need at least a +52 offset and fender rolling.

[miscreant]

I also would not go less than 10" wide in the rear if I was going custom drilled/offset with these

10" is too wide. 10" wheels do not fit without modifying inside and outside. 9.5" wide is typically a trick, but can be done. There's no reason or benefit for going that wide, because the largest tire you can fit in the rear and still be within norms of rolling diameter is 285/35, and that takes fender rolling. Most people simply go with 275/35 as that's spot on with rolling diameter.

Edit: Deleted second part.

[AMRAAM4]

10" is too wide. 10" wheels do not fit without modifying inside and outside. 9.5" wide is typically a trick, but can be done. There's no reason or benefit for going that wide, because the largest tire you can fit in the rear and still be within norms of rolling diameter is 285/30, and that takes fender rolling. Most people simply go with 275/30 as that's spot on with rolling diameter.

The more you look at this as being 19" fitments, the more you really need it to be 9.5" wide - 9" will work, but 9.5" would be ideal. In that case, the ideal fitment to fit the fenders without rolling would be in the ~58mm range (but still depends on tires of course). However, with that offset, you've got 1.14" more wheel inside, and you might rub suspension and liner. I don't think I've seen any 9.5" wheels fit without needing some fender work.

So all in all, the question comes down to getting 9" wide wheels and squeezing 275/30s on them and having probably zero fitment problems at ~52-54mm offset (still somewhat dependent on tires), OR getting 9.5" wide wheels spec'd at something like ~48-50mm, but having to roll rear fenders.
That's a perfect reason why I haven't gone into a personal thought process of buying wheels for the GTO. From day 1 I appreciated that for once an american car didn't have a 5" wheel gap, but the rear is tight and I knew it would be limited. I was afraid fitment would be limited/pain.

[miscreant]

I know I'm opening the proverbial can of worms here. The 17"x9" F-body rims DO bolt up. I tried it with a Camaro SS rim last week. I unfortunately deleted the photos because the P2754017 tire wouldn't fit on the front. It fit the back well. Stuck out by about 0.5". The only hiccup was the center bore size. The SS rim had a slight amount of movement before bolting the wheel tight. I would have gotten a set, but I didn't want an 8" wide tire on a 9" wide rim.
Noone's questioning that they won't bolt up. 5x120 and 5x120.65 are close matches. And I've stated before that a 5x120.65 with correct hub rings would probably work in 95% of daily use, but I'd never be confident in long term racing a wrong bolt pattern - you're putting a strain on your lugs. But if someone is going to have wheels custom cut and pay this much for them, there's no reason to not use the right bolt pattern.

[DriftGTO]

That's a perfect reason why I haven't gone into a personal thought process of buying wheels for the GTO. From day 1 I appreciated that for once an american car didn't have a 5" wheel gap, but the rear is tight and I knew it would be limited. I was afraid fitment would be limited/pain.

It's not that bad of a problem 18x8 face 1 in front and 18x9 face 2 in the rear... Sounds good... I never intended on going 18x10... 10" is way to wide... I have checked it out and it would have to have about 1" of metal added to the fender to make them fit right... I want direct fittment... With me rolling the fenders is cool but I don't want too much trouble out of getting these wheels then major body work to get them to fit! I already plan on doing a few things to the front but I would like the rears to fit right!

[gordo24fan]

Think 18x9 rears and 18x 8 fronts are ideal. If the price comes down some (not a shot at anyone as I know manufacturer holds the cards) I would be in on a group purchase. I also want to say thanks to Drift for at least stepping up and trying to get this thing going.

[TrakDay]

Let me get something straight here... Is this for 18s or 19s? I honestly htink that 9"rear is fine and I would be plenty happy with a 275 back there.

[miscreant]

Let me get something straight here... Is this for 18s or 19s? I honestly htink that 9"rear is fine and I would be plenty happy with a 275 back there.
Scratch my post. I was just talking 19"s with someone else via IM, and got some info "crossed over". In that case, 9" rear would be fine as 275/35s fit nicely on 9".

[DriftGTO]

Let me get something straight here... Is this for 18s or 19s? I honestly htink that 9"rear is fine and I would be plenty happy with a 275 back there.

18's bro...

[TrakDay]

I would be interested in them if they were 18s and I could get that black finish or dark grey that is pictured above for face 2. Well, it depend on the final price, but I am definately interested...

[MTBDOC]

I would also be interested...so keep the info coming [of course, I will have to go ahead and BUY the goat...]

Gotta get the parts coming!!!

[lanceygto]

According to a post above these wheels are not really used for racing. Why don't we consider to get the best wheel for that purpose?

[DriftGTO]

According to a post above these wheels are not really used for racing. Why don't we consider to get the best wheel for that purpose?

These wheels are a 2 peice forged wheel MADE for racing... Specifically designed for racing...

[DriftGTO]

I would be interested in them if they were 18s and I could get that black finish or dark grey that is pictured above for face 2. Well, it depend on the final price, but I am definately interested...

The gunmetal grey is available with no extra cost... They are 18's... You can get black but there is a $30 each wheel for special colors...

[lanceygto]

What's up this alley? How do these wheels compare with the CC wheels in weihght and construction?