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99z51r
06-05-2005, 09:42 AM
Well I finally had some time to start installing the nitrous on the wife's GTO. Mounted all the hardware and switches first and will do all the wiring once my TPS switch shows up. One question I haven't looked into yet is what is the easiest place to tap into for switched 12+. I was hoping the GTO had an acc. set of wires under the dash somewhere, like the vette.

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LSX Performance
06-05-2005, 09:44 AM
Looks great!

Fast GTO
06-05-2005, 09:46 AM
Are there any kits that are made for stealth? I.E. looking under the hood and not immediately noticing the N02 setup.

99z51r
06-05-2005, 09:52 AM
Are there any kits that are made for stealth? I.E. looking under the hood and not immediately noticing the N02 setup.

I was thinking about mounting solenoids under the rad. shroud and running nozzle under the intake tube to hide everything, and even putting the bottle in the spare tire area, but didn't have the time to do all that.

Eric

justgetinsterted
06-05-2005, 11:12 AM
try the sig lighter in the middle councel

mr2guru
06-05-2005, 01:28 PM
Honestly.....does the wife NEED nitrous? lol

TrakDay
06-05-2005, 03:59 PM
The switch install is very very nice! Cleanest one I have seen so far.

Doc GTO
06-05-2005, 04:20 PM
Honestly.....does the wife NEED nitrous? lol

. . .what? Of course the wife need NO2 . . .when the hubby is at the wheel! :gr_devil:

99z51r
06-05-2005, 06:37 PM
. . .what? Of course the wife need NO2 . . .when the hubby is at the wheel! :gr_devil:

You got that right.... :driving:

Alex04GTO
06-06-2005, 07:04 AM
If you are looking for a 12+ it's right under your switches. You are looking for the one that powers the cigarette outlet. it's good because it is only live with your switch on

Razinhell
06-06-2005, 07:38 AM
If you are looking for a 12+ it's right under your switches. You are looking for the one that powers the cigarette outlet. it's good because it is only live with your switch on
Did you move the traction control button up or is that where it is in Auto's?

rosm187
06-06-2005, 10:30 AM
Did you move the traction control button up or is that where it is in Auto's?



thats where is it

justgetinsterted
06-07-2005, 08:29 AM
is that a purge button between the window and N2O switches....

Muff Daddy
06-07-2005, 09:48 AM
Dayum nice garage you got there. looks like tiled floor and a lift!!! im jealous!!

99z51r
06-07-2005, 01:04 PM
is that a purge button between the window and N2O switches....

Yep, thats the purge, first button is heater then the arming switch. I think I'm putting the bottle opener in the center compartment.

Eric

99z51r
06-07-2005, 01:07 PM
Dayum nice garage you got there. looks like tiled floor and a lift!!! im jealous!!

Thats why when the wife says "I want nitrous" you get her nitrous. then she can't turn me down when I want something for the garage :thumbs:

Eric

05 speed
06-09-2005, 09:12 AM
Hahaha Thats True Nice Work Wat Is It A 50 Shot Or ...

YellowGoat
06-09-2005, 11:19 AM
Beautiful switch install!!!

Can you please tell me where I can order the TPS full throttle switch. I have all of the plumbing done but need the electronic switch as I can't figure out how the hell to mount the mechanical one to make it click at full throttle.

99z51r
06-09-2005, 01:28 PM
Beautiful switch install!!!

Can you please tell me where I can order the TPS full throttle switch. I have all of the plumbing done but need the electronic switch as I can't figure out how the hell to mount the mechanical one to make it click at full throttle.

You can get them from any NX dealer, TBYRNE carries the nx model #15961. You can also find a few other brand of TPS switches on ebay like this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ewItem&category=46093&item=4555267977&rd=1 I've had good like with Dyno Tune products.

Eric

Chivo
06-09-2005, 08:05 PM
cddcddddddddddddccundefinedWell I finally had some time to start installing the nitrous on the wife's GTO. Mounted all the hardware and switches first and will do all the wiring once my TPS switch shows up. One question I haven't looked into yet is what is the easiest place to tap into for switched 12+. I was hoping the GTO had an acc. set of wires under the dash somewhere, like the vette.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y122/99z51r/5cebb 766.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y122/99z51r/19ecf a02.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y122/99z51r/749a0 5e9.jpg

YellowGoat
06-19-2005, 05:13 AM
Thanks for the info!!!!

fratzke7
06-20-2005, 09:54 AM
[QUOTE=99z51r]Well I finally had some time to start installing the nitrous on the wife's GTO. Mounted all the hardware and switches first and will do all the wiring once my TPS switch shows up. One question I haven't looked into yet is what is the easiest place to tap into for switched 12+. I was hoping the GTO had an acc. set of wires under the dash somewhere, like the vette.

Eric.......how come you didn't tell them what you ran yet....Mr. Consistent!! Hey guys this is one of the best Nitrous set ups I have seen...Eric is a perfectionest when it comes to..........well just about everything! :cool: I have seen this in person.....and hopefully by the end of the month he will be doing mine about the same way.......right Eric?? :angel:

99z51r
06-20-2005, 01:32 PM
Finished pic, wired and ready. Decided to just go with a micro switch instead of a TPAS, basically since I was lazy and wanted to get this thing done. Made a little bracket for it and everything worked great.
First time out ran 12.90 @ 110 on a 75 shot, then ran 3 consecutive 12.89 @111's , can you say bracket racer :thumbs: The auto is lot funner at the track than my manual vette, I'm all over the place in that thing. There's more in it but I'm playing it safe with the MSD set at 3000 on, and 5600 off, and it shifts at 6100 every time.

Eric

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y122/99z51r/nitro us3.jpg

Doc GTO
06-20-2005, 07:14 PM
Looking good! If the car is shifting at 6100 wouldn't be better to cut the juice at say 5800-5900 instead of 5600?

fratzke7
06-20-2005, 09:12 PM
Looking good! If the car is shifting at 6100 wouldn't be better to cut the juice at say 5800-5900 instead of 5600?
He could shut it down at 5800 or 6000 those things move in 200 incraments....

YellowGoat
06-29-2005, 07:09 AM
Thanks again for the info on the TPS switch. I got it yesterday. I found me those purty switches that you got there over at Advanced Auto. It installed nicely. I had to drill thru all the way to the circuit board for the power window switch.

I went to the dealership and got me the schematics for the power window switch harness. The Orange one is 12V Switched and the Black one is Ground. I spliced in and VIOLA my little switch worked now I have to hook up the TPS switch if it ever stops raining down here in West Palm, FL.

REgards

99z51r
06-29-2005, 08:30 AM
Thanks again for the info on the TPS switch. I got it yesterday. I found me those purty switches that you got there over at Advanced Auto. It installed nicely. I had to drill thru all the way to the circuit board for the power window switch.

I went to the dealership and got me the schematics for the power window switch harness. The Orange one is 12V Switched and the Black one is Ground. I spliced in and VIOLA my little switch worked now I have to hook up the TPS switch if it ever stops raining down here in West Palm, FL.

REgards

Sounds good, I was a little nervous about drilling through the power window panel as well since it was so thick and right next to the circuit board. I finished everything up this week, bottle opener, and nitrous/fuel pressure gauges. Now its time to get this thing lowered.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y122/99z51r/opene r.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y122/99z51r/gauge .jpg

Eric

YellowGoat
06-29-2005, 03:34 PM
99Z51R,

I ran into a little snag that I am not sure off. I figure since you just did this you could give me a hand. I got the schematic for the TPS and it tells me that I am looking for an orange wire to tap into for the 5V current at full throttle. This is going to sound stupid but ins't the TPS on the Throttle Body? I got 2 plugs going into the Throttle body. The bottom one has 3 wires which is the way it is show on the schematic. The problem is that 2 of the wires match the schematic colors but there is no orange. I just want to make sure that I splice in to the right one and avoid turning this instal into a real cluster f**k.

Thanks!

TrakDay
06-29-2005, 03:41 PM
The Hotness, what a bad ass install man! That looks so good. Now I have an idea where to mount my switches for when I add spray to my car!

YellowGoat
06-29-2005, 03:57 PM
I got one more question. Where did you get the little change tray next to the switches? I just have a drink holder well.

yellow04
06-29-2005, 04:57 PM
I got one more question. Where did you get the little change tray next to the switches? I just have a drink holder well.



lift open your center consol, and look in the very back next to the hinge..... and there it is :thumbs:

99z51r
06-29-2005, 05:13 PM
99Z51R,

I ran into a little snag that I am not sure off. I figure since you just did this you could give me a hand. I got the schematic for the TPS and it tells me that I am looking for an orange wire to tap into for the 5V current at full throttle. This is going to sound stupid but ins't the TPS on the Throttle Body? I got 2 plugs going into the Throttle body. The bottom one has 3 wires which is the way it is show on the schematic. The problem is that 2 of the wires match the schematic colors but there is no orange. I just want to make sure that I splice in to the right one and avoid turning this instal into a real cluster f**k.

Thanks!

You want the bottom plug with three wires and the blue wire is the input signal wire for the TPS. As yellow04 said the change tray is in the center console.

YellowGoat
06-30-2005, 05:08 AM
OK, I just looked at the schematic again and I answered my question about the one wire being the wrong color. I thought that I was looking for a green wire but after a closer look it says GY which is gray. The gray wire is the one that the GM tech told me to tap into but the BU (blue wire) shows throttle position signal. So please confirm that this will work as you obviously have it currently working and will get-r-done today.

I can't thank you enough for the guidance. This is a fantastic community.

Also, in order to knock out my other possible questions, where did you bring the wire from the switch in the car thru the firewall? I assume that if you drilled, you went from the inside of the car thru the firewall to the engine compartment but perhaps there is somewhere that I should fish the line thru w/o drilling. Please keep in mind that I mounted all of my solonoids, relays, and FTS on the opposite side (right on the drivers side wheel well where the stock airbox used to sit.

Thanks in advance!!!!

99z51r
06-30-2005, 06:06 AM
OK, I just looked at the schematic again and I answered my question about the one wire being the wrong color. I thought that I was looking for a green wire but after a closer look it says GY which is gray. The gray wire is the one that the GM tech told me to tap into but the BU (blue wire) shows throttle position signal. So please confirm that this will work as you obviously have it currently working and will get-r-done today.

I can't thank you enough for the guidance. This is a fantastic community.

Also, in order to knock out my other possible questions, where did you bring the wire from the switch in the car thru the firewall? I assume that if you drilled, you went from the inside of the car thru the firewall to the engine compartment but perhaps there is somewhere that I should fish the line thru w/o drilling. Please keep in mind that I mounted all of my solonoids, relays, and FTS on the opposite side (right on the drivers side wheel well where the stock airbox used to sit.

Thanks in advance!!!!

The gray wire is a constant 5 volt, the blue wire is the signal from the throttle position that sends out a voltage as throttle position increases, this is the one you want as it will trigger the TPAS at full throttle. Don't be surprised if you have to play with the set screw on the TPAS to get it to come on at the right spot, they are touchy.
As far as running wires, I ran everything through on the pass. side by pushing the big grommet aside and slipping my wires through. There is a grommet on the drivers side for the hood release cable that actually has an extra hole in it that looks like it would work fine, just make sure to route any wires up and out of the way of any pedals. Make sure to test everything before running it. P.S. did you put TR6 plugs in it?
Any more questions, let me know.
Eric

YellowGoat
06-30-2005, 06:16 AM
Dude, thanks a bunch! I'm glad I asked before i spliced into the gray wire. If I am reading correctly, that would have caused my nitrous to spray as soon as I flipped the switch at idle. Oooooops :).

Thanks for the tip on running the wires thru the firewall. I will follow all of the adjustment instructions to the tee and will post picks of the final install hopefully tonite if the weather holds out. I swear that God meant for f**king S. Florida to be a swamp and no damned corp of Army Engineers is going to keep him from taking it back. I think that we have had 5 good days in the last 2 months.

I'll keep you posted.

Thanks again!!!!!!!!!!!

YellowGoat
07-01-2005, 11:37 AM
I got everything hooked up. Tested all my grounds and all of my power. The instructions for the TPS FTS say to disconnect the solonoids and turn the key to the on position but don't start the car. I hit the activation switch in the car. I turned the set screw like 10 times either way with the throttle in the full throttle position at the Throttle Body and did not get a light. Is there a way to test the wire coming off the TPS to see if maybe it's the switch that isn't working? I don't have a voltage meter, only a test light.

HEEEEEELLLLLP!

My bottle is already full and I just want to squirt it......just a little :gr_devil:

99z51r
07-01-2005, 11:44 AM
Do you have an MSD window switch, or fuel pressure safety switch? You may need to bypass these with a ground if you do.

YellowGoat
07-01-2005, 11:52 AM
Nope. All I got is the very basic setup. Relay, 2 solonoids (fuel, nitrous), activation switch in the car, and this electronic full throttle switch. I'm dying over here. I am a computer hardware guy and I know that stuff that is new in the box doesn't always work. I wonder if there is a way to test the switch.

YellowGoat
07-01-2005, 11:59 AM
bump

99z51r
07-01-2005, 12:08 PM
Who's switch is it? NX or dynotune? You can double check to make sure you have power right at the TPAS switch hot and ground wires, then you could put your tester on the wire going to your throttle position wire. I don't know if 5 volts will light it up or not, but worth a try at wide open throttle. Without a volt meter its tough to tell if its working.

99z51r
07-01-2005, 12:10 PM
PM me exactly how you have your activation switch, relay, and TPAS wired, and I'll see if anything looks out of line.

Eric

JohnnyZ28
07-01-2005, 02:41 PM
I got one more question. Where did you get the little change tray next to the switches? I just have a drink holder well.

I was wondering the same thing. I think he took that panel out from the center console. I use that same holding compartment for my sunglasses as well.

The install looks awesome. I wish I had pictures here of my Camaro nitrous install. I may have them on my car domain website... I can check it out. I used the NX switch panel which looks factory.. its pretty badass. :)

JohnnyZ28
07-01-2005, 02:49 PM
Pardon my crappy cell phone camera pics.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/2/web/ 446000-446999/446919_8_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/2/web/ 446000-446999/446919_9_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/2/web/ 446000-446999/446919_28_full.jpg

And here is the beast. :)
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/2/web/ 446000-446999/446919_1_full.jpg

YellowGoat
07-01-2005, 07:29 PM
Well, I figured out my problem. As it turns out, the crappy line splicer thing that is provided with the Electronic FTS was not making a good contact on the blue wire that sends the full throttle signal.

it's all clicking on now. I just need to figure out the jetting tomorrow morning and it's time to hunt down the guy with the Rousch Mustang that lives around here somewhere. :gr_devil:

odaxium
07-02-2005, 01:34 AM
It's a cover underneath the armrest. Open it up and in the back there's the tray.

99z51r
07-02-2005, 08:27 AM
Well, I figured out my problem. As it turns out, the crappy line splicer thing that is provided with the Electronic FTS was not making a good contact on the blue wire that sends the full throttle signal.

it's all clicking on now. I just need to figure out the jetting tomorrow morning and it's time to hunt down the guy with the Rousch Mustang that lives around here somewhere. :gr_devil:

Glad you figured it out, not sure why my e-mails didn't go through. The jetting for an NX kit is as follows, start small:
50hp= 35 nitrous/18 fuel
75hp= 41 nitrous/22 fuel
100hp= 52/31

Just make sure that without an MSD switch you don't go WOT below 2500 rpm, and let off before you hit the rev limiter, also watch your bottle pressure. I would start with 50 and make a few shots with it and then check the plugs to make sure everything looks good. I have an extra MSD window switch with 3000 on and 5600 off pills that I'm going to be selling if your interested pm me.

Eric

hardcore
07-02-2005, 12:41 PM
Are there any kits that are made for stealth? I.E. looking under the hood and not immediately noticing the N02 setup.

I'm using a compucar Hidden Systems (http://www.compucarnitrous.com/TEST/kits/hidden.h tm), I'd post some picks but there is nothing to see........ :secret:
I went to the track a few weeks ago and no one could find it.
I'm just running a 40 shot on a stock car with nittos and netted a 12.60@110mph

http://home.comcast.net/~LS1Z28/gotimes.jpg

SDB
07-02-2005, 05:20 PM
I'm using a compucar Hidden Systems (http://www.compucarnitrous.com/TEST/kits/hidden.h tm), I'd post some picks but there is nothing to see........ :secret:
I went to the track a few weeks ago and no one could find it.
I'm just running a 40 shot on a stock car with nittos and netted a 12.60@110mph

http://home.comcast.net/~LS1Z28/gotimes.jpg

You ran a 12.6 with just a 40 shot???????????? Does't sound right....stock 04 GTO with nittos shoud run mid to high 13's....40 shot is not going to get you a second in the 1/4! No other mods at all? What is the altitude at the track you run at?

hardcore
07-02-2005, 07:02 PM
You ran a 12.6 with just a 40 shot???????????? Does't sound right....stock 04 GTO with nittos shoud run mid to high 13's....40 shot is not going to get you a second in the 1/4! No other mods at all? What is the altitude at the track you run at?
I ran mid 13's stock.............
sea level


http://home.comcast.net/~LS1Z28/GTO4-16b.JPG

YellowGoat
07-04-2005, 05:23 AM
Yeah, that is a nice short time. I guess the Nitto's make a huge difference. I was only able to cut 2.132 for a short time on my stock street tires. I either got horrible wheel hop or broke the tires loose completely. My 106 MPH time should have put me thru the traps at about 13.0 but because of the short time, my best was 13.48. I have most of the bolt-ons but no dyno tune. I think that all of my mods only got me like 4 MPH. I can't wait to spray the 100 shot on my car. I just need to slip the jets in which I hope to finally do today. Between the move and installing hurricane shutters on my parents house, I have been all tied up.

I really would love to see some time slips for people spraying 100+ into their Goat. I am a little nervous about spraying out of the whole at the track. When I put my car in the air to switch the cat-back I got a really good look at the wimpy axles that hold our tires on. Doesn't look like it would hold up to many 400+ trq launches.

I'll keep you guys posted.

YellowGoat
07-04-2005, 07:20 AM
I put the jets in and noticed that I am not getting any fuel to the solonoid in my wet system. Are you supposed to remove the valve on the rail or should there be something in the nitrous fual rail fitting that pushes the valve in to let the fuel out? Am I missing something?

99z51r
07-04-2005, 07:40 AM
I put the jets in and noticed that I am not getting any fuel to the solonoid in my wet system. Are you supposed to remove the valve on the rail or should there be something in the nitrous fual rail fitting that pushes the valve in to let the fuel out? Am I missing something?

Yes, you have to remove the valve inside the schrader on the end of the fuel rail. It is under pressure so have a few rags and remove it slowly.

YellowGoat
07-04-2005, 03:26 PM
Done! Holy Shit! 100 shot feels really nice. I will be on the dyno by the end of the week hopefully. I will post some numbers as soon as i get them. Thanks again for all of the help 99z51r!

One last thing. Who nows what the jetting should be for 125-150 shot? 100 is good so 125 should be better :)