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RobMichelin
12-29-2008, 07:58 AM
Question for all those out there:

When you say "this tire has awesome dry traction," how do you determine that?

Is it steering feel, precision, predictability, lap time, etc.?

Do you look at tirerack, consumer reports?

I'm trying to figure out how to define it for a project I'm doing.

Thanks for all your help.

Robert




DDS
12-29-2008, 08:06 AM
I buy them and get in the car and drive them.

If they spin at 20 they are not as good as the ones that dont spin at 20.

For the record I do not listen to Tire rack/consumer reports. Cause if I did I wouldnt be in a GTO.

RobMichelin
12-29-2008, 08:11 AM
I agree on consumer reports/tirerack.

GTO wasn't highly rated but I still love the car.

Thanks for the response

Dwil
12-29-2008, 09:39 AM
I'm guessing you're a tire guy so I'm sure you know more about this stuff than most of us but I'll try to help. Your question seems cut-and-dry, but I guess there can alot of ways to determine it.

Q:What does "dry traction" mean to you?
A:Grip, or how well it handles it's load, under acceleration, braking, and cornering.
Basic performance tests can measure this, weather or not I read it in a magazine or online, or perform the test myself.

One basic example I can share is on my daily driven Maxima I put on a set of 350Z rims with Bridgestone Potenza RE040 tires. I can say they offer "greater dry traction" than the stock Maxima tires because I can take turns alot faster and braking performance is better, and I cannot spin the tires as easily. They give me greater confidence in the car in dry and even wet conditions. But boy they perform like BUTT when the temputature drops below freezing, so I put the stockers back on for winter.
Good luck in your project.

RobMichelin
12-29-2008, 10:21 AM
Thanks for your help.

There are numerous tests that can distinguish one tire from another (autocross, lateral g, etc). I'm trying to figure out how a consumer might view it.

Love that color GTO, by the way. That was my first choice.

r0nd3L
12-29-2008, 10:38 AM
To me it's lateral grip followed by acceleration/braking grip.

When buying tires I just look up what are current most popular street tires in autox use and purchase accordingly. Currently, looks like Dunlop Z1, RE-01R, AD07 are most popular and a lot of new ones coming out next year that will probably be even better - AD08, Nitto NT05, RE-11, etc. I will probably end up with NT05s.