View Full Version : Glock 36 Useres opnions needed
hurleymotoxer118
12-31-2008, 03:02 PM
I've been looking into getting a gun and eventually become a carry gun. I love glocks, narrowed my search between a 27 and 36. I got to shoot a 27 and it felt good. Finding a 36 to shoot however is difficult. I am wondering if the 36 rips into your hand (between your thumb and pointer finger) more than the 27. Expecting some due to .45 v .40. I just don't want to get a gun that rips your hand apart after a box of shells, I shot a little kal tek that did that and it was no fun.
TJay74
12-31-2008, 03:07 PM
I have shoot both, I have a 27 and my dad has 36. The 36 seemed a little more narrow than the 27, but other than that there was not much difference to me.
Scurvy
12-31-2008, 03:29 PM
unless you have monster hands, that shouldn't be an issue on any GLOCK. That, of course assumes you know how to properly hold a gun.
If it becomes a major issue you need a pistol with a beavertail like a Sig p220 compact or a 1911.
The only gun that ever bit my hand was a PPK
gametech
12-31-2008, 04:56 PM
Interesting question. Glocks are especially known for NOT being bad about web-of-the-hand ripping. They are actually quite easy to use a very high hold on. On the odd occasion that I shoot a Glock, I usually have both thumbs pointing down the slide.
StormSigma
12-31-2008, 09:44 PM
Interesting question. Glocks are especially known for NOT being bad about web-of-the-hand ripping. They are actually quite easy to use a very high hold on. On the odd occasion that I shoot a Glock, I usually have both thumbs pointing down the slide.
I don't know about all that. A lot of guys I know with larger hands have gotten bit by Glocks they own or have owned in that spot.
Bandit
01-01-2009, 02:15 AM
You'll have no issue.
Plus a .45 isn't as 'punchy' as a .40 is. It's more of a rolling recoil rather than a snapping, sharp recoil like the .40. There is more "push", but it's not as snappy, nor is there as much muzzle flip.
Quantim0
01-01-2009, 06:12 AM
Glocks take a bit of recoil out from the plastic frame too from what I understand. I have big hands, so I prefer the larger framed Glocks, the 36 is too small for me.
IMO, if you are going to carry a small frame gun in .45 you should get a M&P .45 compact or G30. If I had to carry a .45 with under 10 rounds capacity I'd forgo Glock all day long and carry a 1911.
hurleymotoxer118
01-01-2009, 08:48 AM
I am not a fan of the M&P trigger, I have looked and shot sigs, and dislike the double acting single action trigger and I do not want a gun with a flip safety. I like the 30 just don't want a gun that big, that is why the 36 came across because its close in size to the 27. I like 1911's but they are so expensive. I like how Glocks feel and think they make an excellent product.
Scurvy
01-01-2009, 11:35 AM
Glocks take a bit of recoil out from the plastic frame too from what I understand. I have big hands, so I prefer the larger framed Glocks, the 36 is too small for me.
I disagree... the lighter weight of a plastic frame doesn't absorb the recoil. Heavier is better when it comes to dampening recoil.
I am not a fan of the M&P trigger, I have looked and shot sigs, and dislike the double acting single action trigger and I do not want a gun with a flip safety. I like the 30 just don't want a gun that big, that is why the 36 came across because its close in size to the 27. I like 1911's but they are so expensive. I like how Glocks feel and think they make an excellent product.
Get a XD45 compact...
Bandit
01-01-2009, 02:03 PM
I disagree... the lighter weight of a plastic frame doesn't absorb the recoil. Heavier is better when it comes to dampening recoil.
Get a XD45 compact...
Actually, he's right. Heavier steel frame reduces muzzle flip, but polymer frames flex and absorb more of the felt recoil.
Scurvy
01-01-2009, 02:14 PM
Actually, he's right. Heavier steel frame reduces muzzle flip, but polymer frames flex and absorb more of the felt recoil.
I disagree. It takes more force to move a heavier weapon (recoil) than it does to move a lighter one. Therefore when the backwards force is the same, the heavier one has a tendency to move less.
Put a 5lb box on a table and punch it, then punch a 15lb box both as hard as you can. which one moves less?
bondosgto
01-01-2009, 03:19 PM
I disagree. It takes more force to move a heavier weapon (recoil) than it does to move a lighter one. Therefore when the backwards force is the same, the heavier one has a tendency to move less.
Put a 5lb box on a table and punch it, then punch a 15lb box both as hard as you can. which one moves less?
your hand?
there is nothing wrong with getting the 36, i have thought about getting one to complament my 1911. or maybe even the xd
oodn-oodn
01-01-2009, 03:57 PM
I've shot Glocks in both 40 & 45 & recoil of both guns is about the same. I think Bandit states the difference well with the 40 punch vs 45 push.
Quantim0
01-01-2009, 04:05 PM
I disagree. It takes more force to move a heavier weapon (recoil) than it does to move a lighter one. Therefore when the backwards force is the same, the heavier one has a tendency to move less.
Put a 5lb box on a table and punch it, then punch a 15lb box both as hard as you can. which one moves less?
I own a G20 and shoot some nasty 10mm rounds out of it, stuff that is .357 magnum hot, or hotter. The gun's recoil is less then a light .357 magnum load coming from a revolver. Many people who own multiple 10mm guns say that the Glock is the most pleasant to shoot, especially when compared to a 1911 platform. Just heresay, but people seem to think so.
Bandit
01-01-2009, 05:01 PM
I disagree. It takes more force to move a heavier weapon (recoil) than it does to move a lighter one. Therefore when the backwards force is the same, the heavier one has a tendency to move less.
Put a 5lb box on a table and punch it, then punch a 15lb box both as hard as you can. which one moves less?
I know, but you're not looking at this the right way.
The polymer is absorbing some of the "shock" of the felt recoil. So in the hand, it is tamer than a steel gun.
You're really referring to something different.
To use your reference....
Punch that 15lb box as hard as you can.
Now put on a boxing glove and punch it as hard as you can.
Which is less harsh on your hand?
Hopefully that helped put it in perspective.
:)
Scurvy
01-01-2009, 05:20 PM
I know, but you're not looking at this the right way.
The polymer is absorbing some of the "shock" of the felt recoil. So in the hand, it is tamer than a steel gun.
You're really referring to something different.
To use your reference....
Punch that 15lb box as hard as you can.
Now put on a boxing glove and punch it as hard as you can.
Which is less harsh on your hand?
Hopefully that helped put it in perspective.
:)
No, you totally missed the point of my example.
The box is the gun, you punching is the backwards force of the bullet firing. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction so if the bullet fires with 10lbs of force, 10lbs of force gets redirected back at you. Now 10lbs of force hitting a 3lb gun will have a much greater effect than 10lbs of force hitting a 5lb gun. It takes MORE energy to move the heavier object the same amount as the lighter object therefore if the force is the same the heavier object moves less.
There's a lot more to recoil than that but that's the basic physics behind it. My XD45 has more felt recoil than my P220. My xd45 also has less felt recoil when it's packed with 13 rounds than when there's one left, because it's substantially lighter with only one round left.
Scurvy
01-01-2009, 05:21 PM
I own a G20 and shoot some nasty 10mm rounds out of it, stuff that is .357 magnum hot, or hotter. The gun's recoil is less then a light .357 magnum load coming from a revolver.
You can't compare recoil from a semi-auto to a revolver. That's like being surprised that a semi-auto rifle has less recoil than a bolt gun.
toxie
01-01-2009, 05:35 PM
Actually, he's right. Heavier steel frame reduces muzzle flip, but polymer frames flex and absorb more of the felt recoil.
I'm going to go ahead and agree with Scurvy. The weight of a firearm has WAYYYY more to do with recoil then the material (really true since most metal frame guns weigh more then their poly counterparts). Inertia and all that jazz. But, light weight has it's own merits and polymer does too. Zero corrosion FTW!
There is a reason slang (and a brand name) for a bench rest is "lead sled".
Now put on a boxing glove and punch it as hard as you can.
Which is less harsh on your hand?
Hopefully that helped put it in perspective.
A rubber hogue grip, or a limbsaver recoil pad? I'de be right with you there, but if a glock frame is "flexing" enough to make an appreciable difference in felt recoil - then your gun's broken! :).
Back on topic though, I had a G27 and it was a bastard to shoot more then 100 rounds out of. I doubt the G36 is going to be MUCH different. Mine didn't hurt the web of my hand as much as the palm though, for some reason.
hurleymotoxer118
01-03-2009, 04:36 PM
Well, going to go ahead and probably pick up a 36 in the next few weeks and see how I like it, you can never have to many toys....
OnyxY2KSS
01-05-2009, 11:55 AM
I have a 36. Destroys my girly hands after a few hours at the range.
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