17 or 22

[deaner17]

me and my cousin were discussing on what gun was more accurate... i believe the the .17 over the .22 or am i wrong? and what is a good type of .17?

[FullNelson]

http://http://www.varmintal.com/17hmr.htm

http://http://www.varmintal.com/17hmrdp2.png


About 18 inches at 200 yards will definately be an accuracy challenge.

[swmn]

http://www.varmintal.com/17hmr.htm

http://www.varmintal.com/17hmrdp2.png


About 18 inches at 200 yards will definately be an accuracy challenge.


When I removed the redundant "http://" the linkies now workie...

[swmn]

I would think out to 125 yards or so any .17 cartridge would be potentially effective against game up to fox size or so, probably not coyote.

Most accurate is, so to speak, a loaded question. I just bought for my reloading bench this weekend my very own concentricity gauge, so I can measure bullet runout on the stuf I load my self. One of these:

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showprod uct?saleitemid=310955

What I am getting at is no single gun is inherently more accurate than any other. The shooter, the ammunition and the weather are al part ofthe equaion.

That said a lot of folks have a lot of fun with .17 out t 125 yards or so. If you want to get serious about accuracy there are some good choices:

http://www.midwayusa.com/browse/BrowseProducts.asp x?pageNum=1&tabId=19&categoryId=7239&categoryString=652***19785***9016***

FWIW my avatar is .45/70 at 120 yards. wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.45-70_Government

HTH

EDIT: oops. Past avatar, .45-70 Gov't at 120 yards:

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/attachment.php?attach mentid=99793&stc=1&d=1232873440

[swmn]

Among over the counter not custom .17s, I would look at these two first, the US made one will be very good for the price, the Czech one will be very good.

http://www.hr1871.com/Firearms/Rifles/sportster.as p

and

http://www.cz-usa.com/product_detail.php?id=67

I notice on the websaite the CZ 453 in .17 HMR was disco in 2008...

Fun guns though.

[toxie]

What I am getting at is no single gun is inherently more accurate than any other. The shooter, the ammunition and the weather are al part ofthe equaion.

Well, while shooter skill is among the most important part of the accuracy equasion - there are TONS of guns and calibers that are inherently more accurate then another. I don't think thats what you meant tho :).

And yes, generall speaking a .17 HMR will be more accurate then a .22 Mag.

[elf1986]

by experience...putting rounds downrange with several diff models of each caliber. I like the .17 better for shot on shot consistency. But as previously stated many factors play in. Just seems like .17 ammo is a little more precise from the factory (Hornady). One drawback for the .17 is it is very sensitive to wind at over 125 yds. Once you're used to the weapon you shouldn't have as much of an issue with side to side once you learn you're effective range. But on a still day, the flat trajectory of the .17 something to behold. In the hands of a good shooter i've seen kill shots as far out as 250-275 yds. As far as a nice .17 goes my personal fave (i own) http://www.savagearms.com/93r17gv.htm . Just gotta put a little you into the weapon. Comes nice from the factory by all means. But just needs some polishing for your specific purpose. One rough spot I noticed is where the bolt guide meets the actual bolt needs a little file work on some cases. Nothing to extreme just enough to get the carrier to move nice and smooth. And if you're into the camo thing (im not usually) color it up to match your surroundings. (mine sees ALOT of use as close range 125yds on in with some rather crafty animals that can see surprisingly well) Hence why I opted to camo mine myself. (missing is my new optic, Harris Bipod, and sling. this was just a raw pic after paint.)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v616/elf1986/n17 2600262_30352454_2996.jpg

[FullNelson]

^^That camo came out purdy. PM me with a link for a write up, or just what paint and techniques you used.

[elf1986]

i really should make a tutorial about that...was all basic. just that camo paint in the rattle can i think its Krylon camo or something. all the colors. Just gotta do it up to what suits you...like for me...mostly green with "simulated" tree breakup. I will make a tutorial on exact technique...(ill spray something camo for you all. lol.)

[deaner17]

k so one of the local stores is going out of business and they have 2 .17 HMR's on sale

wood for $234.99
synthetic wood $199.99 (plus $25 off)

going to purchase one, but i will need a scope, whats a good one for the .17?

[toxie]

Probably something like the BSA sweet 17 in the highest mag you like (http://www.cabelas.com/prod-1/0037707711761a.shtml). I would buy the cheaper one there unless you like real wood.

[elf1986]

...i have the BSA sweet 17 in 9x. she's a champ. love the "ready made" yardage marks on the elevation knob. Makes for some great on the fly first shots. ALSO make sure you have good rings...un-beknownst to most ppl rings can make or break a weapon with an optic.

[swmn]

elf is right about rings. If the two rifles are same make and model I would save the 35 bucks for the more weather proof unit. Nine power is probably OK at 125 yards unless you are shooting at like golf balls or eggs.

Nine power is some kind of price point in rifle scopes, don't ask me why. Going over usually costs a lot more. Optic glass, like rings, is not in-expensive. You may not get what you did pay for, but you will definitely not get what you don't pay for.

EDIT: How much for one of these for you? http://www.leupold.com/hunting-and-shooting/products/scopes/rifleman-riflescopes/rifleman-3-9x40mm/ It isn't a VX-III, but it is a good scope.