Monaro CV6 (something different)

[Rush Slowly]

Hi everyone,

I have been enjoying this site for a while now. I purchased a new Monaro CV6 in late 2002. These cars are powered by the GM L67 Supercharged V6 engine, along with the 4L60 auto & are RWD. Holden only produced a small number (160 approx') of these cars, & production was discontinued due too lack of sales compared to the CV8 (LS1 model).

But thats fine by me, the car is quite unique, & with a few bolt on's she's good for a 13.6 et @ 101mph.

I love V8's, but have been suprised with how easy it is to make the little L67 get up & go!

Cheers

[04IBM GTO]

Nice car !!

[isszy]

Hey Rush, welcome. Nice wheels. I only have the non supercharged L67 in a Berlina, but I still love it. Brother in law has a supercharged Calais which he loves.

[jagular]

Wow! After having transverse-mounted, FWD GTPs (2), and being very familiar with the L67, it is odd to see it mounted the correct way (with RWD!). I bet you can even change the plugs without rocking the car! Very unusual and very nice!

[City Goat]

Sweet ride man. What do they run stock?

[Cosmoso4]

Can we say Lemans !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That would have been nice to bring over as a cheap GTO. Didn't they do that once before? They did, I remember.

[Rob]

Very nice. I like the wheels. What size are they?

This would make a nice Buick Regal :)

[Roadmaster]

Yeah that is awesome!

It is very strange to see that motor sitting the right way... Might even make the GTO sell better in the US if they had two motor options like this.

[YLDGTS]

The wheels are stock VX SS commodore 17x8 inch's.They were also stock rims on the CV6 i believe.

[FraggerCrue]

Very interesting thread. Thanks for posting it!!

First, any chance they put an intercooler on that from the factory?

Second, anyone thinking what I'm thinking? Take the best of both cars, the LSx + S/C and give us a Judge option in 2006. They already have most of the pieces in production. Go with the M112 (or is there a new model now? seems like I read somewhere that there was). Give us 500+ hp at the flywheel and the ability to change out S/C pulleys for even more.

[Rush Slowly]

Thanks for the positive feedback guys.

jagular: I hate to brag, but yes it is easy to change the plugs ;)

City Goat: Stock they run about a 15.1-15.3et.

Rob: They are the stock wheels & are 17X8, the CV8's have 18X8 size wheels standard. And as YLDGTS pointed out, the CV6's share the same wheels as the Commodore SS. The 2003 model CV6 & SS both had the same wheels as your GTO's.

In addition, Holden has produced plenty of L67 powered Commodores, all have the same RWD configuration.

Dan: I agree 100%.

[Fusebox]

Our family commodore runs that engine without that funny supercharger sitting on top of it :wall:

Funny how empty the engine bay looks when you compare it to one that has the v8 in it... Could possibly even use the extra space to pack a small bag :P J/K

Dont see too many (hardly any) in sydney that are CV6's.

[isszy]

Hey Rush, does your rego start with 'RPE' ? If it does, I saw you in Springvale Road the other night.

If not, I saw someone else in a silver CV6...

[Rush Slowly]

Hi isszy, no that wasn't me, although I do use Springvale road occasionally!

Hey Fusebox, great idea, could be a good spot for the mother in law :thumbs:

Here's another pic guys,

Best Reg's

Mark

[2edybrd]

How much less does it weigh from the CV8?

How does it handle?

[Rush Slowly]

Hey 2edybrd

CV6 weighs in @ 3536 lbs. CV8 = 3626 lbs.

But the position of the short little L67 motor, helps to distribute the weight back towards the center of the car.

I have found the build quality to be 1st rate, & she handles like a dream.

Cheers

[Fusebox]

IF only they came in manual form :(

[Flashpoint]

IF only they came in manual form :(


Those engines don't have a manual option in the states either :bs:

[Alucard]

I have the same wheels on my SS, though I do have slightly bigger engine...:)

[HSV_255GTO]

man even with it bein a V6, i'd still buy one espacially if it ment 5-10 grand off the sticker of the V8 here in the states. sure the V8 is great for its performance, but honestly, i just really like the entire car for its styling, comfort, and build quality. the V8 is just an very nice extra bonus :)


what HP does that engine run stock and what are you running at now?

[Rush Slowly]

Hi HSV 255GTO

The L67's in the states are rated stock at 240hp on 91 octane premium fuel.

Holden rates the same engine at 229hp on our premium fuel which is 95 octane. In addition, due to Holden's RWD configuration the stock Holden exhaust system is much better with twin 2'' pipes & twin 2'' cat's, into a single 2-1/4'' at the back. There is no U-bend like the US vehicles. So it appears that Holden's figure might be a little bit conservative.

Here in Aus' you have 3 choices of fuel in our major cities. They are Regular which is rated at 91 octane, Premium which is 95, & High Octane Premium which is rated 98 RON.

My engine is producing approx' 315hp at the Fly', on 98 RON fuel.

Cheers

[Mynaro]

Hi isszy, no that wasn't me, although I do use Springvale road occasionally!

Gotta love this Internet thing. Talking to guys on a website thousands of miles away and we can still find each other driving on the same stretch of Springvale Rd in Melbourne.

Aint that a peach.

Steve.

[Alucard]

I'm running my car on 95 octane, does that mean if use BP's 98 octane petrol that I'll get more power than I already am (I have upgraded the headers & exhaust)?

[Rush Slowly]

Hey Mynaro: I'll keep an eye out for u. I reckon it wouldn't be too hard to spot u on the road ;)

Alucard: I don't think your engine would benefit from 98 octane unless u get a custom tune!

[danl72]

Nice car. That motor is exactly like the Buick/Pontiac/Chevrolet 3800. The new ones with the supercharger are rated at 260 hp.

[bothred]

Hi everyone,

I have been enjoying this site for a while now. I purchased a new Monaro CV6 in late 2002. These cars are powered by the GM L67 Supercharged V6 engine, along with the 4L60 auto & are RWD. Holden only produced a small number (160 approx') of these cars, & production was discontinued due too lack of sales compared to the CV8 (LS1 model).

But thats fine by me, the car is quite unique, & with a few bolt on's she's good for a 13.6 et @ 101mph.

I love V8's, but have been suprised with how easy it is to make the little L67 get up & go!

Cheers

Yeah, that's what I want, A 4,000 lb V6

[-db-]

Great car.

[VYSHSV8]

I'm running my car on 95 octane, does that mean if use BP's 98 octane petrol that I'll get more power than I already am (I have upgraded the headers & exhaust)?
Yes it will after you run about 3-4 tanks of 98 octane there will be a difference but it does take a while, they have 2 mapping systems programmed into them a lower and a higher for different octane ratings but you will have to run the 98 as said before with out changing to the lower octane and as soon as you change to the lower octane it will read that map again.
But it wont be a huge difference.

[why2kmax]

Wow! After having transverse-mounted, FWD GTPs (2), and being very familiar with the L67, it is odd to see it mounted the correct way (with RWD!). I bet you can even change the plugs without rocking the car! Very unusual and very nice!

Same here, thats really cool.

[RedhotCV6]

It seems that maybe the CV6 will be the rarest of the lot - especially the Series 2. We should club together and keep track of our cars. I have a Redhot CV6 Series 1 - completley stock. I live in Townsville and think there's only one other CV6 in town (Yellow). As an ex Torana Hatchback owner I really like the spoiler on the orange GTO that appears on the top of these pages. Thats one body mod I would do.

Cheers
Hi everyone,

I have been enjoying this site for a while now. I purchased a new Monaro CV6 in late 2002. These cars are powered by the GM L67 Supercharged V6 engine, along with the 4L60 auto & are RWD. Holden only produced a small number (160 approx') of these cars, & production was discontinued due too lack of sales compared to the CV8 (LS1 model).

But thats fine by me, the car is quite unique, & with a few bolt on's she's good for a 13.6 et @ 101mph.

I love V8's, but have been suprised with how easy it is to make the little L67 get up & go!

Cheers

[RedhotCV6]

Apparently when Holden first looked at fitting the Buick V6 back in the late 90's, the American engineers werent all sure that it would be a good idea. Its been very successful and yes, is very easy to work on.
Same here, thats really cool.

[Flashpoint]

It seems that maybe the CV6 will be the rarest of the lot - especially the Series 2. We should club together and keep track of our cars. I have a Redhot CV6 Series 1 - completley stock. I live in Townsville and think there's only one other CV6 in town (Yellow). As an ex Torana Hatchback owner I really like the spoiler on the orange GTO that appears on the top of these pages. Thats one body mod I would do.

Cheers


The orange car at the top of the page is a complete one-off car.

[377Z]

Yeah that is awesome!

It is very strange to see that motor sitting the right way... Might even make the GTO sell better in the US if they had two motor options like this.

I had suggested this and got blasted for it; perhaps I may not have been too clear about wanting it to be a lower line sister to the GTO like a LeMans & not a downgrade to the GTO, though.

I think it would have been a wise choice and significant stride in making this platform a higher volume seller in the US, presuming the other barriers didn't exist.

[booster]

Do you think the supercharger could be adapted for the V8's? Theres one for sale on ebay australia - http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Supercharger-Eaton-M90-Commodore-Holden_W0QQitemZ4578422014QQcategoryZ102360QQssPag eNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Flashpoint]

I had suggested this and got blasted for it; perhaps I may not have been too clear about wanting it to be a lower line sister to the GTO like a LeMans & not a downgrade to the GTO, though.

I think it would have been a wise choice and significant stride in making this platform a higher volume seller in the US, presuming the other barriers didn't exist.


Thing is, this car was never ment to be a high production seller, always was a limited production thing.

[377Z]

My personal opinion is that Pontiac PR had no choice but to spin it that way (meant to be limited) due to circumstances. Pontiac would be far more profitable if it could have utilized this great chassis for other higher volume models in the rest of their lineup that people actually want, all without diluting the GTO model. I am willing to bet that there are people that are well aware of this within GM, but their hands are tied by the myriad of actual reasons why the GTO is imported in limited numbers and with only one option. Judging by the continual emphasis towards commonizing platforms within GM, I have a feeling the next one won't be on a platform unique to it in NA if it is (hopefully) built here. Hopefully it would generate increased sales for Pontiac resulting in profit that could be reinvested into further bettering the lineup. Lather, rinse, repeat. Yes, some will cry that even this dilutes it just like some Corvette people were displeased that the Y body was to be shared with Cadillac, but the Corvette is still as popular as ever, if not even more so, and its not a stretch to presume that some of the capital that went into creating the upcoming awesome Z06 may have come from savings resulting in sharing the platform. I would see it as a wise business move especially in light of Pontiac's current uninspired lineup--besides the GTO & Solstice, I don't see much reason to go with Pontiac unless I don't like the styling of _insert Pontiac model here_'s sister car at Chevy, or want red guages. Its the same FWD/V6/automatic stuff. Remember the outcry over 'corporatizing' powerplants back in the late '70's/early '80's? No one seems to curse that a SBC powers their GTO, and nowadays it would be unheard of businesswise for each division of GM to have their own unique powerplants. Some complain that the GTO is actually an Australian car; I say BFD to them :p because currently it sells well enough for this not to be an issue. Though there still are folks who are dyed in the wool fans of their brand and will buy nothing else, I think their numbers are rapidly dwindling. I think Pontiac would do well to take their good products and 'diversify,' limitation is what could help ensure the line's demise at some point.

To be extra clear: Do I want GTO's to get a cheaper V6 option? Absolutely not. But I would have liked to see another Pontiac model on the same platform, choice of 2 or 4 doors, differentiated from the GTO with facia & trim, drivetrain, (& perhaps even some simple sheetmetal differences) & called something else like Tempest or something. Thus, Pontiac can profit from selling a car with many of the GTO's positive attributes to a wider audience while appeasing the wishes of the GTO customers for uniqueness by not dilluting the GTO model or what makes a GTO a GTO.


IMHO. :wall:

[Rush Slowly]

[QUOTE=RedhotCV6]It seems that maybe the CV6 will be the rarest of the lot - especially the Series 2. We should club together and keep track of our cars. I have a Redhot CV6 Series 1 - completley stock. I live in Townsville and think there's only one other CV6 in town (Yellow). As an ex Torana Hatchback owner I really like the spoiler on the orange GTO that appears on the top of these pages. Thats one body mod I would do.

Hey Redhot CV6

I would love to see some pics of your ride. As for the rear spoiler, I personally think it spoils the clean lines of the car IMHO.

If you are interested in a substantial increase in performance, I recommend changing the Supercharger Pulley to a 3.4'' (10 Psi).

Good luck with your ride man