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Discount Tire
07-16-2009, 04:44 PM
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Continental Extreme Contact DWS
UTQG: 540 A A (All Sizes)
50,000 Mile Tread Life Warranty
60 Day Customer Satisfaction Ride Guarantee

Click here for: Sizes, Specs, and Pricing on Continental Extreme Contact DWS (http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/tires/co ntinental/product/byName.do?tmn=ContiExtremeContac t+DWS&typ=Passenger%2FPerformance)

The Extreme Contact DWS features improved grip and braking in both dry and wet conditions with a unique asymmetrical tread design. This tire includes an advanced tread compound for improved traction in all-weather conditions including snow, significantly improved mileage, and an industry leading level of rolling resistance for better fuel economy.

Benefits:

*Enhanced performance in dry conditions
*Improved water evacuation for outstanding wet handling
*Improved snow performance
*Reduced distortion for enhanced energy delivery, lower rolling resistance and improved treadlife.
*Consumer friendly indicators alert drivers to tires performance level in Dry, Wet, and Snow conditions.

http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/us/en/continental/automob ile/themes/car_tires/performance/extreme_dws_en/im g/dws_uv.jpg

Tread Wear Indicators:

Consumer friendly indicators alert drivers about tire's performance level in Dry, Wet, and Snow conditions.

DW indicates tire is tuned for optimum performance (D for Dry, W for Wet, S for Snow)

When indicators disappear, tire is no longer tuned for optimum performance in that particular road condition.

http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/us/en/continental/automob ile/themes/car_tires/performance/extreme_dws_en/im g/chamfered_edges_en.jpg

Dry Performance

ExtremeContact DWS has a unique "chamfered edge" technology for dry performance. This dry road surface technology generates greater acceleration grip, handling and braking traction in dry conditions. Solid outer shoulder and chamfered pattern edges concentrates on a maximum surface contact resulting in increased traction.

http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/us/en/continental/automob ile/themes/car_tires/performance/extreme_dws_en/im g/dws_water_uv.jpg

Wet Performance

The Continental ExtremeContact DWS has a high void to tread ratio with enhanced groove curvature which improves water evacuation for outstanding wet handling. Void to tread ratio means the amount of void area in the tread vs. the amount of tread pattern making contact with the road surface. This void allows water absorbed into the pattern and then quickly evacuated.



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Snow Performance

The Continental ExtremContact DWS has an excellent grip on snow covered roads provided by the extreme number of biting edges and a new feature "Traction Grooves". Continental Tires engineers designed the extreme number of biting teeth inside the grooves. These biting teeth keep the packed snow from sliding though the grooves adding a grip to an area of the tire. This new feature is unique to the Continental ExtremContact DWS.

http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/us/en/continental/automob ile/themes/car_tires/performance/extreme_dw_en/img/ dynamic_temperature_distribution_en.jpg


Dynamic Temperature Distribution

The Continental ExtremeContact DWS has industry leading treadlife combined with lower rolling resistance and improved energy delivery to the road surface. This outstanding combination of traction, long wear and reduced rolling resistance is accomplished through "Dynamic Temperature Distribution".

(content provided by conti-online.com)

If you are running the Continental Extreme Contact DWS, post your review here along with a picture or two - we (as well as Continental) would love to read them.




Superman
07-18-2009, 06:50 PM
Any opinion of this vs. the new Eagle GT?

Discount Tire
07-20-2009, 10:56 AM
The new Eagle GT is a great tire. I see a lot of positive reviews on the dry handling. IMO, the new DWS will offer the same performance characteristics as the GT, but will have better all season and ride quality characteristics.

GagToe
07-20-2009, 12:33 PM
Group buy?

Discount Tire
07-20-2009, 03:43 PM
We can look into that for you. Anyone else interested?

CARPGTO
07-20-2009, 06:08 PM
possibly interested, I have to put tires on very soon.

wildey475mag
07-20-2009, 07:10 PM
not to piss in anyones cheerios but why put all season tires on this car you gotta be insane to drive one of these in the snow.......:cents:

JonnieDago
07-20-2009, 10:02 PM
not to piss in anyones cheerios but why put all season tires on this car you gotta be insane to drive one of these in the snow.......:cents:

Are you kidding? GTO's are awesome in the snow. You get to drift everywhere without killing your tyres.

DAFFYDRUNK
07-21-2009, 07:13 AM
not to piss in anyones cheerios but why put all season tires on this car you gotta be insane to drive one of these in the snow.......:cents:


I've driven mine through 2 winters on General UHPs that should not be driven in the snow. It's my DD. It got around okay. This year I'm gonna get actual snow tires though as the 17" UHPs are already getting a little long in the tooth at ~20k.

GagToe
07-21-2009, 07:37 AM
I was looking more at the high treadwear, and the comfort of the tires. I've got a set of 19's for looks/turning, the 17's are my highway duty wheels, and in GA I don't see much snow, but I do see 30 degree temperatures.

el Hefe
07-21-2009, 07:43 AM
not to piss in anyones cheerios but why put all season tires on this car you gotta be insane to drive one of these in the snow.......:cents:

:facepalm: Sorry to piss in your cheerios, but the GTO does great in the snow with proper tires. Lots of people see sub 50° temperatures that require an all season even if they are not driving in snow.

trigga1617
07-21-2009, 07:48 AM
^^^Sorry to get off topic but what the hell is that in ur avatar?!?!?!?!^^^

Discount Tire
07-21-2009, 09:26 AM
^
I believe it's a Sloth.

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/set/1478/sloth2 0052small.jpg

el Hefe
07-21-2009, 09:30 AM
lolyea. Sloth in a box.

Discount Tire
07-21-2009, 09:35 AM
Lots of people see sub 50° temperatures that require an all season even if they are not driving in snow.

An ultra high performance all season like the new DWS will do well in these conditions.

pontiacgoat05
07-21-2009, 09:47 AM
i drove it in winter last year and once u get used to it its not to bad and like jonniedago said u get to drift with out wasting tires, by the end of winter i was gettin pretty good at drifting

wildey475mag
07-21-2009, 12:10 PM
lol well with my luck i would drift my sorry ass into a ditch but i can dig it that some guys have to use this car as year round transport, my goat and the WS6 sit in the garage through the snow season which here in ohio is a real hit or miss thing either we get flurries all year or we get a few 12 inch plus dumpings but the salt is always there so the G6 and the 4x4 powerstroke get the winter duties.......as a side not to discount tire......hopefully these tires are a hell of a lot better than the factory cont tires that are on my wifes G6 gt.......i cant wait to burn them off this year they are down right scary in wet conditions.......trying my best to leave the traction control off and eat em up before winter so i can get some better all season performance rubber

CoolJoeGTO
07-21-2009, 12:25 PM
I was just looking at these and I think I like them. My Goat has to endure pretty bad winters. I was thinking about getting some DR's for track day and keeping these tires on for daily driving.

JC07661
07-29-2009, 08:03 PM
Seems the ContiDWS in the above size has a Treadwidth of 8.6". This compares to 8.9 for the same size GoodyearF1 that seems to have rubbing issues. Is it a safe to say these Conti's can be installed on stock 18" wheels in the 245 size?

ruski
07-29-2009, 09:01 PM
lolyea. Sloth in a box.

he will piss in your cheerios

ls2alex
07-29-2009, 09:10 PM
Seems the ContiDWS in the above size has a Treadwidth of 8.6". This compares to 8.9 for the same size GoodyearF1 that seems to have rubbing issues. Is it a safe to say these Conti's can be installed on stock 18" wheels in the 245 size?

that size shouldnt be a problem

dsclark
07-29-2009, 09:12 PM
:facepalm: Sorry to piss in your cheerios, but the GTO does great in the snow with proper tires. Lots of people see sub 50° temperatures that require an all season even if they are not driving in snow.

I'll agree with half of that. All seasons are great when it is 20 degrees outside and the roads are dry. Summer tires can feel like rocks when it is cold.
But, in the snow? If you live where they get high water content snow (not that fluffy crap), the GTO will be terrible. When it snows here, it is often what we call "sierra cement" and it is heavy crap that surprises people with awd. The problem is that you can put good tires on, but you are still limited by the low clearance of the GTO. Hell, I got my audi turbo quattro, shod with studded snows, stuck in front of my house because the snow was so deep!

HillsOttfam
07-29-2009, 09:29 PM
Maybe I missed it, but what speed rating are they? In numbers, please, as I don't want to have to go searching for which z is what. And what's up with that? I've seen z rated tires that were only good for like 134, but others that were good for 172. I don't get it. The Coopers under my goat now are only rated for 134. I know it means that they can run at that speed for 30 minutes continuous before they no longer hold to spec, and can handle a lot higher for shorter periods.

Anyway, sorry to get off topic, but what top speed are these rated at?

BTW--my Coopers have done OK in the snow for the last two winters. They're not rated for the snow, but they do OK as long as it doesn't get too deep. You just have to remember what you're driving and be careful accordingly.

JC07661
07-30-2009, 03:52 AM
that size shouldnt be a problem

Thanks for your input. I am upgrading from stock 17's (no rubbing issues) to stock 18's and would like to keep the 245 size. I just want to be sure they aren't likely to rub.

Expert confirmation from Discount Tire would of course be most appreciated :)

cyplandscape
07-30-2009, 04:29 AM
Group buy?

We can look into that for you. Anyone else interested?

Interested here in a group buy.

Discount Tire
07-30-2009, 10:13 AM
Seems the ContiDWS in the above size has a Treadwidth of 8.6". This compares to 8.9 for the same size GoodyearF1 that seems to have rubbing issues. Is it a safe to say these Conti's can be installed on stock 18" wheels in the 245 size?

This model may run a little smaller than the Goodyears but the only way to tell if they'll rub is by doing a test fit.

Maybe I missed it, but what speed rating are they? In numbers, please, as I don't want to have to go searching for which z is what. And what's up with that? I've seen z rated tires that were only good for like 134, but others that were good for 172. I don't get it. The Coopers under my goat now are only rated for 134. I know it means that they can run at that speed for 30 minutes continuous before they no longer hold to spec, and can handle a lot higher for shorter periods.

Anyway, sorry to get off topic, but what top speed are these rated at?

BTW--my Coopers have done OK in the snow for the last two winters. They're not rated for the snow, but they do OK as long as it doesn't get too deep. You just have to remember what you're driving and be careful accordingly.

Depending on the size, the DWS comes in two limited Z speed ratings, W (168 MPH) and Y (186 MPH).

JC07661
07-30-2009, 11:51 AM
This model may run a little smaller than the Goodyears but the only way to tell if they'll rub is by doing a test fit.

So how would that work if I order online w/ Discount Tire and they don't fit quite right?

Discount Tire
07-30-2009, 12:44 PM
Since the 245/40-18 size is not a guranteed fitment, you can send them back to us for a refund. All the products we sell are backed up with a 30 day customer satisfaction guarantee. We do not want you to keep products that you aren't happy with.

Discount Tire
09-01-2009, 05:27 PM
Bump for reviews

TrekGTO
09-02-2009, 05:44 PM
Looks great what about 18” dia. 12” wide? :cry:

DanMartin
10-01-2009, 09:26 PM
Just picked up a set of 245/40-18s for the goat. Stock 18" wheels, stock suspension.

I'll post pics/fitment and a mini-review sometime next week when they come in. $820 for a set installed with road hazard from America's tire (includes old tire disposal fees, etc).

xp800
10-01-2009, 09:39 PM
An ultra high performance all season like the new DWS will do well in these conditions.

What would be your recommendation for dedicated snows in a 245/40-19 size?

Discount Tire
10-02-2009, 03:02 PM
What would be your recommendation for dedicated snows in a 245/40-19 size?


Dunlop makes the Winter Sport M3 (http://www.dunloptires.com/dunlop/display_tire.js p?prodline=DUN+Winter+Sport+M3&mrktarea=Winter)

http://www.dunloptires.com/dunlop/graphics/Tires/f ull/726_snow_spwinterm3_3qt.jpg


We do not have these instock but can certainly special order them as long as Dunlop has stock(which they did at the of time of this post).

This tire has plenty of siping to provide good traction on snow and ice.

But looking at Dunlops MSRP you could buy a tire/wheel package in a smaller size for less.

xp800
10-02-2009, 08:42 PM
Thanks for the reply. I had the M3 for 3.5 winters on my GTO. I thought they did a good job for handling, but I wasn't wild about snow traction. I tried a set of Nokian RSi, and they killed the M3 in the snow. Turning on the dry was not nearly the same. I am looking for someting for my G8 GXP now.

Discount Tire
10-03-2009, 08:55 AM
Thanks for the reply. I had the M3 for 3.5 winters on my GTO. I thought they did a good job for handling, but I wasn't wild about snow traction. I tried a set of Nokian RSi, and they killed the M3 in the snow. Turning on the dry was not nearly the same. I am looking for someting for my G8 GXP now.

The 18x8 +20 Voxx MG3 fits the GXP so if you want to downsize that wheel would be a good option to consider. For tires, a good size to look into is 235/50-18. Falken just released there new HS439 winter tire in this size and Hankook also builds their W300 in this size as well. Both are excellent performance winter tires.

Voxx MG3 (http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/wheels/v oxx/product/submitProductSize.do?pc=23610&tmn=MG3&typ=Car%2FMinivan)

235/50-17 Winter Tire Options (http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/searchWi nterTiresBySize.do?sw=true&cs=235&ar=50&rd=18)

irvbulldogs72
10-03-2009, 09:13 AM
Just picked up a set of 245/40-18s for the goat. Stock 18" wheels, stock suspension.

I'll post pics/fitment and a mini-review sometime next week when they come in. $820 for a set installed with road hazard from America's tire (includes old tire disposal fees, etc).

Waiting patiently. Oh, and if they do fit, could you put up your alignment specs?

DanMartin
10-03-2009, 08:41 PM
Waiting patiently. Oh, and if they do fit, could you put up your alignment specs?

Stock alignment on stock suspension....not going to get fancy with the alignment until I go through the suspension (hopefully in a few months, $$$ allowing).

StarCaller
10-04-2009, 10:33 AM
50.000 miles warranty?

mulebiscuit
10-04-2009, 11:50 AM
I unfortunately am looking at replaceing the rubber on my goat for the first time this spring 2010. I also looked at these tires at tirerack when they first came out and the long life and all weather tread for a DD is a plus for me. I have considerd these altho thre not bargen priced tires and the free camera promo dosent intrest me in the slightest. I will look again when the time comes I had conti's on my 5 series bimmer and they were nice but I have also had good experiences with khumo's and there alot less of a hit to the wallet.

Crisis
10-04-2009, 01:54 PM
Thanks for the reply. I had the M3 for 3.5 winters on my GTO. I thought they did a good job for handling, but I wasn't wild about snow traction. I tried a set of Nokian RSi, and they killed the M3 in the snow. Turning on the dry was not nearly the same. I am looking for someting for my G8 GXP now.

Even though they say RSi is a all-year-round tire I would not drive it during the summertime. It will last longer as a winter service only, and if you're using them on a GTO or a G8 GXP (any 'performance vehicle'), I'd really suggest a proper UHP tire for the summer to get every bit of performance out of cars like these.

dkaetz712
10-06-2009, 02:46 PM
The 18x8 +20 Voxx MG3 fits the GXP so if you want to downsize that wheel would be a good option to consider. For tires, a good size to look into is 235/50-18. Falken just released there new HS439 winter tire in this size and Hankook also builds their W300 in this size as well. Both are excellent performance winter tires.

Voxx MG3 (http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/wheels/v oxx/product/submitProductSize.do?pc=23610&tmn=MG3&typ=Car%2FMinivan)

235/50-17 Winter Tire Options (http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/searchWi nterTiresBySize.do?sw=true&cs=235&ar=50&rd=18)

Are you sure these rims fit over the Brembo's on the GXP??

Discount Tire
10-06-2009, 03:28 PM
Are you sure these rims fit over the Brembo's on the GXP??

The 18X8 +20 Voxx MG3 will clear the GXP breaks :)

DanMartin
10-08-2009, 12:59 PM
Picked up the Conti's today. Great fit with the 245s. Fills out the wheel-wells a bit more than the stockers.

I've only driven them a mile, but there is a big difference in feel. Steering is lighter (these tires are 6lbs lighter *each* than the stock RE040s), handling is a bit different...not bad, hard to explain.

Full write-up and pics shortly.

Discount Tire
10-08-2009, 05:55 PM
^
Looking forward to your full review! Thank you for sharing.

DanMartin
10-09-2009, 05:03 PM
OK, I've got some pics of the car with the Conti's on (yes, it's dirty...it's been moist here in Portland).

Again, these are 245-40/18s on stock wheels with stock suspension (remember, stock on the 18" wheeled cars is 235-40/18). Tires fit well with no rubbing (so far). As I live in the Portland, Oregon area, I need a good wet-weather tire with decent dry-weather performance. These seem to be the best rated online given these two criteria plus value-for-dollar (always important!).

OK, I'm no reviewer, but I'll take a shot at explaining my thoughts so far. I have *not* done any spirited driving yet, but here goes:

Lighter steering feel...this could be that the tires have just not scrubbed in yet.
A lot stickier around corners and out of the hole. Feels more nimble, but also not as sharp as the stock RE-040s (but in a good way). Let me explain...the stockers had very stiff sidewalls...the Contis will give a bit more from what I feel and what others have said. This is 'different' than the stock, but not 'worse'. Let's face it...the stockers were hard tires...these are sticky and light and (thus far) I feel more comfortable pushing it a bit around corners. I can actually feel the axle pushing me around corners when I get on it instead of over-steering around them (it does not step out, but actually tracks and PUSHES the car around the corner!).

Seat-of-the-pants feel on acceleration is that these tires tend to hook up a lot better than the rock-hard RE-040s, but also feel more 'instant' on the 'shock' when you do a launch. I think this is due to both the weight difference (6lbs less per tire!) and the stickiness of the compound getting a better bite. I've not really tried a really hard launch yet, but I'll push the limits of this area in the coming days and report back.

Overall...these are really great wet weather tires (more on this later next week when the really wet weather shows up in Portland), and a better dry-weather tire than the stock RE-040 tires. I like the look of the 245s (they fill out the wheels and wheel-wells much better IMO and make the stock wheels look cool again), I like the price, and I love the performance so-far and 'feel' of them.

Full rez pictures here:

http://s214.photobucket.com/albums/cc162/dantheman 29a/GTO/New%20Tires/Contiental%20Extreme%20Contact %20DWS/

DanMartin
10-09-2009, 05:05 PM
More pics...

DanMartin
10-09-2009, 05:06 PM
...and the rest of them.

irvbulldogs72
10-11-2009, 08:30 AM
Awesome. I'm sold.

SMTCapeCod
10-11-2009, 08:47 AM
I think I'm opting for the new (again) Pirelli Nero All Season.

Both the Pirelli and the Conit look like they are updating to some of the newer tread designs Bridestone and others have had for a while. For winter, a lot is in the compound though.

I had the Conti tire's predecessor, the Extreme Contact, on my VR4. They were decent for that car as a year round DD in the Northeast, provided better light snow traction than any other all season car tire that I've had, but were a bit noisy particularly as they wore down and of course the greater % void area resulted in a bit less dry traction. All told, they did a good job of doing what they said they would, at a good price. In my book that bodes well for these, too.

DanMartin
10-16-2009, 12:28 PM
OK, got my first real runs in the wet on these tires. They are frickin' amazing in the wet. Great straight-line grip, as well as amazing cornering grip...in a full downpour. You really have to try to get them to let go...and even then it is progressive and controllable.

Only down side I see is the sidewalls are a bit soft...but if you trust the tires, the won't let you down....

They do squeal a bit in the dry...usually on painted surfaces (crosswalks, etc). I don't care, but others might....

Very happy...these are perfect Portland winter tires. Highly recommended.