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midcoastperformance
07-16-2009, 04:36 PM
Hello Everyone,
We are Mid Coast Performance located in St. Charles, MO (30 min from downtown St. Louis). We are currently working on producing a wide body kit. If you are interested please email sales@midcoastperformance.com. Also, we would like to know everyone's likes and dislikes; we will be producing this kit from fiberglass and it will be custom made so the drawing board is open. Thanks, we are excited to receive some input!




FDiesel77
07-21-2009, 07:10 PM
i am interested. one of the to do's on my list. i have anthem motors saved on my phone, too bad they wont be doing this anymore. How much? i have no real objections in regards to the original kit. subscribing

CrAzYGOAT
07-22-2009, 07:29 AM
most people hit the nail on the head in the other forum before this one... make it more compatiable with oem parts like the hood... oh and i think the lower portion of the rear bummper looks a little to much... maybe make it smooth or something like the 05/06 bummper, plus make it to where you dont have to have side exhaust.

CrAzYGOAT
07-22-2009, 07:33 AM
the part with the cutout in the center and the 2 lines going down... i see a lot of ricers and lame ass mustangs with similar looking rear pieces... lets make it a little more original

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1009/1034166427_5f5 2d8869f.jpg?v=0

Oh4GTO
07-22-2009, 08:39 AM
I love th way the W2W car looked. Very subtle and stock looking.

chance575
07-22-2009, 10:06 AM
interested

GagToe
07-22-2009, 11:52 AM
w2w or nothing.

gto32
07-22-2009, 12:53 PM
I Love Everything About The Ra6 Kit. I Would Be Interested. I Was Actually Going To Contact The Makers Of That Kit So I Can Make It My Winter To Project. What Are You Guys Thinking Of Changing On Your Kit?

CrAzYGOAT
07-23-2009, 05:52 AM
case in point... rear bummper

there are many many many more examples on the web but i dont want to flood the forum... yall get the idea

CrAzYGOAT
07-23-2009, 05:54 AM
oh and i think you should some how make the new kit look compatable with the banshee hood... that hood is by far the best looking for the goat

drewbee
07-26-2009, 04:51 PM
There isn't too much difference here, but I love the rear brake vents on the rear and enlarged sideskirts. It does run a little wider on the rear too.

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/attachment.php?attach mentid=110128&stc=1&d=1248374361

drewbee
07-30-2009, 10:50 AM
Also, if you can find a way to replicate our old SAP kit... that will be golden. I love the rear and side skirts on that thing. The front bumper only had an 'extension' as well, so this could easily be made to piece together like you want.

CrAzYGOAT
07-30-2009, 11:09 AM
ugh... sap kit is hidious... its a RA6 replica not SAP replica

ls2alex
07-30-2009, 11:24 AM
There isn't too much difference here, but I love the rear brake vents on the rear and enlarged sideskirts. It does run a little wider on the rear too.

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/attachment.php?attach mentid=110128&stc=1&d=1248374361

i like this one

drewbee
07-30-2009, 11:39 AM
ugh... sap kit is hidious... its a RA6 replica not SAP replica

I wouldn't go as far to call it hideous. Integrate is the key here. I actually love the back end of the SAP, and as you pointed out above it isn't like the lame 3-cutout that you usually see. It's just different.

I actually don't like the sideskirts of it, and the front end is alright. It's an improvement over stock, but could be a lot more of something else...

Kingsize
07-30-2009, 04:47 PM
There isn't too much difference here, but I love the rear brake vents on the rear and enlarged sideskirts. It does run a little wider on the rear too.

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/attachment.php?attach mentid=110128&stc=1&d=1248374361

That looks sick! I would buy that in a second!

mark.b
08-01-2009, 03:06 PM
I have my 04 650 WHP Goat up for sale but it looks like its not going anywhere in this economy downturn. It is for sale because I love the performance but it looks BORING, I will most likely turn this into a widebody this winter so I would be very interested in hearing more about what you are going to offer here. I am also open to you using my car as your prototype if you are looking for a GTO that will match the performance of your kit. Here is a link to the dyno youtube.com/watch?v=LCTvZgR9UAY I can also send more pics, I am very interested in hearing more...

grinner
08-03-2009, 06:36 PM
Let me know when fabrication begins and I'll head out with the camera.
gimma a call
314.265.7293

midcoastperformance
08-18-2009, 08:33 AM
ATTENTION EVERYONE:
Here at MCP we have been discussing the project. We figure that we need about 12-15 GTO owners who can commit to this kit. PM or email us (brett@midcoastperformance.com) It would be great if some of you could provide a deposit. We are not sure how much we will need so let us know what you are willing to spend and we can go from there. Pricing has not been finalized yet; we will let you know as soon as we know something. If you are sincerely serious about purchasing one of these kits PM or email us and we will put you on a list to be informed as we get moving. NO DEPOSIT IS REQUIRED TO JOIN THE LIST. Thanks for all your time and patience. We are really exciting about moving forward with this project.

Decker
08-19-2009, 07:24 AM
the part with the cutout in the center and the 2 lines going down... i see a lot of ricers and lame ass mustangs with similar looking rear pieces... lets make it a little more original

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1009/1034166427_5f5 2d8869f.jpg?v=0

case in point... rear bummper

there are many many many more examples on the web but i dont want to flood the forum... yall get the idea

It's a rear diffuser, get over it. If you understand proper aerodynamics then you know why it's there and it's purpose.

Some of the fastest cars around the Ring use them:

http://www.product-reviews.net/wp-content/userimages/2007/11/car2.jpg

http://photos.webridestv.com/datastore/images/user/ f555a19ea1104d5f6b39c2308b120232/Dodge_Viper_SRT-10_ACR_2008_82196_20080602.jpg

http://www.autodrome-cannes.com/zonda_f_full_rear.jpg

http://autoworld.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/koeni gsegg_ccxr_3.jpg

NC_Shogun
08-30-2009, 12:35 PM
Are they already making this kit now or is it still in the decided process of being made.

sappy96
09-04-2009, 07:47 PM
I am interested in some c/f body kit parts. Won't be able to purchase for a while yet.

midcoastperformance
09-24-2009, 11:46 AM
Hello all,
I have great news! We are in the final stages of planning this kit! I am sorry for the lull in activity in this thread, completing the work on this has been a real hassle and we are in the process of moving our shop. We hope to be rolling out this kit around November 2009. Those of you who are on our list will be contacted in about a week or so with details and pricing/deductible information. Of course, you can still join the list through PM or email brett@midcoastperformance.com Thanks to everyone for their interest and patience with this project.

CrAzYGOAT
10-05-2009, 05:34 PM
It's a rear diffuser, get over it. If you understand proper aerodynamics then you know why it's there and it's purpose.

Some of the fastest cars around the Ring use them:

http://www.product-reviews.net/wp-content/userimages/2007/11/car2.jpg

http://photos.webridestv.com/datastore/images/user/ f555a19ea1104d5f6b39c2308b120232/Dodge_Viper_SRT-10_ACR_2008_82196_20080602.jpg

http://www.autodrome-cannes.com/zonda_f_full_rear.jpg

http://autoworld.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/koeni gsegg_ccxr_3.jpg


oh.... im sorry... lol i seemed to have slipped my mind cuz i see those kinda cars around all the time... sorry my friend but all i have ever seen that stuff on is crappy rice burners. you clearly have made your point but it still dosnt really matter unless your in the pro's... areodynamis that is.

so anyways whats the status on this? im guessing like everone else here it is dead but if yall want some more coustomers then updates would be nice

drewbee
10-07-2009, 02:59 PM
Out of curiosity, how much cutting is expected with this? I can assume the back fenders will be cut to allow a bigger tire slide out of those widened flares? 330's here we come!!

Oh4GTO
10-07-2009, 03:57 PM
Oh wow. This actually looks like it may happen. I havent seen something like this in a long time.

c.nash
10-07-2009, 06:00 PM
I found a site that actually sells the RA6 body kits already, will this be the same and will you be able to buy seperate pieces of the kit?

I really just want the spoiler. lol

midcoastperformance
10-13-2009, 03:15 PM
UPDATE:
We have made with the MCP wide body kit and will be ready to start taking deposits soon. I have a list of those who have previously expressed interest; I need those of you on the list and anyone who still wants to join needs to send me an email address so that we can keep ypu updated with production. The contact information should be sent to sales@midcoastperformance.com.

mirage98
10-16-2009, 12:34 PM
UPDATE:
We have made with the MCP wide body kit and will be ready to start taking deposits soon. I have a list of those who have previously expressed interest; I need those of you on the list and anyone who still wants to join needs to send me an email address so that we can keep ypu updated with production. The contact information should be sent to sales@midcoastperformance.com.

Photos?

Harpo
10-16-2009, 12:58 PM
Guess I'm too late to say the only thing you should is make some Coupe 4 fender flares.

Speedlyte
10-16-2009, 02:30 PM
Interested but need some pics can't commit without pics.

pontiac92gp
10-17-2009, 11:23 AM
Photos?

x2 ..

exco
10-17-2009, 11:27 AM
Hello Everyone,
We are Mid Coast Performance located in St. Charles, MO (30 min from downtown St. Louis). We are currently working on producing a wide body kit. If you are interested please let us know. Also, we would like to know everyone's likes and dislikes; we will be producing this kit from fiberglass and it will be custom made so the drawing board is open. Thanks, we are excited to receive some input!

UMMM I am interested i just posted about this like an hour ago........ I'm looking for someone to do this for me...I actually really wanted the RA 6 package. so i will PM you my number and what not... def want to talk about this.

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3385 65

goatrunner21
11-06-2009, 12:34 PM
so is there any word about this kit or has it gone the way of so many others have before?

Chaser10
11-06-2009, 12:50 PM
Yeah, I am intrigued now... Still no pics, would like to see something...

mirage98
11-06-2009, 01:11 PM
I've been trying to get ahold of someone here for quite some time. They purchased an extra RA6 kit and I was wanting them to mold the head lamp cover (or sell me the one they have if there *new* kit won't need it).

mirage98
11-06-2009, 01:50 PM
UMMM I am interested i just posted about this like an hour ago........ I'm looking for someone to do this for me...I actually really wanted the RA 6 package. so i will PM you my number and what not... def want to talk about this.

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3385 65

Have you considered purchasing a car with the RA6 kit already installed? I know there are a couple out there (including mine ;) )

Just saying you might be able to save some cash overall.

PM me if this intrigues you.

Pucci
11-12-2009, 12:00 AM
So what is the Kit? Do we get to see pictures of it so we can all give you lots of money for the kit we all want?

Pucci

Venom
11-26-2009, 09:11 AM
w2w or nothing.


The W2W fenders do not enable wider tires. After the stock fenders are rolled, the choke point is the rear bumper. The W2W mod does not modify the rear bumper, therefore it does nothing to enable wider tires. The W2W car uses wider tires because of suspension modifications. Unfortunately, I had a freakin' hard time fitting the widest tires possible in my GTO, so that's how I know. I ended up going with custom wheels at 52mm offset if I remember correctly. After thousands of $$$$ I have determined that is the perfect offset :(

I emailed these guys, but I didn't get any response.

Havoc
11-26-2009, 09:40 AM
The W2W fenders do not enable wider tires. After the stock fenders are rolled, the choke point is the rear bumper. The W2W mod does not modify the rear bumper, therefore it does nothing to enable wider tires. The W2W car uses wider tires because of suspension modifications. Unfortunately, I had a freakin' hard time fitting the widest tires possible in my GTO, so that's how I know. I ended up going with custom wheels at 52mm offset if I remember correctly. After thousands of $$$$ I have determined that is the perfect offset :(

I emailed these guys, but I didn't get any response.

W2W's fitment of 19x11 w/305s has little to do with suspension mods, it's the quarter panel work.
http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/attachment.php?attach mentid=115754&stc=1&d=1259260680
http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/attachment.php?attach mentid=115755&stc=1&d=1259260717
http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/attachment.php?attach mentid=115756&stc=1&d=1259260745

Venom
11-26-2009, 09:35 PM
W2W's fitment of 19x11 w/305s has little to do with suspension mods, it's the quarter panel work.


You are arguing with me about something I have personally worked on with my own two hands.

You don't have to show me pictures of the fender work. I already know they modified the fenders.

The fender work has nothing to do with fitting wider tires. The choke point is the rear bumper. They were not aware of this until it was too late, otherwise they wouldn't have bothered with the fenders. They then modified the suspension to fit 305 tires, which is just 3cm larger than the 275s many of us already have on our GTOs.

Think about it, do you think anyone would go through the trouble and hours of work to modify the fenders like that for 3cm? No, it didn't go as expected.

jon6.0
11-26-2009, 10:27 PM
So these guys become sponsors, then don't respond to a thing for a month and a half. Lame.

Silver 05 Goat
11-26-2009, 10:32 PM
id like to see some pics

Havoc
11-27-2009, 08:39 AM
You are arguing with me about something I have personally worked on with my own two hands.

You don't have to show me pictures of the fender work. I already know they modified the fenders.

The fender work has nothing to do with fitting wider tires. The choke point is the rear bumper. They were not aware of this until it was too late, otherwise they wouldn't have bothered with the fenders. They then modified the suspension to fit 305 tires, which is just 3cm larger than the 275s many of us already have on our GTOs.

Think about it, do you think anyone would go through the trouble and hours of work to modify the fenders like that for 3cm? No, it didn't go as expected.

The quarter panel/bumper joint or "choke point" as you call it, has been moved outward a bit. If the flaring was useless, why doesn't everyone with normal GTOs just "modify the suspension" and run 11s with 305s? What suspension mods are you talking about anyway?

Venom
11-27-2009, 11:06 AM
The quarter panel/bumper joint or "choke point" as you call it, has been moved outward a bit. If the flaring was useless, why doesn't everyone with normal GTOs just "modify the suspension" and run 11s with 305s? What suspension mods are you talking about anyway?

The point of restriction cannot be moved outward because it is the point where the bumper fastens to the body. There's a screw there that would have to be removed and somehow relocated to a new part of the rear bumper. Otherwise, to just remove it would cause the bumper to hang down from the back of the car. That's one of the major reasons why we don't have many flare options to choose from. The flares would have to include a rear bumper modification or an entirely new bumper.

Their suspension mods make the car very stiff to prevent the car from squatting. Any one of us can run 11s with 305s...as long as the car does not squat. Riding that car on the street must be like riding in a tank. There has to be almost no vertical movement of the rear wheels.

I suspect the tires still rubs against the bumper, but W2W has denied this. They did say, however, that the suspension modifications were necessary to fit a 305 tire. I still think that if there was someone sitting in the back seat and the car had a full tank of gas, the tire would hit the bumper sometimes.

I know you are trying very hard not to believe me. I wish it wasn't true, but I've worked on that wheel well myself and spent $5k finding the best fit. I made a lot of mistakes; that's how I learned the real problem.

purplenurple
11-27-2009, 04:19 PM
Its funny to see people discuss wide tires with Havoc when they don't know that he's running 3xx's

I've got 285s and its a tight fit. I can see 295s working with cut lips, spaced shock, and more banging on the inside - but I just don't see the room in there for 305s without tubs

Venom
11-27-2009, 10:47 PM
Its funny to see people discuss wide tires with Havoc when they don't know that he's running 3xx's

I've got 285s and its a tight fit. I can see 295s working with cut lips, spaced shock, and more banging on the inside - but I just don't see the room in there for 305s without tubs

Christ. "Did IQs just drop sharply while I was away?" I love that quote from the movie Aliens.

Havoc's method of getting wider tires is from the inside of the wheel. I'm sure he's great at his method, but we are not talking about the inside of the wheel well. We are only talking about the outside of the wheel, where it hits the bumper. Do you comprehend the difference?

Purplenurple, your car is fun to drive on the street, isn't it? It wouldn't be if you had 305s. 305s on an 11inch wheel will fit with stock fenders (lips cut) and a perfect offset (52mm), but it will not be a fun car to ride in. Cut fender lips, harsh drag racing springs with drag bags, and shocks. Very stiff. Hell, if you raised the car just 1", you could put 345s back there. It would stick out and look absolutely ridiculous, but it would work AS LONG AS THE SUSPENSION IS STIFF ENOUGH.

Don't fight with me guys, I'm not preaching witchcraft. I've been through a lot of frustrations learning this; I just don't want someone else to go through the same trouble I went through. If anyone wants fender flares, you must be sure the project includes a rear bumper modification like the RA6, Coupe4, or Justice body kits. Those kits include either a new rear bumper or a rear bumper modification. They understand what I'm talking about.

Havoc
11-28-2009, 09:09 AM
The point of restriction cannot be moved outward because it is the point where the bumper fastens to the body. There's a screw there that would have to be removed and somehow relocated to a new part of the rear bumper. Otherwise, to just remove it would cause the bumper to hang down from the back of the car.

Given all the fabrication and bodywork required to install the kit surely you’re not suggesting they couldn’t manage to move a simple bumper attachment point?!! :scratch:

Here's an excerpt from LS1tech where the bumper joint modification is described: "After this is welded in the rear fascia will have a piece added to push it out from the body and make it match up with the carbon fiber fender, this will move the fascia out for clearance of the larger tire/rim combo. The rear fascia will follow this line and become wider in the back just using some of the flex built into the factory part."


Their suspension mods make the car very stiff to prevent the car from squatting. Any one of us can run 11s with 305s...as long as the car does not squat. Riding that car on the street must be like riding in a tank. There has to be almost no vertical movement of the rear wheels.
Raise springs and drag bags pumped to the moon would be the only way to run 11s w/305s on an otherwise unmodified GTO. The springs and bags would be an absolute necessity because the wheel would stick clear out the wheel well. While there's lots of exposed tire on the W2W car due to the flare design and low offset wheel, the rear does not appear to be unduly raised for clearance purposes... so i'll ask again, what specifically was done to the suspension?

I know you are trying very hard not to believe me. I wish it wasn't true, but I've worked on that wheel well myself and spent $5k finding the best fit. I made a lot of mistakes; that's how I learned the real problem. lol... I'm not trying hard at all and this discussion isn't going to affect my situation one iota! I just don't happen to agree with you based on experience I have with the wheel/tire size in question and being fairly certain of what I’m looking at in the photos. Not to mention this isn’t the only car with flares, a stock bumper, and wide wheels…

Exhibit A: Larger tires (315s), Konis and lowering springs.
http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1872 73

6speedMagee
11-28-2009, 10:04 AM
So this thread went from a possible wide body kit to a wheel size arguement? Damn, i was excited.

NC_Shogun
11-30-2009, 04:48 PM
I email these guys also and got no reponse either, It will really suck if they are not going to do this ra6 project.

drewbee
12-01-2009, 07:39 AM
Yeah, well you know half of these things that come up (power enhancers and visuals alike) are being built by hopes and dreams. It's nice to get hopeful once in a while, but a lot of things are washes, unfortunately :(

Robbins10
12-01-2009, 08:11 AM
this could be sick, photos needed

Slow Ride
12-02-2009, 02:31 PM
bump for an update

GreekGTO89
12-02-2009, 02:53 PM
interested count me in