Installed my Predator today......

[speed_demon_freak]

Its been a pleasure talking to you all about my experiences with my GTO. This car is going to kill me.


All I have to say is OMFG.

I installed it like the directions said and took the car for a drive. It just started to drizzle out by me and the roads were just starting to get wet. My car is like a new machine. The traction control was kicking in when I barely pushed the gas pedal. When the car would shift gears it would jump and it feels like it has a ton of power now.

I need to wait until the roads are dry before I take it out and really step on it.


I would totally recommend it.


:thumbs: :thumbs:

[Dbluegoat]

Its been a pleasure talking to you all about my experiences with my GTO. This car is going to kill me.


All I have to say is OMFG.

I installed it like the directions said and took the car for a drive. It just started to drizzle out by me and the roads were just starting to get wet. My car is like a new machine. The traction control was kicking in when I barely pushed the gas pedal. When the car would shift gears it would jump and it feels like it has a ton of power now.

I need to wait until the roads are dry before I take it out and really step on it.


I would totally recommend it.


:thumbs: :thumbs:

Really that much of a difference? WOW......please let us know how it is when you get to really try it on a dry road.
:D

[sxty8goats]

Anyone have experiance installing this on a M6? Is there much of a diferance? Any proven dyno results? And to top this list of questions, can you install onto multiple vehicles? IE: if a bunch of the chicago area GTO owners got togeather and bought one could we all do our cars?

[ColoradoGoat]

Its been a pleasure talking to you all about my experiences with my GTO. This car is going to kill me.


All I have to say is OMFG.

I installed it like the directions said and took the car for a drive. It just started to drizzle out by me and the roads were just starting to get wet. My car is like a new machine. The traction control was kicking in when I barely pushed the gas pedal. When the car would shift gears it would jump and it feels like it has a ton of power now.

I need to wait until the roads are dry before I take it out and really step on it.


I would totally recommend it.


:thumbs: :thumbs:

Speed_demon_freak, I plan on getting one in June. Installation sounds like it is pretty simple according to the directions, correct? I can not wait to see what it does to improve performance. Let me know your thoughts once you have had a chance to really check it out.

[speed_demon_freak]

Something I noticed about the car, is the fans are running whenever I stop. Weather its for a stop light or just pulling into the garage, the fans are running.


Time for a different thermostat.

[speed_demon_freak]

Speed_demon_freak, I plan on getting one in June. Installation sounds like it is pretty simple according to the directions, correct? I can not wait to see what it does to improve performance. Let me know your thoughts once you have had a chance to really check it out.


It took about 10 minutes to read the manual and install the software. Make sure the headlights are off when you do it. (just some advice).

Whats nice about the tuner is you can get real time data as you drive.

I bought mine from Tbyrne for $377.99 out the door with next day shipping included. I think the sale ends on May 31st.

[ColoradoGoat]

It took about 10 minutes to read the manual and install the software. Make sure the headlights are off when you do it. (just some advice).

Whats nice about the tuner is you can get real time data as you drive.

I bought mine from Tbyrne for $377.99 out the door with next day shipping included. I think the sale ends on May 31st.

Thanks for the info.

[TprGTO-[Robo Fuzz]]

Its been a pleasure talking to you all about my experiences with my GTO. This car is going to kill me.


All I have to say is OMFG.

I installed it like the directions said and took the car for a drive. It just started to drizzle out by me and the roads were just starting to get wet. My car is like a new machine. The traction control was kicking in when I barely pushed the gas pedal. When the car would shift gears it would jump and it feels like it has a ton of power now.

I need to wait until the roads are dry before I take it out and really step on it.


I would totally recommend it.


:thumbs: :thumbs:
Great feedback. You just confirmed for me wanting to purchase this unit.

[Old Goat]

Great feedback. You just confirmed for me wanting to purchase this unit.
I am speechless....what a difference....you have no idea... :eek:

[ZillaGTO]

So when you install this the "base" software it makes that much of a difference or you are tuning it or ? Just not sure. I run something similar on my bike so I am just trying to guage it. Are there "maps" then available based on mods you do such as intake, exhaust, etc?

Darn, I am going to have to get one of these. to the A4 guys, did you adjust your TM? did you also have an after market torque converter?

Thanks.

[Old Goat]

Bone stock except for the T.Byrne/Speed Induction kit. Backed up the stock tune, installed the performance tune. Difference is night & day. More later. I did not get much time before dark to play with it, but it is one entirely different car. YEEHA!

[Old Goat]

Anyone have experiance installing this on a M6? Is there much of a diferance? Any proven dyno results? And to top this list of questions, can you install onto multiple vehicles? IE: if a bunch of the chicago area GTO owners got togeather and bought one could we all do our cars?
No, it locks to the vehicle you install the tune too. If you remove the tune and restore stock tune to that car, it will unlock and be available for use on another.

[Dbluegoat]

I am speechless....what a difference....you have no idea... :eek:


Old Goat your seeing that much of a difference? This whole thread just made it a solid choice for me, I ordered it. :D

[AmesGTO]

A lot of the reason that it feels so much different in an A4 is because they play with how quickly and firmly the tranny shifts. I look at all this as an equation. GM puts the numbers on the side of reliability. You can set these for performance, but you are going to sacrifice reliability. I personally would change these on an auto a little more aggressive, but don't go crazy; its not worth it in the long run.

With the HP Tuners software you can pick something in the middle, I've never seen the preditor so I can't speak for it.

[TprGTO-[Robo Fuzz]]

Is adjusting the tranny shifts going to wear the tranny faster? Any feedback would be helpful.

[mlc]

This may be a stupid question but I didn't see an answer to the question about using this on a m6. Can it and is the performance gain just as good??

[Jodi]

I agree 100% with what you guys are seeing/feeling, especially in our A4s.
If you want to feel something really scarey, bump up the shift firmness about 5% for one quick trip. I drove mine around the block just to see if there was a difference between the stock performance tune and doing some mods to it.
T/C was alive and well, only at about 1/4 throttle! It feels about perfect at
their performance setting. Highly recommended.

[GTOdriver7]

geez, now i want one too

[speed_demon_freak]

To bad you cant record the real time data before the tune and then record it after the tune to see what has changed.

I just wish I was able to drive it more. Its been raining here and the car might be tough to drive in the rain.

[AmesGTO]

To bad you cant record the real time data before the tune and then record it after the tune to see what has changed.

I just wish I was able to drive it more. Its been raining here and the car might be tough to drive in the rain.

Get HP Tuners or AutoTap or one of the million other Windows based software and you can record data before and I after. I've done it with almost all of my mods. When I started I had no idea how to use any of the software. I'm just kind of figuring out things as I go. The logging data part is very easy though.

As for the making the shifting quicker and firmer, think about it something has to give, you don't get performance for nothing. Now maybe there are parts that would normally wear out after 100k miles and now they are only going to last 90k miles, but something has to give. GM doesn't pick safe numbers for no reason they want the car to feel good. They pick numbers for reliability.

I'm not saying don't changing things up. I'm just saying be safe, don't go crazy. You don't get something for nothing. It is an equation where you increase the speed and firmness and you drop the life of parts. You can increase them a little and not drop the life much then it's all good.

Maybe someone with a lot of experience in this can help out.

[speed_demon_freak]

With AutoTap, dont you need a laptop to use it? If so I dont want to spend the money on a computer when I can spend it on my car. :slap:

[DevilYellow]

Any logging would not do THAT much good. I would not trust the stock o2 sensors as a guide for tuning. Wideband is the way to go.

[speed_demon_freak]

What is wideband? Some sort of tuning?

[DevilYellow]

A wideband o2 sensor is what is used on Dyno's and DFI systems. It is pretty expensive and much more accurate than the OEM o2 sensors. Most people will tune their cars on a dyno with a wideband because the WOT A/F tune will not change once flashed. For a forced induction high horsepower application a wideband controller with the wideband o2 sensor would be ideal, however chances are you'd need a DFI anyways that would run from a wideband.

[AmesGTO]

Any logging would not do THAT much good. I would not trust the stock o2 sensors as a guide for tuning. Wideband is the way to go.

I use both the laptop logging and a G-timer. At this point with the G-timer I know what I can do 0-60 and can duplicate it pretty well. I can tell if a mod helps or hurts that. For me it's my "I've got no access to wideband replacement". Also the SS isn't going to do wideband anywhere. I've got pretty good at reading Autotap data. How much the logging helps depends on the mod. For some it helps none, for others it's good.

I'm sure guys that dyno with wideband are laughing at me on this post. But, I'm going for that 0-60 so measuring that is what I care about. It works for me. If I ever made any serious mods like a supercharger I would want it tuned with wideband.

These programmer tunes and tunes by mail I can't decide on. Seems like both give good results. I'd like someone to do one of these tunes and then check it on wideband. I haven't found anyone "in the know" that will say these custom tunes can be general enough for every car and yet work well on every car.

[Old Goat]

Old Goat your seeing that much of a difference? This whole thread just made it a solid choice for me, I ordered it. :D
TM is not gone, but seriously cut down to size, the shifts are quick and firm, all of them, the car lopes a tad more, and when fully warmed up has that purr at idle. It seems much quicker and crisper in response to the throttle, no hesitation, no dead spots where TM would raise it's ugly head and chop the timing. I only got an hour in today checking it out when I went out for gas, then chores diverted me. I'll get some more wheel time tomorrow and get back. So far, to put it in the older terms on the older cars some of us know, it's a lot like going from a 2 barrel to a 4 :D barrel and rebuilding the automatic transmission with a B&M shift kit and valve body.

[Old Goat]

Is adjusting the tranny shifts going to wear the tranny faster? Any feedback would be helpful.
To a point it can only help the transmission. The clutch packs in the transmission are made up of abrasive coated papers and thin steels (floater shims). The less time they spend disengaged and slipping while partly engaged (like any clutch), the better. The damage sliding does is reflected in the mound of metallic gray goop you will find in a tranny pan when changing the transmission oil and filter. The TH-350 I built for the S-10 with a B&M shift kit and valve body is still alive and kicking in the S-10 after about 210,000 miles, and feels the same. Quick, firm shifts. What kills automatics are those gliding smooth shifts and the freewheeling that takes place. Just like a standard clutch and riding the clutch out of one gear and slipping it into the next gear and using the clutch to make the changes silky smooth, you'll eventually fry it. There is such a thing as too much of a good thing as well. Comparing this change in programming with the 4L60-E made by the Diablo performance tune as is, and the manual changes I made in the TH-350, the Diablo tune comes close to the normal driving firm and quick gear changes I had with the built TH-350 and stays that way part or WOT, and does not get to what the TH-350 was under WOT. That shifted like a hammer at WOT and fried the tires through first, patched two nice streaks into second, and chirped them hard going into third, all shifts at 4800 RPM and with a 2800 stall converter. I expect the change to be nothing but good for the 4L60-E transmission,and extend it's life behind the LS1. I have so far observed no unacceptable shift shock to the driveline. I know there are two rubber discs under there and think they'll do just fine. I also know GM built a hefty safety margin into their programming of the torque management and abuse prevention software. I feel the Diablo tune to be an improvement, but still in the green so to speak. I do note a little heftier purr at idle and a little more lope as well, and one hell of an angry snarl from the engine compartment and Speed Induction setup at WOT. The car seems to pull harder. :D

[GTO_Again]

Old Goat - You just got the "standard" performance tune from
Diablo performance ?

[phobos512]

Can anyone comment on how the various tunes are affecting your gas mileage? I have seen talk of it increasing, and heard talk of it decreasing it (either way it won't stop me - I'm just curious).

[Old Goat]

Old Goat - You just got the "standard" performance tune from
Diablo performance ?
Yup. Just the 'performance tune' that came with it. I did not mess with any of the settings or parameters. The ability to edit the provided tune in any of it's variables is provided with the tool. You can edit the tune, save the stock or any other tunes to the PC, work on them hooked up to the PC with a standard serial cable while the Diablo is hooked to the PC and powered off a power pack, etc. I am VERY impressed with the tool and comparative cost. Read EVERYTHING on the Diablosport Site to get a feel for the capability and overall felxibility. If you decide to get one, use our friends on the left margin. Custom Tunes are available on request. :D

[mistermike]

Old Goat, you got that right on the turbo 350. The stock setup on the passenger car units was murder. They actually overlapped shifts to smooth out the torque bumps. A good shift kit would extend the trans life substantially. Torque management eliminated the need for those kind of shenanigans in the quest for "invisible shifts"

[Old Goat]

Old Goat, you got that right on the turbo 350. The stock setup on the passenger car units was murder. They actually overlapped shifts to smooth out the torque bumps. A good shift kit would extend the trans life substantially. Torque management eliminated the need for those kind of shenanigans in the quest for "invisible shifts"
Thanks Mr Mike. Hope you men had a good time on the Cruise? :D

[Old Goat]

Can anyone comment on how the various tunes are affecting your gas mileage? I have seen talk of it increasing, and heard talk of it decreasing it (either way it won't stop me - I'm just curious).
Have to get back to you on that one. I'll probably do a little of both forms of driving tomorrow.

[cjlannoy]

I'd like to hear from someone that has used this on an M6. I doubt it will make nearly the difference described for the A4 but I'd like to know for sure.

[Old Goat]

Old Goat your seeing that much of a difference? This whole thread just made it a solid choice for me, I ordered it. :D
A very big difference if you total all the changes it makes. I would think it would make a big difference at the Strip. The drawback? I had just gotten used to having to find my way around the TM and Abuse (which I believe needed some knocking down anyway) and now I have to discover the changes and learn how to launch it best again. TM and Abuse Prevention are still there, just on Quaaludes... :D

[LiqTenExp]

I would imagine that this would have 1/4 the effect on a M6 since most of you guys are complimenting the changes done to the A4 tranny by this programmer?

[TprGTO-[Robo Fuzz]]

As always Old Goat, your insight and feedback is appreaciated.

[Old Goat]

I would imagine that this would have 1/4 the effect on a M6 since most of you guys are complimenting the changes done to the A4 tranny by this programmer?
I take it most of us auto drivers installed the default 'performance' tune offered by the Predator. I felt it best to start there for me. (It can be edited with the tool if desired). We A4 folks just find the first noticed thing it has done for us is straighten out the transmission shifts and shift points, and the TM retarding the spark at shifts causing the car to 'fall off'. That is a big 'in our face' noticeable change. There is also the deeper idle 'purr', a noticeable increase in the lope at idle at times, and it seems to pull harder. There doesn't seem to be any fall off at shifts, and the snarl from under the hood at WOT is definitely louder and sounds 'better', and I can hear the pipes a little better in the car at a 2,200 RPM 80 MPH cruise in Drive, but still not a drone by any means. On installation you are asked which transmission you have, and I think it alters more than just transmission parameters based on the answer. Sticks and Autos do not tune alike really, whether it be digital or analog tuning. I could not predict the results on an M6. I took a leap of faith when I bought it for the Auto. I am more than pleased. The S.E.G. has gotten a lot bigger... :D

[speed_demon_freak]

I'm waiting for someone to do some dyno runs to see if how much HP is gained.

[FLORIT]

...just on Quaaludes... :D

Dude, that's showing your age. They stopped making Quaaludes decades ago. Damn, those were the days. Here's a story of your tax dollars at work... my Air Force buddies and I used to eat Quaaludes like M&M's and then go out drinking. I don't remember those days, I just remember we did it. :D

[paco04]

Dude, that's showing your age. They stopped making Quaaludes decades ago. Damn, those were the days. Here's a story of your tax dollars at work... my Air Force buddies and I used to eat Quaaludes like M&M's and then go out drinking. I don't remember those days, I just remember we did it. :D
Rorer 714 + Vodka + Gasoline = Sideswipes :sneaky:

[Old Goat]

Okay. I took a little work-in cruise to allow her to get used to her new tune and did some around the town like the other day to see what, if any, effects it had. Zoomed down to Buzzard's Bay after motoring around town, motored around there, and came back. The tranny is still as tight as a bull's *ss. All gears still quick and crisp at any throttle input. The engine sounds meaner at any RPM and has that deep 'purr' modulated by cam lope at idle. It does pull harder to me in any gear. You can also hear and feel the change when the converter clutch locks up getting onto the Big Road. Down and back, all component driving, road & street included, average mileage 22.4 at 61.5 average speed. Held it at 72 +/- on the highway both ways. As she 'learned' average mileage went up the whole way. So, around town, 18.7 now, up from around 16.9 long term average the other day, and on todays total trip 22.4 now, up from 19.7 long term average. The power is there, and now the drivetrain allows it to be employed properly. 3rd to 2nd kickdown for passing squeals the sneakers, 1st to 2nd upshift over half throttle chirps them. Easy applications of the throttle from 60 to 72 do not unlock the converter. A solid push on the pedal does. Downshifts are right there too. It's hard to sort out what to lay to the changes in the transmission controls and what to lay to the engine alone. I'll take a stab though and say the engine is definitely happier and seems more alert for hijinks, and likes to break the tires loose. It sounds like it has decided to work harder and the seat of the pants feels it too. It just does more with less input. The transmission is now out of it's coma, and does what it's supposed to do, right now without the Gremlins interfering. There are enough A4 baselines floating around. It will be interesting to see if I can find a good and reasonable Dyno around her to run some pulls, and another chance to play on the runways at old NAS South Weymouth to see what differences there might be in throwing the car around and 60 foot times.

[GTO_Again]

Hey, thanks for the info the other day and today's update -
This is a long way from swapping power valves in the ole Holly carbs

[Old Goat]

Hey, thanks for the info the other day and today's update -
This is a long way from swapping power valves in the ole Holly carbs
And a far cry from playing with staggered secondary springs on the dual quads and vacuum secondaries and working out the linkage. These days you can do it in a suit and not get dirty! ;)

[paco04]

Okay. I took a little work-in cruise to allow her to get used to her new tune and did some around the town like the other day to see what, if any, effects it had. Zoomed down to Buzzard's Bay after motoring around town, motored around there, and came back. The tranny is still as tight as a bull's *ss. All gears still quick and crisp at any throttle input. The engine sounds meaner at any RPM and has that deep 'purr' modulated by cam lope at idle. It does pull harder to me in any gear. You can also hear and feel the change when the converter clutch locks up getting onto the Big Road. Down and back, all component driving, road & street included, average mileage 22.4 at 61.5 average speed. Held it at 72 +/- on the highway both ways. As she 'learned' average mileage went up the whole way. So, around town, 18.7 now, up from around 16.9 long term average the other day, and on todays total trip 22.4 now, up from 19.7 long term average. The power is there, and now the drivetrain allows it to be employed properly. 3rd to 2nd kickdown for passing squeals the sneakers, 1st to 2nd upshift over half throttle chirps them. Easy applications of the throttle from 60 to 72 do not unlock the converter. A solid push on the pedal does. Downshifts are right there too. It's hard to sort out what to lay to the changes in the transmission controls and what to lay to the engine alone. I'll take a stab though and say the engine is definitely happier and seems more alert for hijinks, and likes to break the tires loose. It sounds like it has decided to work harder and the seat of the pants feels it too. It just does more with less input. The transmission is now out of it's coma, and does what it's supposed to do, right now without the Gremlins interfering. There are enough A4 baselines floating around. It will be interesting to see if I can find a good and reasonable Dyno around her to run some pulls, and another chance to play on the runways at old NAS South Weymouth to see what differences there might be in throwing the car around and 60 foot times.
Hey OG, are you in Drive or 3 when in town? What does the 4-3 downshift
act like? When in Drive under easy pedal around town, does it go into 4th
right away, or stay in the power gears longer?
Thanks for the report posts, they are much appreciated. Thanks! :thumbs:

[Old Goat]

Hey OG, are you in Drive or 3 when in town? What does the 4-3 downshift
act like? When in Drive under easy pedal around town, does it go into 4th
right away, or stay in the power gears longer?
Thanks for the report posts, they are much appreciated. Thanks! :thumbs:
The other day, I motored around in 3 (force of habit to get around the TM & Abuse Gremilns) and T/C off. All shifts were just what I wanted, including a nearly silent little chirp going from 1 to 2 at gentle throttle... :D
Around town today I used D to get out to the big road and left T/C on, I believe the shifts up to fourth were delayed, in fact all gears seem to be a tad delayed at cracked throttle up to 35 +/- MPH around town compared to before tune, I eased off the pedal to speed match traffic and then it would go to fourth. I cannot remember feeling the converter lockup, but think I heard it once (RPM drop at about 40). Coming off the highway today, and dropping to 3rd for the ramp was immediate, almost feels like a stick only a little gentler. Command shifting up and down is different and more immediate, there is almost no hesitation at all. Hope this helps...

[paco04]

The other day, I motored around in 3 (force of habit to get around the TM & Abuse Gremilns) and T/C off. All shifts were just what I wanted, including a nearly silent little chirp going from 1 to 2 at gentle throttle... :D
Around town today I used D to get out to the big road and left T/C on, I believe the shifts up to fourth were delayed, in fact all gears seem to be a tad delayed at cracked throttle up to 35 +/- MPH around town compared to before tune, I eased off the pedal to speed match traffic and then it would go to fourth. I cannot remember feeling the converter lockup, but think I heard it once (RPM drop at about 40). Coming off the highway today, and dropping to 3rd for the ramp was immediate, almost feels like a stick only a little gentler. Command shifting up and down is different and more immediate, there is almost no hesitation at all. Hope this helps...
It does. That's what I wanted to hear. Thanks again.

[Old Goat]

It does. That's what I wanted to hear. Thanks again.
My pleasure...and boy, am I having fun... Have I said I LOVE this car? ;)

[Hardware]

Is the predator still on Sale? anybody know?. after readin this, it sounds real good.

[T.Vick]

I too decided to order one after reading all the good things that have been said about it. I ordered it online from TByrne at about 11:00 last night. They said they would still honor the 10% discounted price and free shipping for the order. I did still have an hour till the end of the month...

I guess all you can do is ask. They did say they were out of stock and hoped to have more in and be able to ship mine by the end of the week.

[Old Goat]

Dude, that's showing your age. They stopped making Quaaludes decades ago. Damn, those were the days. Here's a story of your tax dollars at work... my Air Force buddies and I used to eat Quaaludes like M&M's and then go out drinking. I don't remember those days, I just remember we did it. :D
I remember seeing folks like sleepwalkers back then. A lot of folks did a lot of things. Thankfully, most grew out of it all unharmed. Never did myself, beer was my indiscretion of choice....and a few Rum & Cokes at times... :D

[Old Goat]

I too decided to order one after reading all the good things that have been said about it. I ordered it online from TByrne at about 11:00 last night. They said they would still honor the 10% discounted price and free shipping for the order. I did still have an hour till the end of the month...

I guess all you can do is ask. They did say they were out of stock and hoped to have more in and be able to ship mine by the end of the week.
Wow! There was more than a few when I picked up mine on Friday. A few folks on this board were probably quicker on the draw.... :sneaky:

[Dbluegoat]

I too decided to order one after reading all the good things that have been said about it. I ordered it online from TByrne at about 11:00 last night. They said they would still honor the 10% discounted price and free shipping for the order. I did still have an hour till the end of the month...

I guess all you can do is ask. They did say they were out of stock and hoped to have more in and be able to ship mine by the end of the week.

I ordered online sunday and was told yesterday they will have a new shipment by the middle of next week...........ughhh....

[ZillaGTO]

I ordered one too. shipped out yesterday. Fast on the draw!

[Hardware]

I just ordered mine this Morning...... looks like i'll get it next week. Lookin fwd to gettin to the track with it installed.

[Tigger]

To reiterate a question posted earlier, has anybody installed a Predator on an M6? If so, I'd like to hear opinions about it.

[ZillaGTO]

Question for those who installed it. I am reading through the manual and notice it shows several tune choices. Stock Tune, Tow, Std Performance, Hi performance and extreme performance.

I am guessing from what I have read you are all installing std performance correct?

Thanks.

[Old Goat]

Question for those who installed it. I am reading through the manual and notice it shows several tune choices. Stock Tune, Tow, Std Performance, Hi performance and extreme performance.

I am guessing from what I have read you are all installing std performance correct?

Thanks.
The GTO Predator comes with Stock, Performance, and Diagnostic options, go for the Performance Tune. ;) If it tries to install the Stock Tune, back up using the escape key and make sure you have highlighted the right option before proceeding. Be careful, be patient, and read everything. At the end, when all is said and done. Key off and disconnect before firing the motor.

[ZillaGTO]

Thanks. It is coming today and I have been reading the PDF manual I downloaded from the site.

I am excited, I can tell you!

[Old Goat]

Thanks. It is coming today and I have been reading the PDF manual I downloaded from the site.

I am excited, I can tell you!
There is a newer manual posted for the new Predator on their Site. Takes a little looking to find it. I think you were looking at last years with the extra options. There is a booklet with it. ;) Wait'll you see the difference! :D

[Dbluegoat]

There is a newer manual posted for the new Predator on their Site. Takes a little looking to find it. I think you were looking at last years with the extra options. There is a booklet with it. ;) Wait'll you see the difference! :D


Hey Old Goat whats the website?

thanks
:D

[Old Goat]

Hey Old Goat whats the website?

thanks
:D
http://www.diablosport.com/U7193.php...

[morto]

To reiterate a question posted earlier, has anybody installed a Predator on an M6? If so, I'd like to hear opinions about it.

I installed the performance tune on my M6 about 600 miles ago. Runs great, feels like more power across all rpm. Idle response seems better. Gets rid of CAGS and lowers fan temp as well. Ran a 5.4 0 to 60 on my vtech. Best before that was 5.53.

[ZillaGTO]

Got it today. Installed it, which is really easy. Drove it around and I am impressed as heck. It feels great all around and sounds great too.

I can't wait to drive it more. But it really can burn the tires now. Even stomp it while driving and when it kicks down it will chirp em. Fun stuff.

I love this car.

[TprGTO-[Robo Fuzz]]

I just ordered my Predator programmer. I am excited and can't wait to program my car.

[Dbluegoat]

I just ordered my Predator programmer. I am excited and can't wait to program my car.


Congrats!!! I ordered mine last week.....its supposed to come this week, they were out of stock.

Let us know how it works for you.

[ZillaGTO]

I have been driving it quite a bit since I posted last. This is the real deal! It sounds and looks great. It really goes! It sounds better and shifts like it means it. I had the air on, T/C on and left the lights at half throttle and it spun and then chirped into 2nd. It really gets looks now because of the sound.

I love this car!

[Dbluegoat]

I have been driving it quite a bit since I posted last. This is the real deal! It sounds and looks great. It really goes! It sounds better and shifts like it means it. I had the air on, T/C on and left the lights at half throttle and it spun and then chirped into 2nd. It really gets looks now because of the sound.

I love this car!


It really sounds louder? Cooolll....I can't wait for mine to get here......Are you losing any gas mileage?

[TprGTO-[Robo Fuzz]]

For those that have driven a GTO with the M6, and utilized the Predator on their A4, would you say that the performance is equal between the A4 and the M6?

[TprGTO-[Robo Fuzz]]

I just got off the phone with TByrne. They stated they are are backordered, and I will have to wait 3 to 4 weeks until they come in. This really sucks!!!!

[Dbluegoat]

I just got off the phone with TByrne. They stated they are are backordered, and I will have to wait 3 to 4 weeks until they come in. This really sucks!!!!
When did you order it? Sh!t I ordered mine last week and they told me middle of this week they would have another shipment.....if I have to wait 3 more weeks I am getting a refund and order it elswhere.........

[TprGTO-[Robo Fuzz]]

When did you order it? Sh!t I ordered mine last week and they told me middle of this week they would have another shipment.....if I have to wait 3 more weeks I am getting a refund and order it elswhere.........
I ordered online last night, but called this morning to speak to a sales rep.

[Dbluegoat]

I ordered online last night, but called this morning to speak to a sales rep.

You know I think these vendors should clearly state on the site if a product is on backorder or they are out of stock.....Some people (like me) have no patience. I would rather spend a couple extra bucks and get it NOW

[tiggerfan]

You know I think these vendors should clearly state on the site if a product is on backorder or they are out of stock.....Some people (like me) have no patience. I would rather spend a couple extra bucks and get it NOW

My HPTuners shows up this week. Could always come down and play :)

[TprGTO-[Robo Fuzz]]

You know I think these vendors should clearly state on the site if a product is on backorder or they are out of stock.....Some people (like me) have no patience. I would rather spend a couple extra bucks and get it NOW
I just cancelled my order. I do not want to wait either.

[Dbluegoat]

My HPTuners shows up this week. Could always come down and play :)

Yes I just noticed you mentioned that on the kill thread......Has Dmonty contacted you about getting a group of us together sometime? I might just have to come down.....I was going to order Hp Tuners but was afraid to cause I would not know what to change and what not too.....

[Dbluegoat]

I just cancelled my order. I do not want to wait either.


I dont blame you man........I am trying to find out now if mine is coming this week or not.... :sneaky:

[tiggerfan]

I saw a few posts, I'm going to get them together on the dyno thread now.

[speed_demon_freak]

What about pfyc.com?
They sell them on their website.

[Dbluegoat]

I saw a few posts, I'm going to get them together on the dyno thread now.


Cool.....me and him have been exchanging pm's about the subject.....I will let him know....I could probably only make it down once a month but at least we can start getting a group of goats together....

[Dbluegoat]

I just cancelled my order. I do not want to wait either.
Well its official mine is now supposed to be 2-3 more weeks? I am pissed.....I was told last week it would be this week and now it will be 2-3 more weeks? I cancelled my order. :mad:

FYI to vendors......IF it is out of stock please make that clear on the order page.

I did just notice PFYC does have a spot where they list items "in-stock" :thumbs:

And a side note...I hope this is not considered Sponsor Bashing

[mlc]

And a side note...I hope this is not considered Sponsor Bashing

Seems we're a little gun-shy now :wall:

[Dbluegoat]

Seems we're a little gun-shy now :wall:

Well.....kind of.......

Side Note:

LS1 Speed Inc.........is out of the Predator too...

[Huntress]

I wonder if it is exactly the same and works on the GTO??
I've been in contact with the seller and he is a authorized dealer, and it is the exact same model number. Additionally he just got these from the manufacturer. I'm not sure how many he has available, but the auction lists 8 available.

[Huntress]

Huntress........if it was you would you do it? Do you trust it? I only saw a couple of negative feedbacks so I think I am gonna for it. He is a 99.3% positive seller.

EDIT: I went ahead and ordered one from the guy. Hope its ok. I will let you know. I got 2nd day shipping, and saved a $100 bucks. Thanks Huntress.

I ordered mine today already, he's been on ebay since 2000, and has good feedback, has sold more expensive items with good feedback recently, and he responded to my emails in a timely and professional manner...

[Tigger]

Ok, now I'll repeat my question one more time. Has anybody used the Predator on an M6, and if so, is it worth it?

[OrangeCrushM6]

Ok, now I'll repeat my question one more time. Has anybody used the Predator on an M6, and if so, is it worth it?

I'll let you know how it works out!

[cjlannoy]

Ok, now I'll repeat my question one more time. Has anybody used the Predator on an M6, and if so, is it worth it?
yes, what he said ^^^^^ :confused: !

[OrangeCrushM6]

I'd like to hear from someone that has used this on an M6. I doubt it will make nearly the difference described for the A4 but I'd like to know for sure.

The real gain is through the optimizing of the performance tune, which I
understand is specific for each engine, not just a across the board program
that is automatically downloaded to the PCM. For the A4, yes it optimizes
the shift points, which obviously is not needed on the six speed. I should
be getting mine tomorrow, I will post my observations after I have it
installed.