Question of the Day #9 10.06.09 Two for Tuesday

[sxty8goats]

Question # 9 Closed 10:03 AM 10/07/09

Two for Tuesday!

Points for each question, bonus points if you get them both.

1st Correct answer 5 points each question, 2nd correct answer 3 points each question, 3rd corrrect answer 2 points each question. 1 point each question for correct answers. Bonus point is the amount of the highest scoring correct answer if you get two correct but no less than 2 points. So if you are first in with both, 5 points + 5points + 5 bonus = 15 points. If you are second in with one and 4th in with the next, 3 points + 1 point + 3 bonus = 7 points. Yay!!! If you are 13th in with both, 1 point + 1 point + 2 bonus = 4 points...

Answers can be sent in the same PM or two PM's it is up to you.

Question #1

During a recent police investigation, The chief inspector was interviewing five local villains to try and identify who stole Mrs Archer's cake from the mid-summers fair.
Below is a summary of their statements:

Arnold: it wasn't Edward
it was Brian

Brian: it wasn't Charlie
it wasn't Edward

Charlie: it was Edward
it wasn't Arnold

Derek: it was Charlie
it was Brian

Edward: it was Derek
it wasn't Arnold

It was well known that each suspect told exactly one lie.
Can you determine who stole the cake?

Question # 9 Closed 10/07/09

Yes, Charley stole the Cake

Question #2
http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/attachment.php?attach mentid=113586&stc=1&d=1254838695
A paper sheet has the shape of a two-unit square with semicircles on opposite sides. If a disk with a diameter of two units is removed from the center as shown in the illustration, what is the
area of the remaining paper?
Question # 9 Closed 10/07/09

There are 4 sq units left (4^units)

PM Answers Please...

[USCGTO]

two PMS for 2 questions..

[05ls7gto]

Same here, 2 PMs.

[VeritasGT]

1 PM, both questions.

[radkon]

PM sent

[PBANDPKGTO]

shit i goofed up

[sxty8goats]

I hate to give tips but I just want to say that a couple of you are a little quick with your answers and not giving a complete answer.

[05ls7gto]

Yeah I know that affects me... :bomb:

[1luckeyt/a]

pm'd

[sxty8goats]

Yeah I know that affects me... :bomb:

Those that understand what i am talking about can resubmit the 'complete' answer. These will only count if your answer was 'correct' but incomplete. This will affect your place in line.

[05ls7gto]

Done. :)

BTW was I first? (You can PM me that answer ;))

[USCGTO]

cause I was just done floating a thread in the Kill section at 7:27 when I ventured here and 68 had just posted it at 7:28. I could be wrong though, wrong in my assumption, that you were second, not in my answer.

Atleast not the second answer.
An engineer got to have it correct. lol.

[05ls7gto]

I PM'ed about 3 minutes before you posted. :p

[USCGTO]

I PM'ed about 3 minutes before you posted. :p

I waited a few minutes before I Posted... lol :turbonaug

[05ls7gto]

Damn, I did the same... When the time comes we will find out.

I am not sure if my resubmit will affect my score though, because it turns out I wasn't affected.

[Good Vibes]

I'm late anyway, so even if I did get it right, it's only 1 point. I did explain my answers, though. I love figuring out stuff.

[sxty8goats]

I'm late anyway, so even if I did get it right, it's only 1 point. I did explain my answers, though. I love figuring out stuff.

if you got them both right the total will be 4 points. 1 point each and 2 point bonus for getting them right.

[sxty8goats]

Done. :)

BTW was I first? (You can PM me that answer ;))

cause I was just done floating a thread in the Kill section at 7:27 when I ventured here and 68 had just posted it at 7:28. I could be wrong though, wrong in my assumption, that you were second, not in my answer.

Atleast not the second answer.
An engineer got to have it correct. lol.

I PM'ed about 3 minutes before you posted. :p

I waited a few minutes before I Posted... lol :turbonaug
Where is the fun in giving away who was first? Suspense, the spice of life. :)

[Good Vibes]

if you got them both right the total will be 4 points. 1 point each and 2 point bonus for getting them right.

That would be nice. :) We'll see.

[sxty8goats]

Well time to go home. Worked long enough.

Surprisingly few people have both questions correct. Many because of the way they have stated the answer to one of the questions. I picked these two because they use slightly different skill sets so what would be simple for some will be difficult to others or vice versa. The only further help I'll give is one word 'syntax'. You got to have it right or it is meaningless.

[VeritasGT]

What f'ing syntax?

So and so stole the cake, and there are x square units of paper left!

Edited : any questions updated with the 'corrected answer after 8:16 EST this morning are not valid corrections because VGT posted the answer, or rather the missing syntax. VGT will loose 4 points regardless.

[USCGTO]

so well , I understand what VGT did there.. maybe unknowingly..but,

are you saying that since your question was
Can you determine who stole the cake? that means we had to answer it as
Yes, ____ stole it.. or ____ stole it..

[Jizz]

Question # 9 Closed 10:03 AM 10/07/09

Two for Tuesday!

Points for each question, bonus points if you get them both.

1st Correct answer 5 points each question, 2nd correct answer 3 points each question, 3rd corrrect answer 2 points each question. 1 point each question for correct answers. Bonus point is the amount of the highest scoring correct answer if you get two correct but no less than 2 points. So if you are first in with both, 5 points + 5points + 5 bonus = 15 points. If you are second in with one and 4th in with the next, 3 points + 1 point + 3 bonus = 7 points. Yay!!! If you are 13th in with both, 1 point + 1 point + 2 bonus = 4 points...

Answers can be sent in the same PM or two PM's it is up to you.

Question #1

During a recent police investigation, The chief inspector was interviewing five local villains to try and identify who stole Mrs Archer's cake from the mid-summers fair.
Below is a summary of their statements:

Arnold: it wasn't Edward
it was Brian

Brian: it wasn't Charlie
it wasn't Edward

Charlie: it was Edward
it wasn't Arnold

Derek: it was Charlie
it was Brian

Edward: it was Derek
it wasn't Arnold

It was well known that each suspect told exactly one lie.
Can you determine who stole the cake?

Question # 9 Closed 10/07/09

Yes, Charley stole the Cake

Question #2
http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/attachment.php?attach mentid=113586&stc=1&d=1254838695
A paper sheet has the shape of a two-unit square with semicircles on opposite sides. If a disk with a diameter of two units is removed from the center as shown in the illustration, what is the
area of the remaining paper?
Question # 9 Closed 10/07/09

There are 4 sq units left (4^units)

PM Answers Please...


Actually it is CharlIE according to the question. Not Charley. So I should get 4 extra points!

[USCGTO]

4 negative points for pointing out 68s spellings.. :rules:

sixtyeight says Anyone who corrects my shitty spelling will lose 1 point.

[Jizz]

4 negative points for pointing out 68s spellings.. :rules:

It has nothing to do with spelling. He said the wrong person did the crime.

[USCGTO]

he meant charlie.. theres no charley in there..

[VeritasGT]

What f'ing syntax?

So and so stole the cake, and there are x square units of paper left!

Edited : any questions updated with the 'corrected answer after 8:16 EST this morning are not valid corrections because VGT posted the answer, or rather the missing syntax. VGT will loose 4 points regardless.




WTF? Units != Syntax

[Jizz]

he meant charlie.. theres no charley in there..

Obvious to you maybe, but I am not assuming anything. I am only going by what he said.

[sxty8goats]

Actually it is CharlIE according to the question. Not Charley. So I should get 4 extra points!

Check the QOTD rules. Specifically the one about correcting my spel'n :)

[USCGTO]

when u wanna go by what he said , u might as well have followed the rules, which he made.. lols:turbonaug

[Jizz]

Check the QOTD rules. Specifically the one about correcting my spel'n :)

I did not correct your spelling. I only stated you put down the wrong person. Big difference. See Charley was not at the Fair. But his twin brother Charlie was in fact at the fair. See?

[sxty8goats]

WTF? Units != Syntax

Yes. With out specifically pointing out that your math expression needed to be correct, I couldn't give any other hint. Syntax fits well. As far back as 22 years ago I was docked for 'improper syntax' on math tests because I used the wrong expression or didn't' bother to specify 'sq' on an area equation. Many people answered that question correctly, many did not. simply saying '4' is not correct. 4 what? 4 units is a line. or if arranged properly, 4 sides of 1 sq unit

But the main point is, do not give hints or answers to the questions.

[sxty8goats]

I did not correct your spelling. I only stated you put down the wrong person. Big difference. See Charley was not at the Fair. But his twin brother Charlie was in fact at the fair. See?

Not important to people who are not named Charlie or Charley or Charly. It is clearly a spelling correction... :)

[VeritasGT]

Yes. With out specifically pointing out that your math expression needed to be correct, I couldn't give any other hint. Syntax fits well. As far back as 22 years ago I was docked for 'improper syntax' on math tests because I used the wrong expression or didn't' bother to specify 'sq' on an area equation. Many people answered that question correctly, many did not. simply saying '4' is not correct. 4 what? 4 units is a line. or if arranged properly, 4 sides of 1 sq unit

But the main point is, do not give hints or answers to the questions.

Mathematical syntax refers to the construction of an equation (ie, the order of numbers and more specifically, the placement of signifiers such as +, -, X, / and parentheses. Not whether or not the unit is corrrect).

4 is a wrong answer, but not because 'syntax'.

[Jizz]

Not important to people who are not named Charlie or Charley or Charly. It is clearly a spelling correction... :)

Duly noted and would prefer not to lose a point. No more "corrections" from me :)

[sxty8goats]

Duly noted and would prefer not to lose a point. No more "corrections" from me :)

Not really pulling points for that, it is mainly a poke at myself because I know I can't spell for shit. :)

[sxty8goats]

Q1
Arnold: it wasn't Edward TRUE
it was Brian FALSE

Brian: it wasn't Charlie FALSE
it wasn't Edward TRUE

Charlie: it was Edward FALSE
it wasn't Arnold TRUE

Derek: it was Charlie TRUE
it was Brian FALSE

Edward: it was Derek FALSE
it wasn't Arnold TRUE

Therefore Charlie was the one who stole the cake.

Q2: I just guessed on that one... 4sq. units (ie cm, in, ft)

05ls7gto did a good job of showing the logic for the first one.

Q2, the height of the shape is shown to be 2 units which means that the diameter of the circle is also 2 units, the radius of the each end is 1 unit. If you were to split the 'hole' and move the resulting halves to the ends, you would simply eliminate the ends leaving a 2 x 2 square. The area of that square would be 4 sq units. So the area of the shape with the hole in the middle must be 4 sq units.

An answer of 4 or 4 units is not correct. A unit is a line/ distance, not an area.

Today _ Member _ Q1 Charley _ Q2 4^Units _ Bonus Points

15 _ USCGTO _ 5 _ 5 _ 5
9 _ 05ls7gto _ 3 _ 3 _ 3
5 _ hellmonkey _ 1 _ 2 _ 2
4 _ bvbull200 _ 1 _ 1 _ 2
4 _ jheizer _ 1 _ 1 _ 2
4 _ Ninjured _ 1 _ 1 _ 2
4 _ RXZKNZ _ 1 _ 1 _ 2
2 _ Underoath _ 2 _ 0 _ 0
1 _ brada _ 0 _ 1 _ 0
1 _ gametech _ 0 _ 1 _ 0
1 _ Good Vibes _ 1 _ 0 _ 0
1 _ GTOzilla _ 0 _ 1 _ 0
1 _ SilverGoat04 _ 1 _ 0 _ 0
1 _ StarvedGOAT _ 1 _ 0 _ 0
0 _ 05 goater _ 0 _ 0 _ 0
0 _ 1luckeyt/a _ 0 _ 0 _ 0
0 _ Hemi23 _ 0 _ 0 _ 0
0 _ Jizz _ 0 _ 0 _ 0
0 _ PBANDPKGTO _ 0 _ 0 _ 0
0 _ radkon _ 0 _ 0 _ 0
0 _ VeritasGT _ 1 _ 1 _ -2 (2 points - 4 points for giving away the answer)

[VeritasGT]

0 _ VeritasGT _ 1 _ 1 _ -2 (2 points - 4 points for giving away the answer)

Horseshit.

[sxty8goats]

Mathematical syntax refers to the construction of an equation (ie, the order of numbers and more specifically, the placement of signifiers such as +, -, X, / and parentheses. Not whether or not the unit is corrrect).

4 is a wrong answer, but not because 'syntax'.

Regardless of your argument, you gave clues to the answer, eliminating anyone's chance of correcting their answer. You potentially took points away from people. There was no other way I could give a chance for people who I knew understood the question but stated their answer wrong without giving the question away. 'Syntax' is correct enough without cluing in on which question I was talking about.

Do not give clues or discuss the answer before the question is closed. It is unfair to the other people playing the QOTD.

[Underoath]

I quit.

[sxty8goats]

I quit.

Why for? only one attempt? You got one of them right..

[bvbull200]

For the first question, you really only needed the information from the first 2 people (Arnold and Brian). If we knew it wasn't Edward based on Arnold's statements, then Brian's lie had to be that it wasn't Charlie. That being the case, we know it was, indeed, Charlie.