So I heard all the 60s Pontiacs had 10.5:1 compression

[evltwins]

:crapfan:

:wall:

[paco loco]

lol, here we go!

[T-bones Goat]

:crapfan:

:wall:

What did I miss? In on one just in case. :)

[evltwins]

well it was a debate between Star Chief Jeff and Tom TIberio about early 60's Pontiacs and I think Tom got a little heated about it. Then SOMEONE!!! went back outside and stirred the pot again after wards. It was pretty damn funny

[Star Chief Jeff]

All I can say is I'm glad I was gone when the pot was re-stirred. He asked me what my compression ratio was, I told him. He didn't believe me, not my problem. He then went on to start another one about whether the early GTOs were Tempest or Le Mans. We disagreed on that one, and.....

[T-bones Goat]

Shit, I hate I missed that! :D

[T-bones Goat]

All I can say is I'm glad I was gone when the pot was re-stirred. He asked me what my compression ratio was, I told him. He didn't believe me, not my problem. He then went on to start another one about whether the early GTOs were Tempest or Le Mans. We disagreed on that one, and.....
I'm glad you made it out yesterday and it was cool to see the old hotrod go down the track!

[Pirate]

Joe, I need my big ass spoon back - NOW!

[evltwins]

No worries at all Jeff. The best part was the pot getting re-stirred. It was good to see you again, hope you can make it to FL

Good job Jeff(Pirate)

[Star Chief Jeff]

It was fun, I know the beast isn't fast, but it's fun to play with anyway. Thanks a lot for allowing me to hit the track.

[paco loco]

I got it on video...the run, not the pot stirring (unfortunately :))

[Star Chief Jeff]

You had enough space to record the whole run? I figured you'd run out of digital memory by the time I made it to the end. That'll be cool to see.

[05 red tomcat]

The 1961 Pontiac Ventura 389


Specifications
Wheelbase, inches: 119.0
Weight, lbs: 3,685
Number built: NA
Base price: $3,200

Standard Engine
Type: ohv V-8
Displacement, cid: 389
Fuel system: 3 x 2 bbl.
Compression ratio: 10.75:1
Horsepower @ rpm: 348 @ 4800
Torque @ rpm: 430 @ 3200

Representative Performance
0-60 mph, sec: 8.2
1/4 mile, sec @ mph: 15.5 @ 9

[05 red tomcat]

http://www.musclecarclub.com/musclecars/pontiac-gto/pontiac-gto-history.shtml

[JoeyD]

Regarding the Tempest v. LeMans debate.......wasn't there to witness it. Take a look at the links below. You (anyone collectively) decide.

http://books.google.com/books?id=MGzXnpw2xwoC&pg=PA31&lpg=PA31&dq=1964+pontiac+lemans+gto+option+codes&source=bl&ots=fv9Qm19ryy&sig=qOTUwUWAdcmLU_xpZ-jhDq2qLVo&hl=en&ei=DGsBS6fCO8uLnQfW8NwQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=9&ved=0CCQQ6AEwCDgK#v=onepage&q=1964%20pontiac%20lemans%20gto%20option%20codes&f=false

http://www.gtoalley.com/gtopagens.html

http://www.tachrev.com/GTO1.htm

http://www.greatoldcars.com/pontiac_gto_photo_arch ive.htm

[Ironmancan]

It was funny Toms knowledge on old steel has always been more than a little impressive. Way to stir that pot Joe lol....

[Doc GTO]

The 1961 Pontiac Ventura 389


Specifications
Wheelbase, inches: 119.0
Weight, lbs: 3,685
Number built: NA
Base price: $3,200

Standard Engine
Type: ohv V-8
Displacement, cid: 389
Fuel system: 3 x 2 bbl.
Compression ratio: 10.75:1
Horsepower @ rpm: 348 @ 4800
Torque @ rpm: 430 @ 3200

Representative Performance
0-60 mph, sec: 8.2
1/4 mile, sec @ mph: 15.5 @ 9


Wrong motor, Tom.

[Doc GTO]

Regarding the Tempest v. LeMans debate.......wasn't there to witness it. Take a look at the links below. You (anyone collectively) decide.

http://books.google.com/books?id=MGzXnpw2xwoC&pg=PA31&lpg=PA31&dq=1964+pontiac+lemans+gto+option+codes&source=bl&ots=fv9Qm19ryy&sig=qOTUwUWAdcmLU_xpZ-jhDq2qLVo&hl=en&ei=DGsBS6fCO8uLnQfW8NwQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=9&ved=0CCQQ6AEwCDgK#v=onepage&q=1964%20pontiac%20lemans%20gto%20option%20codes&f=false

http://www.gtoalley.com/gtopagens.html

http://www.tachrev.com/GTO1.htm

http://www.greatoldcars.com/pontiac_gto_photo_arch ive.htm

It was funny Toms knowledge on old steel has always been more than a little impressive. Way to stir that pot Joe lol....



It is scary how much Tom knows about vintage Pontiacs. No shit, down to the type of bolts used to hold the oil pump pick-ups in the pan.

[Doc GTO]

He then went on to start another one about whether the early GTOs were Tempest or Le Mans. We disagreed on that one, and.....

Well, there is a good reason, unless you had an extremely rare GTO optioned Tempest that Mecum, Barrett/Jackson, and GM for that matter, does not know about then you would know why he disagreed with you.

Straight from the history of the GTO

"The GTO option was available on three LeMans bodies; the two-door coupe, hardtop, and convertible."

Joey gave the links above.