Likelihood of a Special Edition mid-year '06?

[BanditWS6]

Anyone have any thoughts as to the possibility of a special edition GTO being introduced at some point in the second half of the 2006 model year? Perhaps something to commemorate this generation of GTO?

My dad works in Detroit for a GM supplier; today he tells me he heard a wild story about a local dealer saying there was going to be a Judge special edition in 2006 that would be bumped up to 575 horsepower. We both agreed that sounded ridiculous, especially coming from the mouth of some dealer manager, but it got me wondering if perhaps there might be some kind of less-fantastic special edition on tap.

I don't recall when the 2002 Collector's Edition Trans Am was introduced -- was it a known package at the introduction of the '02 model year, or was it only introduced later in the year? I suppose something similar might occur with the GTO, even if it is only a cosmetic package.

[H2OSGTO]

Rumor---There MayBe A NEW PAINT COLOR MID YEAR, NICKLE---WHO KNOWS If It Will BE A SPECIAL EDITION OR Not

[bnvus]

:bs:

Don't wait for it. Especially when there is the possibility of an 2008.

[BanditWS6]

Yeah, I'm not gonna wait on the off chance something will show up. It won't be the last car I own. :)

[5point7]

575 HP. YEAAAAA right, not gonna happen. I would bet my Dog on that. No way a GTO will overpowe a Z06

[miscreant]

Anyone have any thoughts as to the possibility of a special edition GTO being introduced at some point in the second half of the 2006 model year? Perhaps something to commemorate this generation of GTO?

My dad works in Detroit for a GM supplier; today he tells me he heard a wild story about a local dealer saying there was going to be a Judge special edition in 2006 that would be bumped up to 575 horsepower. We both agreed that sounded ridiculous, especially coming from the mouth of some dealer manager, but it got me wondering if perhaps there might be some kind of less-fantastic special edition on tap.

I don't recall when the 2002 Collector's Edition Trans Am was introduced -- was it a known package at the introduction of the '02 model year, or was it only introduced later in the year? I suppose something similar might occur with the GTO, even if it is only a cosmetic package.Hmm, I think this was from 2004? No, wait, from 2005? No, maybe 2006 now?

Old rumor...just keeps changing years.

[GTPprix]

Relatively likely..

[Dbluegoat]

Relatively likely..
:secret: :sneaky: .......share

[Ingram4868]

I would be surprised to see it while the cars are still being made by Holden. Now, maybe after a successful first run of the US made GTO version. Of course some dealers might just jump the gun with a power adder and some nice decals (aka Yenko cameros).

[zgoat]

Relatively likely..

OK...I have been around the boards long enough to know that this guy knows what he is talking about...

Now if only he would give us more info...

GTPrix...I am not too proud to flood your PM inbox with msgs until you tell us more...heed my warning! :)

[Chubutta]

Relatively likely..


I also agree with GTP from what i have heard from a couple people :secret:

We can only wait and see.....

[GTO_Greg]

I can get with a special edition w/ the nickle color middle of the 06 run as a 'last of this incarnation GTO', but not the horsepower number.

[Tinman]

575 HP. YEAAAAA right, not gonna happen. I would bet my Dog on that. No way a GTO will overpowe a Z06

Why Don't you just bet the $50 bucks you ripped me off for 5point7.

Don't anyone here take a bet with him, you won't get paid!

[sccaGTO]

The option of a Nickel colored GTO would be interesting. I like having proud paint names. Phantom Black, Yellow Jacket, Barbados Blue (kinda makes me think I should be in Barbados).I can see it now: Nickel Silver Metallic.

BTW, Chris, just a little hint. *wink, wink, nudge, nudge*

[zgoat]

GTPrix...dont make me start sending you PM's...

[radkon]

I think its a possibility. 575HP seems a bit high but the LS7 will fit in the GTO so 500 HP is easy. As far as out powering the Z06, well there's a monster 600 HP supercharged Z06 nearing production. :secret:

[H2OSGTO]

If Gm Makes A SPECIAL EDITION GTO , It Will BE AN APPEARANCE PACKAGE (THEY Are Not Going To Spend Alot Of $$$ On THE TAIL END Of PRODUCTION OF THE GTO)

[JS1965]

2006 1/2 S.E. GTO------>Stickers,paint and maybe wheels if anything.....
GM will NEVER let there Z06 be 2nd fiddle........

[RiceEater]

Yeah, the Z06 is the pride and joy of GM's cars. I kind of doubt that they would let the LS7 be put in the GTO and let it be about on par with the Z06. I won't completely count something like that out though, because Mr. Lutz seems to kind of like the new goat. It's just not very likely.

[PeleProdigyGTO]

Yeah, the Z06 is the pride and joy of GM's cars. I kind of doubt that they would let the LS7 be put in the GTO and let it be about on par with the Z06. I won't completely count something like that out though, because Mr. Lutz seems to kind of like the new goat. It's just not very likely.

There were also a number of people saying they would "Never Never" put the new LS2 in the GTO because it would take away from the Corvette. Well, that happened, and the Vette's doing just fine. So, I'm not gonna completely write-off an LS7 in the GTO... I could see a 50K 500HP Judge in my future!

[5point7]

I hightly doubt the LS7 in THIS gen GTO will happen. It would crank the price up. They are just starting to sell GTOs good and I doubt they want to mess that up, even if it is only a special edition.

The LS7 is each hand made and tested, that tells you something right there about the price.

MY GUESS: SAP, 18" wheels, Exhaust, Springs and a few little mods to bring it up to 405-410 (looks better than 400 on paper). MSRP: $40k

[monaro_gto]

If they were to put an LS7 in and up it to $50k i'd buy a vette. I doubt they will do it. Body kit and minor mods maybe.

[gtogto]

I hope GM is going to put up a fight against that new Shelby GT500. Stock vs Stock, we can't win. I'm hoping theres going to be a $40K GTO with at least 450hp. I don't think it will happen though.

[Bad04GTO]

Well Holden is making a special edition CV8-Z, nothing special really a sunroof. But the color on website is what the orange fusion will be??? If so I like it. Look for a possibility of a special edition, maybe dealer installed performance package. Special color?? Maybe the blue Turismo Mica??


http://www.holden.com.au/www-holden/action/colourtrim?modelid=12003

[Leavehard]

Doesn't really matter if they up the HP on this thing anyway. The way GM has set this thing up, (torque management, heat soak issues) too little of this "power" is getting to the rear wheels. 400 HP ? Gimme a break..... :banghead:

[VR42GTO]

While the GTO is the fastest car out of the 3 at this time (Charger, Stang), our top status is soon to be lost. The SRT-8 Charger is gonna be faster and so will the GT500. It be nice to see GM do something to bump up the power a bit or at least change some of the programming so that the heatsoak and TM take less of a hit on the performance. They also should put some better tires on the car, Nitto 555's standard.

[spd98]

While the GTO is the fastest car out of the 3 at this time (Charger, Stang), our top status is soon to be lost. The SRT-8 Charger is gonna be faster and so will the GT500. It be nice to see GM do something to bump up the power a bit or at least change some of the programming so that the heatsoak and TM take less of a hit on the performance. They also should put some better tires on the car, Nitto 555's standard.


I kinda have my doubts the srt8 will faster.

[sccaGTO]

I kinda have my doubts the srt8 will faster.
Yeah, that thing has even more nannies than the GTO. One of the car mags tried doing a burnout in one during the 3-car showdown. The charger pulled enough power to stop wheelspin, resulting in a 3rd place set of marks (3rd by a LONG shot). Guess which car won. ;)

[Flashpoint]

Yeah, that thing has even more nannies than the GTO. One of the car mags tried doing a burnout in one during the 3-car showdown. The charger pulled enough power to stop wheelspin, resulting in a 3rd place set of marks (3rd by a LONG shot). Guess which car won. ;)

The SRT-8 is also heavier then a GTO...:eek2:

[Red Devil]

I am not a betting man, but i would put money on a special edition or commerative addition gto for MY06. Maybe we will see a bump in Hp, but i do suspect it will be a new color like the Pulse Red, and possibly different colored interior stitching and gauges.

[Chubutta]

I am not a betting man, but i would put money on a special edition or commerative addition gto for MY06. Maybe we will see a bump in Hp, but i do suspect it will be a new color like the Pulse Red, and possibly different colored interior stitching and gauges.

:secret: Im getting hints now...... :secret:

[FraggerCrue]

I hightly doubt the LS7 in THIS gen GTO will happen. It would crank the price up. They are just starting to sell GTOs good and I doubt they want to mess that up, even if it is only a special edition.

The LS7 is each hand made and tested, that tells you something right there about the price.

MY GUESS: SAP, 18" wheels, Exhaust, Springs and a few little mods to bring it up to 405-410 (looks better than 400 on paper). MSRP: $40k
"hand-made"
lol
yep, they have little dwarves down there underneath the mountain sweating over the forge fires, hammering away at those aluminum blocks.

Sorry, but the block is cast in Mexico, shipped to America (Kentucy?) and semi-hand assembled. I can promise you a lot of the tools they use can't be found in a NASCAR garage. Saw a special on Speed channel a month or two ago.

[B/STOCK]

Don't hold your breath waiting for a SE with more HP. There were all kind of rumors about the 50th anniversary Corvette and all we ended up with was red paint and shale interior + a couple of badges. No HP at all.

[monster5601]

Have you heard of the LS3 or it's HO LS9 big brother yet?

[GTPprix]

Have you heard of the LS3 or it's HO LS9 big brother yet?

Oh no.. be prepared for the barrage of questions now I'm not gonna say a word lol ;)

[spd98]

"hand-made"
lol
yep, they have little dwarves down there underneath the mountain sweating over the forge fires, hammering away at those aluminum blocks.

Sorry, but the block is cast in Mexico, shipped to America (Kentucy?) and semi-hand assembled. I can promise you a lot of the tools they use can't be found in a NASCAR garage. Saw a special on Speed channel a month or two ago.

http://popularhotrodding.com/tech/0507phr_gm/

[monster5601]

Oh no.. be prepared for the barrage of questions now I'm not gonna say a word lol ;)

I'm from the school of hard knocks, I just don't learn that easy (as in the last time). I'm keeping quite.

You want to know what they are, wait till 08.

[pulse_goat]

:bs:

Don't wait for it. Especially when there is the possibility of an 2008.

Can you provide some credible links that states such? I have been looking for that "limited production - shut the spicket off in 2008 talk' for months but cant find anything to support it.

Thanks
Appreciate it.

[pulse_goat]

Have you heard of the LS3 or it's HO LS9 big brother yet?

Nope... but unless they limit production to 100 or less ,no one would buy it with these 'bend over and take it' gas prices.

[highperf]

"hand-made"
lolNice Avatar Fragger....... now what whas this thread about.

[Flashpoint]

Have you heard of the LS3 or it's HO LS9 big brother yet?


You mean the 6.3L stroked LS2 which is the supossed LS3? Which was around 425Hp? Last I heard was CTS-V was getting that because "the LS2 is already used in too many vehicles"

Haven't heard anything about an LS9???

[monster5601]

You mean the 6.3L stroked LS2 which is the supossed LS3? Which was around 425Hp? Last I heard was CTS-V was getting that because "the LS2 is already used in too many vehicles"

Haven't heard anything about an LS9???

Just like the 5.7L have dissappeared so will the 6.0L replaced by the LS3 6.2L and the LS9 6.2L SC.

[Flashpoint]

Just like the 5.7L have dissappeared so will the 6.0L replaced by the LS3 6.2L and the LS9 6.2L SC.


Maybe in a few years, unless it is cheaper then the LS2, that's one of the main reasons the GTO got the LS2 vs. still having the LS1. The LS2 block is cheaper to cast and they already made them for the C6. So they saved money by giving you a bigger engine with more power. Win-Win

[sccaGTO]

Just like the 5.7L have dissappeared so will the 6.0L replaced by the LS3 6.2L and the LS9 6.2L SC.
Am I wrong, or isn't the LS3 the new 5.3L all-aluminum engine in the Grand Prix GXP, Monte Carlo SS, Impala SS?

[monster5601]

Am I wrong, or isn't the LS3 the new 5.3L all-aluminum engine in the Grand Prix GXP, Monte Carlo SS, Impala SS?

You are thinking of the LS4.

[sccaGTO]

You are thinking of the LS4.
Every car magazine I've seen calls it the LS3. I thought it to be strange that any LS based engine turned to drive the rear wheels should get the LS# designation. The FWD & truck based LS style engines should have a different code, to prevent confusion.

[sickgoatlover]

Oh no.. be prepared for the barrage of questions now I'm not gonna say a word lol ;)

Hey Chris, I'm not gonna ask any questions. Just name a $$$ figure that I should be shooting for................ Then, at least I know how many kids I can afford to send to college.

LOL

Sick

[rlsedition]

No "Special Edition" version for 2006 model year, though the team tried putting one together, to no avail.

No more HP is planned for the car.

Yes, a new silver color is coming mid-year.

No 2007 or 2008 is coming (soonest you might see something, if at all: 2010 model year, if GM can figure out how to create a cost-effective platform).

[Fast GTO]

No "Special Edition" version for 2006 model year, though the team tried putting one together, to no avail.

No more HP is planned for the car.

Yes, a new silver color is coming mid-year.

No 2007 or 2008 is coming (soonest you might see something, if at all: 2010 model year, if GM can figure out how to create a cost-effective platform).

Interesting, I tend to believe you since I have found that Pontiac is lacking in imagination and tends to be late to the game.

It would be nice to see a 450/500 HP GTO come 2010 with a 6.2L of some kind.

[GTPprix]

Those of you going to Mid-Ohio are in for a treat ;)

[pulse_goat]

Interesting, I tend to believe you since I have found that Pontiac is lacking in imagination and tends to be late to the game.

It would be nice to see a 450/500 HP GTO come 2010 with a 6.2L of some kind.

Heck, just drop the Z06 427 into her and make it a null issue! That would be the year they call it the Judge!

[RiceEater]

I just think GM would be a little hesistant to put their new C6Z's LS7 in a goat... at least not until they have something better to drop in a new Z06.

[pulse_goat]

I just think GM would be a little hesistant to put their new C6Z's LS7 in a goat... at least not until they have something better to drop in a new Z06.

I would agree...they need that C6Z price to make up for the R&D costs...then they can drop it into the GOAT if they keep it around long enough.

[sccaGTO]

Those of you going to Mid-Ohio are in for a treat ;)
:huh: :huh: :huh: Hey, Chris. You can just PM me for that little sneak peek of Mid-Ohio. I presume you won't be able to make that trip.

[radkon]

Those of you going to Mid-Ohio are in for a treat ;)
:D oh goodie! I can't wait! They better not make me sign a confidentiality agreement! :banghead:

[Red Devil]

SOmeone needs to take pics. Bring those camera phones.

[pulse_goat]

SOmeone needs to take pics. Bring those camera phones.

Sorry if I missed something here...are you saying that an 06 will be there with something different that we might want to see?

Just curious...in CO myself so no-go on the Ohio trip but curious just the same.

[FraggerCrue]

I can get with a special edition w/ the nickle color middle of the 06 run as a 'last of this incarnation GTO', but not the horsepower number.
When you say 'nickle' do you mean shiney like a chrome bumper?

[B/STOCK]

When you say 'nickle' do you mean shiney like a chrome bumper?

Does it come with a red interior??

[H2OSGTO]

Im guessing Nickel will be darker than the current Quicksilver

[fillmore]

probably close to the ws6 pewter color.

[Flashpoint]

probably close to the ws6 pewter color.


I hope not, I never liked that color....too many cars have that gold/champane metalic color.

[NeveGTO]

No "Special Edition" version for 2006 model year, though the team tried putting one together, to no avail.

No more HP is planned for the car.

Yes, a new silver color is coming mid-year.

No 2007 or 2008 is coming (soonest you might see something, if at all: 2010 model year, if GM can figure out how to create a cost-effective platform).

believe this guy!!! Former Grand Prix GXP team member. he's not a bullshitter.

[TM Reich]

Did anyone ask Pontiac why they havn't made a produciton version of the Woodward?

Yes, I did...in fact I told them that if they did I would sell my ZO6 and my 04 to get one...I was told:

"Hold onto your money for a few months."

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3867 2&page=1&pp=30

Interesting. Very intersting.

[TM Reich]

I remember reading this awhile back and wondering why they would want two of Gravana's Woodward hoods (posted 7/26/05)

I specifially asked him last week if he could arrange to get it to me faster then standard DHL once he picked up the hoods. He said it could be done. I'm hood number 3...don't know how many he picked up. I do know that GM wanted 2 hoods but he put them off for the moment so that we could get ours first.

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3414 3

[GTwOw]

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3867 2&page=1&pp=30

Interesting. Very intersting.

That would be pretty damn cool. I'm glad I held off on an 05 and am waiting, although waiting really does suck.

[TurkeyHawk]

When I spoke with Larry at Mid-OH I asked about the Nickel color and he simply said "brighter than Quicksilver" and that it would / should be available in February. I also asked about a model year end special edition or anything at all, and he simply said that they had thought about it, and wait and see so to speak. The Brazen Orange will NOT be getting the matching interior, black only with the orange piping around the wheel and shifter etc.

[zgoat]

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3867 2&page=1&pp=30

Interesting. Very intersting.

Larry is who told me this as well...

[B/STOCK]

When I spoke with Larry at Mid-OH I asked about the Nickel color and he simply said "brighter than Quicksilver" and that it would / should be available in February. I also asked about a model year end special edition or anything at all, and he simply said that they had thought about it, and wait and see so to speak. The Brazen Orange will NOT be getting the matching interior, black only with the orange piping around the wheel and shifter etc.


How can perople be ordering 06s when Pontiac doesn't even know what color the interiors are going to be?