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68GTOGirl
06-23-2004, 03:15 PM
Problem the first day...horn dosen't work. Replaced the fuse.
Problem at 1,000 miles, AC won't come on. I read the manual to make sure that the dials were set right on the third sunday with a full moon...nothing. Drove into the dealership. Comes on and then goes off.
So...they ordered the AC control. Put it in. Not the problem. If you turn on the blowers on any setting...only defrost comes on. Wait 5 minutes, it does what it's suppose to do but the AC still dosen't work.
4 days later (car stayed at dealer)... whole electronic model is replaced. Car is being put back together and security number needed. Give dealer security number...nothing - number dosen't work.
Anyone have any problem similar????
tiggerfan
06-23-2004, 03:17 PM
Problem the first day...horn dosen't work. Replaced the fuse.
Problem at 1,000 miles, AC won't come on. I read the manual to make sure that the dials were set right on the third sunday with a full moon...nothing. Drove into the dealership. Comes on and then goes off.
So...they ordered the AC control. Put it in. Not the problem. If you turn on the blowers on any setting...only defrost comes on. Wait 5 minutes, it does what it's suppose to do but the AC still dosen't work.
4 days later (car stayed at dealer)... whole electronic model is replaced. Car is being put back together and security number needed. Give dealer security number...nothing - number dosen't work.
Anyone have any problem similar????
Nothing like that down here. Definitely a bummer. I hope the dealer is at least treating you well while they try and fix this.
speed_demon_freak
06-23-2004, 03:24 PM
Did they give you a rental?
You know you always have the 2+40 air conditioning.
sxty8goats
06-23-2004, 06:28 PM
I had a problem with my air but was simple. When they installed the hose at the factory they routed it too close to the fan. The fan cut the hose before I even bought the car. All is good now, dealer replaced the hose and recharged the AC.
Had a 68 convert, hood tach, Hide aways and rally guage package. What is or was your 68?
AmesGTO
06-23-2004, 09:14 PM
No problems yet here.
GMH GTO
06-23-2004, 11:07 PM
1500 miles and no problems here, shift light inop but I kinda perfer it that way.
air direction mode controls default to defrost in the event vacuum is lost on most cars, direction controls are acutaded by vacuum air inlet and blend door are typically driven by electric servos. Your refrigeration system may be ok the blend door may not be working.
let me know what they did to fix it.
If you lived close to chicago I would look at it myself, i'm an mobile HVAC guru.
DANSLS1
06-24-2004, 03:24 AM
That sucks. Knock on wood but I crossed 5000 miles yesterday and still no issues.
Dan
ashgto04
06-24-2004, 06:56 AM
No problems yet here (knock on wood as well) - I'm at 7700 miles
No problem like that. Only the radio controls on the steering wheel have been a minor problem. Good Luck.
68GTOGirl
06-25-2004, 08:23 AM
It's my 2004 baby!
Dealer offered to give me a rental. I drive an SUV so I didn't need it. My GTO is my "drive on the week ends" car. They are going out of their way to keep me happy.
As of yesterday, the PIN info still wasn't working and a call was being made to Aussie land.
sxty8goats
06-25-2004, 09:11 AM
I have the truck but I still take their rental. It's a matter of principal. Plus it gets me back and forth from the dealer.
Just make sure you get it back before the nationals.. Some of us may make the drive out your way.
68GTOGirl
06-28-2004, 06:34 PM
Update - got it back today. Entire car had to be reprogrammed including the keys. Don't lose one - it's $500 to replace (so says the dealer).
Old Goat
06-28-2004, 06:46 PM
Update - got it back today. Entire car had to be reprogrammed including the keys. Don't lose one - it's $500 to replace (so says the dealer).
That means they had to replace the Body Control Module. Wow!
Warren
06-28-2004, 10:41 PM
Update - got it back today. Entire car had to be reprogrammed including the keys. Don't lose one - it's $500 to replace (so says the dealer).
What Old Goat says, the key is only 70-100 bucks to replace.
Huntress
06-29-2004, 03:30 AM
What Old Goat says, the key is only 70-100 bucks to replace.
My dealer told me it was about $200 when I picked up my car, while warning me not to loose them. Which I ***think*** is closer to actual cost.
Warren, (or someone else) correct me if I am wrong, on another post somewhere, weren't there like three separate parts of the key, and I believe the cost of the parts alone were over $100 going towards $150. If programming is involved, their might be an additional labor/service charge too.
$500 is insane... and I would like to know the actual cost of replacement.
Dbluegoat
06-29-2004, 04:09 AM
My dealer told me it was about $200 when I picked up my car, while warning me not to loose them. Which I ***think*** is closer to actual cost.
Warren, (or someone else) correct me if I am wrong, on another post somewhere, weren't there like three separate parts of the key, and I believe the cost of the parts alone were over $100 going towards $150. If programming is involved, their might be an additional labor/service charge too.
$500 is insane... and I would like to know the actual cost of replacement.
I was told the key is about 300-400 to replace.......
Huntress
06-29-2004, 04:13 AM
I was told the key is about 300-400 to replace.......
You see... every time someone quotes what the dealer says we get a different price. :sneaky:
:confused: WTF???!!!
I think I am putting my spare in a safety deposit box :p
svede1212
06-29-2004, 04:29 AM
my salesman told me $100
sxty8goats
06-29-2004, 04:34 AM
sounds like the dealers are trying to find a few more dollars. If programing these keys is anything like the fords, all they do to program them is put the DIC/BCM into program mode and insert then turn each key that is being programed. Then reset the DIC/BCM. When I had the work truck done it took 5 minutes to program 4 keys. The Ford does not have the bobble on it but it does have a transponder to let the car know the key is the real deal. What can a Bobble cost? $50?
68GTOGirl
07-04-2004, 02:46 PM
Yes - the dealer replaced the Body Control Module.
Keys couldn't be reprogrammed so they ordered new ones. Then a duplicate set came in (which they gave me). The keys are naked - no outer casing with the controls.
Get home everything's working fine. Decide to drive to work and notice that the counsel is not put together completely.
UGH!!! It's going back on Tuesday since the dealer is closed on Monday for the holiday!!!!
Dbluegoat
07-04-2004, 02:49 PM
You see... every time someone quotes what the dealer says we get a different price. :sneaky:
:confused: WTF???!!!
I think I am putting my spare in a safety deposit box :p
Yep I was told that price becuase they had to come from Australia. I already have one key gone with my alarm and autostart install.
40THGTO
07-04-2004, 03:05 PM
Let me give you all an inside scoop. If you contact Pontiac roadside and advise them you have lost your keys to your Goat they will get you one replacement and it will be covered under your warranty :hail: . The key is going to cost in the $200 TO $300 range otherwise :eek2: (depending on the dealer). The key comes in 3 different pieces. The Key Blade, the Transponder/Remote, and the screws that hold them together. All three pieces are sold seperatly :banghead: . When the dealer orders the key blade they also have to provide your key code so that it may be cut before they recieve it. After all pieces have arrived it will be assembled (the dealers have to order a minimum of 10 screws and I think it was like $30.00) and then the service dept. will have to program it. I've been a locksmith all of my life and have been dealing with the transponder issues for 12 years. It is a great theft deterent but costly to the consumer when the keys are misplaced. (How do you think I paid for my BABY? :secret: ) Also these keys are a high security side track key that takes special equipment to cut them. The U.S. is about 15 years behind on everyone else on these systems, but in the long run it is well worth it.
isszy
07-04-2004, 03:16 PM
Yep I was told that price becuase they had to come from Australia. I already have one key gone with my alarm and autostart install.
They aren't much cheaper here. I just got quoted $US70 to replace and program a key from a Holden dealer.
White Rider
07-04-2004, 08:35 PM
Speaking of A/C I once had a problem of the A/C coming on and off (esp. on hot days) and hence not cooling properly. Apparently the A/C system was overcharged with gas! On hot days the the pressure would build up even more and a safety device would cut the system to prevent it blowing up.
GMH GTO
07-04-2004, 09:21 PM
Thats pretty overcharged, high pressure cut off is normally 450psi or so. I've never seen that high pressure happen from a mistaken overcharging.
That can cause compressor clutch damage, compressor will stay engagued in an attempt lower the pressure overheating the clutch.
was this on your 04 goat?
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