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JRM346
07-12-2004, 07:47 PM
Well, today I just picked up my IBM A4 from Magnuson Products in Ventura, CA. My car was the test vehicle for emmisions certification for the intercooled supercharger for the 04 GTO automatic trans. Two 6 speeds have been done, including the Arrowhead car of Howie posted on this site.. My car has a rough test tune on it now, and I am to work it out for a couple of weeks before the final tune. Currently at 5.5 psi boost. Extremely clean installation and absolutely seamless performance, just like a factory s/c, only a lot faster (my wife has a Buick Regal GS) The Magnuson is an animal from 40 to 100. I have not toasted it from a dead stop, but it performs very well with TC on, and a full throttle shift fron 1 to 2 with TC off was 12 feet of rubber, sideways a bit and a scream that blended well with the s/c whine and the exhaust note.

The s/c makes no noise until you get on it, and then it sounds great!! I have no decals or stickers, but the whine will be a give away if anyone can get close enough to hear. I will post pics and the dyno chart, if I can get it, in a couple of days. The great news is that it adds, in my case, and the rough tune, 91.3 rear wheel hp (262 to 353.3, both at 5500 rpm,) and 96.7 lb ft torque (285.6 to 382.3, both at 4250). I think the Magnuson dyno is conservative, since tha base 262 seems low and the car has never been slow. Only 1500 miles, thouigh, and I run on 91 octane rot gut from California.

The Magnuson r and d director was very impressed with the GTO version of the 4l60-E, saying that the Aussies obviously upgraded it a lot. This is from someone used to working with Corvettes and GM trucks in many applications. Way sweet the way the drivability is enhanced with tc on.

More to come on this.




PadreGTO
07-12-2004, 07:57 PM
More to come on this.
And you better! Awesome. :hail:

I agree the stock numbers are a little low (262), but perhaps it's just a matter of break in. I dynoed 285 at 3000 miles. Mine gets smoother every day, even after my mods.

Get thee to the track and let's see how she does! :cool:

Padre

GMH GTO
07-12-2004, 10:52 PM
Very cool :hail: need more GTO owners like you and padre.

Are you gonna take it to the track anytime soon?

mistermike
07-12-2004, 11:06 PM
Sounds great! 5.5 seems a bit conservative. I had heard numbers like 7 psi knocked around in the past. (no pun intended) I have no personal experience with SC of any type. Is the car otherwise stock?

READYtoROCK
07-13-2004, 04:07 PM
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww man.........................I'd kill for a supercharger and some complimentary mods! :-punch:

Unfortunately it will probably be a year or two after the 2005 comes out before the aftermarket has some good stuff out for the LS2. :cry:

JRM346
07-13-2004, 07:26 PM
I have been street driving my s/c A4 for a couple of days and am very impressed with the ability of the GTO to put the power down. The car is right there with a mild dip into the throttle and seems totally factory except for the whine and the rush. I have a dyno sheet on the rough tune I am testing now, but it will not download to the site because it is too big. I am recruiting help and will be posting pics and more in a couple of days. Car looks totally stock and has no other mods except intercooled Magnuson s/c package, which has a lot, and a K&N panel. Had to lose my CS pipe, but the Magnuson pipe is cool. See the Arrowhead pics. Package looks same as that except for a new intercooler reservoir. More later. Yes, Padre, I will get to a track. Closest to me is L. A. County Raceway, kinda high desert, near Palmdale, CA. Best times before were 13.7, 103 in a Buick Regal 1987 Turbo, and this Goat is a much faster and quicker car.

PadreGTO
07-13-2004, 07:44 PM
More later. Yes, Padre, I will get to a track. Closest to me is L. A. County Raceway, kinda high desert, near Palmdale, CA.
Great report. You might also try Carlsbad. 50 more miles or so for you (and a drive through LA), but they have test-and-tune on Saturdays (unless it's changed). I raced there once a few years back during a visit to San Diego. I didn't particularly like it, but it was close to sea-level, so your times will be better. Of course, all of us will be running slower in the middle of the summer, even in SoCal.

Good luck, Padre

TprGTO-[Robo Fuzz]
07-13-2004, 08:18 PM
Car looks totally stock and has no other mods except intercooled Magnuson s/c package
Oh that's it just a S/C. :eek2: Tough mod to deal with.

READYtoROCK
07-14-2004, 02:59 PM
Oh that's it just a S/C. :eek2: Tough mod to deal with.

LOL...............................NO KIDDING!!!

phobos512
07-14-2004, 07:26 PM
I have been street driving my s/c A4 for a couple of days and am very impressed with the ability of the GTO to put the power down. The car is right there with a mild dip into the throttle and seems totally factory except for the whine and the rush. I have a dyno sheet on the rough tune I am testing now, but it will not download to the site because it is too big. I am recruiting help and will be posting pics and more in a couple of days. Car looks totally stock and has no other mods except intercooled Magnuson s/c package, which has a lot, and a K&N panel. Had to lose my CS pipe, but the Magnuson pipe is cool. See the Arrowhead pics. Package looks same as that except for a new intercooler reservoir. More later. Yes, Padre, I will get to a track. Closest to me is L. A. County Raceway, kinda high desert, near Palmdale, CA. Best times before were 13.7, 103 in a Buick Regal 1987 Turbo, and this Goat is a much faster and quicker car.

Let me know the next time you're planning a run in Palmdale and I will come down to take video and pictures. I would LOVE to see your setup.

Old Goat
07-14-2004, 08:51 PM
I GOTTA get me ONE a these! :hail:

JRM346
07-15-2004, 09:02 PM
Attached, I hope, is a picture I took today of the s/c installation on by IBM A/4. I have been reducing files to attach. The learning curve, etc.

PadreGTO
07-15-2004, 09:19 PM
Attached, I hope, is a picture I took today of the s/c installation on by IBM A/4.
SWEET! :hail:

Darnit, now I have to go to confession. Something about covetousness. ;)

Padre

miamio
07-15-2004, 09:28 PM
If they need another m6 to test I'm in Long Beach!!!!

BluGoatDvr
07-16-2004, 03:59 AM
The more I read about this kit the more I like it, but Magnacharger needs to work with us on the price a little. almost 6k on top of 30-34 for the car is a little much IMO

Dbluegoat
07-16-2004, 05:40 AM
Attached, I hope, is a picture I took today of the s/c installation on by IBM A/4. I have been reducing files to attach. The learning curve, etc.


OH.....SH!T MY WALLETS IN TROUBLE NOW


:hail: :hail: :hail:

TprGTO-[Robo Fuzz]
07-16-2004, 06:40 AM
Wait a minute, I think envy is knocking at my door now. That s/c setup looks awesome. Congrads.

Doc GTO
07-16-2004, 01:42 PM
So with the SC package it is the SC, intake pipe, and a K&N panel filter? Anything else? Do they reflash the stock ECU or chip it, ect?

Looks awsome!

JRM346
07-16-2004, 03:52 PM
Doc:

A good description of the MagCharger package is on the Arrowhead and TByrne sites and probably some other vendors also. I think Lingenfelter offers a MagnaCharger package too. Basically it is the s/c, liquid intercooler, intake manifold, intake pipe, injectors, radiator for the intercooler, reservoir for the intercooler (mounted above the battery) and extensive ECU work. Mine is going back for fine tuning the ECU on the dyno in 10 days. I added the K&N. The airbox is factory standard. The s/c casting is polished on mine. A factory looking silver finish is standard. The whole thing is very compact, as the intercooler is sandwitched between the s/c and the intake manifold. A driveshaft on the outside of the passenger side of the s/c allows the blower drive to be out of the way so the air can enter the engine front and center just like stock. All connections and parts look factory or better. A small amount of the underhood insulation blanket needed to be cut. Took a stock GOAT owner for a ride yesterday. He was completely blown away as how stock the car sounded and felt until, well, you can guess the rest. The shift from 2nd to 3rd at 85 is a jaw dropper with the pull in 3rd.

gtodoug
07-17-2004, 04:32 AM
Sounds awsome, my friend with his A4 dyno'd with and w/out nitrous this week. He put down 259.xrwhp. He has 1100 miles on his car. With the nitrous on it made 351.xrwhp and I forget the tq #'s. I need to see if I can scan his dyno so that I can archive it for us.

Dbluegoat
07-18-2004, 10:12 PM
Doc:

A good description of the MagCharger package is on the Arrowhead and TByrne sites and probably some other vendors also. I think Lingenfelter offers a MagnaCharger package too. Basically it is the s/c, liquid intercooler, intake manifold, intake pipe, injectors, radiator for the intercooler, reservoir for the intercooler (mounted above the battery) and extensive ECU work. Mine is going back for fine tuning the ECU on the dyno in 10 days. I added the K&N. The airbox is factory standard. The s/c casting is polished on mine. A factory looking silver finish is standard. The whole thing is very compact, as the intercooler is sandwitched between the s/c and the intake manifold. A driveshaft on the outside of the passenger side of the s/c allows the blower drive to be out of the way so the air can enter the engine front and center just like stock. All connections and parts look factory or better. A small amount of the underhood insulation blanket needed to be cut. Took a stock GOAT owner for a ride yesterday. He was completely blown away as how stock the car sounded and felt until, well, you can guess the rest. The shift from 2nd to 3rd at 85 is a jaw dropper with the pull in 3rd.
So you have not done any other mods correct?

JRM346
07-19-2004, 08:44 AM
Dblue:

No other mods.

Shocker
07-19-2004, 08:54 AM
that s/c is sooo sweet!!!

Dbluegoat
07-19-2004, 10:54 AM
Dblue:

No other mods.
please please please post some dyno #'s if you can........oh man i need one bad.......that pic just did it for me........ :hail: :hail: :hail:

one more thing......Could we get a sound clip of it too?

gto_in_nc
07-19-2004, 11:02 AM
JRM356,

How would you describe partial-throttle responsiveness?

JRM346
07-19-2004, 06:01 PM
I have the first dyno sheet which I will try to shrink and post. I am getting retuned and redynoed in a couple of weeks and will try to get a sheet to post re this. Magnuson put on a moderate tune for me to test for a couple of weeks. More power is expected. Part throttle response is very progressive and factory like. There is no lag, and the torque is right there at any rpm. I have a call into a sound clip guru and will work on it.

Dbluegoat
07-19-2004, 06:05 PM
I have the first dyno sheet which I will try to shrink and post. I am getting retuned and redynoed in a couple of weeks and will try to get a sheet to post re this. Magnuson put on a moderate tune for me to test for a couple of weeks. More power is expected. Part throttle response is very progressive and factory like. There is no lag, and the torque is right there at any rpm. I have a call into a sound clip guru and will work on it.

Yes please let us know how it progresses......Now if I can just dig up 6k from the mattress......How long was the install? Better or Worse gas mileage?
thanks :cool:

JRM346
08-25-2004, 11:42 AM
422 rear wheel horsepower at 6500 rpm. 406.1 foot pounds of torque to the rear wheels at 2750 rpm. These are my final numbers after Magnuson did a tune on my s/c yesterday and today. Car now has 2500 miles.

If you are new to this thread my car was a beta tester for Magnuson to extend its emissions certification on its intercooled s/c GTO package to auto trans 04 GTOs. My base numbers at 1500 miles were 262 h.p at 5500 and 285.6 lb ft at 4250. The last month I have been driving on a milder, less refined tune (353.3 hp at 5500, 382.3 at 4250.) Car is now smoother and significantly stronger. These dyno charts are hard to post, and I will try later. Torque is over 400 from 2500 to 5000 rpm. HP is over 400 from 5300. Best of all for us California residents, smog legal! My job this p.m. is to do some more testing. Wow.

Tails
08-25-2004, 11:44 AM
Nice numbers!!!!
:drink::drink:

phobos512
08-25-2004, 11:56 AM
422 rear wheel horsepower at 6500 rpm. 406.1 foot pounds of torque to the rear wheels at 2750 rpm. These are my final numbers after Magnuson did a tune on my s/c yesterday and today. Car now has 2500 miles.

If you are new to this thread my car was a beta tester for Magnuson to extend its emissions certification on its intercooled s/c GTO package to auto trans 04 GTOs. My base numbers at 1500 miles were 262 h.p at 5500 and 385.6 lb ft at 4250. The last month I have been driving on a milder, less refined tune (353.3 hp at 5500, 382.3 at 4250.) Car is now smoother and significantly stronger. These dyno charts are hard to post, and I will try later. Torque is over 400 from 2500 to 5000 rpm. HP is over 400 from 5300. Best of all for us California residents, smog legal! My job this p.m. is to do some more testing. Wow.

Max Torque at 2750RPM? Jesus! I gotta get me one of these suckers...Paying off the IRS may just have to wait a while.

Question - How much boost do they have you running now?

JRM346
08-25-2004, 12:08 PM
Regarding boost, I don't have a gauge installed, but it is the stock Magnuson, which I believe is around 6 psi. The guys that sell them would know. Forgot to tell you that the Magnuson R and D manager, Kevin, told me that they understood that the LS2 engine had a bunch of new computer codes, so it will take a while to crack them. Guess we 04 owners will have an edge for some time. Fine by me.

phobos512
08-25-2004, 12:21 PM
Regarding boost, I don't have a gauge installed, but it is the stock Magnuson, which I believe is around 6 psi. The guys that sell them would know. Forgot to tell you that the Magnuson R and D manager, Kevin, told me that they understood that the LS2 engine had a bunch of new computer codes, so it will take a while to crack them. Guess we 04 owners will have an edge for some time. Fine by me.

What did the whole setup cost you in the end - and did they give you a discount for being a guinea pig? Do they do installs for regular people that want them too or do I have to get some random greasemonkey to do it (I hope they can do it because Ventura isn't that far away from me).

Oh yeah, and this IS the only mod you have right (no exhaust mods or anything correct?)?

This combined with those JBA shorty headers and a nice exhaust should easily net 450+RWHP, which has been my goal. I don't know if I'm going to be able to wait for this till next year...

ydtrack
08-25-2004, 01:35 PM
I got to drive the other 6-speed S/C'd GTO after it came from Magnuson and I was smiling all night. :) It looks like the A4 puts up just about the same numbers. Now if I have been driving an IBM GTO I don't know if I could have given it back. :driving:

I don't know if the 05's are going to be able to get an SC with the higher compression of the LS2.

Anyway thanks for the info! How are those rear tires holding out? :p

JRM346
08-25-2004, 01:50 PM
I have no other mods. other than the Magnuson s/c, a K&N air filter and Mobil 1 5/30 oil. 91 octane Shell gas. The cost was less for me because I was a lucky A4 owner in the right place (Ventura) at the right time. Check with Magnuson or their dealers re installs. The rear tires, most fun with them, is hard throttle rolling starts and leaving long marks, not smokin, just goin.

mistermike
08-25-2004, 01:56 PM
422 RW with an auto is impressive indeed. Roughly 527 at the flywheel figuring 20% driveline loss. Would land the M6 at around 447 RWHP which correlates with Howie's 440 ish on a Dynojet. He tested lower on a Mustang Dyno on a different day, so apples to oranges there. I would have thought the torque #'s would have tracked a little higher, but still very nice.

Dbluegoat
08-25-2004, 02:38 PM
422 rear wheel horsepower at 6500 rpm. 406.1 foot pounds of torque to the rear wheels at 2750 rpm. These are my final numbers after Magnuson did a tune on my s/c yesterday and today. Car now has 2500 miles.

If you are new to this thread my car was a beta tester for Magnuson to extend its emissions certification on its intercooled s/c GTO package to auto trans 04 GTOs. My base numbers at 1500 miles were 262 h.p at 5500 and 385.6 lb ft at 4250. The last month I have been driving on a milder, less refined tune (353.3 hp at 5500, 382.3 at 4250.) Car is now smoother and significantly stronger. These dyno charts are hard to post, and I will try later. Torque is over 400 from 2500 to 5000 rpm. HP is over 400 from 5300. Best of all for us California residents, smog legal! My job this p.m. is to do some more testing. Wow.
OK LET ME PIC MY JAW UP OFF THE FLOOR..........I gotta get me one of these....no other mods? so you did not need anything else?....Its bonus time....might have to pay myself a nice fat bonus to get the s/c now rather than later.......oh and phobos dont worry I will let uncle same wait too I have already paid that bastard 15k this year.....we can be cell mates......

phobos512
08-25-2004, 02:44 PM
OK LET ME PIC MY JAW UP OFF THE FLOOR..........I gotta get me one of these....no other mods? so you did not need anything else?....Its bonus time....might have to pay myself a nice fat bonus to get the s/c now rather than later.......oh and phobos dont worry I will let uncle same wait too I have already paid that bastard 15k this year.....we can be cell mates......

See what I originally wanted to do was to get the headers and exhaust first and then get the S/C later on such that I could get the whole setup dyno tuned together...Economically that makes sense but I don't know if I want to wait :)

And even if I don't pay them I won't be going to jail...I have a payment plan...I was going to give them the last bit I owe in a lump sum...But maybe I'll keep with the payment plan and not...In any case, I'm not going to kick your ass or become your ***** on the first day, hehe :)

Wavydavy GTO
08-25-2004, 05:43 PM
That's great. I just ordered mine today and should have it installed by late next week. I'm up around 320 rwhp and 330 tq with the headers, borla, and LS1edit tune so I'm hoping to be around your numbers once its done and all the tuning is finished. Keep us posted on your progress and I'll put something out when I get some numbers. I'm glad the new tune produced such a nice increase. Mine has over 6k miles so I'm pretty well where I'm going to be in that regard. Best of luck.

Dave

Dbluegoat
08-25-2004, 05:48 PM
That's great. I just ordered mine today and should have it installed by late next week. I'm up around 320 rwhp and 330 tq with the headers, borla, and LS1edit tune so I'm hoping to be around your numbers once its done and all the tuning is finished. Keep us posted on your progress and I'll put something out when I get some numbers. I'm glad the new tune produced such a nice increase. Mine has over 6k miles so I'm pretty well where I'm going to be in that regard. Best of luck.

Dave
Hey Dave who is doing your install and where did you order it?

Dbluegoat
08-25-2004, 05:56 PM
One thing I noticed on the magnacharger website
http://www.magnacharger.com/faq.htm

items 10 and 16 say to not use a pulley or colder T-stat?........I see you have both Dave.....I wonder if they are just saying this to cover themselves or if it is indeed harmful when combined with the s/c.........

phobos512
08-25-2004, 06:52 PM
One thing I noticed on the magnacharger website
http://www.magnacharger.com/faq.htm

items 10 and 16 say to not use a pulley or colder T-stat?........I see you have both Dave.....I wonder if they are just saying this to cover themselves or if it is indeed harmful when combined with the s/c.........

The pulley they are talking about is not the same as the pulley in his signature. The pulley they are talking about in the FAQ is the one that the belt is wrapped around from the engine that drives the s/c - smaller = more RPM = more boost. The one in his sig is the accessory pulley that SLP and others make new ones of.

All in all, they're probably just covering their asses. It probably only matters if you are trying to get their $200 powertrain warranty, which any mod other than the s/c invalidates anyway.

Oh yeah, and...

1000 POSTS BABY :bubbrub

Wavydavy GTO
08-26-2004, 05:40 AM
Hey Dave who is doing your install and where did you order it?

Mike Norris of Norris Motorsports is doing the install. He's done a bunch of Magnusons. He's done everything that I didn't want to tackle and I've always been very happy with his work. Now if I can just get him to make a new T-shirt and add the GTO to the vettes and f-bodys he has on it...


As far as the other mods go. I believe the pulley question has already been answered. Yeah, I'm sure it's all about covering their six, but I can't see a colder t-stat doing anything but helping in this application. Anything to fight heat has to be a bonus. Mike has already done a lot of tuning to make it run cooler. Once he puts to s/c program in he'll go back and adjust/enhance it in LS1edit. He got an extra 50 rwhp for a Z06 last week over the installed tune on a Mag. He doesn't get radical, he just seems to have a knack for tweaking little things that add up. If he could just tweak about 500 lbs off the car I'd be really happy, hehe.

Dave

mistermike
08-26-2004, 06:10 AM
Mike Norris of Norris Motorsports is doing the install. He's done a bunch of Magnusons. He's done everything that I didn't want to tackle and I've always been very happy with his work. Now if I can just get him to make a new T-shirt and add the GTO to the vettes and f-bodys he has on it...


As far as the other mods go. I believe the pulley question has already been answered. Yeah, I'm sure it's all about covering their six, but I can't see a colder t-stat doing anything but helping in this application. Anything to fight heat has to be a bonus. Mike has already done a lot of tuning to make it run cooler. Once he puts to s/c program in he'll go back and adjust/enhance it in LS1edit. He got an extra 50 rwhp for a Z06 last week over the installed tune on a Mag. He doesn't get radical, he just seems to have a knack for tweaking little things that add up. If he could just tweak about 500 lbs off the car I'd be really happy, hehe.

Dave
Perhaps he might be agreeable to sharing the final table values for the benefit of those using LS1edit, HPtuners, etc. Dropping T-stat to 180 with appropriate fan reprogramming should not be an issue. Going lower becomes somewhat controversial because of degraded cylinder wall lubrication efficiency as you get colder and colder. For every mod, there's always someone who takes it too far.

JRM346
08-27-2004, 05:56 PM
Following the clue from a wise one on this site I hope now to post a dyno of my car as supercharged, before and after.

kbaba
08-28-2004, 04:19 AM
Anybody got a magnifying glass? The image is kinda small. I'm sold on the Magnacharger! I will be visiting Ventura in January and have it installed and tuned - I CAN'T WAIT - 422 RWHP and stock everything else. Now, that's a sleeper...

mistermike
08-28-2004, 04:35 AM
Anybody got a magnifying glass? The image is kinda small. I'm sold on the Magnacharger! I will be visiting Ventura in January and have it installed and tuned - I CAN'T WAIT - 422 RWHP and stock everything else. Now, that's a sleeper...
http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showpost.php?p=82541&postcount=15

kbaba
08-28-2004, 08:15 AM
Thanks!

Dbluegoat
08-28-2004, 11:43 AM
Would it be ok to pu on the s/c then the JBA shorties and then some qtp cut-outs? So when the cut-outs are open I would be getting extra power correct?

JCMGTO
08-28-2004, 06:07 PM
Well it's taken a bit to post, but I installed my MagnaCharger last week. It's on a M6 and I'll I can say after a week of driving is................Well actually I'm speechless. I'm also running LT's and no CATs. Hoping to Dyno in very near future. The best paet is I got the Silver, and most novices have no clue what's there and that it is not factory. And man is it a sleeper:):)

JRM346
08-28-2004, 06:53 PM
JCM:

Congrats!! One of us MagnaCharged Goat owners needs to get to the track. Yes, it is a real sleeper. Keep us posted.

GTO_TYRANT
08-30-2004, 09:43 AM
I was wondering what the total cost was for the s/c and install?

dcbingaman
09-05-2004, 09:46 AM
422 RWHP at 6500 on the STOCK 4L60E ???? HOLY CATS.....all my '05 envy just evaporated !! BTW I understand Magnason will also sell you a 3-year powertrain warranty on this thing. Holden must substitute some pretty tough parts in that transmission and rear end. How long did it take to install, (the 'Vette install instructions look like a real pain in the ass - you have to take the whole steering rack out). Could a shop do this in a couple days ? Also, does the EECU update change the shift algorithms in the A4 ?

JRM346
09-05-2004, 10:20 AM
dc:

2 days to install. I full day to tune for mine. Magnuson people and others have told me the GTO trans is pretty HD, more so than other 4L60Es. Shifting is changed, firmness, downshift and upshift points, but remains fairly stock in feel and drivability. I-2 shift with t/c off feels soft on hard throttle because of wheelspin.

dcbingaman
09-05-2004, 04:31 PM
I noticed that the Maggie dyno torque goes to 400 ft-lb at 2750 rpm and stays flat as a board all the way to ~ 5500 rpm. Is this is a scheduled characteristic governed by the bypass valve, timing, etc. to keep all the twisty bits off the pavement ? Do they also increase the f/a to cool the cylinders at max. boost ? Does this thing invalidate the instantaneous gas mileage calculation shown on the dash or does that also get updated with the ECU tuning ? With that torque characteristic, this thing must pull like a pack of mules !!!

phobos512
09-05-2004, 04:49 PM
422 RWHP at 6500 on the STOCK 4L60E ???? HOLY CATS.....all my '05 envy just evaporated !! BTW I understand Magnason will also sell you a 3-year powertrain warranty on this thing. Holden must substitute some pretty tough parts in that transmission and rear end. How long did it take to install, (the 'Vette install instructions look like a real pain in the ass - you have to take the whole steering rack out). Could a shop do this in a couple days ? Also, does the EECU update change the shift algorithms in the A4 ?

They do offer the extended warranty for $200 but if you have any further modifications to the driveline that warranty is invalidated (so I've been told by some of the retailers), so for the majority of us mod crazy whackos it's useless. :)

gtoinlv
10-18-2004, 10:17 PM
I've been beated in street runs by both an '04 Cobra and a '04 WRX STi...both by the same owner too....is the Magnacgharger going to make the difference...what will 0-60 be in a M6?

GOT ME SOM
10-30-2004, 01:07 PM
Mike Norris of Norris Motorsports is doing the install. He's done a bunch of Magnusons. He's done everything that I didn't want to tackle and I've always been very happy with his work. Now if I can just get him to make a new T-shirt and add the GTO to the vettes and f-bodys he has on it...


As far as the other mods go. I believe the pulley question has already been answered. Yeah, I'm sure it's all about covering their six, but I can't see a colder t-stat doing anything but helping in this application. Anything to fight heat has to be a bonus. Mike has already done a lot of tuning to make it run cooler. Once he puts to s/c program in he'll go back and adjust/enhance it in LS1edit. He got an extra 50 rwhp for a Z06 last week over the installed tune on a Mag. He doesn't get radical, he just seems to have a knack for tweaking little things that add up. If he could just tweak about 500 lbs off the car I'd be really happy, hehe.

Dave

Dave your car you should be running really good now, I'd like to see that car in person. Any track times? Have you been to any MCO shows lately?

SURFGZR
02-03-2005, 06:33 PM
I have no other mods. other than the Magnuson s/c, a K&N air filter and Mobil 1 5/30 oil. 91 octane Shell gas. The cost was less for me because I was a lucky A4 owner in the right place (Ventura) at the right time. Check with Magnuson or their dealers re installs. The rear tires, most fun with them, is hard throttle rolling starts and leaving long marks, not smokin, just goin.

I was also set for a Magnuson install in January, but the car wasn't broken in.

Now considering a March install. Anything you would suggest?

rogercheri2@aol.com

AKA SURFGZR

JRM346
02-03-2005, 07:57 PM
I am going to Magnuson next week for the latest tune and upgrade. I suggest the s/c after at least 1000 miles, (I had 1500) and an oil change to synthetic. I did this and it has been seemless. No oil consumption. No problems. Huge power. This will be my third tune as my car was the first A4. There is reportedly another 40 hp on the table, and the time pulling situation is being addressed. Yes , I am really looking forward to this one.

phobos512
02-04-2005, 06:16 AM
Keep us updated JRM. I may be pulling the trigger on one of these in the next month or two ( I hope I hope :) )

Dbluegoat
02-04-2005, 06:43 AM
Keep us updated JRM. I may be pulling the trigger on one of these in the next month or two ( I hope I hope :) )
I would wait until they get the problems fixed....

kick_*ss
02-04-2005, 08:14 AM
I love the M/C but agree with dbluegoat ^^^^.
Or find someone that can tune a S/C for yah.

phobos512
02-04-2005, 08:30 AM
That has been my intent but I may just not be able to wait...Unless of course there's a timetable out there on when they might be happy...But it doesn't seem like it at this point...Sometimes I get impatient :)

Dbluegoat
02-04-2005, 08:38 AM
That has been my intent but I may just not be able to wait...Unless of course there's a timetable out there on when they might be happy...But it doesn't seem like it at this point...Sometimes I get impatient :)
well they say they are working on it now, a new tune and some xtra parts......I would wait if you can

ddawson
02-04-2005, 11:38 AM
Has anyone received the updated tune and parts yet?

My kit is shipping next week with the updates. I placed the order in the middle of December :banghead:

kick_*ss
02-04-2005, 01:16 PM
Rockin Froggies :D

I may put that tune on to see what they did, doubt I will keep it though ;)

New PART???? What new part? As far as I can tell I have no mechanical issues, and I sure as hell not putting on a larger pulley.

Georgia Goat
02-04-2005, 01:49 PM
The new part is a different fuel rail crossover

JRM346
02-04-2005, 02:35 PM
Smaller pullies are always better. At least on the S/C end. :gr_jest:

kick_*ss
02-04-2005, 05:26 PM
Well then make one :D

So if this is a new fuel rail crossover, do we have to take it back to the shop that installed it?
I doubt I will, those hosers are not getting near my goat again.

Georgia Goat
02-04-2005, 07:48 PM
Put it on yourself. It can't be that hard. I did the complete install on my car. It wasn't that bad.

kick_*ss
02-05-2005, 06:20 AM
Put it on yourself. It can't be that hard. I did the complete install on my car. It wasn't that bad.

Trust me if I would have known I would have done it myself. I did the cam install with my buddy who is a mechanic, he mae me do the work and just told me what needed to be done and that wasn't that bad. Now I do everything on my SS. Basically it was OTJ training :D

I learned, no one touches the goat either now.

muldooh
02-08-2005, 11:29 AM
JRM346,
For some reason I'm not seeing links to your S/C photos, I would like to see what ya got there, because it sounds great.

JRM346
02-08-2005, 03:08 PM
:-patriot: Left my car at Magnuson today for the new tune and hardware. The posts on this site regarding the new tune and upgrade, done on the Hot Rod Magazine car, are accurate per what Magnuson told me. My car is an A4, so we shall see how it goes. I will post when I have driven it, hopefully this weekend. Even better, there should be some timed runs on the car next Tuesday or Wednesday. I understand the H R project car ran mid 12s at over 115. The tuner told me that the fuel map was switching with the old tune, and much more is now understood after doing some track tuning. Multiple hot dyno runs showed only minor power losses with the new tune. If the pics. of my s/c have expired links, I will post some new ones with the upgrade, and the ones in the VB Garage still work fine.

GTPprix
02-08-2005, 03:12 PM
The Hot Rod car is running nitrous now to cool the charge, just an FYI.

keypunch
02-08-2005, 03:23 PM
:-patriot: Left my car at Magnuson today for the new tune and hardware. The posts on this site regarding the new tune and upgrade, done on the Hot Rod Magazine car, are accurate per what Magnuson told me. My car is an A4, so we shall see how it goes. I will post when I have driven it, hopefully this weekend. Even better, there should be some timed runs on the car next Tuesday or Wednesday. I understand the H R project car ran mid 12s at over 115. The tuner told me that the fuel map was switching with the old tune, and much more is now understood after doing some track tuning. Multiple hot dyno runs showed only minor power losses with the new tune. If the pics. of my s/c have expired links, I will post some new ones with the upgrade, and the ones in the VB Garage still work fine.

What do you mean by switching of the fuel maps with the old tune?

JRM346
02-08-2005, 03:44 PM
The computer was switching from the normal premium fuel map to maps for regular or lower grade fuel and pulling timing to prevent detonation even though there was no detonation. This is my non-technical understanding.

keypunch
02-08-2005, 03:56 PM
The computer was switching from the normal premium fuel map to maps for regular or lower grade fuel and pulling timing to prevent detonation even though there was no detonation. This is my non-technical understanding.Thanks.Its my understanding after they complete the evaluation( perhaps it your car they are talking about) they plan on notification to all early buyers.Mine was installed in October and pulled good numbers 394 hp/400 trq.,top end falls off after IAT climbs and effects 3rd gear accel rate.Good for the first 8 or 9 seconds and then the heat takes over....thanks and keep us posted on your findings.Only have 1,000 miles on it since the GTO is stored for the winter.

Dbluegoat
02-08-2005, 08:35 PM
Thanks.Its my understanding after they complete the evaluation( perhaps it your car they are talking about) they plan on notification to all early buyers.Mine was installed in October and pulled good numbers 394 hp/400 trq.,top end falls off after IAT climbs and effects 3rd gear accel rate.Good for the first 8 or 9 seconds and then the heat takes over....thanks and keep us posted on your findings.Only have 1,000 miles on it since the GTO is stored for the winter.
I got mine in September.......#'s in sig and were done after car sat overnight....and track times sucked ass.


If the new tune and whatever else they do gets me low 12's with my other stuff I will be happy camper

dms
02-08-2005, 10:25 PM
Put it on yourself. It can't be that hard. I did the complete install on my car. It wasn't that bad.

Are your quarter mile times correct with the supercharger???? 13.3??
dms

keypunch
02-19-2005, 08:52 AM
What has developed regarding the new tune/parts to help improve performance of the previous units installed?

SoCal Goat
02-19-2005, 09:07 AM
What has developed regarding the new tune/parts to help improve performance of the previous units installed?

Still a few weeks away from what I've been told. They're waiting to get the A4 upgrades ready to release at the same time as the M6.

I've had GREAT customer service from MagnaCharger. I expect the great service will continue.

JRM346
02-19-2005, 10:43 AM
Magnuson is still working on my car, (A4.) The constant rain in Ventura County has made any testing impossible.

kick_*ss
02-20-2005, 10:50 AM
So is yours being used as a guinne pig for the new fuel rail and tune?

PLEASE post the results....