A4 Magnacharger Install Tomorrow

[Wavydavy GTO]

I'm dropping her off this evening and if all goes right (which it never does for me) I should have her back Thursday. I went and looked at it today, in all its satin glory. It has the black resorvior (sp?) for the intercooler like in the other thread. I guess its the new version. I'll post some numbers after it get it back.

For all of you guys with MPD hoods, I guess I'll be the guinee pig to see if the hood clears. I would hate the lose the extra 3-4 hp the ram air might give for a measely 125 hp, but sacrifices have to be made sometimes. I figure if it hits bad I'll just cut the bottom off of the plenum out and all the air rushing in through the scoops will hit the top of the s/c and maybe help keep it cooler??

Anyway, wish me luck and high horse power.

Dave

[Fast GTO]

Good, luck.

Could I ask how much this kit plus instal is running you?

[Wavydavy GTO]

I won't know until its done. I'll getting a break on the install because its the first one he's done but I won't know until we see how closely Murphy is watching and appying his law to me.

Dave

[Tails]

So much for me being able to use your 1/4 times anymore.........
:drink::drink:

[Wavydavy GTO]

Sorry, just get a Mag and you're back in. Also, you can use the ice from your beer cooler to cool down the s/c between runs. That's like getting twice as much use for the ice. The savings will add up and you can recover the price of the blower in no time.

[Dbluegoat]

Hey Dave can you ask Mike if he has any more in stock?

[GOATANATOR]

Make sure that mike removes the screen from the mass air meter this is very important because it wont make the power number if you dont. Makes a major differance in power. VERY IMPORTANT! Magnuson will have this step in there manual very soon.

[Wavydavy GTO]

Hey Dave can you ask Mike if he has any more in stock?
I'll ask him tomorrow when I see him. If not, he can get one in a couple of days. He ordered mine on Wednesday and got it Friday.

Dave

[Wavydavy GTO]

Make sure that mike removes the screen from the mass air meter this is very important because it wont make the power number if you dont. Makes a major differance in power. VERY IMPORTANT! Magnuson will have this step in there manual very soon.

I'll have to check, I might have already done that. If not, I'll tell him to do it. Thanks for the heads up.

Dave

[Dbluegoat]

I'll ask him tomorrow when I see him. If not, he can get one in a couple of days. He ordered mine on Wednesday and got it Friday.

Dave
sweet thanks......

[Wavydavy GTO]

Well, here is the day one update. The magnacharger is on and the car is running! I stopped by earlier and it looked great but they weren't done. It still needs to be tuned so I should have it tomorrow. Everything went very well so far. The MPD hood closes but it hits the front corner of the s/c. Fortunately it is an area that can be ground down enough to make it clear. It shouldn't even be noticeable.

They had to put the stock u/d pulley back on but who cares. It was on less than a month and Mike is giving me credit for it so I'm not out anything. In fact, the only thing I'm losing is the Speed Inc. Induction tube (Anybody want it, I'll make you a great deal on it. PM me). The new tube fits into the MPD box so I keep the functionality of the hood.

GOATANATOR: Yes, I had already de-screened my MAF so no problem there. Thanks for looking out though.

Here is the bad part, as some of you know, I'm a deputy here in Orange County (Orlando) and we are the target of Hurricane Francis. I was supposed to be off this weekend so I could really test out the car. Well that is probably going to change. After Charley I worked nine days straight and this one might be worse if it hits like they predict (guess) it will so who knows when I'll get to drive it. I should at least be off Friday so I'll try to cram all the pictures and driving impressions I can for everyone then.

I'll post something tomorrow when I pick it up. Take care.

Dave

[mistermike]

Those extrey ponies might come in handy if you have to outrun Francis. Might make a good kill, if you're just mindin' yer owwwwwwn b'ness. :D

[GTPprix]

Dave good luck with the weather man!! I'll have to drop by and check out that gorgeous poncho next time I'm in Orlando :)

[Wavydavy GTO]

Those extrey ponies might come in handy if you have to outrun Francis. Might make a good kill, if you're just mindin' yer owwwwwwn b'ness. :D

I would never advocate street racing but...if all that b*tch can do 145mph than she may just turn around and go the other way after I'm done with her! Hahaha.

[JRM346]

Dave:

Yes, take care regarding the big wind. Let us know when you can connect with your s/ced ride. The tune makes a big difference. The s/c and other mods will be a very potent goat, no doubt.

[Wavydavy GTO]

Dave good luck with the weather man!! I'll have to drop by and check out that gorgeous poncho next time I'm in Orlando :)
Yeah, shoot me an email when you come down. My wife is from Canton and works at a Chevy dealership so I'm sure she would love to chat with someone from "home". I'll see if there are any discounts to be had at the attractions.

Dave

['91 Formula]

Here is the bad part, as some of you know, I'm a deputy here in Orange County (Orlando) and we are the target of Hurricane Francis. I was supposed to be off this weekend so I could really test out the car. Well that is probably going to change. After Charley I worked nine days straight and this one might be worse if it hits like they predict (guess) it will so who knows when I'll get to drive it. I should at least be off Friday so I'll try to cram all the pictures and driving impressions I can for everyone then.

I'll post something tomorrow when I pick it up. Take care.

Dave

You better store that car in a steel storage container, Frances is coming right for ya. This looks really bad. Good luck.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ftp/graphics/AT06/refresh/ AL0604W5+GIF/021453W5.gif

[Tails]

Dave,
Don't be worrying about getting us those goat pics. We will wait.
:drink::drink:

[Dbluegoat]

Yeah at 8am on sunday on the map that mark is right over my house........

[Wavydavy GTO]

Thanks for all the well wishing, we may need it. I did however pick up the car today. All I can say is WOW! The dyno numbers were not as high as I would have liked but I think they are low due to the fact that the engine was pretty hot from the tuning and it was like 95 deg. out and it couldn't cool down. Forgive me I don't have the torque numbers but I'll get them.

The first run was 350 hp. Not bad but I was at 315 before. Mike got it up to 400 and about the same torque. So 85hp to the wheels is the first go around. JRM346 saw a decent jump after the second tune so I think when we fine tune it and its not blazing hot outside I should see it pick up. Oh yeah, that hurricane kind of hurried things along as well.

The car feels great though. It pulls hard all the way across the band. It sounds great too, but it fights for air time with the exhaust. I'll take some pics and get the dyno sheets in a few days, after the storm. I'll post some more details about the install soon. Take care everyone.

Dave

[Holeshot]

Thanks Good luck riidin the storm out

[GOATANATOR]

That stall converter is killing your numbers on the dyno, It is a known fact that your numbers will be alot lower with a 3500 stall converter than if you had a stock stall converter. Your combo should make 430-440 rwhp@ 7-8 lbs
on a 70-80 deg day.

[Wavydavy GTO]

Ok, I have all of my furniture from the patio in the pool. No loose items to go flying around the house. Ice, water, and beer. I think I'm ready for the storm. Of course I got called in to work tomorrow and Sunday but at least my wife is ready for it. So now I have a little time to post some pics of the s/c.

I went out driving last night, what a difference! It like the same car at idle and low speed driving. But push that little pedal on the right knid of hard and watch out! Smoke, sounds of burning rubber, and that banshee wail is all you see and hear. From a l slow rolling start it just explodes.

I got the dyno sheet from Mike and I'll try to post it later but the numbers were; 400.1 hp and 410tq. He did a run with the converter unlocked and the torque hit 435. I agree that the 3600 stall is hurting the numbers too. He's going to dyno it again when the engine is cold and the outside temps are lower. We should see an improvement with just that.

By the way, it turned out we did have to cut the hood to clear the throttle body. No big deal, now fresh air hits the s/c as well. I'll probably see if the guy who painted my hood can rig up some kind of "cup" like thing to seal it and still allow clearance. He used to do fiberglass fabrication for Greenwood Corvettes so if its possible I'm sure he can do it.

All in all I'm thrilled with the install and would encourage anyone near here to talk to Mike Norris about doing it to their car. Mike and his crew have my total endorsement. I hope the pics aren't too small, I haven't taken the time to figure out how to do so the picture comes up instead of the link.

This is probably my last post until Frances is gone so best of luck to everyone in its path and I'll do my best to keep everyone in Orange County safe. Take care.

Dave

[Dbluegoat]

Ok, I have all of my furniture from the patio in the pool. No loose items to go flying around the house. Ice, water, and beer. I think I'm ready for the storm. Of course I got called in to work tomorrow and Sunday but at least my wife is ready for it. So now I have a little time to post some pics of the s/c.

I went out driving last night, what a difference! It like the same car at idle and low speed driving. But push that little pedal on the right knid of hard and watch out! Smoke, sounds of burning rubber, and that banshee wail is all you see and hear. From a l slow rolling start it just explodes.

I got the dyno sheet from Mike and I'll try to post it later but the numbers were; 400.1 hp and 410tq. He did a run with the converter unlocked and the torque hit 435. I agree that the 3600 stall is hurting the numbers too. He's going to dyno it again when the engine is cold and the outside temps are lower. We should see an improvement with just that.

By the way, it turned out we did have to cut the hood to clear the throttle body. No big deal, now fresh air hits the s/c as well. I'll probably see if the guy who painted my hood can rig up some kind of "cup" like thing to seal it and still allow clearance. He used to do fiberglass fabrication for Greenwood Corvettes so if its possible I'm sure he can do it.

All in all I'm thrilled with the install and would encourage anyone near here to talk to Mike Norris about doing it to their car. Mike and his crew have my total endorsement. I hope the pics aren't too small, I haven't taken the time to figure out how to do so the picture comes up instead of the link.

This is probably my last post until Frances is gone so best of luck to everyone in its path and I'll do my best to keep everyone in Orange County safe. Take care.

Dave
Goodluck Dave......

[GTOdriver7]

very sweet setup. i likeee

[JRM346]

Dave:

Dedication to the cause. Got your ride together under those conditions! Great pics. Sounds like things are getting dialed in well. Keep us posted.

[GTOdriver7]

nice avatar JRM

[cjlannoy]

Can you show a better picture of where the hood is cut?

[Wavydavy GTO]

Can you show a better picture of where the hood is cut?

I won't be able to take any more pics until the storm is gone but I'll try to describe it for now. As you look from the front of the car toward the windshield, the square area just under the scoops. The cut is about three inches square and is in the right corner closest to the front, near where the duct runs to the airbox hole. Look at the picture I already posted and see if that helps you find it on there.

Dave

[cjlannoy]

Thanks, I can kinda see it in your picture.

[Wavydavy GTO]

Well, its daylight and the storm is making its way to us. I'm in my patrol car and the wind is picking up quite a bit. Can you believe that I'm sitting on a perimeter for a safe job that we rolled up on? Freakin hurricane and the idiots are still at it. Only thing is that only ones out here are us and them, how stupid can you be. I'm hoping we get a dog bite for the aggrivation. Did I say that, I mean I hope it comes to a peaceful conclusion. Anyway, all is well so far. I'll keep you posted.

Dave

[mistermike]

I'm sure this storm will get a few droolers nominated for the Darwin awards. I just saw a guy on FNC who was surfing! Some areas, even the cops have been recalled.

[dcbingaman]

Dave, good luck with Francis - sounds like it could be more water than wind, but no fun with all the damage Charlie left. I hope your family is safe and you get some sleep this weekend. I'm looking at the Maggie, too, kinda makes my '05 envy disappear. BTW- where did you get that great license plate frame - I gotta have one !!

[mistermike]

Dave, where's the battery on that rig? Is it under the tank, or did you relocate it?

[phobos512]

Dave, where's the battery on that rig? Is it under the tank, or did you relocate it?

The intercooler coolant tank sits over the battery I believe.

[kick_*ss]

Make sure that mike removes the screen from the mass air meter this is very important because it wont make the power number if you dont. Makes a major differance in power. VERY IMPORTANT! Magnuson will have this step in there manual very soon.

Are you sure about this???

I just called the place putting mine in, and he had not heard about it.

I can tell you that removing that stupid screen of my SS was the worst thing I ever did, besides causing surging, it leans it out at least 7%, or at least you have to increase the maf by 107% rich when you remove the screen. I just put a new set of maf ends on and much of the headaches it caused are now gone. After reading several articles about how descreening the maf messes up how it read the airflow, and having first hand knowledge of what a PIA it is to tune after removing the screen. Sure would like to see MagnaChargers tune that compensates.

[GOATANATOR]

The tuner at Magna charger told me the HP gain from the first to the second tune on JRM346s auto car was made by removing the screen, the small meter will not flow enough air, you must remove it . It was tuned with out it. As far as removing the screens Z06 has no screen, SSR has no screen and the supercharger moves air so fast that the the only thing the screen does is get in the way, you just need to tune without it then its ok.

[kick_*ss]

Works for me, I happen to have the descreened ends already, so I am just dropping them off, if anything lucky I already polished the inside and out so it looks better then the stock one.

[CMNTMXR57]

Just out of curiosity, why do they use a black ABS molded box? A white/grey one is more condusive to easy and accurate checks of the coolant level.

[Georgia Goat]

Dave, what part of the SC is hitting the hood. I've got a MPD hood and was thinking about buying the SC but I hate to cut that hood.

[JRM346]

Kick:

Polished is always better.

[Wavydavy GTO]

Dave, what part of the SC is hitting the hood. I've got a MPD hood and was thinking about buying the SC but I hate to cut that hood.

It hits right around the plenum. That is the only part of the hood that is lower than the stock one. I look at it this way. I hated cutting the hood but to get 100+ hp is worth it to me. The guy who did the work on the hood is trying to come up with a fix like a molded piece that will seal the hole and still allow the ram air to work. He's very anal about his work so I'm sure whatever he comes up with will look good as well. I'll keep you posted.

Dave

PS, It looks like Ivan wants to beat on us for a while now, I'm never going to enough time off to enjoy the car! I'm over hurricanes.

[Georgia Goat]

I just bit the bullet and ordered the sc. I talked to my body man and he said we could come up with something to fix the hood. As far as the sc. what kind of numbers did you get with the tune that came with kit?

['91 Formula]

PS, It looks like Ivan wants to beat on us for a while now, I'm never going to enough time off to enjoy the car! I'm over hurricanes.

Dave, Good to see you back online. How bad is the damage by you?

You are right here comes another one.
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ftp/graphics/AT09/refresh/ AL0904W5+GIF/100853W5.gif

[Wavydavy GTO]

Dave, Good to see you back online. How bad is the damage by you?

You are right here comes another one.
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ftp/graphics/AT09/refresh/ AL0904W5+GIF/100853W5.gif

There are a lot of trees down and hundreds of houses with significant damage but we did ok considering the pounding that the east coast took. God really does hate mobile homes!

[Wavydavy GTO]

I just bit the bullet and ordered the sc. I talked to my body man and he said we could come up with something to fix the hood. As far as the sc. what kind of numbers did you get with the tune that came with kit?


I'm probably not the best one to answer that. I already had an LS1 edit tune on the car and the converter so I don't know how much of that was overwritten by the new program. My initial run only picked up about 50 hp but that quickly went up with tuning but I don't know what he had to tweek. Some of the others were more stock before the install and would probably give a more accurate number.