wheel idea

[jdo6696]

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/findWheel Detail.do?wd=19&pc=63984&rw=8&bp=5-120

anyone see these? they are 45mm offset so that should work out with minimal spacers if any. only downside is no staggered option for wider rears. you can do the interactive wheel shop, but its kinda off so a photoshop may be better.

what do you think? not too bad for 200 bucks a wheel.

[qwkgoat]

Those should look nice...do they come in 18s?

[jdo6696]

yeah they do, and actually the 18x9.5's come with 50mm offset, the 18x8.5's only come in 40mm offset, so they may need a spacer in front, but i am no expert on that issue. but looks like there is an option for a staggered setup.

[kctowboy]

Looks good... I Like...

[St.Mary]

This just became the best fitting wheel aside from the Roh Drift R's!!!!

Amazing find!

[MikeCig]

I love that wheel :yumyum:

[Yeller Jakett]

This just became the best fitting wheel aside from the Roh Drift R's!!!!

Amazing find!
Great Score. Had I known...

[Capo]

Nice find, I bet they would look pretty sweet. Drop down to their 18" and its less than 200.00 non chrome.
Liquid Metal Motosports
Static
18X8.5 5-120 40S
Finish: Silver, Silver powder coat with a glossy finish.
$155.00 ea.
http://www.liquidmetalmotorsports.com/
http://capo46.tripod.com/LiquidMetalMotosports_sma ll

[BigRedGoat]

heres a quickie photoshop of the wheels on a torrid red

[qwkgoat]

That's gonna look great!

[sccaGTO]

The 18"x8.5" with +40 offset should work without incident. The rear 9.5" wheels would work, if the fenders were rolled. Or you could make the rear suspension stiffer (not necessarily harsher riding). My 9" rears have a +50mm offset.

[smyla]

The 18"x8.5" with +40 offset should work without incident. The rear 9.5" wheels would work, if the fenders were rolled. Or you could make the rear suspension stiffer (not necessarily harsher riding). My 9" rears have a +50mm offset.

So 18"x8.5" with +40 offset with stock tire sizes should work all around with no fender rolling, spacers, or other mods? The reason I ask is that the website does not show them as an option for the GTO.

[sccaGTO]

So 18"x8.5" with +40 offset with stock tire sizes should work all around with no fender rolling, spacers, or other mods? The reason I ask is that the website does not show them as an option for the GTO.
I believe that other members have run the same combination without problems.

[berjet]

hey, anyone know weight of these??

[smyla]

hey, anyone know weight of these??

I would like to know myself, but the MFG website is useless. Not even an email address.

[jdo6696]

my guess is pretty close to the stock wheels since they are cast aluminum, but the spokes aren't as thick as the stockers so i may be wrong.

[berjet]

hey if you get them, pm me...i would love to see them.

[jdo6696]

yeah, i am thinking about it, at this point i am leaning towards headers before i get wheels. i'll definitely tell you if i get em.

[jdo6696]

In case anyone is wondering, i priced out a staggered setup for these in 18x8.5 front and 18x9.5 rear. its actually cheaper than the 19x8 all around that i had originally looked at. Nitto is the best priced for 235s that match the 275 rears.


Quantity Item Price Extended

(2) Nitto
275/40ZR-18 103W
NITTO NT 555 EXTREME PERF
$200.00 $400.00

(2)
Certificates for Free Replacement for Nitto NT 555 Extreme Performance

$24.00 $48.00

(4)
Valve Stems

$3.00 $12.00

(2) Nitto
235/40ZR-18 91W
NITTO NT 555 EXTREME PERF
$128.00 $256.00

(2)
Certificates for Free Replacement for Nitto NT 555 Extreme Performance

$15.50 $31.00

(2) Liquid Metal
18X8.5 5-120 40S
LIQ MET STATIC 08-8812-1
$155.00 $310.00

(2) Liquid Metal
18X9.5 5-120 50S
LIQ MET STATIC 08-8912-1
$165.00 $330.00

UPS Ground (Other Shipping Options) $0.00

TOTAL $1387.00

[smyla]

That's a great price on the combo. Did you happen to call them and ask them about fitment on the GTO. I notice that they don't list this wheel when I bring up wheels for the GTO.

[jdo6696]

Nope, but from what i have been seeing on here (example below), i dont think there would be much of an issue with fitment aside from getting the rear inner fender rolled to compensate for the 275s and 50mm offset. i would only be worried about the fact that the front is only 40mm offset and is 8.5 inches wide whereas our stockers are 8 inches wide.


The 18"x8.5" with +40 offset should work without incident. The rear 9.5" wheels would work, if the fenders were rolled. Or you could make the rear suspension stiffer (not necessarily harsher riding). My 9" rears have a +50mm offset.

[04A4GTO]

heres a quickie photoshop of the wheels on a torrid red

Can you do that to a Yellow one??

[sccaGTO]

Nope, but from what i have been seeing on here (example below), i dont think there would be much of an issue with fitment aside from getting the rear inner fender rolled to compensate for the 275s and 50mm offset. i would only be worried about the fact that the front is only 40mm offset and is 8.5 inches wide whereas our stockers are 8 inches wide.
I think you mean that you would need the outer lip on the rear fender rolled. The Nittos might barely clear in that set of measurements. I can't figure this scenario out: When I first got a set of ROH Drift Rs, I got the 9" rear wheels. They had a +50mm offset. Only the Toyo T1-S (now T1-R) was tested to fit without rubbing the rear fender. I went with the Mastercraft Avenger ZHP tires. They rubbed under hard turning. My WS6 wheels are 9" in the rear with the same +50mm offset. I am using Fuzion Zri tires with not noticable rubbing. :confused: Maybe there is a difference in the design of the tires' shoulders. BTW, why would the 8.5" wheels on the front worry you?

[djdub]

Here's some pricing on 18 x 8.5s all around. This may be a silly question though but is 235/40 the right size for the 8.5" rim?


Quantity Item Price Extended


(4)
Falken
235/40ZR-18 95W REIN
FALKEN ZIEX ZE-512 B
$120.00 $480.00


(4)
Valve Stems
$3.00 $12.00


(4)
Certificates for Free Replacement for Falken Ziex ZE-512
$14.50 $58.00


(4)
Liquid Metal
18X8.5 5-120 40S
LIQ MET STATIC 08-8812-1
$155.00 $620.00


FREE UPS Ground Shipping (Other Shipping Options) $0.00



TOTAL $1170.00

[sccaGTO]

Here's some pricing on 18 x 8.5s all around. This may be a silly question though but is 235/40 the right size for the 8.5" rim?
With the 8.5" rim & a +40mm offset, a 245/40R18 should fit with no problems.

[BigRedGoat]

Can you do that to a Yellow one??

yup, here you go.

[berjet]

With the 8.5" rim & a +40mm offset, a 245/40R18 should fit with no problems.

but up to what - camber setting do you think?

[Capo]

:stickpoke Lets go jdo! Pull the trigger man!

[sccaGTO]

but up to what - camber setting do you think?
Without actually being able to look at the car with that wheel/tire combo on it, I can't say for sure. I would imagine -1* would be the limit.

[BlueFlyingGoat]

I think they didn't list them for the GTo because they are not hub centric.:confused:

Not sure that's a huge issue, but thought I'd mention it.

[berjet]

Without actually being able to look at the car with that wheel/tire combo on it, I can't say for sure. I would imagine -1* would be the limit.

damn, that sucks. I do have the escentric strut tops and longer wheel studs for spacers. I still need someone to cut me some custom 1/4" hubcentric spacers though.

[04A4GTO]

yup, here you go.


Sweet man, I might get these in a couple weeks!!! Thanks!!

[04A4GTO]

Ok, so I just got off the phone with one of the toolbags at discount tire and he said that they wont fit. He said the fronts would stick out past the fendor. He said the rears probably wouldn't work either.(I know that rolling the rear fendor is a given) Is he speaking the truth??

[sccaGTO]

Ok, so I just got off the phone with one of the toolbags at discount tire and he said that they wont fit. He said the fronts would stick out past the fendor. He said the rears probably wouldn't work either.(I know that rolling the rear fendor is a given) Is he speaking the truth??
They may stick out from under the fenders just a little. But, that is the customer's decision. Most places like Discount Tire just don't want you trying to send the wheels back. They don't want to have to go through the refund work.

[jdo6696]

I think you mean that you would need the outer lip on the rear fender rolled. The Nittos might barely clear in that set of measurements. I can't figure this scenario out: When I first got a set of ROH Drift Rs, I got the 9" rear wheels. They had a +50mm offset. Only the Toyo T1-S (now T1-R) was tested to fit without rubbing the rear fender. I went with the Mastercraft Avenger ZHP tires. They rubbed under hard turning. My WS6 wheels are 9" in the rear with the same +50mm offset. I am using Fuzion Zri tires with not noticable rubbing. :confused: Maybe there is a difference in the design of the tires' shoulders. BTW, why would the 8.5" wheels on the front worry you?

yeah, thats what i meant, thanks. the only reason the 8.5" concerned me was because i didnt know if the extra 1/2 inch would make any difference in clearance issues on the front struts combined with the 40mm offset. wheel tech is not my specialty, come to think of it, i don't really have a specialty, but that's why i come here to learn.

your WS-6 rims look sweet on your Goat btw.

[jdo6696]

:stickpoke Lets go jdo! Pull the trigger man!

Dude, i am, i am. I am ordering Kooks as soon as the tax return gets here :wiggle: .

[Capo]

lol, I know, I know... still waiting for my return as well! To be honest, Im waiting to see what comes of Snafu's deal on the AZA's. I really like the Z2's.
Kooks... nice! Are you going to do the install?

[sccaGTO]

yeah, thats what i meant, thanks. the only reason the 8.5" concerned me was because i didnt know if the extra 1/2 inch would make any difference in clearance issues on the front struts combined with the 40mm offset. wheel tech is not my specialty, come to think of it, i don't really have a specialty, but that's why i come here to learn.

your WS-6 rims look sweet on your Goat btw.
I can go through the long technical process of explaining that the 8.5" wheels won't cause a problem, but I don't want to bore you to death. Also, thanks for the wheel compliment.

[berjet]

Dude, i am, i am. I am ordering Kooks as soon as the tax return gets here :wiggle: .

so are you getting headers or wheels?

[jdo6696]

lol, I know, I know... still waiting for my return as well! To be honest, Im waiting to see what comes of Snafu's deal on the AZA's. I really like the Z2's.
Kooks... nice! Are you going to do the install?

I like those a lot too, especially if they are making them in the right offsets to allow for a 9.5 or 10 inch wheel in the rear, I will be finding cash for those in a hurry if they do.
Yep, I am getting some help to install them here at the house. I have been thinking of doing something with the shifter too, but the headers have kinda put that on the back burner for now. I will let you know when they are in so you can check them out if you want.

[jdo6696]

I can go through the long technical process of explaining that the 8.5" wheels won't cause a problem, but I don't want to bore you to death. Also, thanks for the wheel compliment.

I would actually like to know, so you wouldn't be boring me at all. So, if you want to explain it, by all means go for it.

[jdo6696]

so are you getting headers or wheels?

Just the headers for now man. How is yours coming btw?

[sccaGTO]

I would actually like to know, so you wouldn't be boring me at all. So, if you want to explain it, by all means go for it.
OK, you asked for it. Let's start with a visual aid.

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/attachment.php?attach mentid=32788&stc=1&d=1144620119

Wheel width is simple. The wheel centerline is where you measure offset. A +40mm offset means that the mounting pad of the wheel (where the wheel & the car's hub meet) is 40mm towards the face of the wheel. Negative offset would place the mounting pad towards the back side of the wheel. For the wheel you guys are looking at, here is how it would compare to the stock GTO wheel:

GTO wheel: 8" wide (203.2 mm)--offset +48mm
To find out how much of the wheel will be under the fender & whether you will get strut rub, this is the math you have to do.

Divide width in half (203.2 / 2 = 101.6mm)
Add the offset (101.6 + 48 = 149.6mm)

The aftermarket wheels you are looking at would be like this:
Width: 8.5" (215.9 mm)--offset: +40mm
Divide width in half (215.9 / 2 = 107.95mm)
Add the offset: (107.95 + 40 = 147.95mm)

This means that from the hub to the strut, the aftermarket wheel will be no closer to the strut than the factory wheel.

[jdo6696]

cool man, thanks, that helped a lot. i will save tbat for future reference.

btw, i am probably going to the nationals meet, hopefully i can check out your wheel setup in person.

[sccaGTO]

cool man, thanks, that helped a lot. i will save tbat for future reference.

btw, i am probably going to the nationals meet, hopefully i can check out your wheel setup in person.
You're welcome. If you want to go to the Nationals, you could get together with some of us in Nashville on July 11th. We are gonna caravan up to Louisville. I have a link in my sig.

[jdo6696]

I would like to do that, I'll have to mapquest it to Nashville from KC to see and let you know.

I threw a post into your caravan thread.

[tim87tr]

OK, you asked for it. Let's start with a visual aid.

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/attachment.php?attach mentid=32788&stc=1&d=1144620119

Wheel width is simple. The wheel centerline is where you measure offset. A +40mm offset means that the mounting pad of the wheel (where the wheel & the car's hub meet) is 40mm towards the face of the wheel. Negative offset would place the mounting pad towards the back side of the wheel. For the wheel you guys are looking at, here is how it would compare to the stock GTO wheel:

GTO wheel: 8" wide (203.2 mm)--offset +48mm
To find out how much of the wheel will be under the fender & whether you will get strut rub, this is the math you have to do.

Divide width in half (203.2 / 2 = 101.6mm)
Add the offset (101.6 + 48 = 149.6mm)

The aftermarket wheels you are looking at would be like this:
Width: 8.5" (215.9 mm)--offset: +40mm
Divide width in half (215.9 / 2 = 107.95mm)
Add the offset: (107.95 + 40 = 147.95mm)

This means that from the hub to the strut, the aftermarket wheel will be no closer to the strut than the factory wheel.

You seem to really understand what fits on the GTOs. I understand your math, but am concerned that an 18x8.5 on all four corners would be a problem on the outside of my car, which has King 1/2" drop springs in front and King springs in back. Rear fender lip is rolled but I'm thinking about having that repaired due to the paint cracking problems. Any suggestions on fit? Thanks