ok gun owners....give me suggestions on a good handgun for home protection...

[pharmdgto]

I am moving to Peoria and have a .22 rifle but alot good that will do when someone is trying to break in. I need a recommendation on a decently priced, RELIABLE handgun for home use. A laser sight would be kick ass too.....seriously though any suggestions???

[GTOMYGOD]

H&K Tactical .45... expensive but..
Dont even have to hit anyone, if they see the barrel and/or hear it roar, they will make themselves scarce..

[myred2004gto]

Ruger .40Caliber, nice weapon with stopping power and not as much kick as a larger weapon. But each person has his/her own opinion on this subject.

[speeddemon]

anything .45 caliber.....just looking down the barrel will scare them away

[FoMoGo]

For home protection look for knock down without overpenetration.
Are you familier with handling a pistol?
If not a revolbver may be a good idea.
Taurus Tracker in .45 ACP
If you are familier with pistols and would be comfortable with an auto... look into a 1911 style pistol.
Either way load with a fast expanding hollowpoint.

I have my pistol in the house... but my first choice for home defense in my 18" barreled Mossberg 12 gauge with duplex shot.


Jim

[Superwildcat]

Try one of these;
http://www.impactsites2000.com/site3/loneeagle.htm
:judge:

[FoMoGo]

Try one of these;
http://www.impactsites2000.com/site3/loneeagle.htm
:judge:
Single shot with overpenetrating rounds...
Unless this was a joke... :P


Jim

[Roadmaster]

I shoot a .40 Glock 27 with Trijcon night sights. The reason I like the 27 is because I can use the larger frame magazines and basically have three guns in one.

The base magazine holds 9 rounds and is compact enough to fit in a pocket.

The Glock 23 magazine holds 13 and is still small enough.

The Glock 22 magazine holds 15 and is what I keep in the gun at home.

In my opinion, the .40 round shoots much more like a 9mm, but with much more punch. Easier on the recoil than a .45, but with higher compacity and a little less power.

Althogh, as some will say, the best defense at home is a nice shotgun.

Best,

[Cool_Hand_Luke]

+1 on the .45 for handgun.

another +1 for the shotgun. Less aiming needed in low light/ high intensity situations.

Don't forget the loud Mo Fo alarm system for your property. That first line defense should keep most would be thieves at bay.

[gr8fully]

44mag revolver, shoot .44 special though, less kick and will still knock down a horse. I prefer the s&w mountain gun......

[jeremyc74]

If you're just going to keep it stuck under the bed, I wouldn't dump lot of cash on it. Just about anything you get will make enough noise to scare the shit out of anyone trying to get into your house.

I'd probably go with a .38. I don't feel that knockdown is a huge issue for home protection. If you put a hole in someone who is trying to steal your TV, it's doubtful that they will continue to come after you.

As was mentioned earlier, the pump shotgun is hard to beat. Jack a shell into the chamber and chances are the situation is resolved without ever fireing a shot. Personally I'd still try to get one or two off at them, but at least you have the option. :gr_jest:

[SunsetHawkSelena]

my husband has a Lorcin and he loves it. but don't ask me specifics cuz i don't know jack about guns. one day i do want him to take me to the shooting range tho so i can start learning.

[MacDogg]

You're gonna need something that can shoot through the front door. You never know who is gonna be knocking these days. If someone looks wierd, blast a hole through the door and knock them down.
Then stand over them and say "You got knocked the fu%$ out!"

[jeremyc74]

44mag revolver, shoot .44 special though, less kick and will still knock down a horse. I prefer the s&w mountain gun......

I lived in this cabin in the mountains for a while, and I kept a Super Black Hawk between the matresses.

I had this GF that had been staying with me a couple of nights a week for about a month.

I would sometimes get bears on the porch in the trash cans, and would have to run them off with a warning shot. The .44 was perfect, because you got a good amount of fire to go along with a hell of a lot of noise.

One night we were just nodding off, and I heard something on the porch. I rolled out of bed, snatched the .44 from between the matresses, and the girl FREAKED OUT! I mean she lost it. :bomb: I told her to STFU for a second, and it turned out to be just a couple of coons on the porch.

After that though, I had to keep the .44 in the sock drawer. A lot of women get crazy over sleeping on a big gun :gr_jest:

[FoMoGo]

As was mentioned earlier, the pump shotgun is hard to beat. Jack a shell into the chamber and chances are the situation is resolved without ever fireing a shot. Personally I'd still try to get one or two off at them, but at least you have the option. :gr_jest:
I cleared a crowd of lil thug wannabees by just racking the slide on the mossberg.
If you are up to no good... the last thing you want to hear is a pump cycling nearby.
One reason that police carry the 12 gauge pump is intimidation factor.


Jim

[volaciousGTO]

Get something powerful... If you shoot someone you don't really want the chance that they could still pull a gun and shoot you back.

[gotzaGTO]

desert eagle .50 CAL.... a hand cannon, that'll stop anything!

[boomangto]

This might slow someone down:
http://duncanlong.com/science-fiction-fantasy-short-stories/50ae.htm

edit: oops a little late

[quicksilver26]

I've got a reissue Colt .45. It's no joke. Lightweight, reliable, and blows big holes in things.

-Mike

[wrp]

I keep a 12 guage Remington Automatic handy (unplugged). If I have to use it I want to tear the Fvcking walls out of the house but don't want a 9mm slug hitting my neighbor's good looking wife in the butt.

I've got a reissue Colt .45. It's no joke. Lightweight, reliable, and blows big holes in things. -Mike I'd love a Combat Commander.

[Swampgoat]

As already mentioned, the 12ga pump is way to go, especially if not a highly experienced handgun shooter. Interior of house at 2am is harder than the range. This weapon is much safer for high density areas than a 9mm zinginging off the floor tiles and catching the neighbor in her house!!
My Mossberg is rugged, simple and reliable.
Pump gun, 18' barrel, pistol grip, all factory made. Indestructible plastic or metal.
I love a good handgun, but in the night, half asleep, strange or NO lighting available, the big boom is hard to beat.

[Swampgoat]

Dayum we were both typing the same thing at the same time....my phone rang, came and finished, posted and saw WRP's post.

Well, that explains that tingly feelin'.....

[TprGTO]

Glock 21, .45 with hollow point rounds.

[KID]

Can't beat a 1911 45 ACP

[wolfdogs]

Glock 21, .45 with hollow point rounds.

or the new Springfield Armory XD .45 acp.

i got one to add to my collection a little over a month ago... very very reliable easy to shoot .45 takes the recoil very well, my wife shot it and had no problem. has good safety systems too:

http://www.springfield-armory.com/prod-xdpstl-45acp.shtml

you dont want something like a .357, .44 magnum, .50 cal...etc... not for in house protection.... if you miss, the bullet can go through the wall and hit something or someone on the other side... a .40 or .45 with a medium velocity hollow point is perfect, it will stop an intruder.

the other option is the 20 or 12 gauge home protection shotgun...

http://www.mossberg.com/pcatalog/Law.htm

[JohnF]

although a shotgun is nice if you plan on holding your position, in most cases houses have narrow hallways and sharp corners. so if you have to clear the house a handgun is usually a better option for these situations. if someone is hiding around the corner and your shotgun barrel comes pokin around before you its real easy to grab and pull down. check out some handgun and defense forums for more advice.

and as for me i keep a glock 19 near me when i sleep :)

[SgtGTO]

A GLOCK 22 .40 CAL...GOOD RELIABLE GUN, EASY TO CLEAN, FAIRLY ACCURATE...AND MOST OF ALL DECENTLY PRICED. AVERAGE; A BRAND NEW ONE WILL RUN YOU ABOUT $499.

A KIMBER .45.... A MEAN, NASTY @$$ GUN, SHOOTS EXTREMELY ACCURATELY, VERY RELIABLE....HOWEVER THE PRICE TAG IS LOOKING ABOUT $650-$700 FOR THAT GUN.

or the new Springfield Armory XD .45 acp.--Like WolfDogs said.

Then you can always go with the ultimate home invasion protector----a REMINGTON 870 :gr_devil: :judge:

[MaximumPwr]

Sig Sauer P229 in 40cal. Great pistol, easy to work, easy to clean, but sadly Sigs aint cheap.

[wolfdogs]

although a shotgun is nice if you plan on holding your position, in most cases houses have narrow hallways and sharp corners. so if you have to clear the house a handgun is usually a better option for these situations. if someone is hiding around the corner and your shotgun barrel comes pokin around before you its real easy to grab and pull down. check out some handgun and defense forums for more advice.

and as for me i keep a glock 19 near me when i sleep :)

i keep a wolfdog near me when i sleep..... the guns are 3 seconds away though....LOL

the thing about handguns, and i dont have to tell you because it sounds like you are exerienced, is that you have to hit what you are shooting at. during a break in, people are paniced and the adrenelene is flowiing... if one plans on protecting his home with a handgun, go to the range often, get familiar with the weapon and proficient in your shooting... many times, an intruder is armed too, you might not get a second shot...

with the wolfdog and 3 golden retrievers in the house, thats the best alarm system we could ask for.... if "he" wants to break in and try and come thru that....they'll be a laser dot on "him" before he clears the first dog... LOL

[TurboManiacal]

I am moving to Peoria and have a .22 rifle but alot good that will do when someone is trying to break in. I need a recommendation on a decently priced, RELIABLE handgun for home use. A laser sight would be kick ass too.....seriously though any suggestions???

Shotgun would be better and safer for your neighbors.

[TurboManiacal]

I keep a 12 guage Remington Automatic handy (unplugged). If I have to use it I want to tear the Fvcking walls out of the house but don't want a 9mm slug hitting my neighbor's good looking wife in the butt.

I'd love a Combat Commander.

Keep the first shot out of the chamber (You know this) if for anything else the sound of a shotgun loading one into the chamber is the most unique sound in the world and will give second thought to all but the most drug addled person in the world. Only takes half of a second.

[B/STOCK]

Whatever handgun you get forget about the laser sight and get a handgun with a rail that will mount a tactical light with a pressure switch. The good lights are a little pricy but worth it. Most are so bright that they temporally blind the intruder, then you can shot them. Don't put the light on till you have a good feeling of where the intruder is. You don't want to give away your position.

[KWBSales]

http://www.kwbsales.com/DSC01072.JPG

[houston_four]

For home protectio nothing beats a 12 gauge with 00 buck shot! Handgun wise I am a police officer and love my Sig Sauer P226. I think sig is even selling them with the laser grip. They are a bit more expensive though.

[TprGTO]

Then you can always go with the ultimate home invasion protector----a REMINGTON 870 :gr_devil: :judge:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a20/TprGTO/121_21 332.jpg
Pistol grip/synthetic stock, 10 round combat magazine extension.

[pharmdgto]

Alright you guys sold me on the shotgun. I will probably pick up a handgun as well. I will be living alone and not to say the area is bad or anything, as luck would have it I have a state trooper that lives across the street and and FBI detective down the road. I just want something for my own protection. An alarm system is a must and will be one of the first things to do. The problem is Peoria has its areas and I am the kind of person that doesn't really care about the value of my house per se (gonna buy a slab starter home for 69k) but I have a detached garage and the goat will be in there and also I like to have high def tv's and shit like that in the house. I will have all new appliances and such delivered so anyone will be able to see a ton of store trucks moving brand new things in the house.

I used to shoot alot growing up in West Virginia when I was younger but haven't been around guns for quite a while. I will probably have to take a class or two on safety and usage if that stuff exists ( I know the safety does, but is there such thing as firearm usage class or whatever...stupid question but if your gonna have em I would think its a must..)

Thanks again guys/gals

[smyla]

Another +1 for a shotgun. Go with as short a barrel as legal. Mount a flashlight on the barrel. A sling is good so it's not easy to take away from you.

Other pluses, Good knock down power, low penetration (safer for the neighbors), easy to aim, good intimidation factor. On the last point, remember that 10 times as many criminals are "discouraged" by just the site of a gun that are shot at.

[IceBreakerG]

I have an HK .45 USP Compact. Very very good weapon. It's only jammed on me a couple of times while i was at the range. But the jams were caused by the cheap ammo, not the gun. It's not cheap though, set me back about $867, but it was definately worth it. Also, the Springfield XD series is a good choice too, plus they even have an XD-45 with a 12rd magazine (my HK has an 8rd magazine).

[teamgs]

+1 on the shotgun. If you are going that route, what about this model?:

http://www.compfused.com/directlink/1206/

Berreta Xtrema2 - 12 rounds in under 2 seconds. :eek:

Gary

[barkingspud]

Ok....Shotgun is best but use some type of birdshot as buck will overpenetrate. You don't want to shoot someone in another room through a wall. If you want to use a handgun, use Glaser Safety Slugs. They are the safest option as they won't penetrate a wall or richochet around in the house if you hit the floor or something else hard.

You also need to invest in some REALLY GOOD hearing protection like Wolfs Ears. They amplify sounds under a certian level and instantly squelch anything over 100db. If you fire a weapon inside your house in a small room you WILL do permanant damage to your hearing and most likely be deaf (been there done that and I'm sure those serving on the sandbox who've seen some action can attest). Sure it's better to be alive and deaf that dead with good hearing but why risk it.

[wolfdogs]

http://www.kwbsales.com/DSC01072.JPG

you prefer the GAP over the ACP for home? curious.

[rearview]

.410 Derringer.... load with birdshot. Will inflict hella-wound, but not penetrate the drywall and jeapordize those in other rooms.

also, laser sights give the badguy something to aim at in the dark...

[Swampgoat]

Ok....Shotgun is best but use some type of birdshot as buck will overpenetrate. You don't want to shoot someone in another room through a wall.

You also need to invest in some REALLY GOOD hearing protection like Wolfs Ears. They amplify sounds under a certian level and instantly squelch anything over 100db. If you fire a weapon inside your house in a small room you WILL do permanant damage to your hearing and most likely be deaf (been there done that and I'm sure those serving on the sandbox who've seen some action can attest).

Those Wolfs ears sound cool!!
I just figgered a home defense shot would be deafening...no time to don the range safety gear.

I keep #6 birdshot in mine, with a couple buck at the bottom.

[GT_Owned]

Glock 21, .45 with hollow point rounds.
exactly what i have. w/ m6 tac light and laser

[A04GTO]

See if there is a gun store near you with an indoor range that will let you try before you buy that way you can see what works best for you. I also recomend you check out some websites like glock.com

I personally use a Glock 23 with Federal Hydra-Shock (hollow point) Bullets. If 14 of those can't stop what I'm shootin' at then I'm in trouble!

[Groucho]

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/smaw-c1.jpg

[SgtGTO]

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a20/TprGTO/121_21 332.jpg
Pistol grip/synthetic stock, 10 round combat magazine extension.



:gr_devil: YAAAAAY Baby. That is one sexy @$$ shotty!

[swmn]

+68 on a pump shot gun with bird shot. If the 'click-thunk' doesn't stop them bird shot will do the job without messing up the drywall too bad.

[StormSigma]

Am I the only one who would rather have a pistol for home defense instead of shooting my place up with a shotgun?

[FoMoGo]

Am I the only one who would rather have a pistol for home defense instead of shooting my place up with a shotgun?
At normal home defense ranges... a shotgun does not spread a great amount.
Usually 12-18 inches of pattern.
Also... would you rather spackle the wall a little bit... or miss the intruder due to dark, excitement, them moving quick?
One of the big things abut the shotgun is its intimidation factor. You normally dont even have to use it.
As to the length of a shotgun, I saw a post about the gun leading you thru the house, hold it with the stock on the outside of your trigger arm... and holding the side of the stock to the outside of your bicep. this shortens the gun up, and you can still manage the recoil well.
If someone manages to grab your barrel, pivot so that they are in front of the muzzle... and squeeze a round off... they should let go quick enough :D


Jim

[HRJ]

Glock 21, .45 with hollow point rounds.
I was going to suggest that exact pistol......except with FMJs. I want to be able to shoot through the wall if I have to.

[TprGTO]

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a20/TprGTO/121_21 422.jpg
Glock 21.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a20/TprGTO/121_21 412.jpg
Loaded with Law Enforcement hollow point rounds.

[rferr]

Walther PPK .380 and a 12 gauge.

[Groucho]

http://www.ducatalog.com/catalog/images/du/6D-618006.jpg

On second thought...you'll put an eye out, kid.

[TprGTO]

http://www.galenfrysinger.ws/movies/christmas_stor y_b.jpg

[barkingspud]

In all honesty, I'm not going to look for ANYONE who's broke into my home an night. The FIRST thing you do is collect your family and get them into a single designated place and call 9-1-1. I've been there folks!

Late one night, the Wife saw someone at the back door with a flashlight. I armed myself with my Combat Commander (with Glaser Safety Slugs) had her call 9-1-1 and proceeded to make my way to the back door (it was Christmas and there was a 15' Tree in front of the door and I was in my underwear).Well, I knocked the tree over when I opened the door, and immediatly had two "intruders" at gunpoint.

They both had flashlights on me. I told them to turn off the lights or I would fire, they then said, "This is the Hoffman Estates PD, please drop the gun before WE open fire". We had a standoff, They finally turned off their lights I got a good at them and confirmed they were PD. Needless to say, I set the gun down and we all had a little talk. It seems that I tripped my silent alarm in the house and they responded.

They were pretty cool about the whole thing. After they left, I wrote a letter to the Chief of Police commending them on their very professional response.

Folks, I'm not some dipstick with a gun, I've been trained in Anti Terrorist tactics (in a former life), I wasn't thinking clearly which can happen to anyone. At this point, I'd prefer to have a safe room in the house and go there if someone breaks in while I'm home, hell, they can have everything material in the house, I'm insured.....

[KWBSales]

you prefer the GAP over the ACP for home? curious.
WD:
Ballistics between the two are almost identical, but the grip on the frame of the 37 (.45 GAP), is smaller than that of the 21 (.45 ACP). For someone that prefers the smaller grip frame (like that on the 9mm and 40 S&W Glock pistols), but wants the larger .45 caliber round with a light rail...the model 37 makes sense. This is why I chose Glock 37 for the "nightstand" pistol of my choice.
For CCW, I usually carry one of the 1911 style pistols below: Les Baer TRS (hard chrome), Les Baer TRS Commanche (hard chrome), Wilson Combat Sentinel (hard chrome).

http://www.kwbsales.com/DSC01203.JPG

[JohnF]

i keep a wolfdog near me when i sleep..... the guns are 3 seconds away though....LOL

the thing about handguns, and i dont have to tell you because it sounds like you are exerienced, is that you have to hit what you are shooting at. during a break in, people are paniced and the adrenelene is flowiing... if one plans on protecting his home with a handgun, go to the range often, get familiar with the weapon and proficient in your shooting... many times, an intruder is armed too, you might not get a second shot...

with the wolfdog and 3 golden retrievers in the house, thats the best alarm system we could ask for.... if "he" wants to break in and try and come thru that....they'll be a laser dot on "him" before he clears the first dog... LOL

i agree 100 percent, definitly familiarize yourself with WHATEVER weapon you decide on buying.

[gr8fully]

I was going to bring up glazier safty rounds for not blowing a hole in the neighbors house, but barkingspud already did! Still say you can't beat a good old .44, but a 12 pump is also a good thing to have at bad times

[Timcredible]

i prefer a handgun over a shotgun for ease of moving around (tough to get around corners with a shotgun), but that's a comfort level thing. as for the load, i would suggest something that doesn't go through walls so you don't end up killing your neighbors and going to jail. i personally go for stopping power, so a .45 would be nice, but if you feel the need for more rounds, get something smaller. as for shooting through your closed front door, that'll land you in jail real fast. i lived in normal, il for many years (30 miles from peoria), and i think the best thing you could do is move. peoria is nowhere near as bad as east st. louis, but there's plenty of smaller towns within 20 minutes that would be better places to live.

[slacker]

i have a highpoint 9mm, good gun for a very cheap price

[GT_Owned]

for home defense, i've always wanted to try some of those "exotic" shotgun rounds. they come in pepper blast, stun flashes, etc. does anyone know what im talking about, or better yet, has anyone ever used them?

[Scurvy]

I'm gonna be different and say get a CO2 charged taser gun. You can get in quite an amount of trouble if you shoot an unarmed intruder with a gun.

[jwd]

H&k P7

[Yeller Jakett]

I would recommend a layered defense. First of all good locks and an alarm system. Secondly, and my favorite, nature's sentries - dogs. I pity the fool who comes into my home uninvited. They run frontal defense while I secure the family, call the cops and retrieve the firepower. If they still insist, shoot from cover and have an escape route. Insurance can cover most things. It's the things you value the most that matter.

As far as the shotgun vs. handgun debate goes. At night an intruder will see a shotgun before a handgun and realize their predicament sooner. An advantage for you. Handguns are good because they are easier to wield in close quarters. I prefer the handgun because it's what I'm trained in and what I compete with so I'm more comfortable with it. If you do go with a shotgun I (and this is only me talking) recommend something with a short barrel. Although I sold it, my Benelli M1 would have been perfect.

Good luck and hope you never have to face that situation.

But have a plan...

$.02

[Yeller Jakett]

I'm gonna be different and say get a CO2 charged taser gun. You can get in quite an amount of trouble if you shoot an unarmed intruder with a gun.
Not in Texas!

[TprGTO]

for home defense, i've always wanted to try some of those "exotic" shotgun rounds. they come in pepper blast, stun flashes, etc. does anyone know what im talking about, or better yet, has anyone ever used them?
http://matrix.dumpshock.com/raygun/ammo/shotgun/dr agonbt.html

[pharmdgto]

I have a german shepard but nothing an intruder can't put a bullet through and move on. Screw the justice system if some asshole is in my house and I put a bullet in them and get in trouble for it. I know the laws sometimes favor the perp instead of the general public, but honestly what are you supposed to do? I sure in the hell aren't going to go "hey is someone there robbing me??" "are you there, because I can hear you?" Just so you know I am going to shoot you now, is that ok?" F that...come in my house un-invited especially at 2 am and your going to probably have a bullet go flying somewhere. Now some common sense comes into play and you just don't start doing a "matrix" scene in the house...but seriously...

[Yeller Jakett]

I have a german shepard but nothing an intruder can't put a bullet through and move on. Screw the justice system if some asshole is in my house and I put a bullet in them and get in trouble for it. I know the laws sometimes favor the perp instead of the general public, but honestly what are you supposed to do? I sure in the hell aren't going to go "hey is someone there robbing me??" "are you there, because I can hear you?" Just so you know I am going to shoot you now, is that ok?" F that...come in my house un-invited especially at 2 am and your going to probably have a bullet go flying somewhere. Now some common sense comes into play and you just don't start doing a "matrix" scene in the house...but seriously...
True, but the ugly truth of it is they will slow them down a bit while I retreat to the next layer. But also, dogs can alert you of an intruder even before an alarm...
I'm with ya on this one. Come into my home uninvited and it's a given your intentions are not honorable. AND shoot my dogs. You're done!
Continue discussion - it's time for a ****tail!

[-db-]

You can get in quite an amount of trouble if you shoot an unarmed intruder with a gun.

That's what the throw-away is for. No such thing as an unarmed dead intruder. Of course, I also support dragging corpses inside my home from outside if things go down that way, too. :secret:

[KenP]

Alright you guys sold me on the shotgun.

You can get in quite an amount of trouble if you shoot an unarmed intruder with a gun.

One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet i don't think.

If your an intruder, a slide action 870 makes the scarriest sound in the world.

If someone did break in, more than likely just chambering the round would do the trick of making said individual find his way outside. Now if he was armed, i'm not sure if this would make it a different story, the police officers in this board would be much better input in this than I.

However, sound goes around corners much better than a pistol. :)

And Scurvy is more than likely right, but i still think if it has to be a firearm, this helps the shotguns case. The "sound" effect should be good against an unarmed man, and you can setup the load of the shell to be more of a bad sting than a 3 inch hole.

EDIT: nm, i see jermyc74 hit on my point, damn! :)

[myred2004gto]

If you're just going to keep it stuck under the bed, I wouldn't dump lot of cash on it. Just about anything you get will make enough noise to scare the shit out of anyone trying to get into your house.

I'd probably go with a .38. I don't feel that knockdown is a huge issue for home protection. If you put a hole in someone who is trying to steal your TV, it's doubtful that they will continue to come after you.

As was mentioned earlier, the pump shotgun is hard to beat. Jack a shell into the chamber and chances are the situation is resolved without ever fireing a shot. Personally I'd still try to get one or two off at them, but at least you have the option. :gr_jest:


I dont think you have anything to worry about if you live on Singer Island,,lol. Nobody come's onto that Island without the police knowing it.

[MRIKE2000]

This will do the trick!!

Pharmdgto, I see you live in Illinois. I think you mentioned moving to Peoria soon. I have a nice collection of Hand Guns as well as tactical shotguns and assault rifles for sale. If you have your FOID card - I'm sure I can help you our with this at a great price. PM me, and we can set something up. My girlfriend lives in Springfield, IL about 1hr south of Peoria, So I am up that way quite often. Let me know..

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/attachment.php?attach mentid=32409&stc=1&d=1144114005

[USNGTO]

http://matrix.dumpshock.com/raygun/ammo/shotgun/dr agonbt.html

Shadow Run?:rolleyes:

[Roy V]

Benelli M4 alternating between buckshot, slugs and birdshot in the mag. You'll plow down any intruder or their buddies since it's semi-auto. Very deadly firearm. ;)


http://www.benelliusa.com/firearms/m4.tpl

[Roy V]

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/smaw-c1.jpg

LMFO :gr_devil:

[TXRaider]

Holy Cow, someone post a question about guns and look what happens!!! Pages of posts here. Word to the criminals: DON'T SCREW WITH A GTO OWNER!!!

For the record. Shot gun definately. Mine are all for hunting, but if you break in here, I'm gonna choose my Rem 870 Super Mag (12 ga) with a 3 1/2" Goose load. Corpses don't sue.

[unsigned]

pharmd, do you have a FOID?

[pharmdgto]

I had a FOID but just need to renew it or re-apply. I meant to do that today. Cannot remember how long it takes to get it through though or where to do it...

[DEVLYLO]

9MM Mini Glock

[unsigned]

I had a FOID but just need to renew it or re-apply. I meant to do that today. Cannot remember how long it takes to get it through though or where to do it...

Here is the form:

http://www.isp.state.il.us/media/docdetails.cfm?Do cID=38

You need a passport type pic and a check. Takes about 2 weeks, tho the form states longer.

[pharmdgto]

Thanks

[loudvegas]

I have a question for you Glock owners. I have a 22 .40 and its loaded without one in the chamber. I dont have any kids around and I have thought about keeping it with one in the chamber. But we all know there is no "saftey" so Im not sure.

Bad idea?

[unsigned]

When are you leaving? I've got a fine bunch of firearms that you could shoot, but gotta have the FOID...

[pharmdgto]

ROFL...its asks you if your mentally retarded?? I would probably consider that to be somewhat offensive to handicapped people....

[pharmdgto]

When are you leaving? I've got a fine bunch of firearms that you could shoot, but gotta have the FOID...

Oh I won't be gone until the first week of may. I will get that form out ASAP so hopefully I get the card by the end of the month. I am getting my 10-22 back from my mom and need probaby a shotgun and a small piece for under my pillow...

[unsigned]

ROFL...its asks you if your mentally retarded?? I would probably consider that to be somewhat offensive to handicapped people....


Asks if you are addicted to illegal drugs too... Like someone would answer yes. :confused:

[pharmdgto]

Asks if you are addicted to illegal drugs too... Like someone would answer yes. :confused:

I could see that question but seriously it asks if your retarded. How many retarded people are going to be applying for guns?

[greyghost]

A very intimidating gun would be the S&W 50 cal 5 shot revolver

[unsigned]

Oh I won't be gone until the first week of may. I will get that form out ASAP so hopefully I get the card by the end of the month. I am getting my 10-22 back from my mom and need probaby a shotgun and a small piece for under my pillow...


Get the card and if time allows we'll go blast a cap or two at Bass Pro.

[pharmdgto]

Get the card and if time allows we'll go blast a cap or two at Bass Pro.

sounds good to me...on a side note even though its impractical and illegal probably but I always wanted a fully automatic ak-47 with 100 round banana clip just to tear some sh1t up...always was fascinated by that kind of stuff...probably would jam though...

[-db-]

I have a question for you Glock owners. I have a 22 .40 and its loaded without one in the chamber. I dont have any kids around and I have thought about keeping it with one in the chamber. But we all know there is no "saftey" so Im not sure.

Bad idea?

The semi-auto I keep at the house for home defense is stored/staged with a loaded full clip, an empty chamber and safety on. I've got no kids or any worries like that and while very familar with firearms (former USMC range coach, etc.) I'm also very safety conscious. You've got to figure it's only going to take a second or less to chamber a round and go safety off and have the weapon ready to fire. An empty chamber is always the best safety.

Much like a pump shotgun, the noise of a semi-auto pistol being racked can also serve as a deterrent to some idiot creeping quietly through your dark home- the sound is unmistakable. ;)

[unsigned]

sounds good to me...on a side note even though its impractical and illegal probably but I always wanted a fully automatic ak-47 with 100 round banana clip just to tear some sh1t up...always was fascinated by that kind of stuff...probably would jam though...

Vegas, its all about Vegas. There are places that let you do just that.

[B/STOCK]

http://www.kwbsales.com/DSC01072.JPG


I have the same light on a couple of weapons. Do you have yours on a pressure switch?

[pharmdgto]

We would go on shooting frenzies in the back 40 of my relatives house in west virginia. Was stupid ass hell no doubt and while the nearest house was probably a mile away, you never knew exactly if you hit anything or not...

[TprGTO]

http://www.machinegunshoot.com/images/Intro1_B_56. wmv

http://www.machinegunshoot.com/

[pharmdgto]

You are more likely to shoot someone you know or love with your guns than a so-called intruder. The above post is a perfect example. You're lucky the cops didn't shoot first. Them shooting you would have been justifiable. They would get get 1 week suspension with pay at the most. You shooting them? You would be your city's brand new "cop-killer" and would spend your life in jail getting ass raped by your new "friends".

Forget the gun. Get a dog and an alarm system. And in my case, a big boyfriend.

While I firmly believe the people kill people and not the guns, a big boyfriend or a dog is nothing against a robber with a motive and a gun. Both would be dead relatively quickly. Guns are great and a first ammendment right for use as hunting and self protection. An alarm system is great too but then again what if the cops don't come for 10-15 minutes or more. What if the robber kills your boyfriend then decides to rape the entire family. Everything has a time and a place. Nothing wrong with guns if you know how to use them....We don't live in a tree huggin utopian society.

[B/STOCK]

Am I the only one who would rather have a pistol for home defense instead of shooting my place up with a shotgun?

In the house I prefer a handgun. 15+1 with a tactical weapons light on a pressure switch in my right hand with a backup gun in my left hand down by my side. If your not confident you can hit someone at 20', or scare them away with 16 rounds you should have a dog not a gun.
I also want the first thing a intruder sees is the tactical light followed by the muzzle flash. I don't want them hearing the slide of a pistol or rack of a shotgun. I don't want to let them know what might be coming and give them time to prepare.
If I have to step outside I grab the M4 with the tactical light on the rail with the pressure switch mounted on the vertical grip. 30 round mag is enough but If I have any doubt I can switch the 30 out for a C-Mag. The C-Mag is a little heavy though. I prefer the 30 for routine stuff. Again, whatever you buy equip it with a tactical light with a pressure switch

[-db-]

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[pharmdgto]

Since I will be living alone (single) I just thought of buying an M60 with tripod and setting it up with a motion detector in the hallway. Should do the trick!

[B/STOCK]

While I firmly believe the people kill people and not the guns, a big boyfriend or a dog is nothing against a robber with a motive and a gun. Both would be dead relatively quickly. Guns are great and a first ammendment right for use as hunting and self protection. An alarm system is great too but then again what if the cops don't come for 10-15 minutes or more. What if the robber kills your boyfriend then decides to rape the entire family. Everything has a time and a place. Nothing wrong with guns if you know how to use them....We don't live in a tree huggin utopian society.

I agree with your post but check the amendment#. I don't think freedom of speech is deadly. Unless you can talk them to death.

[-db-]

You are more likely to shoot someone you know or love with your guns than a so-called intruder. The above post is a perfect example. You're lucky the cops didn't shoot first. Them shooting you would have been justifiable. They would get get 1 week suspension with pay at the most. You shooting them? You would be your city's brand new "cop-killer" and would spend your life in jail getting ass raped by your new "friends".

Forget the gun. Get a dog and an alarm system. And in my case, a big boyfriend.

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Your big boyfriend's with you 24/7? Think, think, think...

[PMD GTO]

For those worried about shooting intruders, just make sure you can articulate these key phrases for when you wind up in court.

"I thought he was going to kill me"
or
"I was in fear of my life"

or combine the two for added effect.

[pharmdgto]

I agree with your post but check the amendment#. I don't think freedom of speech is deadly. Unless you can talk them to death.

Yeah I goofed...2nd amendment...

[speeddemon]

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b331/srt4owner22 2/ak47yo.jpg
all your problems solved man:judge: If I broke into a house and had an ak pointed at me I would faint:drink:

[yellow04]

:secret: :secret: :secret: :secret: :drink:

http://www.warbirdpictures.com/ATC/ATC-GermanRailGun-1.jpg

[B/STOCK]

:secret: :secret: :secret: :secret: :drink:

http://www.warbirdpictures.com/ATC/ATC-GermanRailGun-1.jpg


I hate to say this but yours is bigger than mine.

[yellow04]

I hate to say this but yours is bigger than mine.


i do what i can LOL:)

[Raven1124]

Personally I kept a my 870 in my closet, my HK USP by my bed, and carry my Glock 27 off duty. The thing you should consider is the whole racking of the slide to scare away the intruder. It can be looked at in a couple different ways. I always kept my 870 ready to roll with a round in the chamber. I have no kids so I don't have to worry about that whole thing. Secondly, why would you want to give away you position by racking a round? If somebody breaks into my home, I'm going hunting. I don't want to take a chance of him not being scared by the racking of my shotgun. Just remember, a action is quicker than a reaction. Always be prepared and one step ahead of the intruder.

[Cool_Hand_Luke]

You are more likely to shoot someone you know or love with your guns than a so-called intruder. The above post is a perfect example. You're lucky the cops didn't shoot first. Them shooting you would have been justifiable. They would get get 1 week suspension with pay at the most. You shooting them? You would be your city's brand new "cop-killer" and would spend your life in jail getting ass raped by your new "friends".

Forget the gun. Get a dog and an alarm system. And in my case, a big boyfriend.


Sorry...wrong answer.


And how often is a gun accidently used in the death of an innocent member of the household or someone you know?

I'll save you the time of the rebuttal and inform you it is .8% of accidental death in the U.S. When you break that down by ALL causes of deaths it's almost nil. The amount of deaths resulting from "guns" is .5% That includes homicide. You are much more likely to kill your innocent family members with your car, bath tub, swimming pool, household chemicals, a fall down the stairs,and toys.
( Center for Disease Control and Prevention )

[KID]

Personally I kept a my 870 in my closet, my HK USP by my bed, and carry my Glock 27 off duty. The thing you should consider is the whole racking of the slide to scare away the intruder. It can be looked at in a couple different ways. I always kept my 870 ready to roll with a round in the chamber. I have no kids so I don't have to worry about that whole thing. Secondly, why would you want to give away you position by racking a round? If somebody breaks into my home, I'm going hunting. I don't want to take a chance of him not being scared by the racking of my shotgun. Just remember, a action is quicker than a reaction. Always be prepared and one step ahead of the intruder.
I Agree, I keep aspringfield 1911 fully loaded with one in the pipe, fully ****ed, with the thumb safety engaged for my home defense,For my everyday carry weapon, I carry a Walther P99 9mm fully loaded with a rd chambered, but de****ed, so the first rd fired is double action, I also have Wilson Tritium night sights on both weapons for low light, if your involved in a home invasion or car jacking if your weapon is not ready to fire, you might as well have a soup spoon for defense.

[supersportgsxr6]

Where in the world do you plan on living in Peoria? As long as you are not down in the west end on like Antoinette you should be fine. That being said, when I lived in Peoria, which I will be moving back in a year or two, my duty pistol was a Glock MOdel 21 .45. Loved the thing, but have since moved to the Glock Model 22 .40. Extremely durable, reliable, light weight, and they have a model for any need. I like the sights better than most other pistols, but I think I am biased a bit. Plus, in your case, you can slap on a tac light, or any other laser system you want.
Let me give you a little advice about where to live in Peoria...either up off off Knoxville and Pioneer PArk, or simply move to Dunlap, Morton or Washington. We ended up living in Washington and loved it. Great living, inexpensive housing and property taxes when compared to the other three, and the crime rate much lower.

[pharmdgto]

Where in the world do you plan on living in Peoria? As long as you are not down in the west end on like Antoinette you should be fine. That being said, when I lived in Peoria, which I will be moving back in a year or two, my duty pistol was a Glock MOdel 21 .45. Loved the thing, but have since moved to the Glock Model 22 .40. Extremely durable, reliable, light weight, and they have a model for any need. I like the sights better than most other pistols, but I think I am biased a bit. Plus, in your case, you can slap on a tac light, or any other laser system you want.
Let me give you a little advice about where to live in Peoria...either up off off Knoxville and Pioneer PArk, or simply move to Dunlap, Morton or Washington. We ended up living in Washington and loved it. Great living, inexpensive housing and property taxes when compared to the other three, and the crime rate much lower.

Found a place near bradley U. but north of it off of western and rohmann (there is a mcdonalds on the corner of western and rohmann). The area doesn't look bad but I still would like something just in case. I have been around chicago for the past 8 years and chicago's worst parts make Peoria's look like disneyworld, so I am not THAT worried...

[wolfdogs]

yall are scary.....but funny too........

[RAZE]

http://www.s1-alarm-systems.co.uk/images/alarm_keypad.jpg
http://www.compukiss.com/ck/assets/telephone%20118 .jpg

[pharmdgto]

http://www.s1-alarm-systems.co.uk/images/alarm_keypad.jpg
http://webclass.alexbarber.com/images_sources/tele phone.jpg

Read some of the posts above. Do you know what the average response time for the cops are?? I wouldn't put my life or my families life in the hands of the cops initially, especially when they don't just magically appear. More than likely if you have a piece then the intruder will recognize that it's not an easy theft and give up or at least you have something to keep em busy until the police does arrive....a gun is a tertiary level of defense IMO but a vital component.

[KWBSales]

I have the same light on a couple of weapons. Do you have yours on a pressure switch?
Nope, just the standard light with thumb activation. The only mods to the 37 (Besides the M3), are a 3.5lb disconnector, frame plug, and XS night sights (http://www.xssights.com/store/handgun.html).

[B/STOCK]

http://www.s1-alarm-systems.co.uk/images/alarm_keypad.jpg
http://www.compukiss.com/ck/assets/telephone%20118 .jpg


Unless you have underground utilities these are worthless. Any half ass thief is going to cut the phone lines at the junction box where they enter the home. These are almost always at about 4' off the ground. Renders these useless.

[RAZE]

Read some of the posts above. Do you know what the average response time for the cops are?? I wouldn't put my life or my families life in the hands of the cops initially, especially when they don't just magically appear. More than likely if you have a piece then the intruder will recognize that it's not an easy theft and give up or at least you have something to keep em busy until the police does arrive....a gun is a tertiary level of defense IMO but a vital component.

Sorry, but I'm not reading through 4 pages of responses. I know what the average response time for cops is here in NYC, but clearly I don't know a thing about where you live. If home invasion is such a threat in your neighborhood, then I'd just relocate.

[B/STOCK]

Sorry, but I'm not reading through 4 pages of responses. I know what the average response time for cops is here in NYC, but clearly I don't know a thing about where you live. If home invasion is such a threat in your neighborhood, then I'd just relocate.


Burglaries happen in the best of neighborhoods.

[Double_R_GTO]

Colt Anaconda

[pharmdgto]

Colt Anaconda

a bills fan...:-punch:

[Roy V]

OK, this should get rid of the underisables although it's 50 year old technology:

http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/arm/arm42.htm

[BrilliantRT]

Get a Shotgun for home protection. It is a better choice. I have a Saiga AK-47 Based Auto Shotgun for home protection... :)

[supersportgsxr6]

Found a place near bradley U. but north of it off of western and rohmann (there is a mcdonalds on the corner of western and rohmann). The area doesn't look bad but I still would like something just in case. I have been around chicago for the past 8 years and chicago's worst parts make Peoria's look like disneyworld, so I am not THAT worried...


No youre good, your on top of the hill. I know where youre talking, plus you'll have a good veiw of some of the Bradley women

[speeddemon]

I would have to say a compact pistol....but when I have the money I will probally buy a full auto ak....:gr_devil:

[pharmdgto]

I would have to say a compact pistol....but when I have the money I will probally buy a full auto ak....:gr_devil:

I would love to have a fully auto ak-47.

[pharmdgto]

No youre good, your on top of the hill. I know where youre talking, plus you'll have a good veiw of some of the Bradley women

Yeah that is the plan...single guy and all..wouldn't mind taking a few back to the pad...

[JCS30TH]

Pistol grip shotgun. Edit. wait the communist banned those years ago..............


Personally I have .357 loaded with mag-safe shells. If I ever had to shoot someone, I want the ****er gone..............

[roc]

Benelli M4 12ga Semi-Automatic Assault Shotgun. Accept no substitutes.

http://www.mts.net/~jhipwell/images/m4pistol.jpg

[Ramsey]

go with the kimber warrior/1911 .45. Marines operations command and LAPD swat can't be wrong. of course it will cost you anywhere from $1100+, but it is money well spent. Includes match grade barrel, match grade chamber, kimtech baked on teflon coating, custom grips, and rail system. easily mount a glock light/laser for about $250. H&K is good but you can only use H&K accessories, spendy. maybe look at Sig, most gun dealers will tell you that Sig is better than Glock. Of course this is all my opinion. or a winchester defender 12 ga. 8 shot is about $260, nothing like hearing a shotgun pump.

[KID]

I would love to have a fully auto ak-47.
A class three license to go with it, wouldn't be a bad idea either. :turbonaug

[marnepup]

If home invasion is such a threat in your neighborhood, then I'd just relocate.


Hmmm...from that, I deduce two things. One, you're a friggin commie bastard who thinks only criminals should have guns, and two, you have a severe case of vaginitis..."relocate", my a$$!


Hmmm....my four choices...mostly not for the faint of heart...or weak of wrist, for that matter:

1. Sawed off 10-gauge
2. .50 Desert Eagle (ok, I'd put this in any list:drink: )
3. .44 Super Blackhawk (my dad has one...SAWEET!)
4. .45 ACP

Only the last one is at all suitable for a non-gun-person...but seriously, if you aren't willing to train with a handgun, it's better not to have one in the first place, because if you hesitate and the intruder reads you like the open book that you are, he's going to take the gun from you and beat you with it...if you're lucky. If you have one, acquire the willingness and ability to use it properly!

[smyla]

I'm gonna be different and say get a CO2 charged taser gun. You can get in quite an amount of trouble if you shoot an unarmed intruder with a gun.

It's much better to be in trouble than DEAD!

[smyla]

You are more likely to shoot someone you know or love with your guns than a so-called intruder.

For every time a citizen used a gun in self defense there are literally DOZENS of times the mere presence of a gun "discourages" criminals and actually is the reason no one gets hurt. (citizen or criminal)

When living in a less then desirable area at one time of my life I can attest to a large shotgun as being the catalyst for avoiding a real problem on a number of occasions.

[DriveTOOfast]

You are more likely to shoot someone you know or love with your guns than a so-called intruder.
Forget the gun. Get a dog and an alarm system. And in my case, a big boyfriend.

Different strokes for different folks:stickpoke

Hopefully your "BIG boyfriend" has enough sense to have a pistol just in case his size doesn't deter a load of thiefs set on playing with his woman.

[B/STOCK]

It's much better to be in trouble than DEAD!


+1 smyla. I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

[Dangasaur]

Get a handgun from this guy:

www.summitgunbroker.com

90% of it is police trade-in. Any single one of those guns is fine for home defense or for a range beater.

Question answered.

[GTOTECH101]

XD-40 is a nice piece, I thought I wanted a Glock intil my coworking took me to the range and let me fire his XD-40!!! Wow, Glock 19 and a XD-40 side by side, XD-40 won me over!!!! The gun felt good in my hand!!!

[Sengdemund]

Kimber Tac-Pro II .45ACP > Someone in my house in the middle of the night

http://www.yesalbum.com/v001/sengdemund/kimber.jpg

[Z16Z06]

9mm is my choice, just keep the clips loaded and ready.

Was surprised not to see alot of people say the 9mm

Also make sure the sucker is all the way in the house when you waste that intruder, chances are they will bring charges on you if they are outside the house and you waste them on the porch or lawn.

[Tripower455]

If you a not too familiar with handling handguns, I'd say get a good quality, 4" .357 mag revolver, and use +P .38s for home protection. S&W, Ruger, Taurus and Colt are all fine.

I prefer autos most of the time, but the simple "manual of arms" for a revolver make them much better suited to the novice. I recommend the .357 because it is a bit more versatile than a .38, but either will do fine.

If you go auto, I'd go with something simple to use, like Glock, H&K (with LEM trigger) or SA XD in at least 9mm. .45 would be my first choice though. If you get a full sized gun, there is not much difference in recoil between a .40 and .45, as you get smaller, the difference is more pronounced, but still not that noticeable. The .40 is a very high pressure round, and i notice that the recoil is more of a snap, and the .45 more of a push, but this is definitely subjective, and all guns are different. My G-30 (sub compact .45) is much more pleasant to shoot than my G-27 (sub compact .40). The 30 is a bit larger than the 27, and the recoil is spread over a larger area, plus I can get my pinky on the grip for better control.

As others have suggested, for in house use, nothing beats a shotgun. I've got a 25 Y.O. Mossberg 500, and it has the 18" barrel on it all the time now.

I have kids, so I keep the G-27 in one of those safes with the electronic finger pad lock on it bolted to the headboard. If I have time to open the big safe, the mossberg will be the first choice though!

The best advice I can give is that no matter what you choose, take a basic NRA safety course and get some range time. Handling a gun is not brain surgery, but mishandling one can have the same results!

[Tripower455]

A class three license to go with it, wouldn't be a bad idea either. :turbonaug

Not necessary........ ;)

One doesn't have to be a dealer to legally own a full auto in most states.....:-patriot:

All that's required is a lot of money, no criminal reacord, 2 passport photos, 2 form 4s, your Sheriff's signature and a few months, and you're good to go...... :turbonaug

In fact, it was more hassle for me to own a Ruger MkII and a 1911 in NY than it is to own 2 Title 2 full autos and a suprresor in FL, and I am not a Class III, or any other type of FFL dealer.....

[FiXXXer024]

How bout this beauty... this is my buddy's F&N FiveSeven Tactical... the thing is a a beast.
http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/jboucek/USG/incase_ slideforward.jpg
http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/jboucek/USG/top_sli deback.jpg
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[KID]

Not necessary........ ;)

One doesn't have to be a dealer to legally own a full auto in most states.....:-patriot:

All that's required is a lot of money, no criminal reacord, 2 passport photos, 2 form 4s, your Sheriff's signature and a few months, and you're good to go...... :turbonaug

In fact, it was more hassle for me to own a Ruger MkII and a 1911 in NY than it is to own 2 Title 2 full autos and a suprresor in FL, and I am not a Class III, or any other type of FFL dealer.....
IF YOU SAY SO, I'M HAPPY.

[Tripower455]

IF YOU SAY SO, I'M HAPPY.

Usually, the CLEO signature (chief law enforcement officer....... most time the sheriff of your county. A DA or a judge will work too) is the stumbling block, but there are other ways to do it if he won't sign. TX is a pretty good "class 3" state btw...... ;)

[-db-]

How bout this beauty... this is my buddy's F&N FiveSeven Tactical... the thing is a a beast.

Andy's got himself quite a hand-cannon. Awesome rifle...er, I mean pistol. :)

[Tripower455]

I fired one of those Five Sevens a year ago. Neat gun, NO recoil and itty bitty holes on target.

IMHO, they are cool but fall into the same category as semi auto subguns.,..... Kind of cool, but no practical purpose. Not that that's a bad thing, mind you! ;)

[J.E.T.]

Hey, I grew up runnin' the streets of P-Town, nothing to worry about there. As far as home defense is concerned, ask any cop and he'll tell 'ya a dog is the best gun you can own. If you do decide on a gun make sure you get qualified to both shoot it and clean it.

JET

[B/STOCK]

9mm is my choice, just keep the clips loaded and ready.

Was surprised not to see alot of people say the 9mm




Many people think the 9MM does not have enough stopping power. Personally I think a 9MM with the right ammo is plenty. I like to keep my ammo inventory down to a manageable number of calibers, 22, 5.56 62 and 55 grain, 357 Mag 158 grain, 9MM 147 grain for the full size 9s and Speer short barrel +P 124 grain for the compact 9s, 38 Special +P Short Barrel for the S&W snub nose. For range work I use UMC 9MM and UMC 38 for the 38s and 357s.
All my self-defense hand gun ammo is Speer Gold Dot. With the new bullet technology I believe the 9MM has plenty of stopping power and am backed up by a recent FBI ammo ballistics study where the 147 Grain 9MM and other 9MM loads were acceptable while a lot of 357 Sig and 40 Cal loads failed to make the grade.
As I have stated before one of the most important accessories is a weapons light with a pressure switch. It leaves you other hand free for another gun. :thumbs:

[Hoss81]

For home protection look for knock down without overpenetration.
Are you familier with handling a pistol?
If not a revolbver may be a good idea.
Taurus Tracker in .45 ACP
If you are familier with pistols and would be comfortable with an auto... look into a 1911 style pistol.
Either way load with a fast expanding hollowpoint.

I have my pistol in the house... but my first choice for home defense in my 18" barreled Mossberg 12 gauge with duplex shot.


Jim


Agreed, I have a tauras tracker and a raging bull. They are very easy to fire and they are heavy enough that they don't kick to bad. If you are into spending money, you can always go for the Desert Eagle!! If someone sees that gun and doesn't run away they deserve to be shot.

[Scurvy]

whoa, holy one year later batman!

[seewiz]

Unless you are willing to spend hours and hours and $$$$$ at a range learning to shoot a semi-auto or revolver under stressfull conditions at 3 AM while groggy with sleep I suggest you forget handguns for home protection.
Invest a hell of alot less $$$ and buy yourself a Mossberg 12 Ga defender type shotgun. Throw the pistol grip away. It's useless. Buy a cleaning kit. Buy a few boxes of dove and quail bird loads (1 oz of 7 1/2 shot 1200 FPS). Go shoot it. Clean it.
A dove and quail load developes 2x the power of a .44 magnum at home engagement ranges of 6 - 12 feet but the pellets will generally carry thru only one wall before shedding all their energy. That will spare the lives of the other occupants of your home, the neighbors and local telephone poles.
NOBODY argues with a 12 Ga. I'm sure you've heard the sound of a shotgun racking. It's beyond intimidating. A pump shotgun is relaible and simple to use. Especially at 3 am in the dark when you're groggy.

[jonfor]

buy yourself a Mossberg 12 Ga defender type shotgun.

i keep a mossy 590 ready (and a 1911) because i live in crackville, USA.

[catch22]

Honestly, I'd buy a sword. Better close range, terribly effective.

I keep a training sword near my bed.

[seewiz]

Oh. And laser pointer is a nice bright line right back to you...bang you're dead.

[FDNY-L107]

My personal choice is a Glock 21. It will never fail on you......but again, what was well stated in many of the above posts.....just get yourself a shotgun.