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PHiL2
10-06-2004, 06:17 PM
Im contemplating the idea of getting a 100-150 shot for the gto.

I am just looking for others that might have it already that could adivse me....




PHiL2
10-07-2004, 08:53 AM
26 views and not one reply....come on people?/ :banghead:

Dean360
10-07-2004, 12:16 PM
I have a 75 wet shot. Its not all installed yet. Got the bottle mounted and the NOS feed line run. I am waiting for A MSD digital window then I will mount the solenoids and WOT micro switch. Kind of a custom setup.

PHiL2
10-07-2004, 12:30 PM
I have a 75 wet shot. Its not all installed yet. Got the bottle mounted and the NOS feed line run. I am waiting for A MSD digital window then I will mount the solenoids and WOT micro switch. Kind of a custom setup.


Finally....


I would definately like to see how ya make out with the setup. Post pics when ya can and keep me updated

thanks :hail: :burnout:

97GSTAT
10-07-2004, 06:20 PM
I'm serioulsy thinking about using the kit we had on our 02 Maxima on the GTO. It's an NX wet kit with all the creature features and safety devices. The thing I like is that NX makes a throttle body that is designed to be used with their kit, or any wet nitrous kit. Nitrous is defintely a good option for theses cars. It just sucks to go refill it every week. ;)

Dean360
10-08-2004, 12:17 AM
I will take some pics for you. Once I get it done I will be going to the dyno. Should all be done in a month, hopefully. :cool:

stonebreaker
10-08-2004, 09:39 AM
Nitrous is an extremely simple mod. There are all kinds of tweaks you can do to increase the power of the mod, up to and including specially designed heads, but a basic kit would consist of the nitrous system, fuel pump, and a window switch. The window switch turns the nitrous on in a certain rpm window, say, 3000-6000 rpm, then turns the nitrous off during the shift so you don't stress the tranny. The bigger fuel pump is more of a safety thing than a performance enhancer.

The thing you have to be careful of is exceeding the limits of the pistons. The figure you want to use as a limit on hypereutectic pistons is 300 BMEP (Brake Mean Effective Pressure). Using Desktop Dyno, I calculate you can safely activate a 100 shot of nitrous at 2000 rpm and a 150 shot at 3000 rpm, on a stock cammed engine.

04IBMGOAT
10-09-2004, 12:06 PM
I have a nitrous works kits i am selling if your interested. Its never been used and its adjustable 75-125. Let me know if your interested.

PHiL2
10-09-2004, 01:05 PM
I have a nitrous works kits i am selling if your interested. Its never been used and its adjustable 75-125. Let me know if your interested.


What kit specifically and how much?

TWO-TONS-OF-FUN
10-14-2004, 03:47 PM
Dry shot 125 stock everything

97GSTAT
10-14-2004, 04:35 PM
Just wondering, since I don't have alot of experience with LS1's, what's the normal max shot the LS1 can take? Keep in mind it's a NX wet kit, all the nitrous bells and whistles, and a MSD RPM windsow switch.

TWO-TONS-OF-FUN
10-14-2004, 05:39 PM
usually with timing pulled throught reprogramming and colder plugs and good gas on a cool night you can safely go 125-150ish dry and slightly higher wet any more and you start getting to the limit of hypereutectic pistons and stock rods. ill let ya know after this weekend

pill it till you kill it and take it to the dealer still smoking
just make very sure the kit and just about everything else is off the car. unless your boss is the service director and said do it LS-6 en-route for delivery

'91 Formula
10-15-2004, 05:23 AM
Dry shot 125 stock everything

What kit do you have? Any 1/4 mile times?

wheelburns
10-15-2004, 07:16 PM
any body using the n.o.s. noszle system never seen anyone with the kit very intrested

jagular
10-15-2004, 08:20 PM
The latest High Performance Pontiac has a new series on installing NOS in the GTO.

easternspeed
11-03-2004, 02:14 PM
I'm spraying the ZEX 125 shot in a Gravana Intake kit. Easy install. Flows past Granatelli MAF, FAST 78mm TB, Weiand/Lingenfelter ported Aluminum Intake, 30lb Accel Injectors, CNC Stage II heads, Direct Hits wire/plug ignition kit, Stainless works Long headers, DMH 2.5" electric cutouts and finally out of a custom 2.5" exhaust w/ 40 series flowmasters. Hyper Grounding Kit, Optima red top battery, RK sport hood, Hyper Voltage regulator, BMR Strut brace/skid guard/subframe connectors, Fondmetal Tech4 18x8 Wheels with 245/40-18 BF Goodrich g-Force T/A KDW NT's all around with 18x8 245/40-18 BF Goodrich g-Force T/A Drag Radial's at the track and a Predator Programming. Spraying got me down to 12.8@110mph before RKsport Hood and Heads. I'll give you new #'s later. Adding a NOS 300hp Direct Port set-up next. Will use the ZEX as a second stage.

PHiL2
11-03-2004, 02:21 PM
pics please!!!!!

GOT ME SOM
11-03-2004, 02:53 PM
I'm spraying the ZEX 125 shot in a Gravana Intake kit. Easy install. Flows past Granatelli MAF, FAST 78mm TB, Weiand/Lingenfelter ported Aluminum Intake, 30lb Accel Injectors, CNC Stage II heads, Direct Hits wire/plug ignition kit, Stainless works Long headers, DMH 2.5" electric cutouts and finally out of a custom 2.5" exhaust w/ 40 series flowmasters. Hyper Grounding Kit, Optima red top battery, RK sport hood, Hyper Voltage regulator, BMR Strut brace/skid guard/subframe connectors, Fondmetal Tech4 18x8 Wheels with 245/40-18 BF Goodrich g-Force T/A KDW NT's all around with 18x8 245/40-18 BF Goodrich g-Force T/A Drag Radial's at the track and a Predator Programming. Spraying got me down to 12.8@110mph before RKsport Hood and Heads. I'll give you new #'s later. Adding a NOS 300hp Direct Port set-up next. Will use the ZEX as a second stage.

:gr_jest: 300 shot on the stock bottom end??? I'll give you a max of 5 runs before you blow that motor :gr_jest:

GMH GTO
11-03-2004, 09:38 PM
:gr_jest: 300 shot on the stock bottom end??? I'll give you a max of 5 runs before you blow that motor :gr_jest:

BMR is running 250hp nitrous on their GTO and ran a 10.98 stock LS1 short block heads cam stock. Granted they blew a head gasket on their second 10 second pass but they ran 20+ 11 second passes with less nitrous.

With nitrous the problem is putting on 300hp but the engine not being able to flow 600hp with heads its definately possible. If I went the nitrous route I wouldn't go for more then 200hp wet kit or NOS NXL direct port etc. My car isn't going to be a bottle baby though. :)

GOT ME SOM
11-04-2004, 07:33 AM
BMR has a built 408 iron block..


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GMH GTO
11-04-2004, 07:55 AM
They do now, during most of the summer they were running the stock motor.

EWP, CAI, and long tubes were the only engine mods they really had besides lots of nitrous.

GMH GTO
11-04-2004, 07:57 AM
heres an explanation of BMRs car
http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5815&highlight=10.98

BMR now runs 10.50 with the 408 and nitrous.

GOT ME SOM
11-04-2004, 12:26 PM
that's cool, if it was my personal car i wouldn't spray a 200 shot on a stock bottom end. Car seems to move out good though.

easternspeed
10-07-2005, 01:03 PM
BMR is running 250hp nitrous on their GTO and ran a 10.98 stock LS1 short block heads cam stock. Granted they blew a head gasket on their second 10 second pass but they ran 20+ 11 second passes with less nitrous.

With nitrous the problem is putting on 300hp but the engine not being able to flow 600hp with heads its definately possible. If I went the nitrous route I wouldn't go for more then 200hp wet kit or NOS NXL direct port etc. My car isn't going to be a bottle baby though. :)

I made it more than 5. I finally blew it up when I had my bottles open and purged before I started it dry and revved the snot out of it. Broken piston, cracked sleeve. Now I am bionic and I'm gonna spray 600-800 until it blows.

easternspeed
10-07-2005, 10:17 PM
Im contemplating the idea of getting a 100-150 shot for the gto.

I am just looking for others that might have it already that could adivse me....

:burnout: I was running a wet 100 shot into my K&N right in front of my 90mm LSX TB and then the Nitrous Express NXL direct port kit at another wet 180. I shot the 100 off the line and the direct port after 1-2 shift. Used LS1-edit to shape my fuel curve properly and had no issues until I opened my bottles, purged and then started my motor. It overrevved, broke a piston and cracked a sleeve. I just finished a forged 6.7l (408) iron block with custom cam (25?/25? with 661 lift) and stage 3 heads, comp shaft mount 1.7 rockers at 12.5:1 compression. I am going to shoot as much as I can hold off of the line (hopefully 150+ with the single fogger). After the 1-2 shift I am shoving another 320 shot or so with the NXL direct port for @ 250 RWHP. After the 2-3 shift I am going to add another 300-400 shot or so with a custom direct port that I am finishing the plumbing on now with NOS components. I am going to push this block to the limits so I will know what it will take for my customers sakes. The NXL set-up is great. Much more accurate bang than just a single fogger through the TB and manifold. It replaces the stock fuel rails and is a pretty easy install if you can turn a wrench at all. Kit is a little pricy at @ 1100+, but worth every penny. It comes with nozzles that you place under your fuel injectors in the manifold. I will help you if I can.

mr2guru
10-08-2005, 01:01 PM
If you do that an make it down the qtr...I'll give you $100.

close to 500whp 408 with 800whp of nitrous....yeah.

PHiL2
10-08-2005, 01:05 PM
me 2!

davith
10-09-2005, 12:43 PM
wow, I would like to see a video of that.......

wtggto
10-09-2005, 01:00 PM
i run a 125 shot. amazing performance in conjuntion with my mods. only used it a few times from a roll, and once while on the highway. pulled 150 mph like it pulled 100 mph stock :drink:

easternspeed
10-10-2005, 09:23 AM
wow, I would like to see a video of that.......

I'll post my address for the checks later. I will also post the videos of the nitrous progression. We are starting with the fogger onlly to see how much I can hold off of the line, then we will work on the 1-2 NXL direct port. We already know the 180 rwhp worked before. After we fine tune that the third stage direct port will be added until we bend everything inside the motor or leave our drivetrain on the track. Single 101 turbo is gonna be the next set-up after my nitrous fix is over. Probably back-half it then and go 10.5 Outlaw though.

Muff Daddy
10-10-2005, 09:35 AM
i bet drivetrain goes first. you might as well be a gas truck with all that n2o your hauling around lol.

SDB
10-10-2005, 10:03 PM
I have a 150 NX wet shot on my 04 auto GTO...works great. I ran 12.5 at 115 on stock everything but bottle, then got it tuned....it picked up a lot on tuning (AF ratio was 9-1 on stock jetting had to put a smaller fuel jet in it to get to 11.5 AF ratio). Now I have nitto's, start the nitrous a little sooner, and have the tuning so I bet low 12's at 118 mph now.

put on a single nozzle NX kit OR their new nitrous kit that goes on right at the TB.....nice kit either way. Get a bottle heater, TR6 plugs gapped at .038, and a Walboro intank FP, get a dyno tune, and use a Timing tuner to control rpm activation and pull timing if needed....

With my bottle, I can run with soe fairly fast cars around here. I run faster than any other GTO's in my area with $1100 in total mods. Nitrous rules.

SDB

01SS346
10-11-2005, 02:34 PM
I have had it on Ls1 cars before, Ive got it for my SS. its great bang for the buck. I run a dry shot on my SS 125. its easy to tune and install is simple and with a window switch you dont have to think about it the computer just does it for you haha

FraggerCrue
10-13-2005, 04:20 AM
I know a couple of guys running a Compucar dry kit with a 60 shot, iirc, and they are both running 12.2.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/fraggercrue/ finished.jpg
*The above image may or may not contain images of actual owners employing n2o systems. Their names have been changed to protect the guilty. :D

I just added my dry shot, but haven't had a chance to run at the track.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/fraggercrue/ IMG_0915.jpg

Working with my brother, we switched that bracket to a side mount and made it lower profile so that it fits better under the stock spare tire cover. He just made 2 more brackets yesterday, test fitting today on my car. I need to get pics. If anyone is interested, drop me a PM.

01hawk
10-13-2005, 10:04 AM
fraggercrue i like the mount in the spare tire. Let me know if it works out i would like to do mine like that. Anyway bought an 05 six speed gto this week. It is going to be Gomer built with patriot stage 3 heads, custom ground cam (somewhere in the 230's), kooks longtube headers, off road X pipe, ds and rearend mods, and a 125-150 shot of nx. If anyone has this setup on the new 6.0 motor let me know especially if you know where i can get hp tuners 2 for it. Just curious what the setup might do.

GTWhoa
10-13-2005, 10:05 AM
i run a 125 shot. amazing performance in conjuntion with my mods. only used it a few times from a roll, and once while on the highway. pulled 150 mph like it pulled 100 mph stock :drink:

I didn't realize NX made a dry setup, I thought they didn't believe in it or whatever.

Where'd you get it and if you don't mind me asking how much does it cost?

dubrado
10-13-2005, 10:37 AM
125 wetshot here

55/33 jetting

12.5:1 A/F ratio

no knock

easternspeed
10-13-2005, 04:00 PM
i bet drivetrain goes first. you might as well be a gas truck with all that n2o your hauling around lol.

My guess is that it will go from underneath as well. I have installed every suspension mod including a carbon fiber driveshaft, 300m billet axle stubs, BMR cv's, every urethane bushing on the market, oe 20% rear springs, harrop diff cover, hubs, etc. When it goes we are installing a custom built 9" Ford solid axle that will hold whatever we throw at it. I rebuilt the trany into na almost bulletproof 4l65-e at @ 8k miles as well as an edge racing converter. Both are good for @ 1000hp/tq. Haven't gotten the new tranny picked out yet. Possiby a powerglide or T400. Who knows. I'll keep the skeptics posted.

PHiL2
10-13-2005, 04:12 PM
got any more pics of your beast?

CSiJason
10-14-2005, 02:48 AM
My guess is that it will go from underneath as well. I have installed every suspension mod including a carbon fiber driveshaft, 300m billet axle stubs, BMR cv's, every urethane bushing on the market, oe 20% rear springs, harrop diff cover, hubs, etc. When it goes we are installing a custom built 9" Ford solid axle that will hold whatever we throw at it. I rebuilt the trany into na almost bulletproof 4l65-e at @ 8k miles as well as an edge racing converter. Both are good for @ 1000hp/tq. Haven't gotten the new tranny picked out yet. Possiby a powerglide or T400. Who knows. I'll keep the skeptics posted.

How about sending some money over this way so I can have fun with it too? :drink:

easternspeed
10-17-2005, 07:56 AM
Look at my spare tire mounts first. I will post pics today. The bottles need to face forward to pick up propery.

gto_in_nc
10-17-2005, 08:46 AM
"Coastal NC" where, easternspeed?

easternspeed
10-30-2005, 01:58 PM
Look at my pics under

ECP Race Cars - Jeff's GTO

I have pics of bottles, etc.

www.eastcoastperformance.biz

Chivo
10-30-2005, 03:32 PM
I have an 04 a4. It has a tsp cam, stall, long tubes,gears, and a 150 shot. Car went 11.3 at 120 at Noble, Ok.

GTO_Patrick
10-31-2005, 05:28 PM
NOSzle System with fuel cell. Great bang....hehehehe.....