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MY ZL1 GTO BUILD

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New Era Performance starting my ZL1 blower install on my GTO. I haven't seen anyone else do this. Should be a fun build!

Currently doing some test fitting. Many pictures and updates to come this week!
 

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#30 ·
Cool build, curious to see how it all works out.
 
#32 ·
Wonder how a 2004 hood with a cutout would look.

 
#36 ·
Hoping it is faster than a ZL1..........but the goat is lighter so it should be.
 
#38 ·
Ok guys, the boys at New era were able to make some progress on the GTO today...

The heads are assembled and installed, blower installed..

After some test fitting they have found an allignment issue with the ZL1 crank pulley and existing accesories...

After some more testing, they found that 2012 CTS-v alternater, power steering pump w/ custom new era performance resovoir and brackets solved the issue.. parts ordered and awaiting arrival. 3" cowl hood fromVFN is also on its way..

As far as pricing, it is a custom build, so we will see how that turns out.
 

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#41 ·
Please, before you accuse new era of anything... They are my good friends... I wanted to do this build... not them.

We were pretty sure before starting the project that the offset would be an issue.

This is a custom project, i fully expected there to be custom fabrication throughout the project. Especially since this seems like one of the first time anyone has done this.
 
#45 ·
Especially since this seems like one of the first time anyone has done this.
I'm not sure how different the LSA supercharger is from the LS9, but there are a few GTOs with a ZR1 supercharger installed.
 
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Edit: wrong thread
 
#44 ·
Nice build, looking forward to the results. Subscribed.
 
#54 ·
He wasnt using a stock longblock. Plus your talking about one person whos numbers were no replicated by anyone else. I will take an OEM part any day of the week over an aftermarket piece.
 
#55 ·
Hey all, I'm the tech working on the car, the customer is a good friend of mine. He asked that I share my findings on this setup to better help any of you interested in doing it in the future.

Why the LSA blower?

1.) It was available off another customer's car for sale for a VERY VERY good price with several supporting parts necessary for installation. Price-wise, this setup may not make sense in some cases, but as CTS-V's & ZL-1's become older, prices may come down making it a more reasonable option in the future.

2.) Direct, independent belt drive. For those of you not familiar with the LSA unit, it uses an independent 8-rib ring on the face of the balancer. This has benefits such as being able to overdrive the supercharger without doing the same for the accessories and is way less likely to throw your accessory belt. Last I checked, 8 rib accessory pullies are quite expensive too, so this allows you to avoid that expense while still reaping the benefits of the larger contact area on the blower pulley.

3.) We have much experience with the LSA supercharger and it is VERY impressive. We have found it to be much more efficient than the Maggie with MUCH better temperature control (lower IATs). I think most shops would agree.

4.) We've all seen a Maggie under the hood on a GTO, but this is truly unique!

With that said, I'd like to say that if you plan on doing this with factory accessories, forget it. Using the LSA blower will require you to use the ZL-1 (or CTS-V) water pump, idlers, bracket, both tensioners and your choice of accessories with the proper offset.

The amount the accessories need to move toward the motor exceeds the thickness of the ps bracket. This means modification to the accessory brackets and/or accessories is out of the question. Besides, even attempting this would be a silly waste of time. Custom balancer is out of the question, the accessory drive overlaps the blower drive. So to go that route, you would have to push the blower drive out further, modify the supercharger, space the blower tensioner out as well as the idler bracket. Hmm.... sounds way more expensive than buying new accessories to me! So, for just over $500, we found all CTS-V accessories & brackets (power steering pump, alternator).It also just so happens that the CTS-V alternator plugs right in. As a bonus, he will have shiny, brand-new accessories in a slightly higher mileage car. Corvette accessories can be used also and may be cheaper, but those familiar with them know that the alt / ps bracket is obnoxious and ugly. Due to budget constraints, the A/C will not be addressed during this phase of the setup, but the plan is to use a C5 compressor / bracket in the future.

Only thing left to do so is make a bracket re-locating the ps reservoir, as the cts-v one cannot be used, it is too tall. Updates to come on this when the accessories come in. Some simple fittings and AN ps hose can be used to re-plumb the ps.

The bypass valve needs to be re-plumbed as a manual bypass valve as this is electronic control on the LSA. This is easy, just remove a bracket and several vac lines (pics to come). A MAP port on the snout needs to be tapped and plugged, and we had to machine a bushing to adapt the stock MAP to the blower hat. Some harnesses need to be extended (purge, MAP, ETC). No biggie.

A list of parts used thus far:

ZL1 heat exchanger
ZL1 water pump
ZL1 electric heat exchanger pump
ZL1 hoses (fit nicely with little modification)
CTS-V alternator, power steering pump, brackets
ZL1 idler bracket, tensioners, idler pullies
ZL1 balancer
ZL1 MAF

All in all, this setup is not that difficult, and if you have the ability to do some light fabrication, can be done anywhere. Hopefully this answers some questions and in the future, if somebody tries to duplicate a setup like this, they will be able to obtain some easy answers with a quick search!

- Ryan
 
#58 ·
Well, obviously we had to modify / make brackets to mount the pump and heat exchanger. Also, the stock power steering cooler needed to be slightly re-located in the bumper area to get the heat exchanger as far forward as possible so it would clear the drier.

As for quality, I would say the heat exchanger is comparable in terms of performance, though the Zl1 heat exchanger offers a bit more surface area. The pump is definitely more stout and surely offers better quality control during manufacturing than the Taiwanese (or whatever) pumps that come with most every aftermarket kit available in my opinion. Not that I can however, confirm nor deny that this is where the ZL1 pump is made lol. Again, that is just our opinion, I'm not saying the pumps that come with the magnuson stuff is junk.

We actually opt not to upgrade the the ZL1 pump in our sub-750hp ZL1 builds that use a 4" core heat exchanger, with no problems.
 
#60 ·
A little off track... But, the accessories are much closer to the block on the ctsv than they are the gto?
 
#64 ·
Great build, and don't listen to the haters! Build what you like and want!


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