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Old 11-05-2009, 04:01 PM   #1
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Problems with Nitrous Outlet's window switch

I can't seem to get an output signal out of the controller. Solenoids work fine when wired up through relay and triggered with a button. The controller displays rpm and throttle position but when activated(controller lights up) no signal is produced. I have tried just about everything besides running a power wire directly from the battery to make sure it's getting enough voltage.
I have tried with the controller displaying "010" and "011". Thanks in advance
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Old 11-05-2009, 05:39 PM   #2
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Old 11-05-2009, 05:46 PM   #3
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seems like it. like i said it all seems to be functioning properly. lights up when it is powered on and then changes numbers when its activated. just no output. will check the ground though, thanks.
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I'm puzzled what you are setting to 010 or 011?

Let's make sure we're both on the same page. Where did you tap into the RPM signal and do you have the TPS wire connected or are you using a manual WOT switch?

For example, I get my RPM signal from the coil pack on the passenger side of the engine and have the TPS wire connected at the TB connector. This is how I have mine programed for a single stage with no gear lockout.

1. 000 (individual coils for each cylinder)
2. 000 (no gear lockout)
3. 035 (activates at 3500 RPM)
4. 062 (deactivates at 6200 RPM)
5. 000 (stage 2 not used)
6. 000 (stage 2 not used)
7. 002 (connected to TPS wire)
8. 044 (WOT voltage is 4.5v, but I use 4.4v because ocasionally it won't activate using the 045 setting)
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Old 11-06-2009, 10:57 PM   #5
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I am having the EXACT same problem. I just bought mine too. Mine reads the rpm great set at 000 for the signal and tapped into the green wire off the left side coils and tps works fine too. shows 100 when active at 3k and up. But no output, the solenoids are not activating. I'm wondering if there is a bad batch? Would like to see if nitrous outlet comments on this.
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Old 11-07-2009, 07:56 AM   #6
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I can post my numbers if you're using the same 2-stage window switch from nitrous outlet. I had the same problem when I installed it and not activating the solenoids at WOT. But I played with it for awhile and got it to work.

1 = 001
2 = 000
3 = 031
4 = 060
5 = 000
6 = 000
7 = 001

Unless I missed it I don't have an 8
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Old 11-07-2009, 12:17 PM   #7
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when its at 001 for tach signal its not even reading the right rpm. where do you have your connection for the tach sig? Also where is your tps connected? 001 doesnt' even activate under wot?
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Old 11-07-2009, 02:24 PM   #8
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Well it works for me and shows the correct rpm. I've went through 2 bottles. I had a buddy hold the line from the solenoid where I could see it and after going through all the numbers the 001 activated it and called it a day. I have hooked up to the green (I believe) for the WOT and Purple on the coil pack passenger side.

I'm an '06 so it may be different on an '04

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Well it works for me and shows the correct rpm. I've went through 2 bottles. I had a buddy hold the line from the solenoid where I could see it and after going through all the numbers the 001 activated it and called it a day. I have hooked up to the green (I believe) for the WOT and Purple on the coil pack passenger side.

I'm an '06 so it may be different on an '04

vice versa green for coil purple for wot. Hmm.. I tired your way and ya it reads the right rpm for 001 and 000. But still not activating. I even changed the wot to 003 disabling the wot feature and still no solenoid activation. thanks for your help but I am starting to think that there might be a bad batch, wish Chris would comment and see what he thinks.
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Old 11-07-2009, 04:06 PM   #10
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Stupid question but you sure you wired the relay right? I also smurfed that too while installing the 5 miles of wire.

And if you haven't already try connecting the solenoid to a battery and see if it engages with it disconnected from the nitrous of course.

Can you even hook the WOT wire from the window switch to an '04 since it's cable and not drive by wire?
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Old 11-07-2009, 08:08 PM   #11
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Yes, you can connect the TPS wire on a 2004. I did it, no problem. The TB still has a TPS sensor even for a cable driven unit. But, the OP has a 06.

Daniel, you only see step 8 if you have step 7 set to 002. If you are running 000 or 001 in step 7, you are supposed to have a manual WOT switch connected. If you are trying to run a TPS signal from the TB, you don't have it programmed right.

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Old 11-07-2009, 08:31 PM   #12
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Daniel, you only see step 8 if you have step 7 set to 002. If you are running 000 or 001 in step 7, you are supposed to have a manual WOT switch connected. If you are trying to run a TPS signal from the TB, you don't have it programmed right.



That is correct. I have the relay set up to where it worked with a puch button. When I connect the yellow wire to a power(or the output wire for stage one) It triggers the solenoids. One thing I did notice is that on the back of the window switch it says, "yellow wire ground out 1a" so does this unit work by grounding the relay to activate the solenoids? or feed power to the relay to activate solenoids?
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Old 11-07-2009, 09:45 PM   #13
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The white wire is the power source for the window switch. Most people connect the yellow wire to the solenoid relay ground (terminal 85).

List how you have things wired, maybe we can figure out whether the wiring is correct or wrong.
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Old 11-07-2009, 10:51 PM   #14
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OMG I'm retarded, I figured it out. I was running a ground to the relay because I was using a push button setup. I found this diagram and wired relay as shown and FIXED! So when in dought use this diagram.
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Yes, you can connect the TPS wire on a 2004. I did it, no problem. The TB still has a TPS sensor even for a cable driven unit. But, the OP has a 06.

Daniel, you only see step 8 if you have step 7 set to 002. If you are running 000 or 001 in step 7, you are supposed to have a manual WOT switch connected. If you are trying to run a TPS signal from the TB, you don't have it programmed right.

Well it works for me. So i
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OMG I'm retarded, I figured it out. I was running a ground to the relay because I was using a push button setup. I found this diagram and wired relay as shown and FIXED! So when in dought use this diagram.

I thought the whole reason for a window switch was to avoid having a push button and accidentally spraying below 3k or above the redline?
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He wired up a push button to test the solenoids if I read his posts correctly, then forgot to change it back. Glad you got it figured out.

Daniel, do you have a manual WOT switch or are you trying to run off the TPS wire? If you are connected to a TPS signal, you don't have the window switch programmed correctly. You want the nitrous to activate only at WOT and while you are in between the RPM window.
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LOL, now you got me worried. I've ran 2 bottles through it like this with no issues. When I convert my dry to wet tuesday I'll check and see where the wires are connected on the coil pack and TB. I had a buddy hold the line and reved the engine and it cut on above 3k but I didn't rev it high enough to see if it cut off at 6k.

I'm running Nitrous Outlet 2-stage window switch for WOT activation.

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Old 11-08-2009, 01:16 PM   #19
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What I'm asking is do you have a separate WOT micro switch installed at the pedal or are you depending on the window switch connected to the TPS wire to act as a WOT switch? If you want the window switch and TPS signal to act as a WOT switch, you don't have it programmed right. The activation and deactivation should work fine. But, you probably need to change step 7 to 002 and then program step 8.
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LOL, now you got me worried. I've ran 2 bottles through it like this with no issues. When I convert my dry to wet tuesday I'll check and see where the wires are connected on the coil pack and TB. I had a buddy hold the line and reved the engine and it cut on above 3k but I didn't rev it high enough to see if it cut off at 6k.

I'm running Nitrous Outlet 2-stage window switch for WOT activation.

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What I'm asking is do you have a separate WOT micro switch installed at the pedal or are you depending on the window switch connected to the TPS wire to act as a WOT switch? If you want the window switch and TPS signal to act as a WOT switch, you don't have it programmed right. The activation and deactivation should work fine. But, you probably need to change step 7 to 002 and then program step 8.


And I'll program Step 7 to 002 and put Step 8 to 044 and try that. And and let me ask you a question. Do you hook up the FPSS wire to a ground and the other wire to the negative wire on both the fuel and nitrous solenoid?
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Well I put it to 002 for step 7 but step 8 won't let me edit it and it's at 000
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Pull out your instructions. There is a procedure for setting step 8. Step 8 will have 8XX (the first digit will always be 8). Try going past it to the second and third digit. Sometimes you need to drive the car to program a drive by wire system. Leave the bottle turned off if you do that.

It's been a while since I wired up my system. If I remember correctly, the yellow wire connects to the FPSS and then it goes from the other side of the FPSS to terminal 85 on the relay. There are different ways you can wire in the FPSS.

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10-4 will do.
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I think I did it. I found the possible answer? here

http://ls1tech.com/forums/nitrous-ox...ed-wiring.html post #12

I went to step 8 and punched the throttle to the floor and it read 4.5 and hit button 1 to save it. Now step 8 reads 4.5

And my rpms read on the car at 792 and the w/s is showing 800

And the FPSS diagram I found on nitrousoutlet's website. Just got to figure out if I have the low or high pressure one.

Do you think I was spraying when I went above 3k without being WOT with how it was configured?

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It's possible. Sounds like it's programmed right now.
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Thanks for the help.
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