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Old 11-03-2012, 12:50 PM   #1
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Volant waste of time and money ?

Was bored last night and came across a used Volant for $80. I did a lot of searching and seems a few members were able to get their IATs within a few degrees of ambient by making a few mods to the box. A few other members said they were going to drill a 4 inch hole through it to reach cooler air from the fender well.

I had thought about doing a Hardcore but dont love how it looks plus it has even one more bend in it then a regular CAI. Was sold on Svede but after seeing it would be $700 when all is said and done plus a bit of work to make it fit I didnt bother for now.

One bigger concern I came to after the fact is if this will even flow more then my stock box does with a K&N Drop in ?
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Old 11-03-2012, 01:25 PM   #2
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80 bux, whats the problem, less than a tank of gas
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Old 11-03-2012, 01:27 PM   #3
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Just hoping it will flow at least as well as stock. Hard to find numbers for their filters. The Drop-In flows 700 CFM. Will do the Svede later on at some point but not right now.
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Most don't like them but I doubt it was holding my 05 GTO back any. I had a ton of 11.5x@117-120 passes in it. May have been sub par if I had put heads on it? I don't think you could go wrong for 80 bucks.
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Well that was what I was thinking when I grabbed it. Nice looking compared to stock and already pulls air from cooler spots. Was planning on cutting the 4 inch hole as well to the fender well. I assumed it would at least flow better then stock. Even if it flows the same it looks better and should be able to get much closer to ambient temps which would make it a win for the $$.

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For 80 bucks and a doing the 4 inch hole saw mod to the buttom of the box you really can't loose imo..
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For 80 bucks and a doing the 4 inch hole saw mod to the buttom of the box you really can't loose imo..

I just got HPT as well. I think I'll do some logs for IAT and MAP before I install so I can compare. Hoping the MAP is at least as good as my current filter.

Hard to justify spending the $700 it would cost to make the Svede work. His intakes are reasonable now at $399 but you need the adapter, pipes and a new heat exchanger. I'll see how this works first along with some fine tuning and go from there.
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Filter is small for a blower.You can make it fit and it may be a little better than stock,maybe
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$700 for a SS intake? Wtf? Did they go up?
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$700 for a SS intake? Wtf? Did they go up?

That's including other modifications to make it work with his Maggie setup.
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Filter is small for a blower.You can make it fit and it may be a little better than stock,maybe


Would you go Hardcore over something like this? Hardcore you have an extra bend too but a larger filter of course. Even if this only flows the same as stock K&N Drop in it will be worth it once I get the lower IATs with it sealed up etc. I dont see being able to ever get the stock box near ambient numbers as some have done with this CAI.
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$700 for a SS intake? Wtf? Did they go up?


$399 Svede, $100+ Adaptor for Maggie, $40 intake tube, $150+ for new low profile Heat exchanger.
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$399 Svede, $100+ Adaptor for Maggie, $40 intake tube, $150+ for new low profile Heat exchanger.

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You just gave Non-Sponsor an oppurtunity to plug his powerchamber
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Would you go Hardcore over something like this? Hardcore you have an extra bend too but a larger filter of course. Even if this only flows the same as stock K&N Drop in it will be worth it once I get the lower IATs with it sealed up etc. I dont see being able to ever get the stock box near ambient numbers as some have done with this CAI.

Yes,i made the first hardcore in 04.It works great ,dont let the 90 bend folks scare you they know not what they say lol.If you had a 2 inch tube with a bend that would kill ya,with a 4 inch youll be fine.Im still waiting for someone to explain how the bend the OTR style intakes make no difference but somehow it does on the Power Chamber.Look straight into the intake you just bought where the filter goes ,see the small crack the air must flow through to get to the TB opening? Look STRAIGHT to you?...I can sell you the filter flange that mounts to the hardcore if you like,we have them seperate on our site for $69.If you need help putting one together give me a call.
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Thanks I appreciate the input. I guess I'll give this Volant a try and see how it does. Plant to insulate it and cut a 4 inch hole to the wheel well for more fresh air. If I can get a decent drop in IATs I will be thrilled for now.

I see what you are saying about the bend in the OTR as well. Interesting.
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Old 11-09-2012, 08:45 PM   #18
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Well I think it was a small waste of money LOL . Was getting ready ot install it then I really looked at and compared the filters with my drop in and it has no more filter area then the K&N. Then I looked to see how it somehow got such better IATs then stock box and I saw nothing that would give it anything better then a stock box. smurf it and just drilled out a 4 inch hole in my stock airbox. Then covered the small 2 inch hole so it wouldnt suck in hot engine bay air. Left the snorkel since it i actually a pretty good idea. Should grab air from under the hood lip when moving. Of course it will still suck hot air when sitting still. Well the 4 inch hole will certainly give it a lot more cool air then it had. It is right in the wheel well next to tire. Will get dirtier quicker no doubt. Will probably modify the snorkel later on to draw air so it cant suck up engine bay . Then maybe insulate the box to help even further. I just dont see this "CAI" being any better at all then the stock box
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Did you have the lid on or off? I recall people doing back to back dyno runs and making 10whp more with the lid off. I have never experimented with my Volant as far as measuring IATs and HP, but I did pull off the lid once in the garage and when revving the car the sucking sound was much more prominent. Though I would believe that driving with the lid off would lead to more heatsoak.
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If youre gonna spend $700.00 get the DuSpeed for the Maggie.(different than the NA applcation DuSpeed which is what I have)
MAF delete and it includes the IAT sensor and IAT breakout harness.Its really only $500.00 but shipping from Austrailia is what makes it $700.00. All i had to do was trim the top of the fan shroud. Mocked up in 45 minutes.
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For $80 I'd give a try. If I didn't like it just resell for the same price+shipping.
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Well I think it was a small waste of money LOL . Was getting ready ot install it then I really looked at and compared the filters with my drop in and it has no more filter area then the K&N. Then I looked to see how it somehow got such better IATs then stock box and I saw nothing that would give it anything better then a stock box. smurf it and just drilled out a 4 inch hole in my stock airbox. Then covered the small 2 inch hole so it wouldnt suck in hot engine bay air. Left the snorkel since it i actually a pretty good idea. Should grab air from under the hood lip when moving. Of course it will still suck hot air when sitting still. Well the 4 inch hole will certainly give it a lot more cool air then it had. It is right in the wheel well next to tire. Will get dirtier quicker no doubt. Will probably modify the snorkel later on to draw air so it cant suck up engine bay . Then maybe insulate the box to help even further. I just dont see this "CAI" being any better at all then the stock box

Dang, was looking forward to the air flow comparo.
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I just dont think its worth trying after looking at it. I would have to cut the Volant tube and it still looks like a tight fit around that pulley. The filter just isnt very big. I guess I just needed to see it to understand it isnt for me. Not enough there if any over stock. I'll go OTR if I upgrade in the future.
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You guys have the Force in this thread with Youporn tubes and all other manner of better shi'ite than me. All I know (which is little), is if you pop the plastic snorkel piece off the stock airbox (no drill, no fancy), and then install a K&N panel and ho-made Omega thermistor right in front of the TB, centered in the tube ...

you get IATs within 6F running and seldome more than delta-20 at a stoplight

It's especially stupid to do this because then my stock car adds less fuel due to the uber-high IAT compared to putting it in the beer fridge, and by a dumbass accident, gets better fuel econ and is closer to stoich.

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Well I think it was a small waste of money LOL . Was getting ready ot install it then I really looked at and compared the filters with my drop in and it has no more filter area then the K&N. Then I looked to see how it somehow got such better IATs then stock box and I saw nothing that would give it anything better then a stock box. smurf it and just drilled out a 4 inch hole in my stock airbox. Then covered the small 2 inch hole so it wouldnt suck in hot engine bay air. Left the snorkel since it i actually a pretty good idea. Should grab air from under the hood lip when moving. Of course it will still suck hot air when sitting still. Well the 4 inch hole will certainly give it a lot more cool air then it had. It is right in the wheel well next to tire. Will get dirtier quicker no doubt. Will probably modify the snorkel later on to draw air so it cant suck up engine bay . Then maybe insulate the box to help even further. I just dont see this "CAI" being any better at all then the stock box

I know I am a month late but did you buy the extend harness to relocate the IAT sensor to the center of the filter? You can get a harness from Casper that will allow you to extend the sensor down into the box. You can also use a more accurate sensor on the end. My temps with this are noticeably lower when moving. At idle you are still screwed.

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