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Old 11-19-2012, 06:41 PM   #151
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So my thoughts after running this for awhile now on a daily driver - same trip day in day out, same gas station, gas grade, etc.

Diablo tune definitely has better power and throttle response, you can definitely feel it when driving especially under power. Definitely shifts crisper without the little "lag" for lack of better terms. Seems to idle the same, start just as easy. The only negatives are the traction control is basically disabled, and I consistently get 0.5-0.7mpg LESS than the stock tune. I've decided to run the stock tune through winter when I need the traction control and then put in the performance tune in the summertime for a little bit of fun. No regrets, definitely worth the money and I'd recommend it to anyone on a daily driver, and still no regrets I didn't opt for a full blown custom tune
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So my thoughts after running this for awhile now on a daily driver - same trip day in day out, same gas station, gas grade, etc.

Diablo tune definitely has better power and throttle response, you can definitely feel it when driving especially under power. Definitely shifts crisper without the little "lag" for lack of better terms. Seems to idle the same, start just as easy. The only negatives are the traction control is basically disabled, and I consistently get 0.5-0.7mpg LESS than the stock tune. I've decided to run the stock tune through winter when I need the traction control and then put in the performance tune in the summertime for a little bit of fun. No regrets, definitely worth the money and I'd recommend it to anyone on a daily driver, and still no regrets I didn't opt for a full blown custom tune

Cam heads intake still on a diablo no need for a Dyno tune ...congrats on your gains on your diablo you can go along ways with the diablo
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Old 11-19-2012, 07:29 PM   #153
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I'm on a diablew tune and happy with it. See sig.
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Old 11-20-2012, 04:48 AM   #154
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I know nothing about the Predators, but can't you adjust fuel trims and air/fuel ratios to get your mpg back?

I'm one of those people still debating getting an InTune or having someone with HPT tune my car. Mine is just a street and trip car for fun. I want get a decent balance of performance/economy.
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Old 11-20-2012, 06:16 AM   #155
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I know nothing about the Predators, but can't you adjust fuel trims and air/fuel ratios to get your mpg back?

Absolutely. And no Predator tuning should be considered complete until you have run some logs and adjusted the long term fuel trims.
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:49 AM   #156
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I recently bought a used Predator. Car pulls a little harder, but I lost at least 2 MPG. I've been logging data and adjusting LFTRs with my Predator using this old thread:

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60633
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:34 AM   #157
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I recently bought a used Predator. Car pulls a little harder, but I lost at least 2 MPG. I've been logging data and adjusting LFTRs with my Predator using this old thread:

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60633

I lost MPG, too, but it was BECAUSE the car pulls like a burned boar. I had a really heavy foot the past year since I put the P-tune and headers on there. The car sounds great and is really fun to drive. I had been getting like 14.7 MPG in city with Pred+headers, when I used to get like 17.1 MPG before the Pred+headers.

Lately (really just the past month), I've been babying the car more and I don't run the A/C in the cooler weather. My MPGs are almost back up to where they were (16MPG or so in town vs the 17MPG they used to be).

I'm still on the fence about a Diablew tune vs a dyno tune, though.
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:48 AM   #158
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I have a '05-'06 Predator for someone local to Philly for free, if anyone's interested.

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Old 11-20-2012, 11:24 AM   #159
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My MPGs went up with a Predator canned tune and a little more with a Lew tune. I get 21-22 on a regular basis, 19-20 if I do a lot of city driving.
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Old 11-20-2012, 11:47 AM   #160
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My MPGs went up with a Predator canned tune and a little more with a Lew tune. I get 21-22 on a regular basis, 19-20 if I do a lot of city driving.

^^^^this if you're not getting better mpg's! I highly recommend SSMonte for a tune! It's a great tune for bolt-ons until you get in heads/cam if you're not comfortable tuning the diablo yourself! My MPG's are sky high after all said and done with my tune! Ever seen your fuel range say 490?
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Old 11-20-2012, 12:45 PM   #161
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Rich runs shorties and I'm assuming jbo's being in Cali is also. How much a factor would that be in the mpg game?
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Old 11-20-2012, 12:56 PM   #162
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Rich runs shorties and I'm assuming jbo's being in Cali is also. How much a factor would that be in the mpg game?

Yes shorties, catless. When I was on the stock tune M6, I had to be no faster than 70mph to get a freeway average of 24-26, after the SSMonte tune with the headers catless ported intake I can run freeway speeds of +75mph 26-28mpg depending on road conditions. I drove back from Las Vegas 180 miles and had an average of 32mpg, another guy same mods but with a v.2 torquer cam got 27mpg on a diablo tune by one of club members.
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Old 11-20-2012, 01:01 PM   #163
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Rich runs shorties and I'm assuming jbo's being in Cali is also. How much a factor would that be in the mpg game?

I was getting the roughly the same MPG before I put on the Vararam, shorties, high flow cats and catback. Well, maybe the MPG went up just a little after all these bolt-ons and an update to the tune. Basically stock with a Diablew tune I got 24-26 on a road trip.

BTW, I calculate my MPG using actual miles / gallons math, not just trusting what the DIC readout is telling me since the DIC can tend to be optomistic.
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^^^^this if you're not getting better mpg's! I highly recommend SSMonte for a tune! It's a great tune for bolt-ons until you get in heads/cam if you're not comfortable tuning the diablo yourself! My MPG's are sky high after all said and done with my tune! Ever seen your fuel range say 490?

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Old 11-20-2012, 01:54 PM   #165
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The insta mileage at 0.62 I've seen.
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Old 11-20-2012, 02:38 PM   #166
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The Predator reduces torque management on the engine side for a noticeable increase in throttle response . It's an easy and cost-effective mod for the LS2. The Diablosport Predator DOES NOT alter the 465le in the 05-06 A4's.

I recently averaged a surprising 23mpg over a 360 mile highway trip with the cruise control set to 70 mph most of the time. I can't say if that was due to using cc or maybe my new SAP (Magnaflow) 18" oval chambered mufflers. Other engine mods are K&N drop in filter and Vector HSRK with IAT sensor relocated inside the airbox. Typical Predator mpg with stock mufflers and no cc was always 19.5 hwy, 15 city, about 1mpg lower than the stock tune.
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Looks like you even got a few miles on it too. I got 80 miles before mine dropped to 480. And that's crap 91 from California summer junk blend.
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Summer = best mpg.
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I have a '05-'06 Predator for someone local to Philly for free, if anyone's interested.

Unlocked, no USB cable.

So how much for someone not quite local?
Not sure if I'm risking smurfing the ECM using one but if the price is right and you still have it.
I might have VIN option issues already from the PO.
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