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Old 01-01-2013, 11:11 AM   #1
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New wheel question

Going to pick up some Ruff 280's in chrome. 18x8.5 35 offset 18x9.5 45 offset. I know the fronts will fit fine, but i know the rears will have problems. My rear springs suck so I need to pick up either 5/16 or 0 drops for the rear. Which one? And I know my fenders will need to be cut.


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Old 01-01-2013, 08:28 PM   #2
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Old 01-01-2013, 08:28 PM   #3
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What size tire are you going with. I was completely fine with 9.5s with a 45 offset on 265 tires when I had 5/16 drag springs.
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Old 01-01-2013, 08:31 PM   #4
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245 front 275 rear.


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I am running 18x9.5 +45 on 275s Stock height, I had to trim the living hell out of my fenders to get them to stop rubbing, I would be afraid that going lower in the rear than what i am at would cause me major issues seeing as how i still rub on rare occasions. But then again, I fear rub because of how bad my lowered s10 rubs. I dont need 2 vehicles like that.

On that note i am thinking the tires i bought run wide on the sidewall width so that doesn't help any either.
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I donīt think the front will fit?
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I donīt think the front will fit?

Im with this guy. A 35 mm offset on a 8.5 with a 245 tire. Good luck.

With a 235 and some camber its doable.
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Im with this guy. A 35 mm offset on a 8.5 with a 245 tire. Good luck.

With a 235 and some camber its doable.

With a 8,5" wheel in the front you need at least +45
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With a 8,5" wheel in the front you need at least +45

This will put the wheel closer to the strut, on factory struts this is not gonna fly without strut rub.
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With a 8,5" wheel in the front you need at least +45

I'm running a 235/265 combo on 8.5/9.5's 40/45ET. Up front you are going to rub only chance of clearing is camber but with struts I don't know how much you can get. The rears will rub but rolling or trimming the fenders will fix that. Don't jack the ass up to fit wheels and tires.
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http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthr...ff+280+fitment

Also the 35mm offset puts the wheel away from the strut to allow a little more camber which will give more clearance to the outer fender lip.

The OP is buying the wheels from me so I dont want to go and crap his thread as some people might say i'm just trying to make a sale.

Alignment is just good to do anytime suspension or wheel mods are made.

I dont have factory suspension like he does but i do have the first version of the Pedders coilovers which have LESS clearence to the strut side than OEM struts do. I have to run a 3mm spacer justt to run factory wheels and tires in the front.

He should be fine with an alignment to add a little camber in the front.
Im lowered and in the rear i was fine after i aggressively rolled my fenders and had a cradle alignment done

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With a 8,5" wheel in the front you need at least +45

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This will put the wheel closer to the strut, on factory struts this is not gonna fly without strut rub.

Untrue

I have struts and -.04 degrees camber each side and still have room between the tire and strut BUT I have a 235 tire. Cannot make blanket IT WONT WORK statements like this without adding in ride height and tire size.
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I have struts and -.04 degrees camber each side and still have room between the tire and strut BUT I have a 235 tire. Cannot make blanket IT WONT WORK statements like this without adding in ride height and tire size.

My statment was in reference to the fact that the +45 offset puts the tire closer to the strut vs. the +35 offest. I stand corrected, depends on the entire setup

I agree that tire size and ride height are crucial info for what will and will not work.
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A +35 offset with a 8.5 inch rim will work but like most said on here the tire will stick out a bit farther then most people like on here, but to each his own. I have this set up with a 235 and its not to bad at all. And for the rears with a good fender roll, or just shave the lip and you'll be fine depending on what tire you buy, but pretty much most will fit without any issues once you've worked on the fenders.
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This was effectively a 18x8.5 with a 35mm offset and a 235 series tire. This will show you where the wheel will sit in relation to the rest of the car. What you see here would not be driveable until some camber is added in.
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I am mind smurfed. I see Gtos posted with ruff wheels with +35 offset in the front all the time.


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I have the same wheels and size but not sure on the offset on the front will check tonight but they were fine with 245 tires. The rears on mine are an ET40 offset unfortunately and have very minor fender rub using 265 tires. I dont have the fenders rolled or cut, sometime before spring will change to the 5/16 drag springs before I will use these wheels.
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Please let me know. Thanks.


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Anyone else here running ruff wheels with 35 offset on the front?


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I did but it was a 235 tire and an 8" wide rim, ur setup won't work. Imo
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Is that wheel (picture) the actual wheel? Looks like quite a lot of "dish", which is nice, although wondering if the spokes are just curved back or is that typical for a 9 1/2" rear wheel on these? I like the look, so wondering when the time comes for new wheels; just don't want too many issues with that size.
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That's the actual wheel. So the only way these would work if I put a 235 on the front? It just doesn't make since to me because I've been searching and people run ruff 278's 279's 280's 281's all +35 offset 245 on the front stock suspension no problem. So confused


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They will physically fit but they sit outside of the fender a little and if you lower the car it will have to run some camber up front to get the tire to tuck up in the fender. A buddy runs 235/35/19 on a 19x8.5 35ET and about -1.5 camber to get them to tuck with coilovers. Dropped about 1-1.5 inches.
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I have no interest in lowering my car.... So these will fit with a 245 on STOCK height suspension no rubbing?


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This car has 18x8.5 35ET all around with 245/40's
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This car has 18x8.5 35ET all around with 245/40's

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That doesn't look bad at all..


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Is that stock suspension?


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