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Old 01-26-2013, 09:08 PM   #31
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Sounds like the OP has some drain on his electrical system. I don't have an optima on the GTO but I've had a red top and a yellow top in other cars and never had an issue. Asit stands right now my GTO has the original battery in it and while it's been a little slow on really cold start ups, i'm pretty sure if I went and tried it right now it's start. And it's been sitting for 3 weeks.

Never had a car that "likes to drain batteries." If you can't leave it for a few days without the battery going dead then something is wrong with your car.
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Way back when, Optima was a great choice. However, since JCI (Johnson Controls) bought Optima, they stopped honoring the warranties and quality has gone to hell. The biggest reason I bought the Die Hard Platinum/Odessy was they are made just outside of Kansas City, MO. EnerSys (parent company of Odessy) is one of the few battery makers NOT owned by JCI (sorry I have a thing against JCI).

Not one to jinx myself, I have 3 of them, and have had no issues to date. I have one in my 2000 Tahoe Limited (this one gets disconnected as I have not had the time to find the massive drain), one in the '05 GTO and one in my 03 Moto Guzzi. None have Tenders on them, and luckily have not had issues with any of them. (The Yuasa in the 07 Ducati Monster has died on my more than the one in the Guzzi LOL.)

Wang, I'm sorry to hear that the AGM's haven't worked well for you. Different strokes for different folks?

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I've had a redtop in my camaro for 5 years or so
It's a love hate relationship. On one side it got me home with a bad alternator drove several miles just on the battery
But my abuse has taken it's toll. If I don't put in on a charge when connected the car kills it within the week (weekend car). but even unhooked it will die just takes a little longer about a month till it needs charged with another battery inline saves most of them

I like it because it will run my electric water pump forever and then start right back up.
I have had it die on me alot and i just charge it back up it's saved about 3 other cars on the fly because its side and top post.
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Without lights running, keeping the engine going on battery power is nothing remarkable. That being said, many modern electronic charging systems react badly to running without alternator power.
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:39 AM   #35
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I too went with duralast gold after reading about AGM batteries on several different forum boards. They are just too hit or miss for me. Some people have great success with them but some people have complete failure with them. Not saying the duralast gold's dont have their problems but they have a super good warranty and cost half the price of an Optima.
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I just replaced my 3-1/2 year old Red Top. The "cold" nights here were becoming too much for it, and if the car wasn't completely off, it would kill the battery in 15 minutes, even without the headlights on. I had always assumed I had a pre-Mexico Red Top because it wasn't a $150 paper weight the first year, but when I was replacing it a few days ago I saw the "Made in Mexico" sticker on it.
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:56 AM   #37
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I had a Duralast gold in my van for a long time. Several times, I inadvertently left the dome light on for over a day. Van always started without a hiccup.
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I had a Duralast gold in my van for a long time. Several times, I inadvertently left the dome light on for over a day. Van always started without a hiccup.

I've had some good luck with AutoZone batteries.
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Old 01-27-2013, 08:40 AM   #39
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Interstate batteries are the best I heard.
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Old 01-27-2013, 12:55 PM   #40
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I've gone through three yellow tops. First one lasted longest. The second one died within a month. Third one lasted 3 months. All this is through warranty..

The last time it happened I asked to trade for the red (more cranking amps) so I got 20 dollars back, as it is cheaper, and a red top with new warranty. So far the red has not given me problems but its only been a week. If it occurs again, I will get my money back and buy a duralast gold. The napa battery my car came with when I bought it (although was weak) out lasted the new Optima.
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I just replaced my 3-1/2 year old Red Top. The "cold" nights here were becoming too much for it, and if the car wasn't completely off, it would kill the battery in 15 minutes, even without the headlights on. I had always assumed I had a pre-Mexico Red Top because it wasn't a $150 paper weight the first year, but when I was replacing it a few days ago I saw the "Made in Mexico" sticker on it.

Hey there, you can keep Jen. Long in the tooth and Eva is 30 ish. Good luck with her man.
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Old 01-27-2013, 02:59 PM   #42
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Hey there, you can keep Jen. Long in the tooth and Eva is 30 ish. Good luck with her man.

Meh, methinks Eva won't look as good as Jen does when she's at Jen's age...oh, and AGM batteries are sh!+.
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I had two blue tops in my trailer that I bought in 2004 and they just died last year. The only difference was that my old blue tops were made in the USA, and the new ones are made in Mexico. That's why Optima's suck now.
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Optima red top? I have had mine for 6 years and it is still going strong. The top of the case says made in Aurora, CO, though.
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:58 AM   #45
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I've got a bluetop...thing hasn't let me down one...it even starts my diesel in freezing cold. The yellow top is just the entry level battery.
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just about two weeks, again, and my yellowtop is at 10.75v. I'm in a situation where I can't leave an unattended maintainer plugged in, and I don't want to leave my car with the battery disconnected which would prevent the alarm from sounding.
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I've got a bluetop...thing hasn't let me down one...it even starts my diesel in freezing cold. The yellow top is just the entry level battery.

Pretty sure the red top is entry, yellow is geared towards car audiophiles, and the blue marine.
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Pretty sure the red top is entry, yellow is geared towards car audiophiles, and the blue marine.

Yep. Red has the higher CCA, yellow is deep cycle heavier duty, and blue is marine.

I don't consider a $220+ battery entry level...
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Old 01-31-2013, 09:06 AM   #49
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Re: AGM Batteries are shit and a waste of money

You'd think if AGMs were really the cats ass, they would be OEM in high end spendy cars. Spill free is the only benefit. Other than that they seem to be finicky bitches.
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Going on three years with a redtop. Car regularly sits for a week at a time, gets driven and then sits for another week. They don't like the cold weather, never had an issue, but you can tell it's a little labored after sitting. In the summer it's like nothing, fires up like it was just running.
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Old 02-02-2013, 01:02 PM   #51
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Just splurged and replaced my 2 1/2 yr old Kirkland Group 35 with a Diehard Plantinum P-5 AGM battery... shit cranks fast. We'll see how it holds up.
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Had more AGM low capacity joy this weekend due to lake effect snow, but I am down to just the marine battery in parallel with the tractor.

It is basically required to leave it on a tender, just to be able to start the tractor, or forget it, no dice.

Even then, it simply is not strong enough to crank a (100 hours new) hard starting Briggs 600cc V-2 for long enough to start, so I am becoming an artiste with ether spray. Been out for two plowing runs so far today, have another in the morning.
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I've had a yellow for a little over a year now, and got it at a descent price of 120. However, this battery hates the cold. Letting my car sit for more than 10 hours at about 10 degress, it is very sluggish to start. Also, volts seem to be a little low considering I have 0 ga under the hood. Im going to be picking up an autozone gold in the spring.
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I've had a yellow for a little over a year now, and got it at a descent price of 120. However, this battery hates the cold. Letting my car sit for more than 10 hours at about 10 degress, it is very sluggish to start. Also, volts seem to be a little low considering I have 0 ga under the hood. Im going to be picking up an autozone gold in the spring.

My yellow top descended as well, but I digress.
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My yellow top descended as well, but I digress.

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I'm on my third battery. OEM only lasted 3 years. Had an Optima red top that was a total piece of crap. Never again will I buy an Optima. I'm now using an Autozone Duragold that seems to be holding up fine.
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I believe they're owned by Interstate? I'd just go with the standard Interstate battery over a Optima. I've had a Deka battery in the Goat for a while now. It can go a month in the garage and it will start up. Really impressed with it.
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I believe they're owned by Interstate? I'd just go with the standard Interstate battery over a Optima. I've had a Deka battery in the Goat for a while now. It can go a month in the garage and it will start up. Really impressed with it.

Aren't those the same batteries as braille makes?
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I have a small draw on my car also and if my Redtop isn't on a tender it died in about two weeks. I've still got a year left on the free replacement. It only holds about 12.2V now fully charged.

Looking into an XS Power AGM battery. I've heard quite a few good things about them and they have a pretty damn good warranty. There just spendy. $260.
Well see his it goes. Maybe I can sell this Redtop on Craig's list for $100. Lol.
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