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Old 05-15-2017, 08:41 AM   #1
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Cold air intake pulling out of couplers

So I did an auto x yesterday and the intake pipe kept popping off the MAF, kept pulling out of the coupler.

I'm thinking my engine mounts are now weak/old, they're probably original with about 104k.

Anyone else experience this?
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Do you not have a flexible coupler in the stream anywhere?
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Do you not have a flexible coupler in the stream anywhere?

The car has the Vararam cold air intake and it has silicon couplers but they're a bit old I think one developed a rip as well.
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I guess I'll ask the stupid question, is there a clamp on it?
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The car has the Vararam cold air intake and it has silicon couplers but they're a bit old I think one developed a rip as well.

Annnnnnnd replace the coupler.

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I guess I'll ask the stupid question, is there a clamp on it?

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I've never had an issue with any of my couplers coming off. And honestly, I don't see how they would ever be able to. Its such a pain trying to remove the maf or intake just from how squeezed everything is in there. So....

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On turbo cars, we used to use a little bit of cheap hair spray (Aquanet FTW) on the intercooler couplers to help them stick and not pop off under high boost. Clean off both places for the coupler, spray a little bit of Aquanet on them on replace the clamp. Should hold steady and wont mess up the coupler
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You must have A LOT of movement going on with the motor for that to happen. Has never happened to my vararam. Get a set of hinson motor mounts if yours are that worn out.

Here's my driver side busted factory motor mount at 86K miles. Yours probably looks similar.
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I guess I'll ask the stupid question, is there a clamp on it?

of coarse it has clamps....
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I've never had an issue with any of my couplers coming off. And honestly, I don't see how they would ever be able to. Its such a pain trying to remove the maf or intake just from how squeezed everything is in there. So....


I reattached it a couple times and every run it popped off again. And right after I reconnected everything I have it a tug and it wouldn't move, it must be the engine mounts.
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I wanna see pics. because I think my engine would have to move 6+ inches for the intake to pop off lol
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Old 05-16-2017, 04:43 AM   #14
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I don't know what the stock air intake looks like on these cars, so I'm not sure if that's what's making this hard to believe for people...

My car has the vararam air intake, it has 2 silicon couplers that are pretty rigid.

The MAF is mounted to the air filter box which is mounted in the engine compartment so it's rigid.

Later today I will post a picture .
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I don't know what the stock air intake looks like on these cars, so I'm not sure if that's what's making this hard to believe for people...

My car has the vararam air intake, it has 2 silicon couplers that are pretty rigid.

The MAF is mounted to the air filter box which is mounted in the engine compartment so it's rigid.

Later today I will post a picture .

Because our motors don't move around enough to unhook a coupler!

With your hood open (and your engine oil warmed up), have a friend give it a rev with you recording so we can see the amount of movement.

Your motor mounts could be broken. I have also seen the nuts back off the threads that hold the motor mounts in place; Something to consider.
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I don't know what the stock air intake looks like on these cars, so I'm not sure if that's what's making this hard to believe for people...

My car has the vararam air intake, it has 2 silicon couplers that are pretty rigid.

The MAF is mounted to the air filter box which is mounted in the engine compartment so it's rigid.

Later today I will post a picture .

Because our motors don't move around enough to unhook a coupler!

With your hood open (and your engine oil warmed up), have a friend give it a rev with you recording so we can see the amount of movement.

Your motor mounts could be broken. I have also seen the nuts back off the threads that hold the motor mounts in place; Something to consider.

That is a good point I didn't look to see if bolts became loose. But keep in mind revving neutral has no drivetrain load.

Driving normally it doesn't pop off, but racing is gonna torque things around much more, I believe the engine mounts are tired they must be original to the car which has almost 104k miles on it.
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I still want to see how your intake tract is setup. I know the Vararam is different from my Awespeed but, like I said, I literally have to wrestle with the MAF to get it in/out. I don't see how I could ever pop a coupler anywhere.
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well, if the collar, or neck, or whatever you want to call it, on the vararam is collapsing, then i can see how it will slip off.

i had this issue with svede #1 about six years ago (i think it was about that long), and low and behold i was simply over-compressing the neck on the intake and causing it to collapse. oops.

stuck it in the oven for a few minutes, the fiber glass expanded back to its original shape with minimum of effort, and added some epoxy to fill in the damaged area. that fixed it and i went on my merry way.
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So I am an idiot it's the violant cold air intake not the vararam, that's what must have been confusing everyone.

It came on the car when I got it, and I just remembered the name started with a V.

I still need to take a picture for everyone.
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That makes much more sense
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So I am an idiot it's the violant cold air intake not the vararam, that's what must have been confusing everyone.

It came on the car when I got it, and I just remembered the name started with a V.

I still need to take a picture for everyone.



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That makes much more sense

Does it? I still think his engine is moving around too much unless the Volant has a collapsible coupler somewhere. I use to have a Lingenfelter CAI which is similar to the Volant and I never had it disconnect on me.
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So it pulled out of the coupler from pipe to MAF.
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1. Clean your damn car! Make sure to not get water directly on your alternator.

2. Get a larger coupler. I recommend some heavy duty rubber from Lowes or Home Depot in the plumping section.
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1. Clean your damn car! Make sure to not get water directly on your alternator.

2. Get a larger coupler. I recommend some heavy duty rubber from Lowes or Home Depot in the plumping section.

It does need a good cleaning!

Don't worry I picked up some Hinson drop motor mounts, the car will be ready for track days soon, squealing tires with my piggy.
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Does it? I still think his engine is moving around too much unless the Volant has a collapsible coupler somewhere. I use to have a Lingenfelter CAI which is similar to the Volant and I never had it disconnect on me.

It makes more sense to me in the fact that I literally feel like I could take all the clamps off my OTRCAI, MAF and TB and everything would stay in place just because how everything is wedged together.
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On turbo cars, we used to use a little bit of cheap hair spray (Aquanet FTW) on the intercooler couplers to help them stick and not pop off under high boost. Clean off both places for the coupler, spray a little bit of Aquanet on them on replace the clamp. Should hold steady and wont mess up the coupler

That's a pretty nifty idea. I'll have to tell my buddies that one.
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You could also stop doing Auto-X and start doing real track days.
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