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Old 03-06-2017, 05:54 AM   #1
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2017 BASIC SUSPENSION PACKAGES

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Old 03-12-2017, 04:41 AM   #2
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Old 03-17-2017, 05:35 AM   #3
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What do you want to see in a package?
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Old 03-24-2017, 11:26 AM   #4
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What do you want to see in a package?

Reinstallation Hardware options??
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Old 04-06-2017, 06:09 AM   #5
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Old 04-08-2017, 07:25 PM   #6
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What do you want to see in a package?

Not exactly in line with the 'racing' theme, but I think a few of use would appreciate your insights on any availabily on rubber or at least softer poly blend replacement parts.

Surprisingly to me, practically all I can find is poly parts, which I'm sure is great for handling, but my goat is the best riding car I've every had, and I'd like to retain most of that.

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I have Rubber Replacement bushings available
Strut Mounts:
http://www.kollarracingproducts.com/...bearings-each/
Lower Control Arm
http://www.kollarracingproducts.com/...2004-2006-gto/
Rear Radius Rod Bushing
http://www.kollarracingproducts.com/...2004-2006-gto/
Front Radius Rod Bushing
http://www.kollarracingproducts.com/...06-gto-rubber/
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http://www.kollarracingproducts.com/...ery=mt&Search=
Upper Shock Bushings
http://www.kollarracingproducts.com/...k-bushing-gto/
Rear Control Arm Bushings-OUTER ONLY
http://www.kollarracingproducts.com/...2004-2006-gto/

The balance of bushings I can source through Roadsafe in Rubber. In my opinion the only poly bushing that has any real effect on "ride" quality is subframe bushing. The Ultra sensitive enthusiast may find a poly strut mount to be firm. Premium poly (Whiteline) is very steetable and virtually noise free.
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In my opinion the only poly bushing that has any real effect on "ride" quality is subframe bushing.

Can you elaborate on that statement? Whats the NVH/performance difference between Whiteline/SuperPro/rubber for this bushing, when paired with BMR subframe connectors?
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I have no experience with Super Pro paired with BMR subframe connectors. That question should be directed at BMR. I understand your concern with the choice of subframe bushings when using their subframe connectors. If memory serves me correctly, once the connectors are welded in the bushings will not be accessible without major surgery. I would think that if your at the level requiring these connectors...NVH would be the least of my concerns.

Of the poly mounts, From my experience, the Whiteline has been the quietest. The ES Race only the noisest. EARLY ES Street were pretty rough...they revised the poly its better then it was. I have never used Super Pro or Pedders.
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To R&R the bushings is the same process as stock, just 2 extra bolts per side. I threw the subframes on to help stiffen the chassis up, something I do with all my performance cars. Despite that, the car is still a GT car and nvh is a concern.

What's the nvh/performance implications between whiteline and rubber on a car without subframes?

Also, any reason to replace front springs when going to koni inserts if I'm happy with the ride height? Do the lovells ride better or have a performance advantage over stock springs?
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I am not engineer nor do I have access to data to answer your request. To the best of my knowledge only one manufacturer makes a subframe connector for this car. Your question is best directed to them.

Lovells Front Springs are approximately 15% stiffer then stock 165# Linear Spring. The ride is firmer then stock without being harsh.
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you may wish to state the benefits to each package and if they can be installed by the owner with typical tools available in most sets. You know, if you have to rent anything out of the ordinary.

I am interested in the first kit.
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Old 04-17-2017, 07:22 AM   #13
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you may wish to state the benefits to each package and if they can be installed by the owner with typical tools available in most sets. You know, if you have to rent anything out of the ordinary.

I am interested in the first kit.

Email me at sales@kollarracingproducts.com your ride height measured from the center of the hub to the fender arch. I also need to know what has been done to the car and what you want to do with it. It only takes a few email discussions to figure out the system best for you
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wheels and tires are on the way, new rack n pinion goes in on May 8th, then it's time to address the suspension on my *new 2005 goat.

Thanks for the package, Ducky, helps a lot!!
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Old 06-02-2017, 05:16 AM   #16
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Question:

Tie rod ends... why are some $130 and others are $30?

Just curious if the additional $100 is worth it for a daily driver and what the difference in steering feel (if any) is.

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Old 06-19-2017, 05:36 AM   #18
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GM uses TWO different steering racks in a GTO....the common rack uses the economical 16mm tie rods...the GM warranty replacement rack(KYB) uses expensive 14mm tie rods...the parts do not interchange
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Interesting. So, I bought the car used and right away replaced the rack trying to resolve a pulling issue. Only way to know which one I have is to measure the tie rod end? ...or is there another way to identify?
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Does anyone still make front adjustable lower control arms?
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Does anyone still make front adjustable lower control arms?

Not sure if any of the bigger companies do, but Shane Whalley makes adjustable control arms for the GTO. He's got a drift gto and made a set for his, and now offers them to the public.

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Here's another forum member installing them on her gto.


I also know other member on here, ThirdStreetTito said he might or is going to get a set for his goat.
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Spohn used to make a nice set but they don't seem to be available any more.
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Spohn used to make a nice set but they don't seem to be available any more.

Yeah I remember seeing those for sale back in the day. If I remember correctly people were having some kind of issue with them. Probably the reason they are no longer offered. Unless you get them used.
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