This sorta goes out to anyone..but what are the options? I think SF has ceased 04 production, and after that, what's left? Can we use the magnaflow at all? Or is it custom fab? And how hard is that? I'm taking my car in for a custom exhaust in a few weeks or so, and I want to have all of my options ready to roll.
This sorta goes out to anyone..but what are the options? I think SF has ceased 04 production, and after that, what's left? Can we use the magnaflow at all? Or is it custom fab? And how hard is that? I'm taking my car in for a custom exhaust in a few weeks or so, and I want to have all of my options ready to roll.
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I had one made at the place that did my exhaust for 100 bucks.
The magnaflow x-pipe is fine. The 10790 (2.25") fits right in on the stock 2004 catback, but if you're getting a custom exhaust done you may want to see what your guy wants you to do.
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Has anyone ever heard of this kit? Or even better does anyone have this on their car? What are your thoughts on the kit? Seems like it could be a good thing.
I'm thinking about running individual exhaust from each header with no merge between them...eg. x/h pipe. Are there any negative or positive affects from doing this?
I'm thinking about running individual exhaust from each header with no merge between them...eg. x/h pipe. Are there any negative or positive affects from doing this?
That's the stock design.
The 04 H is completely cosmetic.
The 05 resonator does not merge gasses at all. It does have a very minor scavenging effect due to it's venting design, but it's not much from what I can tell. The gases get to fill a chamber, and even themselves out a bit...but the chambers are separated from each other.
It's personal taste, unless you're racing. It's about what kind of sound you like. I like the sound of an X (higher pitched) H (classic muscle) and anything by Corsa.
If you're racing and need/want every drop of power, you need to merge those gases....
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I run straight pipes, sounds awesome. Can't tell you about any power gains/loss.
It's all personal taste. GM advertised the 04 straight pipe sound as "the sound of power."
Some people hate straight pipes and other people love 'em. Some people hate X (doesn't sound like classic muscle) and other's like 'em. The 60 cars used H pipes and to some people, that sound = power.
H's are better down low and X's make more power at higher rpms as compared to straight pipes.
Mostly, it depends on your personality and what you do with the car. Drag racers like noise. Daily Drivers might prefer more quiet...
It is all sound preference. A good tuner can get the same #'s with x, h, or straight pipes.
From what I know, the good tuner should be able to get 1-3% out of an exhaust with an H or X, as opposed to straight pipes. That's why NASCAR uses X pipes. They keep the engines at high rpms...
Mid-pipe
The section of tubing between the catalytic converter(s) and the rear muffler on cars that have two parallel exhaust pipes. Performance mid-pipes often have a perpendicular connecting pipe or the pipes temporarily merge. This is to equalize the pressure in both exhaust pipe and keep the engine back-pressure as low as possible since back-pressure is detrimental to high end power.
MagnaFlow's stainless steel Tru-X crossover pipe represents a significant leap forward in technology over traditional H-pipes. The more gentle radius allows for better exhaust gas scavenging, noise cancellation and better balance between cylinder banks. The result is a significant increase in power and torque but a reduction in db sound levels... the best of both worlds.
Stolen Fox's H is a good example of a well engineered/well build H pipe. Otherwise, I'd buy a Dr. Gas X or Magnaflow X...
Well I had an x-pipe when I first bought the car and is sounded good. I put spintechs on it also and it sounded ok. I had an old pickup with an H-pipe and spintechs and only had 2.25" pipe and it sounded like I was running a bigblock. It was great. I just want a bold mean sound. I could care less how loud it is. I just want mean.
Well I had an x-pipe when I first bought the car and is sounded good. I put spintechs on it also and it sounded ok. I had an old pickup with an H-pipe and spintechs and only had 2.25" pipe and it sounded like I was running a bigblock. It was great. I just want a bold mean sound. I could care less how loud it is. I just want mean.
I have LTs, x-pipe, and true duals and I love the way it sounds. I had a H-pipe a while back and the exhaust was a little too raspy for my taste so I put a x-pipe on it for some different reasons and it mellowed it out a little and gave it a better sound. I wouldn't have it any other way now...IMO.
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I have LTs, x-pipe, and true duals and I love the way it sounds. I had a H-pipe a while back and the exhaust was a little too raspy for my taste so I put a x-pipe on it for some different reasons and it mellowed it out a little and gave it a better sound. I wouldn't have it any other way now...IMO.
How can you have an x-pipe AND true duals. True duals never merge...hense the name true duals.
How can you have an x-pipe AND true duals. True duals never merge...hense the name true duals.
Just because you have a X-pipe doesn't mean you don't have true a true dual system. The '04s came with true duals, but they also have a H-pipe. TSP's true dual system also has a X-pipe. Just because of the name doesn't mean necessarly they NEVER merge, just a term...
Just because you have a X-pipe doesn't mean you don't have true a true dual system. The '04s came with true duals, but they also have a H-pipe. TSP's true dual system also has a X-pipe. Just because of the name doesn't mean necessarly they NEVER merge, just a term...
This is pretty dead on of what my system looks like.
2004 GTO's do not have a functional H-pipe, that is there for support only. True dual exhausts do not merge, the 04 is a true dual. Not like it matters anyway
That's the entire point of calling an exhaust system a 'true dual' - the sides do not merge. Taking that out of the equation, everything from a G6 to a 350Z to an L36 Grand Prix has a 'true dual exhaust system.'
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A x pipe still has two sections of pipe. If you have an x or an h you have "true dual exhaust" meaning it doesn't single down to 1 pipe for any length.
I'm thinking about running individual exhaust from each header with no merge between them...eg. x/h pipe. Are there any negative or positive affects from doing this?
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I just want a bold mean sound. I could care less how loud it is. I just want mean.
You want mean and deep? Do LTs with a TRUE DUAL (no X/H pipe or merge) exhaust. Both my cars run this set up,but the 72 Bird is catless and sounds even meaner. My exhaust shop even advised against any X/H pipe. Wish I had a digital cam, I'd post up clips .
But for max power (and mellower sound) X/H is the way to go.
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I prefer the sound of an H pipe. Its kinda like a bra, it lifts and seperates the tone, but you're still working with what you had to begin with.
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A x pipe still has two sections of pipe. If you have an x or an h you have "true dual exhaust" meaning it doesn't single down to 1 pipe for any length.
Also x pipes add more power.
Ugh, NO! You would have a dual exhaust... a 'true' dual exhaust does ot merge...
This is pointless, do you think that TSP and alot of other brands would try and sale a 'true dual' system if it wasn't actually a 'true dual system? There are some people who might be wrong about some things but I pretty sure that all the companies that sale/advertise their 'true dual' w/ a x-pipe aren't wrong, so STFU!
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an x pie really sets the sound off ijn my opinion. its a whole new tone...i love mine. kinda sounds like a vette. since most of their bolot on exhausts come with x pipes that kinda makes sense. just my.02
This is pointless, do you think that TSP and alot of other brands would try and sale a 'true dual' system if it wasn't actually a 'true dual system? There are some people who might be wrong about some things but I pretty sure that all the companies that sale/advertise their 'true dual' w/ a x-pipe aren't wrong, so STFU!
STFU? What's wrong cupcake, getting frustrated because you know you're wrong?
Look up the definition of the word true, and the word dual.. maybe you'll get a better understanding of it.
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