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Old 02-18-2008, 10:46 AM   #31
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Old 02-27-2008, 08:50 PM   #32
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Old 03-01-2008, 08:39 AM   #33
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Question

When going Vig TC that has a stall of 2400
do you need a ext. cooler or is the stock cooler
find.
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Old 03-01-2008, 12:30 PM   #34
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When going Vig TC that has a stall of 2400
do you need a ext. cooler or is the stock cooler
find.


An auxiliary cooler is always a good idea even for a completely stock car.
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Old 03-05-2008, 05:38 AM   #35
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Bringing this back from the dead. Not to be picking on anyone either, but there is a board membed on here that has had a precision converter take a dump on him and wipe out is trans. I have a TCI converter in my car and could not be happier with it. I have a 400+ hp heads/cam/intake GTO not including the 2 stage spray kit on it and 0 problems with my conveter. Its been in the car for about a year.
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Old 03-07-2008, 02:43 PM   #36
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So Vigalante, Yank or ProTorque? Set up would be Headers, Cam, tranny cooler, and a stall from 2400 to 2800....

reported rwhp of the set up should be around 430hp.

Looking for quality parts, good reliable solid build, and daily drivability...

Help please?
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Old 03-07-2008, 05:51 PM   #37
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So Vigalante, Yank or ProTorque? Set up would be Headers, Cam, tranny cooler, and a stall from 2400 to 2800....

reported rwhp of the set up should be around 430hp.

Looking for quality parts, good reliable solid build, and daily drivability...

Help please?

Yank.
Tight, driveable, tons of options and astounding performance. I've had both Yank and Vig 3600's in my daily driver, and I felt the Yank was more responsive and driveable in a street situation.

I know you don't want to over stall but 2400 isn't even worth it. The stock stall is around 2200 I believe. With a cam that'll make 430, which I'd imagine would be decently sized, I'd say at least a 3000. Once you get used to a stall that small, it'll feel like stock.

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Old 04-02-2008, 04:36 PM   #38
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The stall depends on the application....

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I know you don't want to over stall but 2400 isn't even worth it. The stock stall is around 2200 I believe. With a cam that'll make 430, which I'd imagine would be decently sized, I'd say at least a 3000. Once you get used to a stall that small, it'll feel like stock.

The guideline I've heard from several sources is to choose a stall ~ 800 RPM below your torque peak - for best performance on the strip. In a street car with a lot of bottom end & small tires, a high flash & huge torque multiplication may not be the best choice.

IIRC, the stock stall is 1600-1800 rpm, not 2200; the Vig "2400" is 2400-2600. I agree it's probably not what you need for a cammed NA LSx motor with a 4500 RPM torque peak - but it was just the ticket for my Maggied LS2 (> 400 RWTQ at 1800 RPM). After consulting with Chuck at FLT, the triple clutch Vig 2400 was our choice to go with a new Level 5 4L65E. I guarantee that it doesn't feel like stock, especially when it flashes in third on the freeway.


regards, billb....
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The guideline I've heard from several sources is to choose a stall ~ 800 RPM below your torque peak - for best performance on the strip. In a street car with a lot of bottom end & small tires, a high flash & huge torque multiplication may not be the best choice.

IIRC, the stock stall is 1600-1800 rpm, not 2200; the Vig "2400" is 2400-2600. I agree it's probably not what you need for a cammed NA LSx motor with a 4500 RPM torque peak - but it was just the ticket for my Maggied LS2 (> 400 RWTQ at 1800 RPM). After consulting with Chuck at FLT, the triple clutch Vig 2400 was our choice to go with a new Level 5 4L65E. I guarantee that it doesn't feel like stock, especially when it flashes in third on the freeway.


regards, billb....

Bill how much have you spent on tranny a convertor??
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There is a difference between best stall for max track results and best stall for good track results and good street manners.
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Old 04-04-2008, 04:53 PM   #42
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Bill how much have you spent on tranny a convertor??

The one time to get it right cost about $4500 (trans - $2900; TC - 1000; R&R - $600). Unfortunately, before that, I had to
walk away from a builder who cost me about $4200 to get it wrong - three times. A warranty isn't worth much if you have
to perform or pay for repeated R&R and have extensive downtime. It cost more to get my trans sorted than for my Maggie &
tune. It's all good now, though.


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The one time to get it right cost about $4500 (trans - $2900; TC - 1000; R&R - $600). Unfortunately, before that, I had to
walk away from a builder who cost me about $4200 to get it wrong - three times. A warranty isn't worth much if you have
to perform or pay for repeated R&R and have extensive downtime. It cost more to get my trans sorted than for my Maggie &
tune. It's all good now, though.


regards, billb....


ouch...

I would be interested in details at some juncture.
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Old 07-21-2008, 03:16 AM   #44
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So Bringing this back from the Dead Has Anyone dealt with a Performabilt TC seena few say yes but I am considdering a 3200 from them but don't See many out ther that have them . Friend in local Club just bought a Stage 3 Tranny for his goat kinda waiting to see how he likes it as well...
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Old 08-13-2008, 05:50 PM   #45
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I have had my Yank for a year now. "IF" it fails (knonking on wood) I will cut it open.
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Protorque Converter Here , 1st mod I ever did@ 500 miles on the OD, have tried some of the brands mentioned above, but I get the best Et and MPH with the Protorque, So yea I'm happy 4 1/2 years later and still running the stock trans knock on wood
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Had a YANK 3800 then blew my engine and when I did the rebuild I wanted something smaller and tighter so I went with a Performabuilt 3600, but then had a good deal on a Transmission Physician transmission and it came with a Vig 3600 so I ditched the Performabuilt (never used) and took the Vig. Great verter for the street nice and tight but was too small for my motor so I put that up for sale. So I called up Yank and they custom built my 4000 verter for my motor and all I can say is WOW.

Seat of the pants tells me its a big improvement but the track will be the tell all. I dont think I will be disappointed.
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Old 10-21-2008, 12:28 PM   #49
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Old 12-10-2008, 09:53 PM   #50
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torque convertor education

transman great write up, i have an a4 and know nothing about convertors. thanks for brining this info up for people like me.
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