downshifting on the A4

Quote: Originally Posted by BlueGoat06... You don't have to replace your clutch and trans every 30k miles unless you're abusing the car, or unless you're not maching your power adders with the right clutch. i bet a stock T56 would live 5-6 times longer than the A4 in a world where everybody drives like granny , and the clutch would have to be replaced when you A4 people are fixing the stock A4 due to regular wear. Now for you A4 people, you have Trans TM issues to deal with, and simple changes like removing that Trans TM like most of you guys wanna do in the name of performance, and increasing the stock shift points 300-500rpm higher from stock, plus increasing shift pressure to stupid high values will shorten the trans life,.. by a lot, then of course the poor 4l60e gets blame for everyhing cause it couldn't hold 500rwhp from a maggie SC for instance. The stock GTO clutch and hydraulics were not meant to whistand 5000rpm launches with sticky tires, and even with LT's, and lots of dig racing would mess them up, in turn, this would take your T56 out if you don't pay enough attention. Stock for stock, an M6 GTO would run circles at any racing track in the world around an A4 GTO, the only time the A4 shows superiority is at the 1/4 mile track because you can get more consistant launches, and that's when the stock stall is out, otherwise the car is a dog from a dig, then with an aftermarket stall you suffer from trans heating issues, you need a different trans cooler, and govs of cool down time in order to save your trans from melting at the track. seems like a lot of drama to make the A4's perform don't you think , and still, you can only do good at the 1/4 mile track, any form of REAL circuit racing would melt that trans away in 10 laps, built or not built, stalled or not

Are you trying to convince someone else or yourself? The tranny debate will never end so drive what you like. There is no "Better" between a manual and a automatic. They both have their advantages and disadvantages.

Anyone thinking a manual will run circles around a automatic or vica-versa (with equal HP vehicles) is just trying to make themselves feel better about their purchase, nothing more.

I drive around in 3rd just about all the time. Until I get on the highway, then I'll go to D. When I am getting off the highway, I will downshift to 3rd at about 50-55mph to slow her down a bit. Every once in a blue moon, if I'm at a stop light I'll drop her to 1 and on green, go through the gears just for fun. Next year, hopefully, I'll be getting a stall.

^^ I do the same damn thing. Though I constantly run the gears on my A4. Hopefully I'll be getting a stall sometime in the near future. I have to figure out which setup would suit me better.

Quote: Originally Posted by emg32... Are you trying to convince someone else or yourself? The tranny debate will never end so drive what you like. There is no "Better" between a manual and a automatic. They both have their advantages and disadvantages. Anyone thinking a manual will run circles around a automatic or vica-versa (with equal HP vehicles) is just trying to make themselves feel better about their purchase, nothing more.

I'll debate that if the Auto was a sequential gearbox like the one used in F1, and like the one the European exotic manufacturers have been installing in the newest rides to sustain track and high speed abuse for a while. There should be no debate when it comes to RACING between a T56 and a 4L60E. the advantages of a T56 over a 4L60E are by FAR, way higher in almost any form of racing unless you're building yourself a nice 1/4 mile bracket car.

I'd rather talk about "Preferences" when it comes to DD driving around hills, city traffic, knee/back problems, etc, than talk about justifying some purchases.

There is a reason why Vipers, C6 Z06 vettes, or Shelby GT500's all run a T56 trans

I usually just leave mine in D, although in bumper to bumper I usually slap it in 2. More than anything, I downshift to 3 from D. And every now and then when I feel like hot rodding, I will go from a light 1-2-3. 60k miles and running fine.

Obviously if you're someone who manually shifts your A4 all the time, then it is probably going to break. But some casual manual shifting shouldn't hurt anything IMO.

Quote: Originally Posted by BlueGoat06... I'll debate that if the Auto was a sequential gearbox like the one used in F1, and like the one the European exotic manufacturers have been installing in the newest rides to sustain track and high speed abuse for a while. There should be no debate when it comes to RACING between a T56 and a 4L60E. the advantages of a T56 over a 4L60E are by FAR, way higher in almost any form of racing unless you're building yourself a nice 1/4 mile bracket car. I'd rather talk about "Preferences" when it comes to DD driving around hills, city traffic, knee/back problems, etc, than talk about justifying some purchases. There is a reason why Vipers, C6 Z06 vettes, or Shelby GT500's all run a T56 trans

lets not make this a debate, the start of this was to know the probabilities of downshifting on the A4. yes A4 and M6 have their advantages but then it again, you can have the greatest sports car in the world but in the hands of a lousy driver doesn't mean a thing.

the transmission in this car should be the base model in all cars...

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/W...ord_166416.htm

Wow, that car looks badass. Not a big fan of the "shifter" inside.

i just like to pick on the manual transmssion guys a little...they like to flail about in the cockpit so much that while they are busy flapping their arms and gums,the lenco will keep them in shape...

Quote: Originally Posted by BlueGoat06... I'll debate that if the Auto was a sequential gearbox like the one used in F1, and like the one the European exotic manufacturers have been installing in the newest rides to sustain track and high speed abuse for a while. There should be no debate when it comes to RACING between a T56 and a 4L60E. the advantages of a T56 over a 4L60E are by FAR, way higher in almost any form of racing unless you're building yourself a nice 1/4 mile bracket car. I'd rather talk about "Preferences" when it comes to DD driving around hills, city traffic, knee/back problems, etc, than talk about justifying some purchases. There is a reason why Vipers, C6 Z06 vettes, or Shelby GT500's all run a T56 trans

You keep talking about RACING. 99.5%+ do not buy GTO's to be race cars. Yes, some do some spirted driving, maybe some 1/4 mile runs here and there and maybe a few practice runs on a road course for a small few but that's about it. The GTO is not a race car and to make the GTO a true race car you would need to worry about a hell of alot more than just the tranny.

Recently installed this shift kit and now it won't start in first gear if you manually shift. It will start in 2nd which means it takes off like a dog and then you have to shift from 1st to 3rd because of it. My mechanic is trying to tell me that this is normal. Is it?

Quote: Originally Posted by sgarsh2... Recently installed this shift kit and now it won't start in first gear if you manually shift. It will start in 2nd which means it takes off like a dog and then you have to shift from 1st to 3rd because of it. My mechanic is trying to tell me that this is normal. Is it?

That is not normal. Sometimes my transmission tries to start in 2nd gear and quickly shifts back into 1st as I take off. It has been doing that for a long time. I think it's due to my handheld tuner because it started when I uploaded the tune (or at least when I noticed it).

It only does this sometimes though.

I don't have a programmer, but I was wondering if that may solve it.