Got to Atco last night at 7pm hoping to get my goat into the 11s before it started getting hot out again.
First pass spun really bad out of the hole let off completely and then got back in it and still ran a 12.90. The car really felt a lot more powerful with the hardcore style intake.
Second pass made sure I did an extreme burn out. She came out of the hole with not one bit of tire spin saw the 1.61 60' up on the board and I knew it was going to be a 11 second pass.
Got the time slip of a 11.813 @113.59.
This all on stock wheels, stock tires up front and MT 275s drag radials on stock 17s in the rear with 3.91 gears. no suspension work at all.
Andrew did some fine adjustments to my tune and changed my shift points when I changed to my third stall.
So
finally after 3 converters and a new intake got my Cartek cam to finally get where it should be.
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Got to Atco last night at 7pm hoping to get my goat into the 11s before it started getting hot out again.
First pass spun really bad out of the hole let off completely and then got back in it and still ran a 12.90. The car really felt a lot more powerful with the hardcore style intake.
Second pass made sure I did an extreme burn out. She came out of the hole with not one bit of tire spin saw the 1.61 60' up on the board and I knew it was going to be a 11 second pass.
Got the time slip of a 11.813 @113.59.
This all on stock wheels, stock tires up front and MT 275s drag radials on stock 17s in the rear with 3.91 gears. no suspension work at all.
Andrew did some fine adjustments to my tune and changed my shift points when I changed to my third stall.
So
finally after 3 converters and a new intake got my Cartek cam to finally get where it should be.
Congratulations.....
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4/17/2009 at Atco (NJ)
Time Slip Info
RT=.??? 60=1.61? 1/8=??.??@??.?? 1/4=11.813@113.59
Goat=2006 (364) A4 / Cam / 3.91 / 17/17 / DR
Headers...?
TC Size....?
RWHP...... if known
RWTQ...... if known
Post the slip. Great run but that is a slow MPH for an 11.8 pass IMO. I trap 119-120 and running 0.3 secs faster but don't have as good of 60' as yours. 1.65 is the best 60' I have ever put down.
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If you like to be added Here...Click But need the following info:
4/17/2009 at Atco (NJ)
Time Slip Info
RT=.??? 60=1.61? 1/8=??.??@??.?? 1/4=11.813@113.59
Goat=2006 (364) A4 / Cam / 3.91 / 17/17 / DR
Headers...?
TC Size....?
RWHP...... if known
RWTQ...... if known
I'll get you the rest of the info when I get back from Dallas.
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Originally Posted by pharmdgto...
Post the slip. Great run but that is a slow MPH for an 11.8 pass IMO. I trap 119-120 and running 0.3 secs faster but don't have as good of 60' as yours. 1.65 is the best 60' I have ever put down.
Yeah I agree too my MPH is down. From my 1.65 60' to a 1.61 the seat of the pants feel is completely different.
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Congratulations. 11's is where its starts to get real. The mod bug only gets worst from here. Oh btw I did that.... with an LS1 and stock gears. LOL
Well a lot of saving to do since I need a 1 pc drive shaft, built trans, Drag wheels and tires. Then the rest of the drive train lol
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Congrats, on get into the 11's. I'm still looking for um'
Damn 12.01 so close to the 11s! I know that feel. I helped my friend with a setup on a tbss and shes got 13.01 so close to the 12s!
Great job Devin and Cartek, congrats on finally obtaining that well deserved 11 second time slip!
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Now with bolt ons and Cartek tuning - 10.9 & 125.4mph
Post the slip. Great run but that is a slow MPH for an 11.8 pass IMO. I trap 119-120 and running 0.3 secs faster but don't have as good of 60' as yours.
Is your car a M6? 6 Speed cars are always going to trap higher than auto cars.
Nice pass sir, a lil weight reduction and a set of skinnies and you'll easily get a mid 11 second pass outa her. Sounds like you might be getting a lil KR past the 1/8th mile maybe, 113 was my bolt on trap speed...lol
Can you please post ALL your mods, however "minor", including weight reduction, if any? I'm interested to see what "cam only" amounts to? Thanks very much.
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On this forum, I think "cam only" is anything & everything EXCEPT head work/change, and power adders ie. NOS, TURBO, SUPER CHARGER. Correct me if im wrong.
I'm from the turbo Buick camp. You can put a GN in the 10s with all manner of mods and money, but it's a lot cheaper, easier and more reliable after a point to simply port the heads. Does the same not apply to GTO? And you're already into the motor to do the cam install, right?
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I'm from the turbo Buick camp. You can put a GN in the 10s with all manner of mods and money, but it's a lot cheaper, easier and more reliable after a point to simply port the heads. Does the same not apply to GTO? And you're already into the motor to do the cam install, right?
You don't have to remove the heads to do the cam.
Porting the heads will get you into the ten no problem with the right combo.
Can you please post ALL your mods, however "minor", including weight reduction, if any? I'm interested to see what "cam only" amounts to? Thanks very much.
Weight reduction:
Trailer brace delete
Front and rear seats
and floor mats
A/C delete
Stainless works headers
underdrive pulley
3.91 gears
921 Valve springs and titanium retainers.
Drag bags and MT ET street 275s.
Cartek Ported Throttle body and intake manifold.
My own complete 4" CAI
no shift kit yet. I have to do that real soon after the injectors.
Well, sure. But I just thought heads were incremental to an intake, cam, springs, retainers, etc. install?
Are heads in your future?
Heads will definitely be in my future. I want to maximize my car with all the supporting bolt on first so I won't break and get the fastest possible time with untouched heads.
Fast 92 and injectors
1 piece driveshaft
half shafts and stubs
Drag wheels
Built trans and higher stall
Electric water pump
Great run but that is a slow MPH for an 11.8 pass IMO.
It does appear a little slow for a cammed car but it is also an automatic. On the 11.86 pass in my Z28 (a lighter car but also making less power) I trapped 113.62mph so it seems almost right in line.
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Originally Posted by ExTurbo...
Sounds like you might be getting a lil KR past the 1/8th mile maybe, 113 was my bolt on trap speed...lol
Again, that's a manual versus an automatic, as we all know that often equals a bit of a gap in trap speeds as it pertains to even the same ET.
Could be the day for the slow mph. I've trapped as high as 117 mph "cam only" auto, and as low as 115 mph. Times are generally all in the 11.7 - 11.8 area. No 3.91 gears for me though. I do have a FAST92 now but haven't had a chance to run it.
Is your car a M6? 6 Speed cars are always going to trap higher than auto cars.
My car is an auto. My car hits 94 mph+ in the 1/8 mile. The difference is my car doesn't have an UDP and nor does it have ported intake or tb....just yet. I routinely trap 120+ without the help of the special DA's. I also am not running a huge cam either. Custom proven EDC cam; the 228/232 variety.
I also don't have a built transmission (running OEM with 3200 stall) nor do I have an e-water pump.
Again not knocking your run but I still think the mph is a tad slow, especially with that 60'. It appears to me that it is running out of breath up top. Heads should help that considerably.
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My car is an auto. My car hits 94 mph+ in the 1/8 mile. The difference is my car doesn't have an UDP and nor does it have ported intake or tb....just yet. I routinely trap 120+ without the help of the special DA's. I also am not running a huge cam either. Custom proven EDC cam; the 228/232 variety.
I also don't have a built transmission (running OEM with 3200 stall) nor do I have an e-water pump.
Want a cookie?
lol
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My car is an auto. My car hits 94 mph+ in the 1/8 mile. The difference is my car doesn't have an UDP and nor does it have ported intake or tb....just yet. I routinely trap 120+ without the help of the special DA's. I also am not running a huge cam either. Custom proven EDC cam; the 228/232 variety.
I also don't have a built transmission (running OEM with 3200 stall) nor do I have an e-water pump.
Again not knocking your run but I still think the mph is a tad slow, especially with that 60'. It appears to me that it is running out of breath up top. Heads should help that considerably.
I thought the question about Devin's traps speed was more about how it related to his ET and not so much how it compared to other (quicker) cars. You're car is also a full 3/10ths quicker in ET as well so there's obviously more to the differences between your's and Devin's cars based on that alone. And he didn't have any special DAs either.
What is your raceweight by the way?
Based on all of the parameters/conditions, I still don't think his car is trapping any more than maybe 1mph below where it should be. On another pass on another day (or even on the same day) his car could still trap in the 115s as well with no other changes.
In my C6 I've trapped 122.0 and then 120.9 in the same evening with no changes to the car whatsoever.
False knock, deep/shallow staging, shifts in temp/barometer, wind gusts etc can all effect trap speed.
I thought the question about Devin's traps speed was more about how it related to his ET and not so much how it compared to other (quicker) cars. You're car is also a full 3/10ths quicker in ET as well so there's obviously more to the differences between your's and Devin's cars based on that alone. And he didn't have any special DAs either.
What is your raceweight by the way?
Based on all of the parameters/conditions, I still don't think his car is trapping any more than maybe 1mph below where it should be. On another pass on another day (or even on the same day) his car could still trap in the 115s as well with no other changes.
In my C6 I've trapped 122.0 and then 120.9 in the same evening with no changes to the car whatsoever.
False knock, deep/shallow staging, shifts in temp/barometer, wind gusts etc can all effect trap speed.
Last time at the scale shows a race weight of 3725 ish IIRC with driver.
My mods breakdown as follows:
228/232 cam
AFR 225's milled
FAST 90
K & N intake
3.91's
Pedders Track II
Drag bags
3200 stall
Skinnies and 15" Weld with 275 Hoosiers
3.91's.
Best 60' was 1.65 and DA's near 2 grand. I just figured with a 1.61 60' that he would have trapped higher. An example would be Jetnitro's car from 2006 which ran an 11.87 but trapped 115.68. It appears the OP's car actually trapped 112.97 and not 113.XX. No doubt the 60' time helped tremendously for that ET. I concede that we need more runs to really get a good idea of what the car can do as I still need more runs to dial mine in. 120 mph traps for me should be a faster ET but sadly have not right now.
Last edited by pharmdgto : 04-23-2009 at 01:29 AM.
You don't have to remove the heads to do the cam.
Porting the heads will get you into the ten no problem with the right combo.
I'm not sure what the right combo is, but if I thought for one second porting or buy any heads out there would pick me up over a second and put me in the 10's. I'd have done it long ago. It may be that the rest of my set up is WAY OFF.
I'm not sure what the right combo is, but if I thought for one second porting or buy any heads out there would pick me up over a second and put me in the 10's. I'd have done it long ago. It may be that the rest of my set up is WAY OFF.
Your setup looks pretty good to me and depends what size your cam is. You would want to match your heads and cam to work together. Talk to experienced shops on here with heads and cam packages designed to work together.
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