Best 10" sub for the money???

I am looking for the best 10" sub, driven by a JL 500/1, in a custom box in the trunk. I have an inexpensive Alpine now, it is o.k., just looking to waste money and upgrade.....

i have a 10" jenson. hits pretty hard

W7, but need a bigger amp to get full potential out of it

If the woofer and enclosure aren't matched, it doesn't matter how "good" the sub is.

Loller W7. If you want to spend that much, be my guest. Take a look at Soundstream. That have some good stuff at some really reasonable prices. I also have done an install on 10" Rockford P3. That is a great sounding sub. Didn't use to like them, but their new stuff is awesome.

Solo Baric,by Kicker

And Mister Mikes advice!!

box built by Joker.

http://www.edesignaudio.com/product_...products_id=30

Or anything else from Elemental Designs

Quote: Originally Posted by bludool... I am looking for the best 10" sub, driven by a JL 500/1, in a custom box in the trunk. I have an inexpensive Alpine now, it is o.k., just looking to waste money and upgrade.....

Put it in the cabin. You will not be disappointed.

Quote: Originally Posted by Pulse Goat... Solo Baric,by Kicker

+1 I run the L7 with the Kicker 600.1 amp

10w7v2.. hits hard and cleaner than most subs.. plus its nicely paired with the 500/1.. (which is what i am running)


FYI, a lot of the sound comes from the design of the enclosure...

my alpine type r hits nicely....sounds clean....and doesnt feel like someone is punching the seat...

it all really depends on what ur looking for in terms of sound quality and/or punch.

I've got a Kicker Solobaric L7 with dual four ohm voicecoils(which you will need to get a 2 ohm load for the JL amp) in a slot ported box driven by a JL 500.1 that hits hard. I think I picked up the sub for $150 on ebay for last years model.

I've had quite a few JL audio, Alpine, and kicker subs. Can't really go wrong with those brands as long as the box is built correctly, but for the Money, ED is hard to beat. I have 4 9kv.2s now and love them.

I'm running a 10" Kicker L5 with a JL 500/1; it hits hard.

Best...sound quality? or Best....as in loudest?

I just installed the new JBL 10" P-1024. The things a beast! handles 1400w RMS got it for $127 on ebay.

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Personally, I'd either go with a Kicker CVX for a round sub, or an L7 if you want a square. The greatest benefit to the Solobarics is that a single 10" L7 requires only .66 cubes of airspace in a sealed enclosure. The CVX only has a .8 cube minimum sealed requirement. They are excellent choices for when you're short on trunk space but want some decent power.

My favorite sub that I have used was an Image Dynamics IDQ. Requires very small air space (like 0.25 cu ft) and hits good and sounds great! Had it in my truck for 8 years, very impressed. Totalled my truck and the stereo went with it. I think I only paid like $100 for the 10" IDQ V2.

Personally I like it over Kicker, Alpine, Jensen (Hope that one wasnt serious)...

I just switched from a Kicker L7 12" to a JL 12W3. The best bang for your buck IMO is the JL Audio brand simply because they are a good sub for overall sound, if its bang your looking for go with a Kicker solo baric.

if you want sound quality go with commissar...Image dynamics is great...JL is decent but a W7 is way to expensive for what it is. Any other questions feel free to PM me...also check out Sound Splinter with the Rl-p or if you can find one an RL-i or stereo integrity, etc etc.

Quote: Originally Posted by Commissar... My favorite sub that I have used was an Image Dynamics IDQ. Requires very small air space (like 0.25 cu ft) and hits good and sounds great! Had it in my truck for 8 years, very impressed. Totalled my truck and the stereo went with it. I think I only paid like $100 for the 10" IDQ V2. Personally I like it over Kicker, Alpine, Jensen (Hope that one wasnt serious)...

I had 2 in my quarter panels and they sounded great! IDQ 10v2's.

For the money and SQ I have always liked and used elemental designs...I had an old nomex flat cone 10in in my Trans Am before it got wrecked with a 1.2 cu foot box I built and it hit hard and sounded great too...plus the guys are always great to work with when you have questions or need advice on their equipment...

Orion H2. They will beat the frame!!!!!!! I had one 12 in my jeep cherokee hit 142 db's w/600 watts @1 ohm

Quote: Originally Posted by bludool... I am looking for the best 10" sub, driven by a JL 500/1, in a custom box in the trunk. I have an inexpensive Alpine now, it is o.k., just looking to waste money and upgrade.....

There is NO best ANYTHING in car audio. It all depends upon what you want. Do you want bass that will rip your head off and win SPL competitions? DD 9910 or some other SPL oriented sub. Do you want unparalleled clarity and linearity for sound quality? Then check out focal, Adire, or perhaps the highly overrated 10w7. (It's a good sub just highly overrated by the fanboi's.)

The "best" sub for the money for my goals of maximum spl will run upwards of 500 a pop and that's a competitor pricing where normal retail will cost you upwards of 1300+.

An SPL oriented sub is going to sound like ass compared to a sound quality based sub if given equal installs. And as such a sound quality oriented sub is going to fall significantly short of what an SPL oriented sub is capable of doing if again given optimum installs.

Any sub that claims to do both is a compromise and falls short of what others can do.

Thus there is NO best sub for car audio - only the sub that most closely matches your goals and your budget.

Quote: Originally Posted by mistermike... If the woofer and enclosure aren't matched, it doesn't matter how "good" the sub is.

I cannot emphatically agree more. Install dictates 95% of what is heard.

Quote: Originally Posted by Pulse Goat... Solo Baric,by Kicker

A very good sub that lends itslef to both SPL and SQ applications. However it is tougher to get good sound out of than say an Adire Brahma or w7. (Yes I've owned L7s and worked with both Brahmas and w7 first hand)

Quote: Originally Posted by karter74... http://www.edesignaudio.com/product_...products_id=30 Or anything else from Elemental Designs

ED can suck my left one - even if they made their subs out of pure gold.

Quote: Originally Posted by 2gtsvette... 10w7v2.. hits hard and cleaner than most subs.. plus its nicely paired with the 500/1.. (which is what i am running) FYI, a lot of the sound comes from the design of the enclosure...

x2! (Most of the sound actually. )

Quote: Originally Posted by sam_gto... my alpine type r hits nicely....sounds clean....and doesnt feel like someone is punching the seat... it all really depends on what ur looking for in terms of sound quality and/or punch.

Punch is indicative of good midbass.... Personally I like having a system in which a snare drum strike makes you blink every time that you feel in the gut. But that "punch" has nothing to do with sub and more to do with midbass driver setup.

Quote: Originally Posted by 05ls7gto... I'm running a 10" Kicker L5 with a JL 500/1; it hits hard.

I have a termlab.usb if you want to get a good spl reading on it! **

** Be forwarned the termlab.usb is THE hardest meter in all the land and tends to crush egos regarding SPL be they legal or outlaw readings....

Quote: Originally Posted by FinalFlash... Personally, I'd either go with a Kicker CVX for a round sub, or an L7 if you want a square. The greatest benefit to the Solobarics is that a single 10" L7 requires only .66 cubes of airspace in a sealed enclosure. The CVX only has a .8 cube minimum sealed requirement. They are excellent choices for when you're short on trunk space but want some decent power.

This is very true, however the L7 will sound king kong with a severe case of flatulance in the shower with that small of a sealed box. Ask me how I know....lol

Quote: Originally Posted by Commissar... My favorite sub that I have used was an Image Dynamics IDQ. Requires very small air space (like 0.25 cu ft) and hits good and sounds great! Had it in my truck for 8 years, very impressed. Totalled my truck and the stereo went with it. I think I only paid like $100 for the 10" IDQ V2. Personally I like it over Kicker, Alpine, Jensen (Hope that one wasnt serious)...

IDQ!!! One HELL of a DAMN good sub!!! Excellent sound quality and excellent output all from a ported box!!

Quote: Originally Posted by Kreemy_Goodness... I just switched from a Kicker L7 12" to a JL 12W3. The best bang for your buck IMO is the JL Audio brand simply because they are a good sub for overall sound, if its bang your looking for go with a Kicker solo baric.

Given equal installs you wont be able to hear a difference in subs. Mark Eldrich never had any issues winning sound quality compititions using L7s and solo x's.

Quote: Originally Posted by Bumpin' Yota... There is NO best ANYTHING in car audio. It all depends upon what you want. Do you want bass that will rip your head off and win SPL competitions? DD 9910 or some other SPL oriented sub. Do you want unparalleled clarity and linearity for sound quality? Then check out focal, Adire, or perhaps the highly overrated 10w7. (It's a good sub just highly overrated by the fanboi's.) The "best" sub for the money for my goals of maximum spl will run upwards of 500 a pop and that's a competitor pricing where normal retail will cost you upwards of 1300+. An SPL oriented sub is going to sound like ass compared to a sound quality based sub if given equal installs. And as such a sound quality oriented sub is going to fall significantly short of what an SPL oriented sub is capable of doing if again given optimum installs. Any sub that claims to do both is a compromise and falls short of what others can do. Thus there is NO best sub for car audio - only the sub that most closely matches your goals and your budget.

I would disagree ,the ul12 from critical mass will spl with all but a few and is great for sq,of coarse its $3000!

After doing some preliminary research on their subs, they are still a compromise.

Mainly in the voice coil - a 4 layer 3" diameter coil can only handle a certain level of power. No amount of "cooling vents" are going to help and that's simple thermodynamics there. I have no doubt it will handle 1kW rms indefinately, but throw a full true 2kW rms and that coil's glue will melt given a little time. And when that glue chars the voice coil literally will "come unglued." Throw a pair of my zapco C2K9.0s on one and its days will be numbered.

Many "true" spl sub will utilize an 8 layer coil which will handle significantly more power than an equivalent 4 layer. And 8 layer coil will also increase the BL factor courtesy of more windings in the gap, however it will kill sound quality in that the inductance will be too high. It will also add weight to the moving mass of the sub (mms) thus impacting Fs which is then combatted by having a stiffer suspension, now your sub becomes less efficient and needs a bigger box for an spl application. This also narrows effective bandwith. But iirc an 8 layer coil is thicker than a 4 layer, thus the magnetic gap must be larger and again lowering BL and increasing the rate with which BL will drop off relative to excursion.

I could go on to include those 7" spiders but will digress.

That sub, while freakin amazing, still leaves some to be desired if one is persuing outright SPL. As far as SQ it should be right there (or better than) the W7 courtesy of the technology and design they put into it. A very good sub none the less!

Hey bumpin Yota...what do you think would be good for a slim line sub to go in a side panel enclosure? right now im leaning towards a kenwood excelon 10 or maybe 12....it having to be around 4" or less depth really limits my options. about 1 cu.ft sealed. I listen to all kinds of music, from new country, rock, rap, alternative...SQ is most important, something that has some lowbass extension but also a some midbass.

Great advice bumpin yota.

OP really need more info to make a recommendation but here look up either of these Image Dynamics Idmax or OZ Audio ME.