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Old 01-18-2011, 12:41 PM   #1
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New Smog Laws to take effect.

Being a smog technician for 6 years I get newsletters from the BAR every couple weeks or months. Here is the new smog bill that will take effect.

Legislative Update: Several bills that effect consumers and licensees of the Bureau of Automotive Repair (BAR) were signed into law. Some of these major pieces of legislation include:

AB 2289-Smog Check Improvements
Assembly Bill 2289 (Eng, Chapter 258) is designed to improve the effectiveness of the Smog Check Program and California's air quality.

One component of the law allows BAR to develop alternative Smog Check inspection procedures for model year 2000 and newer vehicles equipped with second generation On-Board Diagnostic (OBD II) systems. This will eliminate the tailpipe test and potentially reduce inspection times and costs.

Info on this bill can be found on www.smogcheck.ca.gov.
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Yea, about time.

If i understand it correctly if follows what other states do. No check engine light, everything checked in, pass.

Does it keep the visual or too soon to tell??
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I like the idea of replacing the tail pipe test with a simple scan for SES lights and diagnostics. No more worrying about cammed cars with long tubes passing.
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Visual inspection is rumored at BAR headquarters to be eliminated on 2000 and newer vehicles. Diagnostic trouble codes and monitor readiness status will still be checked during OBD II test. Smog machines will automatically fail vehicles if it sees that the MIL (check engine or service engine soon light) is on. Just remember that just because this new law is being implemented doesn't mean to now run the biggest cam or twin turbo setup or run catless. The OBD II monitors will only have a status set to "Complete" if it sees that each monitored emission system has no issues. This means the Catalyst monitor will never set to complete status if cats are removed affecting HO2S info to be sent back to the PCM. HO2S(heated oxygen sensor). Big fat cams will affect "Fuel Monitor status if it sees fuel parameters outside PCM's correctable fuel adjustments window in it's program.
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Thank you for the hook up on my alignment on my 2006 PBM goat richie. Funny that Abel chevrolet is where I bought my goat. I will order those eccentric bushings from pedders soon for my slammed rear camber.
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Visual inspection is rumored at BAR headquarters to be eliminated on 2000 and newer vehicles. Diagnostic trouble codes and monitor readiness status will still be checked during OBD II test. Smog machines will automatically fail vehicles if it sees that the MIL (check engine or service engine soon light) is on. Just remember that just because this new law is being implemented doesn't mean to now run the biggest cam or twin turbo setup or run catless. The OBD II monitors will only have a status set to "Complete" if it sees that each monitored emission system has no issues. This means the Catalyst monitor will never set to complete status if cats are removed affecting HO2S info to be sent back to the PCM. HO2S(heated oxygen sensor). Big fat cams will affect "Fuel Monitor status if it sees fuel parameters outside PCM's correctable fuel adjustments window in it's program.

does disabling a CEL remove the "complete" check though? IE if one were to turn off BxS2 codes, will it no longer pass?
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clearing CEL or trouble codes resets all monitors to incomplete when you do this. This is how the BAR prevents some guys from passing the smog by cheating the system. If your CEL is on it's because you have an issue with the vehicle for sure somewhere or you have purposely modified something causing the CEL to illuminate and setting a trouble code in the PCM's memory.
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CEL is just a light, thats it. The trouble code is what causes the CEL to come on. Rare occasion when the CEL light is shorted to another circuit causing it to illuminate with no trouble codes. Clearing codes will not help you pass. Fix the trouble code issue by repairing the problem or fixing the modification. Monitors are there for a reason.
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So does this mean that the visual has gone away for 2000 and newer vehicles, or is this just a proposal?
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IIRC in HPT you can cycle through clearing the light, disabling the light for a particular code and allowing the trouble code to be set,, or disabling the light for said code and disabling the trouble code's ability to be set. Im asking about the last option
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Thank you for the hook up on my alignment on my 2006 PBM goat richie. Funny that Abel chevrolet is where I bought my goat. I will order those eccentric bushings from pedders soon for my slammed rear camber.

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Right now your allowed what 2 incomplete checks? This may not change.
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Old 01-18-2011, 02:57 PM   #14
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Disabling code may not set catalytic or Heated oxygen sensor monitiors to complete being that code was disable off preventing PCM to see HO2S data. You can have 2 incomplete OBD II monitors on 2000 and older vehicles. 2001 and newer are only allowed 1 incomplete OBD II monitor. Laws have changed since last year. No visual inspection on 2001 and newer is just rumored or now, RUMORED! Please don't ask me this again. JUST RUMORED! I won't know yet until I talk to my BAR rep in fresno. Some of us don't have access to HPT. It is possible to run a 500 plus horsepower Goat on stock Cats and pass some given the tune and cam are not too aggressive. High lift cams are what kill you guys on the emission test if you were to have it done this year. Sorry 2004-2005 cal goats. 2006 goats won't need smogs until 2012.
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Interesting news. Thx for the info dude
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Yea, about time.

If i understand it correctly if follows what other states do. No check engine light, everything checked in, pass.

Does it keep the visual or too soon to tell??

http://leginfo.ca.gov/pub/09-10/bill...chaptered.html

Looks like OBD2 test only for >2000 cars. Hooray! Project big-ass cam is a go!
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The test at the smog check stations shall be performed in
accordance with procedures prescribed by the department and may
require loaded mode dynamometer testing in enhanced areas, two-speed
idle testing, testing utilizing a vehicle's onboard diagnostic
system, or other appropriate test procedures as determined by the
department in consultation with the state board. The department shall
implement testing using onboard diagnostic systems, in lieu of
loaded mode dynamometer or two-speed idle testing, on model year 2000
and newer vehicles only, beginning no earlier than January 1, 2013.

However, the department, in consultation with the state board, may
prescribe alternative test procedures that include loaded mode
dynamometer or two-speed idle testing for vehicles with onboard
diagnostic systems that the department and the state board determine
exhibit operational problems.

Visual check still there
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(f) A visual or functional check is made of emission control
devices specified by the department, including the catalytic
converter in those instances in which the department determines it to
be necessary to meet the findings of Section 44001. The visual or
functional check shall be performed in accordance with procedures
prescribed by the department.

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Thank you for the hook up on my alignment on my 2006 PBM goat richie. Funny that Abel chevrolet is where I bought my goat. I will order those eccentric bushings from pedders soon for my slammed rear camber.

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Wait, ok, just to be clear, this is going to make it EASIER for us to pass if we are modded, as long as we aren't throwing any emission based engine codes?
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^^ it effectively will allow for high compression and or cams, as they are not visible, though i am trying to determine if emission CEL's being disabled (not just turned off) will affect a cam's ability to pass. Seems like doing so could prevent readiness monitors from being enabled, and more than one such instance results in a fail. So, which CEL would you like to disable? poor cat efficiency?
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No problem. We will see you soon.



Yep

F%&k me the light bulb just turned on. I just talked to you today about my rear cradle alignment.
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Me need easier test and no visual before April 1st.
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blower cam options have just gotten alot sweeter haha!
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Old 01-20-2011, 06:30 PM   #23
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Sounds like good news for you Cali peeps. Plug and play with two "not ready" systems. Now you just have to get past that visual inspection thing.
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Sounds like great news for me as I've been using a "blind" smog station for a long time.
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This should be interesting to see what passes now and what doesn't
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All of this is very encouraging...

I installed a TVS 1900 back in March and I'm due for my first smog inspection next month - July.

I've been sweating passing the visual. Otherwise, the car is basically stock from an emissions standpoint.

I'll see how it goes.
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Hmmm........I have been waiting and will just observe and see what really happens before I do any type of slight modifications.
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Tony, did you get a CARB number for the blower?
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I think this new smog is a good thing for the newer class. But I do feel it's a divide and Concur thing. Now the older car class will get dicked with hard, and CA will wash out older cars faster.
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Tony, did you get a CARB number for the blower?

Magnuson did not certify the TVS 1900 kit for the GTO - they did for the G8...

They may certify the TVS kit for the GTO once they discontinue the 112 kit. Remains to be seen.

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