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Old 11-03-2012, 06:58 PM   #1
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Tuning software

Hey im in the market for my own tuning software, what is the best software you guys have used for tuning, that is the most user friendly? I have never tuned before and am interested in starting.

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Old 11-03-2012, 07:05 PM   #2
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I'm partial to HP Tuners. Some of the guys like EFI Live. Both are powerful tuning programs. Neither is all that user friendly for a novice.
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as long as i can google the answer im good.... so are they research friendly?
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Old 11-03-2012, 07:18 PM   #4
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and, i think the tuning school goes to your area to offer training.
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wait tuning school? I don't know if your serious or not but, if you are, what school is that through? Super interested in that....
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Efi live is very easy and customer service is top notch, pricey tho
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Old 11-03-2012, 07:26 PM   #7
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HP tuners is the most6 popular from what I have seen. I know on one of the forums there is a great breakdown of the program and how-to tune
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There are SO MANY that I can't count them on two hands and one foot....I'd go with Diablosport if I were you...
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Ok, to make it a little easier, im having some trans/cam surge problems..... i would like to be able to work on fixing them myself because i feel that they are tuning issues.... so im looking for something that will allow me to tune these aspects....
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HP Tuners is the answer.
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Old 11-03-2012, 07:49 PM   #12
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Thanks bro, i will look into it.
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Old 11-03-2012, 07:55 PM   #13
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HP has better info on there forum, EFI has a little more power. I have HP and it does everything I need. If you get as deep as trans swaps EFI currently has more capabilities. HP is the more popular for our cars.
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I went with hptuners and i knew next to nothing when i started. their forum is great a lot of info and guys who really know there stuff that will help you out. be prepared to spend a lot of time. i read a ton, got help from guys on the board, it took some time, but i got my tune nailed down pretty good for a street tune. no experience with efi live so i can't comment.
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you can download efilive for free and test out
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HPT and EFI live are approximately equivalent as far as the software goes. The differences are trivial. However, EFI Live custom operating systems are better, and their interface cable is vastly superior to HPT's., including many more inputs, direct digital wideband interface, analog input calibration, stand alone scan tool, and flashing in a tune without a computer.
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HPT and EFI live are approximately equivalent as far as the software goes. The differences are trivial. However, EFI Live custom operating systems are better, and their interface cable is vastly superior to HPT's., including many more inputs, direct digital wideband interface, analog input calibration, stand alone scan tool, and flashing in a tune without a computer.

Mike, would you care to elaborate? I'm in the market right now - only reason I'm asking. What makes the EFI OS and interface cable better than HPT's? HPT Pro offers an interface with wideband and (I could be wrong here) analog inputs. What's the difference between the EFI stand alone scan tool and the VCM scanner that HPT offers? I'm leaning toward EFI, but it seems like more people (on this forum at least) use HPT.
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HPT cable has two analog inputs that cannot be calibrated.

EFI live cable has a direct digital input for widebands, far more accurate than analog inputs. It also has four analog inputs that can be calibrated, along with two thermocouple inputs for diesel tuning, and a switched state input that nitrous guys find useful.

The custom O/S's are operating systems that take the place of the one in your ECM. This is useful for people running speed density, 2-3 bar turbo/blower tuning, Alpha-N, Two step, and valet mode. The ones EFI Live offers for free are more sophisticated and bug free than the ones HPT charges for.

The VCM scanner is software that runs on a PC. EFI Live will scan and read out engine functions from the cable itself with no PC needed. The same goes for changing tunes. Simply hook up the EFI Live cable at the track, or when switching from E85 to regular gas, and pop in a new tune without hauling around a laptop. Also has unlimited scanning and logging without a PC needed. Many tracks do not allow you to make runs with a PC in the car.
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Thanks, Mike. As per usual, I find myself nearly paralyzed with information.
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HPT and EFI live are approximately equivalent as far as the software goes. The differences are trivial. However, EFI Live custom operating systems are better, and their interface cable is vastly superior to HPT's., including many more inputs, direct digital wideband interface, analog input calibration, stand alone scan tool, and flashing in a tune without a computer.

I currently own HP Tuners but I would like to make the switch to EFI Live for this reason. HP Tuners is certainly more popular and I have already familiarized myself with their user interface but the more I learn about EFI live the more I want to make the switch.
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There are SO MANY that I can't count them on two hands and one foot....I'd go with Diablosport if I were you...

+1 on Diablo Sport good to start with then go to HP Tuners when you have learned a little from the Diablo.

Here is a Goat we put a TS Cam,ported intake,JBA Shorties,catless cats and some slicks with a Diablo tune as well as some good seat time.I have HP Tuners and it takes a lot to learn what is going on so that is why I suggest some baby steps. If you do want to go to HP Tuners or EFI Live then go for it but I would start with the Diablo first.


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And all that information can be readily applied to EFI Live. Two different remotes for the same TV. You tune the ECM, not the tuning software.
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And all that information can be readily applied to EFI Live. Two different remotes for the same TV. You tune the ECM, not the tuning software.

Would it be good to have both of them in your opinion or just the EFI Live instead?
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Don't really see a reason for both, unless you need one for a particular car. If you're running either one's custom O/S, the other won't recognize it anyhow. Changes made to factory O/S can be read by either package, regardless of which one flashed it.
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Don't really see a reason for both, unless you need one for a particular car. If you're running either one's custom O/S, the other won't recognize it anyhow. Changes made to factory O/S can be read by either package, regardless of which one flashed it.

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most tuners use hptuner do to license cost
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The top tuners buy volume licenses, which are similar in cost. The little guys buy credits one at a time, and usually for the package they acquired when they began tuning. If you actually make your living tuning, you'll go with the product that gets the job done well, and pass any licensing costs on to the customer. HPT has a higher market share due to their earlier entry into the tuning arena. When LS1 edit was the only game in town, everyone used EFI Live for scanning and logging, which was lacking in the LS1 edit package. HPT was the first to offer tune / scan in a single package, which gave them a big foot in the door with individual users.

You'll get a lot more respect on this board if you take the time to post in high-grade English.
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Does anyone still use LS1 Edit? I thought that was dead. Last time you tuned my car, you were using HP Tuners.
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