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Old 12-14-2012, 05:07 PM   #1
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I want wilwoods...someone talk me out of it...

But seriously. I want these.

I was thinking slotted but then I was informed that the drilled and slotted come e coated so that would be the route I would go.

I currently have the pbr bbk that JHP sells but I now have dba rotors and hawk ceramic pads. I am strongly considering selling this and getting some red wilwoods in 14" for the front and 12.whatever for the rear.

Can those with wilwoods give me any negatives that this kit may have?

My thoughts are buy the wilwoods, then sell my stock 17's with almost new tires, sell my spare, and sell my current brakes to help recoup the money.

I have not taken measurements yet but I think the 14's will fit inside my 18" vmr's without a problem.
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Keep the brakes you have now. The Wilwoods are a will fit kit, not a direct bolt on kit. You have to shim them to get them to be close to fitting and then at best the pads will still hang off the rotors. WIth what they cost and the way they fit. Not worth it!
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I want wilwoods too. Fortunately I don't have that kind of cash, so temptation is out the window.
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Brakes are overated son. Move on!
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Old 12-14-2012, 05:18 PM   #5
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Every track buddy I have that has ran Wilwoods on the track has had major issues.

Go APRacing, Harrop or Brembo.
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Go APRacing, Harrop or Brembo.

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in line with the previous posts here, reading all the problems people had installing them after the big group buy, and some other posts, discouraged me from the Wilwood idea. They just do not seem like a clean fit. I am saving up to get the DBA rotors and pads, 5000 in front, 4000 in rear.

Do you have the 04 brakes? You might want to consider putting in 05-06s. people seem to be happy who have done that.
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Do you have the 04 brakes? You might want to consider putting in 05-06s. people seem to be happy who have done that.

Did you read my post son?
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not too closely, may have skipped right over that pbr bbk thing. so if you already have a bbk, why buy another one?

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not too closely, may have skipped right over that pbr bbk thing. so if you already have a bbk, why buy another one?

Because the one I have is lame as fak.

http://www.jhp.com.au/jhpgto/brakes.htm

option one.

Looks like childs play. Stops good though.
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I like mine. no issues and the pads fit fine. They have been on for 5 years now.

I don't open track though.

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There's more horror stories than success stories.

Link to horror stories ?
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Because the one I have is lame as fak.

http://www.jhp.com.au/jhpgto/brakes.htm

option one.

Looks like childs play. Stops good though.

thank you for the link, I was not aware of those options before. a lot of money for 'lame', but at least they provide money's worth in 'stop'. yep, aesthetically, Wilwood wins by miles.
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thank you for the link, I was not aware of those options before. a lot of money for 'lame', but at least they provide money's worth in 'stop'. yep, aesthetically, Wilwood wins by miles.

They do stop well. At the time when I bought them there were not a lot of affordable options. They will make someone else happy if I sell them.
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Old 12-15-2012, 07:44 AM   #18
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There's more horror stories than success stories.

I think that's a tad strong. Unfortunately forums and the internet tend to complain significantly more than compliment any product. The Wilwoods do require additional labor to install. If you are mechanically inclined and can read the directions installation is pretty simple. Wilwood require safety wiring of the rotor/hub bolts. Shimming is a simple process. Novices may have challenges. I am DIRECT with Wilwood. I have sold more Wilwood GTO kits than any other dealer in the US. I am the first to acknowledge that Wilwood dropped the ball on the group buy in February. All of those issues have been addressed.

As the dominate Wilwood GTO BBK dealer in the US I have read most of the "horror" stories since 2007. Pad alignment issues arise from improper shimming of the caliper. This takes all of 10 minutes a wheel to do correctly. The vibration issues reported are consistent with the "mystery" wheel shake that plagues these cars. The extreme rotor wear reported by one user was on a competition car. I am not sure how this was resolved. Competition cars are significantly harder on components, this car eats parts that I didn't think could break. I am confident that there are more GTOs on Wilwood in the US then all the other manufacturers combined. Replacement pads are inexpensive. Replacement rotor prices are consistent with two piece high iron performance rotors.

ALL of the manufactures below offer BBK for the GTO. ALL are quality manufacturers. Besides Wilwood, Kollar Racing Products offers Brembo and Stoptech at competitive pricing.

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ALL PRICES ARE MSRP...retail will be usually be less
AP Racing Six Piston: $3833.99 REAR KIT OFFERED
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Wilwood Six Piston : MSRP: $1926.39 plus $88.23 for lines $2014.62 Total REAR KIT AVAILABLE

Wilwood recently lowered prices. There is no longer an upcharge for red calipers. Black Rear Calipers are now powder coated black, not anodized. These changes came about from me expressing the requests from the GTO community. Depending on how you buy it...you can do Wilwoods F&R for the cost of another manufactures front only
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“Can those with wilwoods give me any negatives that this kit may have?”

Sure. Both the mounting brackets & calipers require shimming washers to insure that the brake pads are “squared-up” to the rotors. Not my definition of a direct fit but I don’t have any working knowledge about the other kits out there so… The BP-10 pads that came with my kit didn’t perform as well as I’d expected so I had to buy some BP-20’s. Let’s see, what else… that’s about it I guess. Yes, it’s a pain in the ass to install the Wilwoods’ correctly but when all is said and done I wouldn’t go back to my stock brakes unless I was forced to.
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Had a set of their super light 6 and dyna lite 4-never again. Got tired of rebuilding them, cost to rebuild, and if they haven't upped their rotor quality since then they are an issue too. I'm running harrop but bang for the buck are the ctsv brakes.

Where the crap is the meow?
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Had a set of their super light 6 and dyna lite 4-never again. Got tired of rebuilding them, cost to rebuild, and if they haven't upped their rotor quality since then they are an issue too. I'm running harrop but bang for the buck are the ctsv brakes.

Where the crap is the meow?

Why did you have to rebuild them? What were the rotor issues?

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Stoptechs are a very nice option for the 04s. Sure you will spend a bit more than the wilwoods but it's a very complete kit that literally bolts on.
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130-5972 is the 0-ring kit for the caliper used in the GTO retails for less then $20 shipped. I have never had a request for one. Why your Mustang was "expensive" to rebuild or required to be rebuilt is not clear in your post.

Harrop makes an excellent product but is $$$$$. Is anyone in the US stocking the pads?
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Why did you have to rebuild them? What were the rotor issues?

meow?

Calipers didn't have hear shields, so the o rings got hard and would lead to caliper hang. First set of rotors were drilled/slottedand ended up cracking which isn't unheard of with drilled rotors. The rest of my rotors were just slotted but still warped rather quickly some were right out of the box.
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130-5972 is the 0-ring kit for the caliper used in the GTO retails for less then $20 shipped. I have never had a request for one. Why your Mustang was "expensive" to rebuild or required to be rebuilt is not clear in your post.

Harrop makes an excellent product but is $$$$$. Is anyone in the US stocking the pads?

Mine were like $12 piece for front times 12. Rear cheaper, $5 piece times 8. Not to mention it had to be done more than it should have for no more than I was tracking the car. Just stating my experience. Maybe wilwood has done some updating since. Harrop is high buck but I lucked out in getting these.
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I am the first to acknowledge that Wilwood dropped the ball on the group buy in February. All of those issues have been addressed.

What changes did they make based on that group buy?
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Mine were like $12 piece for front times 12. Rear cheaper, $5 piece times 8. Not to mention it had to be done more than it should have for no more than I was tracking the car. Just stating my experience. Maybe wilwood has done some updating since. Harrop is high buck but I lucked out in getting these.

Were you tracking the car to cause all these rebuilds?
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I had 2 sets of Wilwoods.

Both sets looked fantastic in my garage.
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I had 2 sets of Wilwoods.

Both sets looked fantastic in my garage.


I know guy. Did you ever drive on one of them? Didn't your buddy buy some the same time as you? Did he drive on them?

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Were you tracking the car to cause all these rebuilds?

A couple times a year car was tracked.
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