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Old 02-14-2013, 01:16 PM   #1
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Key blade holder needed/no fob

Here's my issue. I just had a remote start put in my 05 GTO. (What a pain for the installer.) Long story short, they tried everything but had to disable the immobilizer all together. My factory key fob has been gutted, so I have no need for the fob part of my key, (it does nothing anyway.)

I would like to find either a key blade that I can get cut, or better yet, find something my key blade can fit into and screw in place. I've tried searching Ebay for various Holden keys and they all have the fob built in.

Any solutions besides finding someone with a CAD program and a 3D printer?
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Old 02-14-2013, 01:58 PM   #2
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Amazon. Search "GTO key blade" Second and third option. Cost $11 and $9

I know other sites will also just sell the blade. I remember finding some a year ago

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Old 02-14-2013, 02:19 PM   #3
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You can do this:
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Old 02-14-2013, 04:27 PM   #4
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You can do this:
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That's great work and exactly what I want. I'll have to PM the OP to see if he's still making those for people. But the thread is from a while ago. Or I might attempt it myself since I already have a cut key blade. All I need is a handle.
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Old 02-14-2013, 05:13 PM   #5
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I've been curious about this too. I have a viper alarm and remote start chilling in the box ready for install once I get this key thing figured out.
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The easy way to install a aftermarket alarm with remote start is to have someone with HP Tuners turn off the VATS in the system and the factory alarm system will be off and just a key with no remote atached will start the car. Then it is just a normal install with the aftermarket system.
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Key blade holder needed/no fob

Keyblades you say...?

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The easy way to install a aftermarket alarm with remote start is to have someone with HP Tuners turn off the VATS in the system and the factory alarm system will be off and just a key with no remote atached will start the car. Then it is just a normal install with the aftermarket system.

I believe that's what they did. My key/fob no longer has a chip in it, and I can start my car with only the key just fine. I'm just looking for a smaller handle for my key.
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I believe that's what they did. My key/fob no longer has a chip in it, and I can start my car with only the key just fine. I'm just looking for a smaller handle for my key.

If they removed the chip from your remote, it is wired into the system. Bypassing the lock and key part of the security loop. You should find the chip somewhere under the dash where they installed the alarm system.
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Yeah more than likely they just soldered some wires between the fob 'guts' and the wires on the ignition cylinder so the car thinks the key/fob is always in the ignition. That method would properly fool the BCM/PIM.

Curious - does your factory security light even come on or flash?
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You could do it JDM style! Just find a plastic object of your liking, Heat up the key and jam it into the plastic!




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That's great work and exactly what I want. I'll have to PM the OP to see if he's still making those for people. But the thread is from a while ago. Or I might attempt it myself since I already have a cut key blade. All I need is a handle.

I have the OP's mold for the key now. I am going to make keys for myself when I get home. If you would like one let me know and I would be more than happy to make you one or two while I am doing mine.
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Yeah more than likely they just soldered some wires between the fob 'guts' and the wires on the ignition cylinder so the car thinks the key/fob is always in the ignition. That method would properly fool the BCM/PIM.

Curious - does your factory security light even come on or flash?

My mistake. The key fob still has the resistor inside the fob. The installer was unable to use the resistor (the value of which the immobilizer uses). And my understanding is they disabled VATS.

It is odd though, sometimes after remote starting the security light will flash until I put my key in the ignition. (Or come within range of the fob.) However today it did not come on or flash at all. I even took the key blade out of the fob and the light never came on.
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I have the OP's mold for the key now. I am going to make keys for myself when I get home. If you would like one let me know and I would be more than happy to make you one or two while I am doing mine.

Thanks for the offer. I think I might try to do one myself with the Alumilite mini kit and some black dye. Thais way I can use my key that's already cut. Let me know how yours turns out and if there are any tricks to the process.
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The GTO does not use a resistor as with other GM models. It's not unusual for an installer to assume that it does, but it's a totally different system.
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:52 AM   #17
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The GTO does not use a resistor as with other GM models. It's not unusual for an installer to assume that it does, but it's a totally different system.

You're right. I found some further information on the subject. No wonder the installer had such a difficult time. Directed's tech service points to our cars have a VATS system that can be bypassed with a resistor. It appears they are misinformed as most of us.
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