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Old 11-03-2013, 08:37 AM   #1
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Opti-coat on Polished/Billet Aluminum

I've been working on polishing up a few things on the car and contemplating different wheels and a friend is picking up some polished wheels for his daily as well.

I've contemplated Opti-coat for a while now and wanted to hear from those with experience in the matter. Would it help to hold the shine if all of the polished bits and wheels? I know it's supposedly great on paint but wondering about the bond to metal being as good.

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Old 11-03-2013, 08:51 AM   #2
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Few years back i used zoopseal on polished rims. Lasted about 6 months. Just spray them down and looked shiney again.
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I recommend a product called "Gibbs Brand". I would like to provide you a link but the policies of this site won't allow it. So Google it and you will get a few hits. Select the "roadsters" link to get some great info and real world examples of how it preserves and protects billet and castings. It's not a polish but what it does is eliminate oxidation.
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Hmm, that looks like something good to have around regardless. Thanks for the suggestions so far guys.

Also looking at 22ple sealant/coating.
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I've heard you can opticoat pretty much anything except windows/glass. I'm not sure how it would hold up to the heat from the exhaust though. I still have yet to use the Opticoat I have.
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I've opticoated my ccws. But haven't washed them since so can't say how it holds up. But they claim it works fine on billet and chrome.
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I have Opti-Coat on my CCWs also, but haven't really driven the car since. Hopefully it lasts.
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Did someone say billet?

Did someone say opticoat?

Am I dreaming?
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Did someone say billet?

Did someone say opticoat?

Am I dreaming?



I am also curious about the durability of Opticoat on metal parts and how it actually bonds/cures compared to painted finishes.
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I just happen to have a bunch of billet laying around...I suppose I could opticoat a piece then sit it outside in the sun and the rain and see what happens.
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Forgot to mention - I top Opticoat with Sonax Net Polymer Shield to prevent spotting that is common with coatings
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Did someone say billet?

Did someone say opticoat?

Am I dreaming?

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I have Opti-Coat on the inside barrels of both sets of my polished CCW's. My 05 and 06 are both garage queens, but I do wipe the wheels down after each drive.

I typically polish the faces once a month during the summer, but did try to "polish" part of the inside barrels a few months ago and could not get my towel to turn grey/black. That's telling me that the Opti-Coat is solidly bonded to the metal.

I used to get a lot more marring on the inside barrels from wiping them down due to brake dust, but have noticed that the Opti-Coat is preventing that from happening.

All-in-all, I think the stuff is fantastic. Not sure if I'll use it on the faces or not as I like the raw shine of bare polished aluminum.
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I have Opti-Coat on the inside barrels of both sets of my polished CCW's. My 05 and 06 are both garage queens, but I do wipe the wheels down after each drive.

I typically polish the faces once a month during the summer, but did try to "polish" part of the inside barrels a few months ago and could not get my towel to turn grey/black. That's telling me that the Opti-Coat is solidly bonded to the metal.

I used to get a lot more marring on the inside barrels from wiping them down due to brake dust, but have noticed that the Opti-Coat is preventing that from happening.

All-in-all, I think the stuff is fantastic. Not sure if I'll use it on the faces or not as I like the raw shine of bare polished aluminum.

Can you tell a difference between the opticoated surface and the raw surface as far as appearance goes?

Opticoat really is amazing...I got overspray on the GTO and the CIVIC and claybared over the opticoat this weekend. No signs of it removing any of the opticoat and they are still beading great.
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Not sure if I'll use it on the faces or not as I like the raw shine of bare polished aluminum.

This is my issue. How does it change the look of the metal?

I remember using Zoop Seal on some TTII's I polished out and didn't like how it changed the high polished look to an almost slightly hazed look.

Before the application, the wheels shined...not sure how to describe it. Sharply? Like a F YOUR EYES. I'M BRIGHT AF type of look verses a Meh, shiny but not burning your retinas.
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Can you tell a difference between the opticoated surface and the raw surface as far as appearance goes?

Yes. The inner barrels are a bit "duller" in shine than the faces which is typical for any coating (including clearcoat) on polished aluminum. That said, they still look damn good.

Here is a picture from when I just got done polishing them. The inner barrels have Opti-Coat and the faces are raw. It would be very hard to tell the difference if the entire wheel was done and you had nothing to compare the Opti-Coat vs non Opti-Coat finish.

One thing you do need to be careful about on polished aluminum, is making sure you keep an eye on the Opti-Coat as it flashes over. Unlike paint, which can hide small areas that don't flash over perfectly, polished aluminum will show every last imperfection in the finish. You just need to be overly anal about knocking down any areas that don't flash to clear or you'll end up with "cloudy" spots on the aluminum (ask me how I know).

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Yes. The inner barrels are a bit "duller" in shine than the faces which is typical for any coating (including clearcoat) on polished aluminum. That said, they still look damn good.

Here is a picture from when I just got done polishing them. The inner barrels have Opti-Coat and the faces are raw. It would be very hard to tell the difference if the entire wheel was done and you had nothing to compare the Opti-Coat vs non Opti-Coat finish.

One thing you do need to be careful about on polished aluminum, is making sure you keep an eye on the Opti-Coat as it flashes over. Unlike paint, which can hide small areas that don't flash over perfectly, polished aluminum will show every last imperfection in the finish. You just need to be overly anal about knocking down any areas that don't flash to clear or you'll end up with "cloudy" spots on the aluminum (ask me how I know).


Those look good.

When I was wetsanding my car I opticoated a small section to see how it changed the appearance. It was not at all what I expected to see.
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Opticoat topped with Sonax PNS
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It has been my experience that opticoat, or any wax/ sealant/ combo does very little for the appearance of the paint.

Anyone want to guess what this paint is topped with?





And before you ask...these pics are not upside down...!
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Opticoat topped with Sonax PNS

How longer after applying Opticoat do you apply Sonax Polymer Net shield? From what I have read online the consensus is that you should wait 3 months before applying anything on top of freshly applied Opticoat.

I know people say that the Opticoat cures within 24 hrs but it takes up to a month for it to fully harden, which is when I suppose that you could top it with Sonax Polymer Net Shield to reduce water spotting (which is initially caused due to lack of oils in the coating compared to a conventional liquid sealant).
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I think I applied SPNS roughly 10 weeks after OC. BTW that is what I have on the entire car, with the exception of Opti-Glass on the windshield.
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Opticoat topped with Sonax PNS

Wow, she looks gorgeous!
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zoopseal did not dull out/haze my rims at all
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Just FYI everyone Zoops Seal went out of business.
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Just FYI everyone Zoops Seal went out of business.

There's a product on the market called "Shine Seal" that appears to the same as the old Zoop Seal. Product application, bottling, and color looks identical.
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It has been my experience that opticoat, or any wax/ sealant/ combo does very little for the appearance of the paint.

Anyone want to guess what this paint is topped with?





And before you ask...these pics are not upside down...!

Oh oh oh...I know this one.

Nothing.

Same thing this is topped with.




I'm thinking of doing the car after a small touch up/maintenance detail and also take the time to do the wheels and billet items. Maybe I'll do one and not another for a side by side comparison so it's documented for future questions that won't need to be asked.
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