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06-17-2019 11:42 AM
DangerNoodle Wanted to say thank you for all the info. I plan to make the HP Tuner purchase later this week.
06-13-2019 04:33 AM
lejambcr A little over a year ago I think. It's nice to have the lambda gauge in the pillar pod too.
06-13-2019 04:13 AM
SkiPopeye36 Woah, when did that AEM system come out? I've the Ballenger Motorsports AFR500 and needed the Pro version to integrate it. I also have the older HP Tuners MVPI Pro.
06-12-2019 06:08 PM
lejambcr I had excellent success tuning with a single wideband with the AEM system without needing PRO. The AEM system installs with a pigtail on the OBDII port and then the MPVI2 plugs into that. VCM Scanner reads the lambda signal just fine. Bought the AEM system direct from HP Tuners. You do need PRO if you want to read 2 widebands at the same time. Here is a screen shot of a 3rd gear pull followed by a brief 4th gear pull. Lambda is tracking real close to my .885 target.
06-12-2019 05:47 PM
SkiPopeye36
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Originally Posted by lejambcr...View Post
I bought mine from HP Tuners directly, I don't think they distribute to anyone else? Bought the MPVI2, did not spend the extra $$$ for Pro. Bought 2 credits so that I could tune my GTO. There is tons of stuff on the internet on howto. I learned slowly over the course of about 3 months Started with the simple stuff and added complexity. Sometimes you just need someone to walk you thru the basics in 10-15mins. Since I was born and raised in NJ (might explain a few things) I would be happy to help you get started via some phone discussion.


Step 1: Download the latest version of HP Tuner Suite from their website. You will get the VCM Tuner Editor and VCM Logger/Scanner
Step 2: Find a Stock 2004 GTO (I assume that's your year) tune that someone has posted online. Better yet I'll attach one for you to play with.
Step 3: Read that tune into the VCM Tuner Editor and start playing with it. You can do a lot of learning without spending a nickel.
Step 4: Once you purchase the MPVI2 from HP Tuners you'll be able to read the current tune from your car and start comparing it to stock to see what changes where made to convert it to SD, your tuner might even be kind enough to email you the latest tune he built for you.
Step 5: Concentrate on searching the internet on what settings need to be in the ENGINE DIAGNOSTICS section of the tune to fix your O2 trouble code problem.


Few things:
1) You can get HP Tuners from numerous vendors. Doesn’t really make a difference where though as the prices are all set by HP Tuners.
2) You really should not be tuning a car from scratch without the Pro version as you need the Pro version to integrate a wide band. Tuning without a wide band is a horrible thing to do; especially any WOT tuning. Making small adjustments via logging the trims is OK, but that’s about it.
06-12-2019 03:49 PM
Nothubertjfarnsworth
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Originally Posted by DangerNoodle...View Post
Yeah I go to CSP for all my tuning needs. Looks like I need to buy HP-Tuners.

Any tips for beginners before I go out and buy it? Where should I buy it from, what should I buy, etc.
Any good documentation that won't put me in a deep coma for 8 months?

Best modding investment ever.
06-12-2019 12:42 PM
lejambcr I bought mine from HP Tuners directly, I don't think they distribute to anyone else? Bought the MPVI2, did not spend the extra $$$ for Pro. Bought 2 credits so that I could tune my GTO. There is tons of stuff on the internet on howto. I learned slowly over the course of about 3 months Started with the simple stuff and added complexity. Sometimes you just need someone to walk you thru the basics in 10-15mins. Since I was born and raised in NJ (might explain a few things) I would be happy to help you get started via some phone discussion.


Step 1: Download the latest version of HP Tuner Suite from their website. You will get the VCM Tuner Editor and VCM Logger/Scanner
Step 2: Find a Stock 2004 GTO (I assume that's your year) tune that someone has posted online. Better yet I'll attach one for you to play with.
Step 3: Read that tune into the VCM Tuner Editor and start playing with it. You can do a lot of learning without spending a nickel.
Step 4: Once you purchase the MPVI2 from HP Tuners you'll be able to read the current tune from your car and start comparing it to stock to see what changes where made to convert it to SD, your tuner might even be kind enough to email you the latest tune he built for you.
Step 5: Concentrate on searching the internet on what settings need to be in the ENGINE DIAGNOSTICS section of the tune to fix your O2 trouble code problem.
06-12-2019 10:01 AM
DangerNoodle
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Originally Posted by superchargedgp...View Post
If you have hp tuners its not an issue.

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Originally Posted by SkiPopeye36...View Post
Yeah, that would just be a temporary solution to pass the emissions test, but you'd want to change it back immediately afterwards.

Yup. Easy to go SD if you have HP Tuners and/or are exempt from emissions testing.

Have to pass the OBDII emissions tests each year and don't have easy access to HP Tuners? Don't even think about going SD.

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Originally Posted by superchargedgp...View Post
Driving around wont make them set. Like i told you over text. Its maf based

Yeah I go to CSP for all my tuning needs. Looks like I need to buy HP-Tuners.

Any tips for beginners before I go out and buy it? Where should I buy it from, what should I buy, etc.
Any good documentation that won't put me in a deep coma for 8 months?
06-12-2019 08:40 AM
SkiPopeye36
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Originally Posted by superchargedgp...View Post
Correct. Thats why i have to switch between two tunes. You do not want no error reported on your front 02 sensors.

Yeah, that would just be a temporary solution to pass the emissions test, but you'd want to change it back immediately afterwards.

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Originally Posted by superchargedgp...View Post
If you have hp tuners its not an issue.

Yup. Easy to go SD if you have HP Tuners and/or are exempt from emissions testing.

Have to pass the OBDII emissions tests each year and don't have easy access to HP Tuners? Don't even think about going SD.
06-12-2019 08:34 AM
superchargedgp
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Originally Posted by Nothubertjfarnsworth...View Post
guess i'm never going SD then. shoot.

If you have hp tuners its not an issue.
06-12-2019 08:33 AM
superchargedgp
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Originally Posted by SkiPopeye36...View Post
Crap, I missed the SD tune part. Those monitors will never set in an SD tune unless the ones that are not completing are set to "no error reported".

Don't believe there is any other way around it.

Correct. Thats why i have to switch between two tunes. You do not want no error reported on your front 02 sensors.
06-12-2019 08:32 AM
Nothubertjfarnsworth guess i'm never going SD then. shoot.
06-12-2019 08:30 AM
superchargedgp
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Originally Posted by Nothubertjfarnsworth...View Post
wait, so if you use an SD tune, those O2 tests won't run because you've forced the MAF to fail in the tune?

SMurf.

Exactly. When the maf code is set to force sd tune it prevents monitor readiness. One thing follows another. Maf is part of emissions system so it it sets a code it wont complete the cycle
06-12-2019 08:28 AM
SkiPopeye36 Crap, I missed the SD tune part. Those monitors will never set in an SD tune unless the ones that are not completing are set to "no error reported".

Don't believe there is any other way around it.
06-12-2019 07:41 AM
LS2-GTO I did this and passed NYS inspection:
I dont remember if I turned off COT. I should probably check.

I followed this (from):

To disable COT and the Rear O2s:

Engine, Fuel Control, COT, Lean Cruise, Cat Over Temp Protection:
COT - Set to Disabled
Engine Diag, General, Catalyst:

Catalyst Test - Set to Disabled
Post O2, Post O2 Test - Set to Disabled

Engine Diag, DTCs:
Set all the below DTCs to Error Mode "3 - No Error reported".

P0036
P0054
P0056
P0060

P0137
P0138
P0140
P0141
P0157
P0158
P0160
P0161

P0420
P0430

P2A01
P2A04

Still had to drive some miles for all tests to be performed.
06-12-2019 07:09 AM
Nothubertjfarnsworth wait, so if you use an SD tune, those O2 tests won't run because you've forced the MAF to fail in the tune?

SMurf.
06-12-2019 05:52 AM
superchargedgp Driving around wont make them set. Like i told you over text. Its maf based
06-12-2019 05:18 AM
DangerNoodle
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Originally Posted by SkiPopeye36...View Post
Your REAR 02’s were set to not report, which is a separate issue from the IM monitors. Those tests can sometimes take forever to complete, but if not, you can temporarily set the ones that will not complete to not report in HP Tuners and they will complete immediately upon key on. I wouldn’t leave them like that, but it can be done in a pinch if you’re tired of driving all over the place to get them to set.

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Originally Posted by superchargedgp...View Post
Exactly. This thread is not about rear sensors. Its the sd tune issue due to maf being disabled.

Gotcha so either I drive around alot and keep doing the drive cycle idle or use HPTuners to temporarily set them to not report so the auto pass, then change them back so they'll eventually report over x miles of driving.
NOTE *Speed Density Tuned* so these will never set via driving around.

I do appreciate the info.
06-11-2019 07:28 PM
superchargedgp
Quote:
Originally Posted by SkiPopeye36...View Post
Your REAR 02’s were set to not report, which is a separate issue from the IM monitors. Those tests can sometimes take forever to complete, but if not, you can temporarily set the ones that will not complete to not report in HP Tuners and they will complete immediately upon key on. I wouldn’t leave them like that, but it can be done in a pinch if you’re tired of driving all over the place to get them to set.

Exactly. This thread is not about rear sensors. Its the sd tune issue due to maf being disabled.
06-11-2019 05:22 PM
SkiPopeye36
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Originally Posted by Jailor...View Post
I had my tuner shut them off with LS1 edit software.

Passed with flying colors at inspection time.

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Originally Posted by JSRacing...View Post
My O2s were turned off as well and I passed. I'm due again in September, hopefully it passes again.

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Originally Posted by GGGGOAT...View Post
Same hear. HPTuners, turned them off and even passed w/o cats.

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Originally Posted by GT_OH_NO...View Post
Same my rears are turned off. CSP should be able to help you with that. If not PM me i might be able to help out.

Your REAR 02’s were set to not report, which is a separate issue from the IM monitors. Those tests can sometimes take forever to complete, but if not, you can temporarily set the ones that will not complete to not report in HP Tuners and they will complete immediately upon key on. I wouldn’t leave them like that, but it can be done in a pinch if you’re tired of driving all over the place to get them to set.
06-11-2019 07:46 AM
GT_OH_NO Same my rears are turned off. CSP should be able to help you with that. If not PM me i might be able to help out.
06-11-2019 04:49 AM
GGGGOAT
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jailor...View Post
I had my tuner shut them off with LS1 edit software.

Passed with flying colors at inspection time.

Quote:
Originally Posted by JSRacing...View Post
My O2s were turned off as well and I passed. I'm due again in September, hopefully it passes again.

Same hear. HPTuners, turned them off and even passed w/o cats.
06-10-2019 07:11 PM
JSRacing My O2s were turned off as well and I passed. I'm due again in September, hopefully it passes again.
06-10-2019 04:11 PM
Jailor I had my tuner shut them off with LS1 edit software.

Passed with flying colors at inspection time.
06-10-2019 09:27 AM
superchargedgp Pm me
06-10-2019 09:16 AM
DangerNoodle
NJ emissions bullshit

My GTO's last inspection was May of 2016. I decided I should get it inspected since I can finally drive it.

I have now failed inspection 3 times.

o2 sensors not ready
o2 sensors heater not ready


I searched and read previous people that had this issue, but nobody ever bothers to post up a follow up with a solution.

I did the "drive cycle". Now I'm driving around with a rejected sticker to put unnecessary miles on the car, so that it can pass the bullshit emission inspection.

GTO is a 2004, manual swapped, SD tuned, Kooks LTs, Kooks hi-flow cats.
Is there a trick to this I'm not aware of. Should I drive it every day for a week (fingers crossed it lasts that long) and do the proper "drive cycle" each day?

Also, I don't have A/C. My condenser lines were mangled during my first cam install. (The shop and I settle things years ago, but I haven't bothered getting a new condenser.)

smurfing ridiculous

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