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Old 04-13-2019, 02:34 PM   #1
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Rusty steering fluid tubes

I just got under the car for the 1st time to do an oil change and saw what looks like rusted metal portion of the power steering fluid hose. First pic is the rear of the pan and 2nd shot is at the front of the pan.
Will probably get the ACDelco unit.

anything I need to know? Any tricks to getting them out/in? before I change these?
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Old 04-14-2019, 03:30 PM   #2
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Rockauto has a gates for $60 and an ACDelco for $84. Just wondering if the ACDelco is worth it now that they make mostly everything in China.
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they're probably both the exact same part in different boxes.

get the cheaper one.
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Not sure you want to make the additional investment or go thru the extra effort but I just replaced my power steering hard lines with braided steel and Russell fittings. Looks much better and will make dropping the steering rack much less of a mess in the future if need be. Not to mention getting rid of that stupid high pressure line that goes from the pump...over to the passenger side....and then back to the rack on the driver side all because some engineer was too lazy to design a completely new line for left side driver. Would have been 4 feet shorter and gone straight aft from the pump to the rack instead of circling around the bottom of the engine and attaching in tough to get to places on the cradle.
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Old 04-14-2019, 08:18 PM   #5
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did you make your own hoses or bought hoses that were pre-made?
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Old 04-15-2019, 02:48 AM   #6
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I made them. Bought all the fittings and 10 feet of braided steel line from summit. Cut them to the proper length and assembled the high pressure fittings.
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Rockauto has a gates for $60 and an ACDelco for $84. Just wondering if the ACDelco is worth it now that they make mostly everything in China.

Typically I stick to OEM (unless I'm modding), but Gates is good quality and I have no qualms about using those parts.
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Is there a how to do it write up?

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I made them. Bought all the fittings and 10 feet of braided steel line from summit. Cut them to the proper length and assembled the high pressure fittings.

Is there a write up how to do it somewhere on the site? I would love to do this but not sure if I have the skills.
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Old 04-15-2019, 08:55 AM   #9
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Is there a write up how to do it somewhere on the site? I would love to do this but not sure if I have the skills.

I Googled how to make HP lines, it doesn't seem too hard nor does it appear that a bunch of tools a needed other than a vise and a cable cutter.
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I used my dremel with a cutoff wheel to cut the hoses to length. It gives a nice clean cut of the steel strands. The clean cut is important to making the assembly of the high pressure fittings easy. Just clean them good after the cut and use a little motor oil on the compression fitting threads. Really is no big deal. Practice on the low pressure hoses first then you'll be an expert when you tackle the high pressure line from the pump to the rack.
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Here is a picture of the new lines installed in my 2006. Zoom in for a good view. I'll admit getting the old lines out was easy with the motor out but the reinstall of the braided lines is not tough with the engine in place.
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Old 04-15-2019, 09:35 AM   #12
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How?

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I used my dremel with a cutoff wheel to cut the hoses to length. It gives a nice clean cut of the steel strands. The clean cut is important to making the assembly of the high pressure fittings easy. Just clean them good after the cut and use a little motor oil on the compression fitting threads. Really is no big deal. Practice on the low pressure hoses first then you'll be an expert when you tackle the high pressure line from the pump to the rack.

Would you happen to have a total parts list for the high pressure hose replacement with stainless? Did you route the hose the same way as the stock hose? Did you follow any special procedure to bleed the steering fluid system?
I assume once you disconnect the old lines they will drain out on the floor. Sorry for all the questions
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Old 04-15-2019, 09:38 AM   #13
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Which one is high pressure?

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Here is a picture of the new lines installed in my 2006. Zoom in for a good view. I'll admit getting the old lines out was easy with the motor out but the reinstall of the braided lines is not tough with the engine in place.

Is the line on top the high pressure?
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I can get the parts list posted tonight when I get home from work. You can also do some searching on this forum. That's where I got my list. Yes, the high pressure line is the top one on the rack. The low pressure line follows the oem routing over to near the right bottom of the radiator. The high pressure line is a direct shot from the pump back to the rack instead of the big path around the engine compartment like oem. I didn't lose much fluid at all. You make up the fittings for the rack ends first. Then just tie wrap them close to their installed location. Then temporarily route them to get your length measurement. Then when the hose ends are done route the hoses again and install the rack fittings first. No bleeding was necessary I only lost about 1/2 quart.
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Meant to say lost 1/2 pint. I pinched the old lines so they wouldn't leak while I installed the new lines on the rack. The high pressure on the pump won't lose any fluid. The low pressure line connection on the right front does lose a little fluid if your not quick with the reconnect. Did not have to bleed.

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Here's what I purchased from summit to do the braided steel power steering line conversion

2 each Russell 648060 16mmx1.5 o-ring fittings 1 for the top of the rack, the other for the top of the pump

1 each Russell 648080 18mmx1.5 o-ring fitting for the bottom rack fitting

2 each Russell 620411 45 degree hose end fittings both for the rack connection

The low pressure connection of the steel braided line on the front right side near the radiator can be secured with a hose clamp

1 each Russell 620421 90 degree hose end fitting for the pump connection

1 each 632620 10 foot AN-6 steel braided power steering flex line
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Old 04-16-2019, 04:50 PM   #17
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Awesome info!

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I can get the parts list posted tonight when I get home from work. You can also do some searching on this forum. That's where I got my list. Yes, the high pressure line is the top one on the rack. The low pressure line follows the oem routing over to near the right bottom of the radiator. The high pressure line is a direct shot from the pump back to the rack instead of the big path around the engine compartment like oem. I didn't lose much fluid at all. You make up the fittings for the rack ends first. Then just tie wrap them close to their installed location. Then temporarily route them to get your length measurement. Then when the hose ends are done route the hoses again and install the rack fittings first. No bleeding was necessary I only lost about 1/2 quart.

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Meant to say lost 1/2 pint. I pinched the old lines so they wouldn't leak while I installed the new lines on the rack. The high pressure on the pump won't lose any fluid. The low pressure line connection on the right front does lose a little fluid if your not quick with the reconnect. Did not have to bleed.

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Here's what I purchased from summit to do the braided steel power steering line conversion

2 each Russell 648060 16mmx1.5 o-ring fittings 1 for the top of the rack, the other for the top of the pump

1 each Russell 648080 18mmx1.5 o-ring fitting for the bottom rack fitting

2 each Russell 620411 45 degree hose end fittings both for the rack connection

The low pressure connection of the steel braided line on the front right side near the radiator can be secured with a hose clamp

1 each Russell 620421 90 degree hose end fitting for the pump connection

1 each 632620 10 foot AN-6 steel braided power steering flex line

This is great. Should be a sticky!! Thanks Lejambcr!!!
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I did the same as lejambcr a couple of years back using these instructions from Blackest SRT Ever

https://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=442131
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Drop the rack?

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I did the same as lejambcr a couple of years back using these instructions from Blackest SRT Ever

https://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=442131

After reading this I am wondering if it is necessary to drop the rack if I still have the stock exhaust??
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I did the same as lejambcr a couple of years back using these instructions from Blackest SRT Ever

https://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=442131

yeah, that's where i got the idea to do my low pressure lines after the stock ones got fubared.

my high pressure ones are still stock ATM.
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After reading this I am wondering if it is necessary to drop the rack if I still have the stock exhaust??

I did not notice how tight it was with the stock exhaust but with my Kooks long tubes it is not necessary to drop the rack to install the new braided steel lines.
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