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Old 05-16-2013, 03:24 PM   #1
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Exclamation Need some opinions/advice.

What up fellas?

As some of you might know, I'm having a little me... Minus the huge penis, and accompanying balls.

Now I have to purchase a "family car", and I'm leaning a little towards this Honda Element. I like it because it's different, and the interior is made for the outdoors-y type person. By that, I mean the interior is water/stain proof. Almost everything inside is rubber, and with the incoming shit/puke storm, it sounds very convenient. You can almost just hose it down.


http://www.carmax.com/enus/view-car/...8-0c8989edb777


What do you guys think? Any experience with them, or know anybody that has one?

Alternative vehicle suggestions are welcomed, but I prefer a crossover or wagon, and at a max of $20k.
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at your opening statement ....

Congrats on the Espinoza family growing !! I just had my first as well, and my wife bought a 2012 Ford Explorer. It's very roomy and has a lot of cool features and options. She paid around 30k though so it may be alittle out of your budget you had.

About the Honda Element you have shown, I don't know too much about those but I'm sure they are a good car for the money. I was never thrilled with the looks of them but the picture you just posted of one, it doesn't look as bad as I thought. The interior design you mentioned seems like a good idea for kids, but we haven't had any puke issues yet. Hope you find what you want, and I'm sure others will chime in with some good ideas.

P.S. you need to come around more often, but I'm afraid now that your having a kid we will never see you again...!!!
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Not a fan. For $20K you have better options.

The whole shit/puke storm wasn't a big deal either. Just keep it vacuumed and clean the the Cheerios won't build up in every crack and corner.

You can get a New CRV 2wd, Forrester or Ford Escape for $22K.
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Sitting in the back seat is uncomfortable in the element imo. Who ever rides in the back with the baby won't like it. Congrats btw
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The whole shit/puke storm wasn't a big deal either. Just keep it vacuumed and clean the the Cheerios won't build up in every crack and corner.

This is true. They don't really start to make a mess in the car for a couple of years.

Our Pilot has been great in terms of reliability and maintenance. I would assume the Element would be the same.

After my recent car shopping experience I came to the conclusion that Honda's are a little overpriced for what you get. At least that seemed to be the case in terms of the Accord. I would encourage you to shop around a little bit more.
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I couldnt picture you driving an element.

my bro works for honda he says they last forever tho, just change oil. lol
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Jose - Congratulations on the new addition to your family!!!...

The Element seems like Tupperware. Check out the Rav4, just ...

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Old 05-16-2013, 05:13 PM   #8
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If you are looking for new, I love my CX5... if you get the base, it's right around your budget.

Otherwise, the element I think is a good choice. It's an ugly beast, but it's as practical and reliable as they come.
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major congrats Jose on the born .....sorry i cant be much help in the car department tho
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Congrats on the baby! After my son was born I bought a Tahoe, I haven't seen the interior of the Element but you need space for strollers and big boxes of diapers. We would just fold the third row.
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No experience with Element other than shared intrigue. Also like that idea of hosing it down inside but I agree with Ken, crap everywhere may be a little further down the road. What I remember from early parenthood was our life was all about "gear". Tons and tons of gear that goes everywhere you go until they're mobile. So keep this in mind with your homework. Think easy access to car seats for kids in and out ( sorry to say it but MiniVan dude, is the most convenient) and think gear in and out, not just for you but V is one who's going to be hauling primarily. Rented a new plush Chrysler Town and Country in New Orleans last year; loved the captain chairs in the back!
If that's too Nuclear Family for you, maybe a cross over...a late model Cadillac or that Chevy Andrew got is real nice...Equinox!

But if you have the need for speed, Chevy SS in a few more months. The beauty here, it can go to the track or do car seats to day care, or most importantly, do Vegas for GoatRun with car seats. Just being practical, Daddy!

Congratulations my friend to you and Veronica during this special and exciting time!
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I have a 2013 Mazda cx5. It's my family car. It's great only down side to it is the weak ass engine lol... You should also check out

http://www.subaru.com/vehicles/xv-crosstrek/index.html

You might be able to get one for 20000 21000 with a discount if Subaru has any. Like others said for 20000 you could pretty much buy new which would be better IMO.
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Colin hit it right there Jose, the Mini Van is to me the best family vehicle cause of the ease of putting in a child seat and all the gear that goes with having kids in general. We have a 05 Caravan and it has been a good van. I have 180k on it with the original alternator on it still. Driving habits are key in having a vehicle that will last. If you drive it normal and do the oil changes, any of these will go a long ways in mileage. To me the Mini Van rules only cause of the room to get in and out and the amount of space you have to store a lot of stuff. Safety wise a lot of new cars have the child seat anchors built into the new cars now a days. I prefer the Dodge Caravan in my opinion since they I believe were the first to come out with one. Good Luck with your search!
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Colin hit it right there Jose, the Mini Van is to me the best family vehicle cause of the ease of putting in a child seat and all the gear that goes with having kids in general. We have a 05 Caravan and it has been a good van. I have 180k on it with the original alternator on it still. Driving habits are key in having a vehicle that will last. If you drive it normal and do the oil changes, any of these will go a long ways in mileage. To me the Mini Van rules only cause of the room to get in and out and the amount of space you have to store a lot of stuff. Safety wise a lot of new cars have the child seat anchors built into the new cars now a days. I prefer the Dodge Caravan in my opinion since they I believe were the first to come out with one. Good Luck with your search!

You're in a gto club and you drive a minivan? Can't go wrong with a minivan... Another thing I have a bad back so grabbing my kids when they were young hurt turning to my left or right and grabbing them. I'm no where near your size but I had an 04 Monte Carlo and coupes are so much easier on my back because I would hop in the back seat facing them grabbing them to my chest and step out with my back never turning. Monte Carlo is a huge car.
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Thanks fellas. This is exactly what I was hoping for. I was leaning towards the Subaru XV or Forester, at first, but figured I'd try and save some money and buy slightly used.

You guys are right, though. For a bit more money, I could get new, and a warranty.

Any opinions on Subaru? They seem to last forever, and are rarely on the used market. I'm also digging the CX-5's ~35mpg. Def going to check both out.
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Keep an eye on dealer sales... i.e., I helped my boss' son pick up a 2013 Mustang (V6 auto) for $18,000...had 4 miles on the clock... used 2012's (all previous rentals, basically) with 31k were going for more than that.
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Yeah, I'm in no rush. Still have a couple months. The price has to be right.
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this..

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Close, but (although high mileage):

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/3791427216.html
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Close, but (although high mileage):

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/3791427216.html

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I wouldn't do a mini van.

1st son I had a 90 Bronco, when we had the 2nd I bought a 99 Yukon for the 4 doors.

Works better for those off road camping trips.
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1st son I had a 90 Bronco, when we had the 2nd I bought a 99 Yukon for the 4 doors.

Works better for those off road camping trips.

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Thanks fellas. This is exactly what I was hoping for. I was leaning towards the Subaru XV or Forester, at first, but figured I'd try and save some money and buy slightly used.

You guys are right, though. For a bit more money, I could get new, and a warranty.

Any opinions on Subaru? They seem to last forever, and are rarely on the used market. I'm also digging the CX-5's ~35mpg. Def going to check both out.

The new forester's are nice and have great power, considering ur coming out of a gto ur probably gonna want to keep a little power in ur life or vehicle for that matter.
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Test drove an Impreza Wagon, sport edition, today. Love the car. Power, handling, feel of the road. Not enough room and too low for me. The Crosstrek solves the height issue, but the interior room is still too small. Have an appt to test drive a Forester on Monday. also going to check out the CX-5, X-Terra, and maybe even a 4-cyl Tacoma. Last resort, a CR-V.
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What CRAP!!

Whoever approved this design, should be taken out to the Farallon Islands, and thrown overboard. They probably caused Pontiac's collapse.
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Lol. I'll get a Prius, when you get paid for the hotel room in Vegas.
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