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Old 12-15-2017, 07:00 AM   #31
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Not bad man, really makes me wish I had my PRC heads shaved just wee bit
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Old 12-16-2017, 11:46 AM   #32
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Daam looks like it took forever to redline...Good numbers---danfigg
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Old 12-16-2017, 02:33 PM   #33
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At 740 hp, my manual 4th gear dyno pulls were around 2.6 seconds. Going for 850rwhp this spring with the blower change and some other goodies, can’t imagine they will last longer than 2 seconds. Tuning was probably a lot easier with 12 second pulls.

Think it’s safe to say this wasn’t worth the hassle.
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Old 12-16-2017, 02:59 PM   #34
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i'm sure the AFR is more accurate/stable with a longer pull.
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Old 12-16-2017, 03:02 PM   #35
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I hate salt.

Anyways, results!

Lower than expected but it didn't break or burst into flames.

So based off previous numbers:
Stock 241 heads & LS6 Intake = 383 rwhp / 347 rwtq (different dyno)
Stock 241 heads & TBSS Intake = 385 rwhp / 360 rwtq
.020 Milled 243 heads & TBSS Intake = 405 rwhp / 390 rwtq

All through an unlocked 3800 stall.
Track times soon to come.

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My GTO is so insignificant.

Video is of the 4th Pull.
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nice. what are your cam specs again?
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Old 12-17-2017, 01:56 PM   #36
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nice. what are your cam specs again?

223/231, .625/.622 111 LSA
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Old 12-17-2017, 03:34 PM   #37
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Wait, you cut a hole in the hood for 13 ft-lb of torque?
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Old 12-17-2017, 03:36 PM   #38
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Wait, you cut a hole in the hood for 13 ft-lb of torque?

Hey hey hey...there was a 2 rwhp gain too pal
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Old 12-17-2017, 04:51 PM   #39
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Wait, you cut a hole in the hood for 13 ft-lb of torque?

Uh oh...
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Old 12-17-2017, 06:08 PM   #40
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Aside from cutting a hole in the hood, I think those numbers are low. I thought there were cars making 400 hp with just bolt ons. I would have though he would have been in the mid 450 hp---danfigg
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Old 12-17-2017, 06:23 PM   #41
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Aside from cutting a hole in the hood, I think those numbers are low. I thought there were cars making 400 hp with just bolt ons. I would have though he would have been in the mid 450 hp---danfigg

LS3's can make 400whp with just bolt ons. LS2's can get there, if they try hard.

an LS1? eh... no. 340 best. especially with that crappy stock truck cam.

OP still has factory heads (although they are 231's) and a factory intake that is better than the LS6 he had on there, but not as good as a FAST. Not sure about his exhaust setup... but, I think his numbers are fairly typical with the mods.

a FAST and CnC heads? he'd be over 450 me thinks. add a few more "every last bit counts" mods and he'd have a little bit more.
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Old 12-17-2017, 06:26 PM   #42
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he's got 1 3/4 long tubes, but it's also through a stalled auto... so, yeah, those numbers are pretty healthy considering.
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Old 12-17-2017, 08:20 PM   #43
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Dangernoodle....did you see the posts on ls1 tech I posted about the back to back Dyno test between the tbss intake and the dorman ls2? If not, here’s a preview....








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Old 12-17-2017, 09:17 PM   #44
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that's gotta hurt.
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Old 12-18-2017, 01:24 AM   #45
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Danger did start this JUST before Dorman released it.
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Danger did start this JUST before Dorman released it.

Yea I think he did. At the time I came across his thread because I have a tbss intake sitting on the shelf that I wanted to install. I’m glad someone decided to be the guinea pig.
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Old 12-18-2017, 05:54 AM   #47
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You guys are brutal this morning!


Low dyno numbers, yeah I was disappointed because I swapped to 243 heads that are milled .020. Was expecting to be in the 415+ range.


Doorman has finally been compared to the TBSS, nice!

If the Doorman LS2 intake was a proven option, I would of never bothered with the TBSS intake.

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Old 12-18-2017, 05:56 AM   #48
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Wait, you cut a hole in the hood for 13 ft-lb of torque?

Yep.

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Old 12-18-2017, 08:30 AM   #49
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Nice job! Healthy and you know what did what.
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You guys are brutal this morning!


Low dyno numbers, yeah I was disappointed because I swapped to 243 heads that are milled .020. Was expecting to be in the 415+ range. If the converter was locked during the pulls it probably would of seen 30ish more rwhp over 405. But no need to risk hurting the torque converter just to get some bragging rights.

(3800 FTI single disk torque converter)


Things holding me back? $$$. LS1. Lack of LSA blower. Kooks catted mids. Stock 05 cat back exhaust.


Doorman has finally been compared to the TBSS, nice!
If the Doorman LS2 intake was a known option and tested/proven, I would of never bothered with the TBSS intake.

I think your power is just fine. Could have gone with some CnC heads, doe.
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Old 12-19-2017, 05:32 AM   #51
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I think your power is just fine. Could have gone with some CnC heads, doe.

CnC heads are fantastic, especially from AI. But $1200+ is a bit pricey for 20-30 rwhp.

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Old 12-19-2017, 06:23 AM   #52
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CnC heads are fantastic, especially from AI. But $1200+ for 10 to maybe 20 rwhp gain? eh.

Takes a lot of willpower to resist the “while you’re there” bug.
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CnC heads are fantastic, especially from AI. But $1200+ for 10 to maybe 20 rwhp gain? eh.

more like 35-50
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Old 12-19-2017, 11:59 AM   #54
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Yea I bought a set of 243’s and had a nice valve job and bowl work done. Flowed like 290cfm @ .630 on the intake and over 200 on the exhaust. I almost put them on like that but decided to do a little more and I got over 300cfm and 220+ on the exhaust with some portwork. So yea.....while I was at it kind of thing. Lol
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Old 12-20-2017, 07:11 PM   #55
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The DLS2 thread on ls1toke is getting interesting.

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Old 12-21-2017, 02:59 AM   #56
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You cant beat the ls6 intake it is a true performer even with a 78mm inlet its still way better then any stock ls2 with a 90mm inlet
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Old 12-21-2017, 03:05 AM   #57
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Man i have got to cough up some cash before may my 12 month short block warranty runs out i need injectors pushrods and a base tune
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Old 01-30-2018, 06:55 PM   #58
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The more I stare at my diy c6 intake, the more I dislike it. Knowing what I know now, there are so many things I can do now / differently that would be better.



Little did I know, this would be the last burnout it would ever do, as an A4.


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Old 05-25-2018, 11:32 AM   #59
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Decided to get the x-air intake because, I couldn't stand looking at my c6 diy intake anymore. Then while cruising down the turnpike (actually to go get the GTO inspected) I lost 3rd and 4th.... smurf AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSIONS!







A lot has happened this year, and I have a lot of projects I intend to knock out. (*cough* T56 swap *cough*)

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Old 08-10-2018, 12:52 PM   #60
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Update

Repainted the TBSS intake flat black. Didn't bother sanding, prepping, smurf it. Got too many other things to work on.





Manual swap was a real bitch.

https://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=839795

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